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* Creator/WilliamBlake's "[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton_(Blake) Newton]]", due to its "heroic" style, is widely misinterpreted as an approving depiction of UsefulNotes/IsaacNewton (eg in the three-dimensional sculpture by Eduardo Paolozzi inspired by it). In fact, the anti-materialist and mystically Christian Blake intended the work as a caricature mocking Newton for paying attention to insignificant things on Earth when he should have been thinking about his immortal soul.[[note]]While Newton was also involved in theological and spiritual pursuits, his style of spirituality was one that Blake considered far too intellectualised and arrogantly confident in the power of human reason.[[/note]] This is made clear by the engraving's original subtitle, ''Personification of Man Limited by Reason''.

[[AC:Articles]]
* [[SelfDemonstrating/CharacterPages Self-Demonstrating Character Pages]], a type of JustForFun page on this very wiki where characters describe themselves in first person using their signature speech patterns, were born from misunderstanding the point of our SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}} article. Deadpool's page was written as if Deadpool himself was narrating, because one of the character's defining characteristics is how he has NoFourthWall, so the idea was that if he addresses the readers in the comic books, it's only natural that he would do the same on his TV Tropes page. Then people proceeded to miss the joke when [[FollowTheLeader the style caught on]], and as a result there are many pages dedicated to individual Marvel and DC characters that are written with NoFourthWall, even if the character in question doesn't behave as such. Then it proceeded to extend into different works entirely, some missing the joke by an even ''wider'' margin, as characters with actual Fourth Wall attunement are missed out in favor of others. And even if you think that just describing a character using that character's "voice" can still be interesting, ''that'' joke was itself missed by an even ''wider'' margin when tropers started creating pages for any characters they like, even if they didn't have interesting speech patterns. Fortunately, most (hopefully all) of the "uninteresting" pages were deleted.

[[AC:Asian Animation]]
* Rumor has it that ''Animation/SquirrelAndHedgehog'' is meant to bash and demonize the United States in favor of North Korea, but you'd never guess that. The Americans, portrayed by badass wolves armed with {{Ray Gun}}s and GlowingEyesOfDoom, are five different kinds of awesome compared to the North Koreans who are portrayed by wimpy little rodents. The BigBad Lt.Col Fox Vixen is also [[PopularWithFurries popular enough, particularly with]] the UsefulNotes/FurryFandom, to have spawned an entire slew of fan art from Americans praising her. The explanation given is due to ValuesDissonance; Americans love seeing themselves portrayed as fearsome, stoic and mighty wolves, whilst North Koreans center a lot of their cultural identity around being innocent, meek and peace-loving souls tormented by big, powerful bullies, as a result of government propaganda. Not only that, the "innocent, meek and peace-loving souls tormented by big, powerful bullies" setup mainly works if the victims have the moral high ground, something that the Flower Hill (North Korea) residents clearly lack.

[[AC:Fanfiction]]
* ''Fanfic/TheConversionBureau'' was written to explain fic writer Blaze's hypothesis on why Equestria had no humans, as well as being WishFulfillment. Due to his lack of experience as a writer, the story came off as incredibly misanthropic. The mixture of the backlash Blaze received as well as his waning interest in the story rendered it a DeadFic. However, other authors came into the scene to write their own {{Recursive Fanfiction}}s based off ''TCB'', taking the basic framework of the story to espouse their HumansAreTheRealMonsters views. This is despite the fact that the only reason that ''TCB'' had such a message was due to lack of skill by the original writer in presenting an idea, not intentional misanthropy.

[[AC: Software]]
* [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flask_(web_framework) Flask]] was originally created as a parody of similar web frameworks, implementing every bad design decision from other frameworks that the author could think of. [[http://lucumr.pocoo.org/2010/4/3/april-1st-post-mortem/ He was quite surprised to learn that some people actually liked it, and asked him for the source code so that they could expand it.]]

[[AC:Theme Parks]]
* Ride/ActionPark was notorious for its [[NoOSHACompliance lax safety standards]], which eventually led to it shutting down in 1996 under a tide of lawsuits. People were attracted to the park ''because'' of its unsafe rides, seeing it less as an AmusementParkOfDoom and more an Amusement Park of Badassery, such that it became a CultClassic among [[{{Joisey}} New Jerseyans]] who [[TooCoolToLive bemoaned its eventual fate]]. Nostalgia for the park led to its replacement on the property, Mountain Creek Waterpark, being briefly renamed Action Park from 2014 through 2016, and a VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory film called ''Action Point'' being made by a number of ''Series/{{Jackass}}'' alumni in 2018.

