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** Also, while ''Oklahoma!'' tends to get credited as the first truly story-driven musical, with songs closely tied to the desires and actions of their characters rather than just examples of ThatRemindsMeOfASong, there are older examples out there; ''Theatre/ShowBoat'' is probably the most famous. Even the film musical ''Disney/SnowWhiteAndTheSevenDwarfs'' (1937) can be counted among these.

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** Also, while ''Oklahoma!'' tends to get credited as the first truly story-driven musical, with songs closely tied to the desires and actions of their characters rather than just examples of ThatRemindsMeOfASong, there are older examples out there; ''Theatre/ShowBoat'' is probably the most famous. Even the film musical ''Disney/SnowWhiteAndTheSevenDwarfs'' ''WesternAnimation/SnowWhiteAndTheSevenDwarfs'' (1937) can be counted among these.



* The 1994 stage adaptation of Disney's ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast'' wasn't the first "legit" ScreenToStageAdaptation from the Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon. ''Disney/SnowWhiteAndTheSevenDwarfs'' had ''several'' stage adaptations in varying cities/venues long before that, including a 1979 version that ran as a limited engagement in New York City at the huge Radio City Music Hall and had the same scope and scale as later Disney stage musicals -- a videotaped version was even one of Disney's early [=VHS=] releases.

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* The 1994 stage adaptation of Disney's ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast'' ''Theatre/BeautyAndTheBeast'' wasn't the first "legit" ScreenToStageAdaptation from the Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon. ''Disney/SnowWhiteAndTheSevenDwarfs'' ''WesternAnimation/SnowWhiteAndTheSevenDwarfs'' had ''several'' stage adaptations in varying cities/venues long before that, including a 1979 version that ran as a limited engagement in New York City at the huge Radio City Music Hall and had the same scope and scale as later Disney stage musicals -- a videotaped version was even one of Disney's early [=VHS=] releases.
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* ''Theatre/WesterosAnAmericanMusical'': A certain set of lyrics from the "I'll Be Back" song falls victim to this. The song was part of the version of the play that was put online in 2018, and already included the lyrics in which Daenerys threatens to [[spoiler:go mad and burn the Westeros countryside with dragon fire]]. In May 2019, a ''Series/GameOfThrones'' episode had exactly that happen. A couple weeks later, the 2019 version of the play went online. This resulted in people discovering the play via its 2019 version assuming "I'll Be Back" was a nod to what had happened in the series, when it was actually an accurate prediction inherited from its previous version.

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* ''Theatre/WesterosAnAmericanMusical'': A certain set of lyrics from the "I'll Be Back" song falls victim to this. The song was part of the version of the play that was put online in 2018, and already included the lyrics in which Daenerys threatens to [[spoiler:go mad and burn the Westeros countryside with dragon fire]]. In May 2019, a ''Series/GameOfThrones'' episode had exactly that happen. A couple weeks later, the 2019 version of the play went online. This resulted in people discovering the play via its 2019 version assuming "I'll Be Back" was is a nod to what had happened in the series, when it was is actually an accurate prediction inherited from its the play's previous version.
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* ''Theatre/WesterosAnAmericanMusical'': A certain set of lyrics from the "I'll Be Back" song fall victim to this. The song was part of the version of the play that was put online in 2018, and already included the lyrics in which Daenerys threatens to [[spoiler:go mad and burn the Westeros countryside with dragon fire]]. In May 2019, a ''Series/GameOfThrones'' episode had exactly that happen. A couple weeks later, the 2019 version of the play went online. This resulted in people discovering the play via its 2019 version assuming "I'll Be Back" was a nod to what had happened in the series, when it was actually an accurate prediction inherited from its previous version.

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* ''Theatre/WesterosAnAmericanMusical'': A certain set of lyrics from the "I'll Be Back" song fall falls victim to this. The song was part of the version of the play that was put online in 2018, and already included the lyrics in which Daenerys threatens to [[spoiler:go mad and burn the Westeros countryside with dragon fire]]. In May 2019, a ''Series/GameOfThrones'' episode had exactly that happen. A couple weeks later, the 2019 version of the play went online. This resulted in people discovering the play via its 2019 version assuming "I'll Be Back" was a nod to what had happened in the series, when it was actually an accurate prediction inherited from its previous version.
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* ''Theatre/WesterosAnAmericanMusical'': A certain set of lyrics from the "I'll Be Back" song fall victim to this. The song was part of the version of the play that was put online in 2018, and already included the lyrics in which Daenerys threatens to [[spoiler:go mad and burn the Westeros countryside with dragon fire]]. In May 2019, a ''Series/GameOfThrones'' episode had exactly that happen. A couple weeks later, the 2019 version of the play went online. This resulted in people discovering the play via its 2019 version assuming "I'll Be Back" was a nod to what happened in the series, when it was actually an accurate prediction inherited from its previous version.

