History NightmareFuel / TheWheelOfTime

* How Seanchan treat ''damane.'' Women who can instinctively channel have collars locked on their necks, which can inflict many kinds of suffering upon the wearer; at one point while she's collared and still defiant, Egwene was made to feel as if her body were being plunged into boiling hot water, even though she's physically unharmed. ''Damane'' are treated like animals by the Seanchan, being denied any rights or agency and often not even allowed to keep their old names; Seanchan ''damane'' are raised from birth believing that channellers are not human and they must be enslaved for their own safety, while women taken as ''damane'' after the Seanchan invasion are physically and mentally tortured until their minds and wills break and they accept their fate. And worse, the ''damane'' [[StockholmSyndrome often end up liking it]]. To take just one example: Sheraine Caminelle was captured and collared by the Seanchan when they arrived at Falme and refused to cooperate, trying to kill herself by refusing to eat or drink. Tuon muses:

** ''Damane'' are explicitly stated to be noticeably stronger than Aes Sedai, and it's implied that the channellers of the Nations are effectively breeding themselves into both rarity and weakness due to the Aes Sedai snapping up every girl they can find, 'gentling' male channelers which usually leads to the distraught men committing suicide, and very rarely having children. Sul'dam and der'sul'dam don't seem to be generally family oriented, unlike the Aiel Wise Ones and the Sea Folk Wavemistresses. Are the ''damane'' being [[BreedingSlave bred]]? Similar things have happened in real life. And, considering that they're regarded as animals by the Seanchan population, who are the men who are ordered/forced into what they would regard as bestiality?

** ''Damane'' are explicitly stated to be noticeably stronger than Aes Sedai, and it's implied that the channellers of the Nations are effectively breeding themselves into both rarity and weakness due to the Aes Sedai snapping up every girl they can find, 'gentling' male channelers which usually leads to the distraught men committing suicide, and very rarely having children. Sul'dam and der'sul'dam don't seem to be generally family oriented, unlike the Aiel Wise Ones and the Sea Folk Wavemistresses. Are the ''damane'' being [[BreedingSlave bred]]? Similar things have happened in real life.

** ''Damane'' are explicitly stated to be noticeably stronger than Aes Sedai, and it's implied that the channellers of the Nations are effectively breeding themselves into both rarity and weakness due to the Aes Sedai snapping up every girl they can find, and very rarely having children. Sul'dam and der'sul'dam don't seem to be generally family oriented, unlike the Aiel Wise Ones and the Sea Folk Wavemistresses. Are the ''damane'' being [[BreedingSlave bred]]? Similar things have happened in real life.

* How Seanchan treat ''damane.'' Women who can instinctively channel have collars locked on their necks, which can inflict many kinds of suffering upon the wearer; at one point while she's collared and still defiant, Egwene was made to feel as if her body were being plunged into boiling hot water, even though she's physically unharmed. ''Damane'' are treated like animals by the Seanchan, being denied any rights or agency and often not even allowed to keep their old names; Seanchan ''damane'' are raised from birth believing that channellers are not human and they must be enslaved for their own safety, while women taken as ''damane'' after the Seanchan invasion are tortured until their minds and wills break and they accept their fate. And worse, the ''damane'' [[StockholmSyndrome often end up liking it]]. To take just one example: Sheraine Caminelle was captured and collared by the Seanchan when they arrived at Falme and refused to cooperate, trying to kill herself by refusing to eat or drink. Tuon muses:

** Renna, the ''Sul'dam'' who collars Egwene in ''The Great Hunt''. She presents herself as a friendly mentor figure, [[FauxAffablyEvil which is a rather thin facade]]. She tortures Egwene multiple times within the first chapter she's introduced, and the narration notes that her "kindness" is the kind one shows to animals. She's even worse in the audiobook, where she generally talks in a breezy, condescending tone, but the few occasions where she drops the act have her sounding borderline psychotic. Her treatment of Egwene is so horrendous that, as soon as she's free, the utterly traumatized girl wants to return her suffering with interest and Nynaeve has to physically stop her from torturing Renna to death via the 'a'dam''.

** Rena, the ''Sul'dam'' who collars Egwene in ''The Great Hunt''. She presents herself as a friendly mentor figure, [[FauxAffablyEvil which is a rather thin facade]]. She tortures Egwene multiple times within the first chapter she's introduced, and the narration notes that her "kindness" is the kind one shows to animals. She's even worse in the audiobook, where she generally talks in a breezy, condescending tone, but the few occasions where she drops the act have her sounding borderline psychotic. Her treatment of Egwene is horrendous enough that, as soon as she's free, the utterly traumatized girl wants to return her suffering with interest and Nynaeve has to physically stop her from torturing Rena to death.
** ''Damane'' are explicitly stated to be noticeably stronger than Aes Sedai, and it's implied that the channellers of the Nations are effectively breeding themselves into both rarity and weakness due to the Aes Sedai snapping up every girl they can find, and very rarely having children. Sul'dam and der'sul'dam don't seem to be generally family oriented, unlike the Aeil Wise Ones and the Sea Folk Wavemistresses. Are the ''damane'' being [[BreedingSlave bred]]? Similar things have happened in real life.

** Rena, the ''Sul'dam'' who collars Egwene in ''The Great Hunt''. She presents herself as a friendly mentor figure, [[FauxAffablyEvil which is a rather thin facade]]. She tortures Egwene multiple times within the first chapter she's introduced, and the narration notes that her "kindness" is the kind one shows to animals. She's even worse in the audiobook, where she generally talks in a breezy, condescending tone, but the few occasions where she drops the act have her sounding borderline psychotic. Her treatment of Egwene is horrendous enough that, as soon as Egwene is free, she tries to return the favour and torture Rena to death, horrifying Nynaeve, Min and Elayne.

** Rena, the ''Sul'dam'' who collars Egwene in ''The Great Hunt''. She presents herself as a friendly mentor figure, [[FauxAffablyEvil which is a rather thin facade]]. She tortures Egwene multiple times within the first chapter she's introduced, and the narration notes that her "kindness" is the kind one shows to animals. She's even worse in the audiobook, where she generally talks in a breezy, condescending tone, but the few occasions where she drops the act have her sounding borderline psychotic.

* How Seanchan treat ''damane.'' Women who can instinctively channel have collars locked on their necks, which can inflict many kinds of suffering on the ''damane;'' at one point while she's collared and still defiant, Egwene was made to feel as if her body were being plunged into boiling hot water, even though she's physically unharmed. ''Damane'' are treated like animals by the Seanchan, being denied any rights or agency and often not even allowed to keep their old names. And worse, the ''damane'' [[StockholmSyndrome often end up liking it]]. To take just one example: Sheraine Caminelle was captured and collared by the Seanchan when they arrived at Falme and refused to cooperate, trying to kill herself by refusing to eat or drink. Tuon muses:

* Poor ol' Perrin? While it was one of the most necessary deaths there was, crushing Lanfear's neck with his bare hand while being ''compelled'' to love her is decidedly horrible... He's explicitly stated to be weeping over her body.