[[AC:Visual Novels]]
* With ''Franchise/AceAttorney'':
** In ''VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney'', some people complain about the moment where [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption you're forced to make Phoenix present the diary page in the flashback trial]], [[DramaticIrony despite the player knowing full well it's forged evidence that will get him disbarred]]. These complaints miss the point that "unfair" and "gut wrenching" is exactly how this scene is meant to feel. The past is the past, and Phoenix's entire stance over what happened during that trial is "what's done is done"; he can complain about it all he wants, but it changes nothing. You can't change what happened to Phoenix through the comfort of the fourth wall.
** In ''[[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies Dual Destinies]]'', there's some people who are incredibly pissed off about the reveal where it turns out The Phantom is [[spoiler:impersonating Bobby Fulbright, and the real Fulbright's been dead since before the game]]. These people are failing to realize that that's exactly what it's supposed to feel like. The Phantom played you for a fool, and made you trust him completely, only for it turn out he's not even the person he says he is. That anger you feel deep down at that plot twist? It was intentional.
* ''VisualNovel/AmnesiaMemories'' gets hit with this, likely due to a case of NoExportForYou, since the other games of the series have, so far, not been localized to the western market. This particularly hits hard because ''Amnesia: Later'' has after stories depicting the relationships after the Good Endings, often showing repercussions and consequences of actions taken during ''Amnesia: Memories''.
** Some western players found the boyfriends to be horrible characters, despite the entire point of their routes and Good Ending dealing with the fact that they are not as they initially appear to be. Shin may look like a [[AllGirlsWantBadBoys bad boy]], but his appearance belies that he's really got [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold good intentions behind his harsh words]]. Ikki gets labeled as nothing but a playboy, when his route shows that he's sick and tired of being labeled a playboy by everyone else, and really wants to find a meaningful relationship with one person and even settle down. [[NoSocialSkills Kent]] and [[BeneathTheMask Toma]] are their own little misaimed fandom.
** Kent's lack of social skills and extremely rational outlook on life rubs people the wrong way, citing that his relationship with the heroine is terrible and that they should break up. Some players didn't realize that Kent's entire route was one big [[DeconstructedTrope deconstruction]] of the BelligerentSexualTension trope seen in a lot of romances in media. The game has characters admit that their relationship was likely doomed to failure because their differences, and refusal to attempt to see eye-to-eye, made both of them unhappy. Kent trying to open up and be more open about his emotions towards the heroine, as well as her own stubborn stance about not being honest herself, was necessary for them to even begin having open conversations with each other.
** Toma gets knocked a lot for turning out to be a {{yandere}} that locks the heroine away, with many players even claiming that's his whole personality. Even thinking of him as someone who enjoys and would go through with his attempt at raping the heroine. Toma is not supposed to be seen as sympathetic in his endeavors, but also not be quickly shrugged off. He's not happy with how he acted towards the heroine and is deeply ashamed of it.
* ''Franchise/{{Danganronpa}}'':
** Fans often tend to believe that the Ultimates are gifted people, the best in their area and that for having talent, they are above the normal students. This goes counter to one of the main themes of the game, particularly ''VisualNovel/Danganronpa2GoodbyeDespair'', that one's worth is not necessarily defined by talent or lack thereof. Some Free Time events show the various Ultimates connecting with Makoto Naegi ([[BornLucky the Ultimate Lucky Student]]) or Hajime Hinata ([[spoiler:who has no Ultimate talent at all]]) more easily than most of their Ultimate classmates, simply because those two are more normal, and it's noted that the Ultimates [[WhenAllYouHaveIsAHammer tend to fall back on their talents in desperate situations]] (most of the murders involve the culprits using their talent). Near the end of the second game, Hajime, [[spoiler:after learning that his [[IJustWantToBeSpecial desire for a talent]] led to him becoming Izuru Kamukura and essentially causing the events that led to the collapse of civilization]], realizes that self-confidence is most important of all, enabling him to save the day and [[spoiler:live on as himself]], an outcome he is happy with.
*** The main character seeing the world in this light is Nagito Komaeda, who gets continuously crazier and crazier through the game and [[spoiler: plays a later part of the game as an antagonist, even trying to kill everybody in chapter 5]]. Outside of him, you have the very Hope's Peak Academy, which was responsible for [[spoiler:laying out the ground for Junko to cause The Tragedy. They treated the Reserve Students as useless cash cows, spent insane amount of money on the Main Course, of which the students were not even asked to participate the class, as long as they still had their talents, they covered up murders, genocides and bombings caused by students, who often got minimum punishment for it and created Izuru Kamukura, by injecting talents on a normal student until he became devoid of empathy for humans and was easily used by Junko as a killing machine.]]
** From the first game, Chihiro Fujisaki's earned fans by [[spoiler: being seen as a deliberate WholesomeCrossdresser rather than a disguise created to avoid bullying, and that his feminine features should be embraced because of it. It gets to the point where they consider him a "girlfriend" character of sorts or interpret him as trans, ignoring that he'd like to improve himself on his own merits instead of continually living a lie. The UnfortunateImplications of him needing to keep this facade because his natural girlniness makes him not a "real" man ignores his character arc.]]
** There are those who actually agree with the Hope's Peak Saga's BigBad, [[spoiler:Junko Enoshima]], with their "Burn it all down" attitude being cited as the primary reason considering all the corruption Hope's Peak has pulled. [[spoiler: Junko's EvilIsSexy looks and natural charisma are also contributing factors, even though the reason she ended up torching the system was because she was ''bored''. She's good at analyzing what pieces of the DisasterDominoes should lead to what, sure, but even she tells her classmates in her last living moments that there's nothing about her that remotely deserves any praise or sympathy.]]
** In what could be a case of Misaimed {{Hatedom}}, some believe ''VisualNovel/DanganronpaV3KillingHarmony'' is an insult to the fandom, due to numerous TakeThatAudience remarks to the in-universe viewers and the end goal of [[spoiler:ending ''Danganronpa'' in-universe]] is a sign they [[TorchTheFranchiseAndRun just want the franchise to end]]. The development has said this wasn't the case and the nature of the player and the in-universe audience was supposed to simply be on a similar level.
* ''VisualNovel/DokiDokiLiteratureClub'': There are people who agree with Monika that nothing she did was wrong [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman because she did it to fictional characters]], not real people. These same people will downplay Monika's more negative traits of her being a {{Yandere}} who manipulated, gaslit, and murdered her friends, then destroyed her game's world just to get close to [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou the player]]. Part of this has to do with her illustrating surprising HiddenDepths during Act 3, showing her polite demeanor wasn't entirely an act. What these fans miss is that the game clearly portrays Monika as a monster, [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds even if there is a tragic reason behind her actions]]. Monika herself even [[HeelRealization realizes this]] once the player deletes her from the game. It's also called further into question by the ending's reveal that being meta-aware isn't a Monika-specific thing, but more something that comes with being the Club's President. Depending on which of the MultipleEndings a player gets, Sayori will start to act just as bad as Monika before she's stopped in the bad ending, or thank the player for trying to make everyone happy despite knowing they were all video game characters in the good ending. Monika is and was always meant to be in the wrong, and her stance that "it's just a video game" doesn't excuse how she acted.
* ''VisualNovel/KatawaShoujo'':
** The game itself is an inversion; on hearing that a game about dating crippled girls (blind, amputees, etc) is being written by (mostly) refugees of Website/FourChan, many reviewers are prepared to find a depressingly cruel, mocking game on par with ''Rapelay,'' instead of a fairly realistic and touching game about living with (and dating) handicaps.
** On the other hand, Word of God (word of the devblog, actually) has denied the opposite interpretation that the story is meant to be a sympathetic analysis of life with a handicap. The setting comes second to the genre (romance). The fact that they claim the handicaps are not actually the focus of the game makes it even better.
** The moral in Hanako's route is that Hanako doesn't like her crippling shyness and insecurities and wants people to see her as an equal instead of as a broken child to protect and baby. There are quite a few KS fans who love Hanako for her "adorable shyness" and get upset at Hisao for his and Hanako's first time going so wrong, despite the fact that Hanako was the one who initiated it. The fact that [[spoiler: Hisao has a brief HeroicBSOD upon mistakenly believing that he ''forced Hanako into sex'' and Hanako has to clear up that he didn't rape her]] should say, uh, something.
** Similarly, the fact that Shizune is really NotGoodWithPeople and straightforward to the point of bluntness makes people believe that [[spoiler: she raped Hisao in TheirFirstTime.]]
* [[Franchise/{{Nasuverse}} Type Moon]] works are heavily subjected to this.
** [[CreatorThumbprint A theme that head writer Nasu uses quite often]] is the idea that we all have darkness within ourselves. You still get a little agitated when you think of something thoughtless that your friend did years ago. You feel that the girl you like should have gone with you instead of this other guy. You have an old grudge towards one of your relatives. Your acquaintances all have little flaws that annoy you. And so on and so forth. But you keep all of this under wraps, because you realize that you're being irrational or petty and/or that it's insignificant next to how much you care about this person. But what happens when [[NotHimself you're possessed by a supernatural power and forced to act on all of these dark urges]]? Suffice to say, none of us would be good people. Nasu has used this with no less than four characters, and two of them have {{Hatedom}}s that center their bashing around said character's actions while in this state, despite the fact that they would never behave that way normally, and even after Nasu had [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped spent the better part of the story beating them over the head with the concept.]][[invoked]]
** The ''VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}}'' fandom often fails to understand Kohaku's character, despite it being spelled out in black and white. [[spoiler: She masked her emotions and detached herself from the world around her in response to being abused as a child. She took on the cheerful persona in response to her formerly cheerful sister becoming mopey and reserved. Kohaku's cheerful personality [[BecomingTheMask gradually became her real one]] without her realizing it. ''The Kohaku that we see is the real one.'' She formulated a plan to get the Tohnos to kill each other not because she was angry, but because she thought that it was what a normal person would do. She is not a vengeful sadist who would randomly murder your family because she likes seeing you squirm.]]
** ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' has a similar problem with the fandom in regards to the protagonist, Shirou Emiya. If you asked most casual fans of the ''Fate'' series about Shirou, most would say he's an idiot and boring. The whole point of his character is that [[IntendedAudienceReaction he starts off that way]], only for the story to reveal the layers of why he acts the way he does. He has a serious cause of SurvivorsGuilt that makes him think he owes his life to those who died, and so he wants to protect others to give his own life some kind of meaning, all to justify why he survived but others didn't. Various characters question why Shirou does this, and point out how unhealthy this is, but Shirou doesn't see it that way. And yet the story makes sure to point out that he is flawed in this approach. He's an intended {{Deconstruction}} of the AllLovingHero and ChronicHeroSyndrome for a reason. Despite this, Shirou still gets criticized as a StockShonenHero in spite of the fact that the series spends a good deal of time examining his character flaws.
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* Creator/WilliamBlake's "[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton_(Blake) Newton]]", due to its "heroic" style, is widely misinterpreted as an approving depiction of UsefulNotes/IsaacNewton (eg in the three-dimensional sculpture by Eduardo Paolozzi inspired by it). In fact, the anti-materialist and mystically Christian Blake intended the work as a caricature mocking Newton for paying attention to insignificant things on Earth when he should have been thinking about his immortal soul.[[note]]While Newton was also involved in theological and spiritual pursuits, his style of spirituality was one that Blake considered far too intellectualised and arrogantly confident in the power of human reason.[[/note]] This is made clear by the engraving's original subtitle, ''Personification of Man Limited by Reason''.