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* ''Theatre/WesterosAnAmericanMusical'': A certain set of lyrics from the "I'll Be Back" song fall victim to this. The song was part of the version of the play that was put online in 2018, and already included the lyrics in which Daenerys threatens to [[spoiler:go mad and burn the Westeros countryside with dragon fire]]. In May 2019, a ''Series/GameOfThrones'' episode had exactly that happen. A couple weeks later, the 2019 version of the play went online. This resulted in people discovering the play via its 2019 version assuming "I'll Be Back" was a nod to what had happened in the series, when it was actually an accurate prediction inherited from its previous version.
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* ''Theatre/WesterosAnAmericanMusical'': A certain set of lyrics from the "I'll Be Back" song fall victim to this. The song was part of the version of the play that was put online in 2018, and already included the lyrics in which Daenerys threatens to [[spoiler:go mad and burn the Westeros countryside with dragon fire]]. In May 2019, a ''Series/GameOfThrones'' episode had exactly that happen. A couple weeks later, the 2019 version of the play went online. This resulted in people discovering the play via its 2019 version assuming "I'll Be Back" was a nod to what happened in the series, when it was actually an accurate prediction inherited from its previous version.
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* An unusual choice of source material for a musical, stuck in previews, ends up abandoned by its original writer due to horrible reception. Bono and The Edge wrote the songs. The show in question? ''Literature/AClockworkOrange: TheMusical'', 20 years before ''SpiderMan: Turn Off The Dark''.

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* An unusual choice of source material for a musical, stuck in previews, ends up abandoned by its original writer due to horrible reception. Bono and The Edge wrote the songs. The show in question? ''Literature/AClockworkOrange: TheMusical'', 20 years before ''SpiderMan: Turn Off The Dark''.''Theatre/SpiderManTurnOffTheDark''.
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** The story of ''Theatre/{{Rent}}'' is itself OlderThanTheyThink, being essentially the story of ''Theatre/LaBoheme'' by Puccini. Puccini's MadameButterfly was updated and set in the Vietnam War for the sake of ''Theatre/MissSaigon''.

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** The story of ''Theatre/{{Rent}}'' is itself OlderThanTheyThink, being essentially the story of ''Theatre/LaBoheme'' by Puccini. Puccini's MadameButterfly ''Theatre/MadameButterfly'' was updated and set in the Vietnam War for the sake of ''Theatre/MissSaigon''.
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* Many people believe "I Feel Pretty" from ''Theatre/WestSideStory'' is [[{{Bowdlerise}} frequently censored]] to avoid HaveAGayOldTime. It's the other way around. "I feel pretty and witty and gay" is the censored version while the original is "I feel pretty and witty and bright". The lyrics were changed because the song was moved to an earlier scene than in the stage version and possibly to avoid implications of sex: "bright" rhymed with "tonight" instead of "today".

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* Many people believe "I Feel Pretty" from ''Theatre/WestSideStory'' is [[{{Bowdlerise}} frequently censored]] to avoid HaveAGayOldTime. It's the other way around. "I feel pretty and witty and gay" is the censored version while the original is "I feel pretty and witty and bright".bright", with the next lines being "And I pity / Any girl who isn't me tonight". The lyrics were changed because the song was moved to an earlier scene than in the stage version and possibly to avoid implications of sex: "bright" rhymed with "tonight" instead of "today".
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* In ''Theatre/ThePhantomOfTheOpera'', the character Christine portrays in the [[ShowWithinAShow opera]] "Don Juan Triumphant" is named "Aminta." This name didn't originate in "Phantom" - different versions of the Don Juan legend have given different names to the peasant bride whom he seduces (most famously, Mozart's ''Theatre/DonGiovanni'' names her Zerlina), but in Tirso de Molina's play ''El Burlador de Sevilla'', the earliest version of the story, her name is, in fact, Aminta.
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** ''Theatre/{{Hamlet}}'' was based on a legendary Danish prince of the same name. Scholars also suspect that Shakespeare's play was an adaptation of a previous play based the legend. No copies of the "''Ur-Hamlet''," if it ever existed, have survived.

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** ''Theatre/{{Hamlet}}'' was based on a legendary Danish prince of the same name. Scholars also suspect that Shakespeare's play was an adaptation of a previous play based on the legend. No legend, although no copies of the this "''Ur-Hamlet''," if it ever existed, have survived.



** ''Theatre/TheComedyOfErrors'' is based off of ''Menaechmi'' by Plautus.

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** ''Theatre/TheComedyOfErrors'' is based off of on ''Menaechmi'' by Plautus.



* One thing that practically ''everyone'' knows about 17th century English theatre is that women were banned from stage acting, forcing men to play female roles. While this is certainly not wrong, comparatively few people seem to know that the ban on female actors was lifted during the reign of Charles II, which began in 1660--less than half a century after Creator/WilliamShakespeare's death. Out of the 400-odd years that Shakespeare's plays have been performed, women have been allowed to play the female roles in them for roughly 350 years.

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* One thing that practically ''everyone'' knows about 17th century 17th-century English theatre is that women were banned from stage acting, forcing men to play female roles. While this is certainly not wrong, comparatively few people seem to know that the ban on female actors was lifted during the reign of Charles II, which began in 1660--less than half a century after Creator/WilliamShakespeare's death. Out of the 400-odd years that Shakespeare's plays have been performed, women have been allowed to play the female roles in them for roughly 350 years.
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* Almost all of Creator/WilliamShakespeare's plays are based on pre-existing works, legends, and historical figures. Out of all his plays, only ''Theatre/TheTempest'' seems to be an original plot by Shakespeare.

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* Almost all of Creator/WilliamShakespeare's plays are based on pre-existing works, legends, and historical figures. Out of all his plays, only ''Theatre/TheTempest'' seems and ''Theatre/TheMerryWivesOfWindsor'' seem to be an original plot plots by Shakespeare.



* It's no secret that the songs in ''Theatre/MammaMia'' are just recycled Music/{{ABBA}} hits, but the plot isn't exactly original, either: the 1968 film ''Buona Sera, Mrs. Campbell'' used largely the same plot, as did ''Carmelina'', a 1979 Broadway musical flop by Alan Jay Lerner and Burton Lane.

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* It's no secret that the songs in ''Theatre/MammaMia'' are just recycled Music/{{ABBA}} hits, but the plot isn't exactly original, either: the 1968 film ''Buona Sera, Mrs. Campbell'' ''Film/BuonaSeraMrsCampbell'' used largely the same plot, as did ''Carmelina'', a 1979 Broadway musical flop by Alan Jay Lerner and Burton Lane.
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* Fans of ''{{Rent}}'' and ''{{Theatre/Dreamgirls}}'' cried TheyChangedItNowItSucks when some of the lyrics were converted to spoken dialogue in the movie versions. Not many people know it, but the spoken dialogue leading into the second act finale of ''Theatre/HMSPinafore'' was originally sung as a recitative.
** The story of ''{{Rent}}'' is itself OlderThanTheyThink, being essentially the story of LaBoheme by Puccini. Puccini's MadameButterfly was updated and set in the Vietnam War for the sake of ''Theatre/MissSaigon''.

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* Fans of ''{{Rent}}'' ''Theatre/{{Rent}}'' and ''{{Theatre/Dreamgirls}}'' cried TheyChangedItNowItSucks when some of the lyrics were converted to spoken dialogue in the movie versions. Not many people know it, but the spoken dialogue leading into the second act finale of ''Theatre/HMSPinafore'' was originally sung as a recitative.
** The story of ''{{Rent}}'' ''Theatre/{{Rent}}'' is itself OlderThanTheyThink, being essentially the story of LaBoheme ''Theatre/LaBoheme'' by Puccini. Puccini's MadameButterfly was updated and set in the Vietnam War for the sake of ''Theatre/MissSaigon''.

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** Also, while ''Oklahoma!'' tends to get credited as the first truly story-driven musical, with songs closely tied to the desires and actions of their characters rather than just examples of ThatRemindsMeOfASong, there are older examples out there; ''Theatre/ShowBoat'' is probably the most famous. Even the film musical ''Disney/SnowWhiteAndTheSevenDwarfs'' (1937) can be counted among these.



** The story of {{Rent}} is itself OlderThanTheyThink, being essentially the story of LaBoheme by Puccini. Puccini's MadameButterfly was updated and set in the Vietnam war for the sake of MissSaigon.

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** The story of {{Rent}} ''{{Rent}}'' is itself OlderThanTheyThink, being essentially the story of LaBoheme by Puccini. Puccini's MadameButterfly was updated and set in the Vietnam war War for the sake of MissSaigon.''Theatre/MissSaigon''.