[[AC:Articles]]
* [[SelfDemonstrating/CharacterPages Self-Demonstrating Character Pages]], a type of JustForFun page on this very wiki where characters describe themselves in first person using their signature speech patterns, were born from misunderstanding the point of our SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}} article. Deadpool's page was written as if Deadpool himself was narrating, because one of the character's defining characteristics is how he has NoFourthWall, so the idea was that if he addresses the readers in the comic books, it's only natural that he would do the same on his TV Tropes page. Then people proceeded to miss the joke when [[FollowTheLeader the style caught on]], and as a result there are many pages dedicated to individual Marvel and DC characters that are written with NoFourthWall, even if the character in question doesn't behave as such. Then it proceeded to extend into different works entirely, some missing the joke by an even ''wider'' margin, as characters with actual Fourth Wall attunement are missed out in favor of others. And even if you think that just describing a character using that character's "voice" can still be interesting, ''that'' joke was itself missed by an even ''wider'' margin when tropers started creating pages for any characters they like, even if they didn't have interesting speech patterns. Fortunately, most (hopefully all) of the "uninteresting" pages were deleted.

[[AC:Asian Animation]]
* Rumor has it that ''Animation/SquirrelAndHedgehog'' is meant to bash and demonize the United States in favor of North Korea, but you'd never guess that. The Americans, portrayed by badass wolves armed with {{Ray Gun}}s and GlowingEyesOfDoom, are five different kinds of awesome compared to the North Koreans who are portrayed by wimpy little rodents. The BigBad Lt.Col Fox Vixen is also [[PopularWithFurries popular enough, particularly with]] the UsefulNotes/FurryFandom, to have spawned an entire slew of fan art from Americans praising her. The explanation given is due to ValuesDissonance; Americans love seeing themselves portrayed as fearsome, stoic and mighty wolves, whilst North Koreans center a lot of their cultural identity around being innocent, meek and peace-loving souls tormented by big, powerful bullies, as a result of government propaganda. Not only that, the "innocent, meek and peace-loving souls tormented by big, powerful bullies" setup mainly works if the victims have the moral high ground, something that the Flower Hill (North Korea) residents clearly lack.

[[AC:Fanfiction]]
* ''Fanfic/TheConversionBureau'' was written to explain fic writer Blaze's hypothesis on why Equestria had no humans, as well as being WishFulfillment. Due to his lack of experience as a writer, the story came off as incredibly misanthropic. The mixture of the backlash Blaze received as well as his waning interest in the story rendered it a DeadFic. However, other authors came into the scene to write their own {{Recursive Fanfiction}}s based off ''TCB'', taking the basic framework of the story to espouse their HumansAreTheRealMonsters views. This is despite the fact that the only reason that ''TCB'' had such a message was due to lack of skill by the original writer in presenting an idea, not intentional misanthropy.

[[AC: Software]]
* [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flask_(web_framework) Flask]] was originally created as a parody of similar web frameworks, implementing every bad design decision from other frameworks that the author could think of. [[http://lucumr.pocoo.org/2010/4/3/april-1st-post-mortem/ He was quite surprised to learn that some people actually liked it, and asked him for the source code so that they could expand it.]]

[[AC:Theme Parks]]
* Ride/ActionPark was notorious for its [[NoOSHACompliance lax safety standards]], which eventually led to it shutting down in 1996 under a tide of lawsuits. People were attracted to the park ''because'' of its unsafe rides, seeing it less as an AmusementParkOfDoom and more an Amusement Park of Badassery, such that it became a CultClassic among [[{{Joisey}} New Jerseyans]] who [[TooCoolToLive bemoaned its eventual fate]]. Nostalgia for the park led to its replacement on the property, Mountain Creek Waterpark, being briefly renamed Action Park from 2014 through 2016, and a VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory film called ''Action Point'' being made by a number of ''Series/{{Jackass}}'' alumni in 2018.