* The 1994 stage adaptation of Disney's ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast'' wasn't the first "legit" ScreenToStageAdaptation from the Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon. ''Disney/SnowWhiteAndTheSevenDwarfs'' had ''several'' stage adaptations in varying cities/venues long before that, including a 1979 version that ran as a limited engagement in New York City at the huge Radio City Music Hall and had the same scope and scale as later Disney stage musicals (a videotaped version was one of Disney's early [=VHS=] releases).

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** {{Jukebox Musical}}s using the back catalogs of songwriters/musicians or a passel of songs from a certain era also date back decades on both the stage and the big screen. ''Film/SinginInTheRain'' is one example! ''Mamma Mia!'' was the first international megahit based around a ''pop'' song catalog, but London's West End had already seen several such shows prior to its 1999 opening, such as ''Buddy'' (the Buddy Holly back catalog) and ''Return to the Forbidden Planet'' (early rock hits).
* The 1994 stage adaptation of Disney's ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast'' wasn't the first "legit" ScreenToStageAdaptation from the Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon. ''Disney/SnowWhiteAndTheSevenDwarfs'' had ''several'' stage adaptations in varying cities/venues long before that, including a 1979 version that ran as a limited engagement in New York City at the huge Radio City Music Hall and had the same scope and scale as later Disney stage musicals (a -- a videotaped version was even one of Disney's early [=VHS=] releases).releases.
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* Many people believe "I Feel Pretty" from ''Theatre/WestSideStory'' is [[{{Bowdlerise}} frequently censored]] to avoid HaveAGayOldTime. It's the other way around. "I feel pretty and witty and gay" is the censored version while the original is "I feel pretty and witty and bright". The lyrics were changed to avoid implications of sex ("bright" rhymed with "tonight" instead of "today").

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* Many people believe "I Feel Pretty" from ''Theatre/WestSideStory'' is [[{{Bowdlerise}} frequently censored]] to avoid HaveAGayOldTime. It's the other way around. "I feel pretty and witty and gay" is the censored version while the original is "I feel pretty and witty and bright". The lyrics were changed because the song was moved to an earlier scene than in the stage version and possibly to avoid implications of sex ("bright" sex: "bright" rhymed with "tonight" instead of "today")."today".

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* A Broadway musical about cats, based on a series of poems, and with considerably more dancing than plot? ''Shinbone Alley'', which opened 25 years before ''Cats''. However, ''Shinbone Alley'' failed to put its cats in any kind of cat costumes, which may help account for its far shorter run.

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* A Broadway musical about cats, based on a series of poems, and with considerably more dancing than plot? ''Shinbone Alley'', which opened 25 years before ''Cats''.''Theatre/{{Cats}}''. However, ''Shinbone Alley'' failed to put its cats in any kind of cat costumes, which may help account for its far shorter run.


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* Many people believe "I Feel Pretty" from ''Theatre/WestSideStory'' is [[{{Bowdlerise}} frequently censored]] to avoid HaveAGayOldTime. It's the other way around. "I feel pretty and witty and gay" is the censored version while the original is "I feel pretty and witty and bright". The lyrics were changed to avoid implications of sex ("bright" rhymed with "tonight" instead of "today").
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* It's no secret that the songs in ''Theatre/MammaMia'' are just recycled {{ABBA}} hits, but the plot isn't exactly original, either: the 1968 film ''Buona Sera, Mrs. Campbell'' used largely the same plot, as did ''Carmelina'', a 1979 Broadway musical flop by Alan Jay Lerner and Burton Lane.

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* It's no secret that the songs in ''Theatre/MammaMia'' are just recycled {{ABBA}} Music/{{ABBA}} hits, but the plot isn't exactly original, either: the 1968 film ''Buona Sera, Mrs. Campbell'' used largely the same plot, as did ''Carmelina'', a 1979 Broadway musical flop by Alan Jay Lerner and Burton Lane.
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* While Creator/{{Shakespeare}}'s ''plots'' might not be as original as people think, his use of language certainly was, and that leads to this trope in and of itself, or its opposite, YoungerThanTheyThink. As quoted in ''The Story of English'':

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* While Creator/{{Shakespeare}}'s ''plots'' might not be as original as people think, his use of language certainly was, and that leads to this trope in and of itself, or its opposite, YoungerThanTheyThink.NewerThanTheyThink. As quoted in ''The Story of English'':

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