[[AC:Visual Novels]]
* With ''Franchise/AceAttorney'':
** In ''VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney'', some people complain about the moment where [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption you're forced to make Phoenix present the diary page in the flashback trial]], [[DramaticIrony despite the player knowing full well it's forged evidence that will get him disbarred]]. These complaints miss the point that "unfair" and "gut wrenching" is exactly how this scene is meant to feel. The past is the past, and Phoenix's entire stance over what happened during that trial is "what's done is done"; he can complain about it all he wants, but it changes nothing. You can't change what happened to Phoenix through the comfort of the fourth wall.
** In ''[[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies Dual Destinies]]'', there's some people who are incredibly pissed off about the reveal where it turns out The Phantom is [[spoiler:impersonating Bobby Fulbright, and the real Fulbright's been dead since before the game]]. These people are failing to realize that that's exactly what it's supposed to feel like. The Phantom played you for a fool, and made you trust him completely, only for it turn out he's not even the person he says he is. That anger you feel deep down at that plot twist? It was intentional.
* ''VisualNovel/AmnesiaMemories'' gets hit with this, likely due to a case of NoExportForYou, since the other games of the series have, so far, not been localized to the western market. This particularly hits hard because ''Amnesia: Later'' has after stories depicting the relationships after the Good Endings, often showing repercussions and consequences of actions taken during ''Amnesia: Memories''.
** Some western players found the boyfriends to be horrible characters, despite the entire point of their routes and Good Ending dealing with the fact that they are not as they initially appear to be. Shin may look like a [[AllGirlsWantBadBoys bad boy]], but his appearance belies that he's really got [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold good intentions behind his harsh words]]. Ikki gets labeled as nothing but a playboy, when his route shows that he's sick and tired of being labeled a playboy by everyone else, and really wants to find a meaningful relationship with one person and even settle down. [[NoSocialSkills Kent]] and [[BeneathTheMask Toma]] are their own little misaimed fandom.
** Kent's lack of social skills and extremely rational outlook on life rubs people the wrong way, citing that his relationship with the heroine is terrible and that they should break up. Some players didn't realize that Kent's entire route was one big [[DeconstructedTrope deconstruction]] of the BelligerentSexualTension trope seen in a lot of romances in media. The game has characters admit that their relationship was likely doomed to failure because their differences, and refusal to attempt to see eye-to-eye, made both of them unhappy. Kent trying to open up and be more open about his emotions towards the heroine, as well as her own stubborn stance about not being honest herself, was necessary for them to even begin having open conversations with each other.
** Toma gets knocked a lot for turning out to be a {{yandere}} that locks the heroine away, with many players even claiming that's his whole personality. Even thinking of him as someone who enjoys and would go through with his attempt at raping the heroine. Toma is not supposed to be seen as sympathetic in his endeavors, but also not be quickly shrugged off. He's not happy with how he acted towards the heroine and is deeply ashamed of it.
* ''Franchise/{{Danganronpa}}'':
** Fans often tend to believe that the Ultimates are gifted people, the best in their area and that for having talent, they are above the normal students. This goes counter to one of the main themes of the game, particularly ''VisualNovel/Danganronpa2GoodbyeDespair'', that one's worth is not necessarily defined by talent or lack thereof. Some Free Time events show the various Ultimates connecting with Makoto Naegi ([[BornLucky the Ultimate Lucky Student]]) or Hajime Hinata ([[spoiler:who has no Ultimate talent at all]]) more easily than most of their Ultimate classmates, simply because those two are more normal, and it's noted that the Ultimates [[WhenAllYouHaveIsAHammer tend to fall back on their talents in desperate situations]] (most of the murders involve the culprits using their talent). Near the end of the second game, Hajime, [[spoiler:after learning that his [[IJustWantToBeSpecial desire for a talent]] led to him becoming Izuru Kamukura and essentially causing the events that led to the collapse of civilization]], realizes that self-confidence is most important of all, enabling him to save the day and [[spoiler:live on as himself]], an outcome he is happy with.
*** The main character seeing the world in this light is Nagito Komaeda, who gets continuously crazier and crazier through the game and [[spoiler: plays a later part of the game as an antagonist, even trying to kill everybody in chapter 5]]. Outside of him, you have the very Hope's Peak Academy, which was responsible for [[spoiler:laying out the ground for Junko to cause The Tragedy. They treated the Reserve Students as useless cash cows, spent insane amount of money on the Main Course, of which the students were not even asked to participate the class, as long as they still had their talents, they covered up murders, genocides and bombings caused by students, who often got minimum punishment for it and created Izuru Kamukura, by injecting talents on a normal student until he became devoid of empathy for humans and was easily used by Junko as a killing machine.]]
** From the first game, Chihiro Fujisaki's earned fans by [[spoiler: being seen as a deliberate WholesomeCrossdresser rather than a disguise created to avoid bullying, and that his feminine features should be embraced because of it. It gets to the point where they consider him a "girlfriend" character of sorts or interpret him as trans, ignoring that he'd like to improve himself on his own merits instead of continually living a lie. The UnfortunateImplications of him needing to keep this facade because his natural girlniness makes him not a "real" man ignores his character arc.]]
** There are those who actually agree with the Hope's Peak Saga's BigBad, [[spoiler:Junko Enoshima]], with their "Burn it all down" attitude being cited as the primary reason considering all the corruption Hope's Peak has pulled. [[spoiler: Junko's EvilIsSexy looks and natural charisma are also contributing factors, even though the reason she ended up torching the system was because she was ''bored''. She's good at analyzing what pieces of the DisasterDominoes should lead to what, sure, but even she tells her classmates in her last living moments that there's nothing about her that remotely deserves any praise or sympathy.]]
** In what could be a case of Misaimed {{Hatedom}}, some believe ''VisualNovel/DanganronpaV3KillingHarmony'' is an insult to the fandom, due to numerous TakeThatAudience remarks to the in-universe viewers and the end goal of [[spoiler:ending ''Danganronpa'' in-universe]] is a sign they [[TorchTheFranchiseAndRun just want the franchise to end]]. The development has said this wasn't the case and the nature of the player and the in-universe audience was supposed to simply be on a similar level.
* ''VisualNovel/DokiDokiLiteratureClub'': There are people who agree with Monika that nothing she did was wrong [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman because she did it to fictional characters]], not real people. These same people will downplay Monika's more negative traits of her being a {{Yandere}} who manipulated, gaslit, and murdered her friends, then destroyed her game's world just to get close to [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou the player]]. Part of this has to do with her illustrating surprising HiddenDepths during Act 3, showing her polite demeanor wasn't entirely an act. What these fans miss is that the game clearly portrays Monika as a monster, [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds even if there is a tragic reason behind her actions]]. Monika herself even [[HeelRealization realizes this]] once the player deletes her from the game. It's also called further into question by the ending's reveal that being meta-aware isn't a Monika-specific thing, but more something that comes with being the Club's President. Depending on which of the MultipleEndings a player gets, Sayori will start to act just as bad as Monika before she's stopped in the bad ending, or thank the player for trying to make everyone happy despite knowing they were all video game characters in the good ending. Monika is and was always meant to be in the wrong, and her stance that "it's just a video game" doesn't excuse how she acted.
* ''VisualNovel/KatawaShoujo'':
** The game itself is an inversion; on hearing that a game about dating crippled girls (blind, amputees, etc) is being written by (mostly) refugees of Website/FourChan, many reviewers are prepared to find a depressingly cruel, mocking game on par with ''Rapelay,'' instead of a fairly realistic and touching game about living with (and dating) handicaps.
** On the other hand, Word of God (word of the devblog, actually) has denied the opposite interpretation that the story is meant to be a sympathetic analysis of life with a handicap. The setting comes second to the genre (romance). The fact that they claim the handicaps are not actually the focus of the game makes it even better.
** The moral in Hanako's route is that Hanako doesn't like her crippling shyness and insecurities and wants people to see her as an equal instead of as a broken child to protect and baby. There are quite a few KS fans who love Hanako for her "adorable shyness" and get upset at Hisao for his and Hanako's first time going so wrong, despite the fact that Hanako was the one who initiated it. The fact that [[spoiler: Hisao has a brief HeroicBSOD upon mistakenly believing that he ''forced Hanako into sex'' and Hanako has to clear up that he didn't rape her]] should say, uh, something.
** Similarly, the fact that Shizune is really NotGoodWithPeople and straightforward to the point of bluntness makes people believe that [[spoiler: she raped Hisao in TheirFirstTime.]]
* [[Franchise/{{Nasuverse}} Type Moon]] works are heavily subjected to this.
** [[CreatorThumbprint A theme that head writer Nasu uses quite often]] is the idea that we all have darkness within ourselves. You still get a little agitated when you think of something thoughtless that your friend did years ago. You feel that the girl you like should have gone with you instead of this other guy. You have an old grudge towards one of your relatives. Your acquaintances all have little flaws that annoy you. And so on and so forth. But you keep all of this under wraps, because you realize that you're being irrational or petty and/or that it's insignificant next to how much you care about this person. But what happens when [[NotHimself you're possessed by a supernatural power and forced to act on all of these dark urges]]? Suffice to say, none of us would be good people. Nasu has used this with no less than four characters, and two of them have {{Hatedom}}s that center their bashing around said character's actions while in this state, despite the fact that they would never behave that way normally, and even after Nasu had [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped spent the better part of the story beating them over the head with the concept.]][[invoked]]
** The ''VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}}'' fandom often fails to understand Kohaku's character, despite it being spelled out in black and white. [[spoiler: She masked her emotions and detached herself from the world around her in response to being abused as a child. She took on the cheerful persona in response to her formerly cheerful sister becoming mopey and reserved. Kohaku's cheerful personality [[BecomingTheMask gradually became her real one]] without her realizing it. ''The Kohaku that we see is the real one.'' She formulated a plan to get the Tohnos to kill each other not because she was angry, but because she thought that it was what a normal person would do. She is not a vengeful sadist who would randomly murder your family because she likes seeing you squirm.]]
** ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' has a similar problem with the fandom in regards to the protagonist, Shirou Emiya. If you asked most casual fans of the ''Fate'' series about Shirou, most would say he's an idiot and boring. The whole point of his character is that [[IntendedAudienceReaction he starts off that way]], only for the story to reveal the layers of why he acts the way he does. He has a serious cause of SurvivorsGuilt that makes him think he owes his life to those who died, and so he wants to protect others to give his own life some kind of meaning, all to justify why he survived but others didn't. Various characters question why Shirou does this, and point out how unhealthy this is, but Shirou doesn't see it that way. And yet the story makes sure to point out that he is flawed in this approach. He's an intended {{Deconstruction}} of the AllLovingHero and ChronicHeroSyndrome for a reason. Despite this, Shirou still gets criticized as a StockShonenHero in spite of the fact that the series spends a good deal of time examining his character flaws.
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** One theme that the head writer, Nasu, loves is the idea that we all have darkness within ourselves. You get a little agitated when you think of something thoughtless that your friend did years ago, you feel that the girl that you like should have gone with you instead of him, you have an old grudge towards one of your relatives, your acquaintances all have little flaws that annoy you, etc., but you keep it under wraps, because you realize that you're being irrational or petty, or that it's just insignificant next to your love for this person. But what happens when you're possessed by a supernatural power and forced to act on all of your dark urges? Suffice to say, none of us would be good people. Nasu has used this with no less than four characters, and two of them have hatebases that center their bashing around said character's actions while in this state, despite the fact that they would never behave that way normally, and even after Nasu had spent the better part of the story beating them over the head with the concept.
** ''VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}}'' fandom often fails to understand Kohaku's character, despite it being spelled out in black and white. [[spoiler: She masked her emotions and detached herself from the world around her in response to being abused as a child. She took on the cheerful persona in response to her formerly cheerful sister becoming mopey and reserved. Her cheerful personality [[BecomingTheMask gradually became her real one]] without her realizing it. ''The Kohaku that we see is the real one.'' She formulated a plan to get the Tohnos to kill each other not because she was pissed (remember that she was detached by this point), but because she thought that it was what a normal person would do. She is not a vengeful sadist who would randomly murder your family because she likes seeing you squirm.]]
** ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' has a similar problem with the fandom in regards to the protagonist, Shirou Emiya. If you asked most casual fans of the ''Fate'' series about Shirou, most would say he's an idiot and boring. The whole point of his character is that, [[IntendedAudienceReaction he starts off that way]] only for the story to reveal the layers of why he acts the way he does. He has a serious cause of SurvivorsGuilt that makes him think he owes his life to those who died, and so he wants to protect others to give his own life some kind of meaning, all to justify why he survived while others didn't. Various characters question why he does this, point out how wrong this is, and how suicidal this is, but Shirou doesn't see it that way, and yet the story makes sure to point out that he is flawed in this approach. He's an intended {{Deconstruction}} of the AllLovingHero and ChronicHeroSyndrome for a reason. Despite this, you typically see fans just see him as an idiot with no understanding of his views.

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** One [[CreatorThumbprint A theme that the head writer, Nasu, loves writer Nasu uses quite often]] is the idea that we all have darkness within ourselves. You still get a little agitated when you think of something thoughtless that your friend did years ago, you ago. You feel that the girl that you like should have gone with you instead of him, you this other guy. You have an old grudge towards one of your relatives, your relatives. Your acquaintances all have little flaws that annoy you, etc., but you. And so on and so forth. But you keep it all of this under wraps, because you realize that you're being irrational or petty, or petty and/or that it's just insignificant next to your love for how much you care about this person. But what happens when [[NotHimself you're possessed by a supernatural power and forced to act on all of your these dark urges? urges]]? Suffice to say, none of us would be good people. Nasu has used this with no less than four characters, and two of them have hatebases {{Hatedom}}s that center their bashing around said character's actions while in this state, despite the fact that they would never behave that way normally, and even after Nasu had [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped spent the better part of the story beating them over the head with the concept.
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** The ''VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}}'' fandom often fails to understand Kohaku's character, despite it being spelled out in black and white. [[spoiler: She masked her emotions and detached herself from the world around her in response to being abused as a child. She took on the cheerful persona in response to her formerly cheerful sister becoming mopey and reserved. Her Kohaku's cheerful personality [[BecomingTheMask gradually became her real one]] without her realizing it. ''The Kohaku that we see is the real one.'' She formulated a plan to get the Tohnos to kill each other not because she was pissed (remember that she was detached by this point), angry, but because she thought that it was what a normal person would do. She is not a vengeful sadist who would randomly murder your family because she likes seeing you squirm.]]
** ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' has a similar problem with the fandom in regards to the protagonist, Shirou Emiya. If you asked most casual fans of the ''Fate'' series about Shirou, most would say he's an idiot and boring. The whole point of his character is that, that [[IntendedAudienceReaction he starts off that way]] way]], only for the story to reveal the layers of why he acts the way he does. He has a serious cause of SurvivorsGuilt that makes him think he owes his life to those who died, and so he wants to protect others to give his own life some kind of meaning, all to justify why he survived while but others didn't. Various characters question why he Shirou does this, and point out how wrong this is, and how suicidal unhealthy this is, but Shirou doesn't see it that way, and way. And yet the story makes sure to point out that he is flawed in this approach. He's an intended {{Deconstruction}} of the AllLovingHero and ChronicHeroSyndrome for a reason. Despite this, you typically see fans just see him Shirou still gets criticized as an idiot with no understanding a StockShonenHero in spite of the fact that the series spends a good deal of time examining his views.character flaws.
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** There are those who actually agree with the Hope's Peak Saga's BigBad, [[spoiler:Junko Enoshima]], with their "Burn it all down" attitude being cited as the number 1 reason considering all the corruption Hope's Peak has pulled. [[spoiler: Junko's EvilIsSexy looks and natural charisma are also contributing factors, even though the reason she ended up torching the system was because she was ''bored''. She's good at analyzing what pieces of the DisasterDominoes should lead to what, sure, but even she tells her classmates in her last living moments that there's nothing about her that remotely dsserves any praise or sympathy.]]

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** There are those who actually agree with the Hope's Peak Saga's BigBad, [[spoiler:Junko Enoshima]], with their "Burn it all down" attitude being cited as the number 1 primary reason considering all the corruption Hope's Peak has pulled. [[spoiler: Junko's EvilIsSexy looks and natural charisma are also contributing factors, even though the reason she ended up torching the system was because she was ''bored''. She's good at analyzing what pieces of the DisasterDominoes should lead to what, sure, but even she tells her classmates in her last living moments that there's nothing about her that remotely dsserves deserves any praise or sympathy.]]
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* ''Fanfic/TheConversionBureau'' was written to explain fic writer Blaze's hypothesis on why Equestria had no humans, as well as being WishFulfillment. Due to his lack of experience as a writer, the story came off as incredibly misanthropic. The mixture of the backlash Blaze received as well as his waning interest in the story rendered it a DeadFic. However, other authors came into the scene to write their own {{Recursive Fanfiction}}s based off ''TCB'', taking the basic framework of the story to espouse their HumansAreTheRealMonsters views. This is despite the fact that the only reason that ''TCB'' had such a message was due to lack of skill in presenting an idea,not intentional misanthropy.
* Some people need it explained to them that ''FanFic/FriendshipIsOptimal'' is supposed to be PsychologicalHorror, '''not''' WishFulfillment.

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* ''Fanfic/TheConversionBureau'' was written to explain fic writer Blaze's hypothesis on why Equestria had no humans, as well as being WishFulfillment. Due to his lack of experience as a writer, the story came off as incredibly misanthropic. The mixture of the backlash Blaze received as well as his waning interest in the story rendered it a DeadFic. However, other authors came into the scene to write their own {{Recursive Fanfiction}}s based off ''TCB'', taking the basic framework of the story to espouse their HumansAreTheRealMonsters views. This is despite the fact that the only reason that ''TCB'' had such a message was due to lack of skill by the original writer in presenting an idea,not idea, not intentional misanthropy.
* Some people need it explained to them that ''FanFic/FriendshipIsOptimal'' is supposed to be PsychologicalHorror, '''not''' WishFulfillment.



** In ''VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney'', some people complain about the moment where [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption you're forced to make Phoenix present the diary page in the flashback trial]], [[DramaticIrony despite the player knowing full well it's the forged evidence that gets him disbarred]]. These complaints miss the point that "unfair" and "gut wrenching" is exactly how it's meant to feel. The past is the past, and Phoenix's entire stance in the game is that "what's done was done". You can't just change what happened to Phoenix through the comfort of the fourth wall.
** In ''[[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies Dual Destinies]]'', there's some people who are incredibly pissed off about the reveal where it turns out The Phantom is [[spoiler:impersonating Bobby Fulbright, and the real Fulbright's been dead since before the game]]. These people are failing to realize that that's exactly what it's supposed to feel like. The Phantom played you for a fool, and [[spoiler:made you trust him completely, only for it turn out he's not even the person he says he is]]. That anger you feel deep down at that plot twist? It was intentional.

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** In ''VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney'', some people complain about the moment where [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption you're forced to make Phoenix present the diary page in the flashback trial]], [[DramaticIrony despite the player knowing full well it's the forged evidence that gets will get him disbarred]]. These complaints miss the point that "unfair" and "gut wrenching" is exactly how it's this scene is meant to feel. The past is the past, and Phoenix's entire stance in the game is over what happened during that trial is "what's done was done". is done"; he can complain about it all he wants, but it changes nothing. You can't just change what happened to Phoenix through the comfort of the fourth wall.
** In ''[[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies Dual Destinies]]'', there's some people who are incredibly pissed off about the reveal where it turns out The Phantom is [[spoiler:impersonating Bobby Fulbright, and the real Fulbright's been dead since before the game]]. These people are failing to realize that that's exactly what it's supposed to feel like. The Phantom played you for a fool, and [[spoiler:made made you trust him completely, only for it turn out he's not even the person he says he is]].is. That anger you feel deep down at that plot twist? It was intentional.
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Added a second reason why most people would root for the wolves (USA).
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* Rumor has it that ''Animation/SquirrelAndHedgehog'' is meant to bash and demonize the United States in favor of North Korea, but you'd never guess that. The Americans, portrayed by badass wolves armed with {{Ray Gun}}s and GlowingEyesOfDoom, are five different kinds of awesome compared to the North Koreans who are portrayed by wimpy little rodents. The BigBad Lt.Col Fox Vixen is also [[PopularWithFurries popular enough, particularly with]] the UsefulNotes/FurryFandom, to have spawned an entire slew of fan art from Americans praising her. The explanation given is due to ValuesDissonance; Americans love seeing themselves portrayed as fearsome, stoic and mighty wolves, whilst North Koreans center a lot of their cultural identity around being innocent, meek and peace-loving souls tormented by big, powerful bullies, as a result of government propaganda.

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* Rumor has it that ''Animation/SquirrelAndHedgehog'' is meant to bash and demonize the United States in favor of North Korea, but you'd never guess that. The Americans, portrayed by badass wolves armed with {{Ray Gun}}s and GlowingEyesOfDoom, are five different kinds of awesome compared to the North Koreans who are portrayed by wimpy little rodents. The BigBad Lt.Col Fox Vixen is also [[PopularWithFurries popular enough, particularly with]] the UsefulNotes/FurryFandom, to have spawned an entire slew of fan art from Americans praising her. The explanation given is due to ValuesDissonance; Americans love seeing themselves portrayed as fearsome, stoic and mighty wolves, whilst North Koreans center a lot of their cultural identity around being innocent, meek and peace-loving souls tormented by big, powerful bullies, as a result of government propaganda.
propaganda. Not only that, the "innocent, meek and peace-loving souls tormented by big, powerful bullies" setup mainly works if the victims have the moral high ground, something that the Flower Hill (North Korea) residents clearly lack.
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** ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' has a similar problem with the fandom in regards to the protagonist, Shirou Emiya. If you asked most casual fans of the ''Fate'' series about Shirou, most would say he's an idiot and boring. The whole point of his character is that, [[IntendedAudiceneReaction he starts off that way]] only for the story to reveal the layers of why he acts the way he does. He has a serious cause of SurvivorsGuilt that makes him think he owes his life to those who died, and so he wants to protect others to give his own life some kind of meaning, all to justify why he survived while others didn't. Various characters question why he does this, point out how wrong this is, and how suicidal this is, but Shirou doesn't see it that way, and yet the story makes sure to point out that he is flawed in this approach. He's an intended {{Deconstruction}} of the AllLovingHero and ChronicHeroSyndrome for a reason. Despite this, you typically see fans just see him as an idiot with no understanding of his views.

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** ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' has a similar problem with the fandom in regards to the protagonist, Shirou Emiya. If you asked most casual fans of the ''Fate'' series about Shirou, most would say he's an idiot and boring. The whole point of his character is that, [[IntendedAudiceneReaction [[IntendedAudienceReaction he starts off that way]] only for the story to reveal the layers of why he acts the way he does. He has a serious cause of SurvivorsGuilt that makes him think he owes his life to those who died, and so he wants to protect others to give his own life some kind of meaning, all to justify why he survived while others didn't. Various characters question why he does this, point out how wrong this is, and how suicidal this is, but Shirou doesn't see it that way, and yet the story makes sure to point out that he is flawed in this approach. He's an intended {{Deconstruction}} of the AllLovingHero and ChronicHeroSyndrome for a reason. Despite this, you typically see fans just see him as an idiot with no understanding of his views.
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The Fanfiction section is for how people have missed the point of the messages given by fanfiction, not fanfic writers' missing the intended message of the works they're writing fics on. Will relocate to Anime and Manga sub-page if not already covered there.


* There is a huge percentage of ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf'' fanfiction that portrays Ranma as eventually coming to enjoy his GenderBender status, or even to outright prefer his female form to his male one. Many of these go so far as to show "her" acting more conventionally feminine by preference, sometimes even to the extent of falling in love with men and bearing children. This seems to stem from a combination of MostFanficWritersAreGirls and transgirls latching onto Ranma as a wish-fulfillment character, completely ignoring that, in canon, Ranma absolutely ''hates'' his GenderBender status, wants nothing more than to be all male again, and [[LossOfIdentity the idea of physically and/or mentally changing permanently into a girl absolutely terrifies him]]. He has a particular hatred of guys trying to flirt with him, being vehemently straight. The fact Ranma has more innate domestic skills than [[FirstGirlWins Akane Tendo]] is supposed to be part of the comedy. Ditto his tendency to engage in feminine roles to achieve something he wants; that's just HypocriticalHumor, given his professed distaste for acting that way. On the other side, the male fanbase wants to see him stay female [[RuleOfSexy because he's cuter that way]]; they can get all the fun of a [[TheLadette Ladette]] character, but none of the drawbacks of the boorishness of "natural" males and shallowness and emotions of "natural" females (making him the perfect girl to pair up). Again, this ignores that Ranma delibreately plays up these traits for his own ends, and that the Three Laws of Gender-Bending don't apply to him (and he doesn't ''want'' them to) as often as most would like.

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* There is a huge percentage of ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf'' fanfiction that portrays Ranma as eventually coming to enjoy his GenderBender status, or even to outright prefer his female form to his male one. Many of these go so far as to show "her" acting more conventionally feminine by preference, sometimes even to the extent of falling in love with men and bearing children. This seems to stem from a combination of MostFanficWritersAreGirls and transgirls latching onto Ranma as a wish-fulfillment character, completely ignoring that, in canon, Ranma absolutely ''hates'' his GenderBender status, wants nothing more than to be all male again, and [[LossOfIdentity the idea of physically and/or mentally changing permanently into a girl absolutely terrifies him]]. He has a particular hatred of guys trying to flirt with him, being vehemently straight. The fact Ranma has more innate domestic skills than [[FirstGirlWins Akane Tendo]] is supposed to be part of the comedy. Ditto his tendency to engage in feminine roles to achieve something he wants; that's just HypocriticalHumor, given his professed distaste for acting that way. On the other side, the male fanbase wants to see him stay female [[RuleOfSexy because he's cuter that way]]; they can get all the fun of a [[TheLadette Ladette]] character, but none of the drawbacks of the boorishness of "natural" males and shallowness and emotions of "natural" females (making him the perfect girl to pair up). Again, this ignores that Ranma delibreately plays up these traits for his own ends, and that the Three Laws of Gender-Bending don't apply to him (and he doesn't ''want'' them to) as often as most would like.
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** ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' has a similar problem with the fandom in regards to the protagonist, Shirou Emiya. If you asked most casual fans of the ''Fate'' series about Shirou, most would say he's an idiot and boring. The whole point of his character is that, [[IntendedAudiceneReaction he starts off that way]] only for the story to reveal the layers of why he acts the way he does. He has a serious cause of SurvivorsGuilt that makes him think he owes his life to those who died, and so he wants to protect others to give his own life some kind of meaning, all to justify why he survived while others didn't. Various characters question why he does this, point out how wrong this is, and how suicidal this is, but Shirou doesn't see it that way, and yet the story makes sure to point out that he is flawed in this approach. He's an intended {{Deconstruction}} of the AllLovingHero and ChronicHeroSyndrome for a reason. Despite this, you typically see fans just see him as an idiot with no understanding of his views.
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* Rumor has it that ''Animation/SquirrelAndHedgehog'' is meant to bash and demonize the United States in favor of North Korea, but you'd never guess that. The Americans, portrayed by badass wolves armed with FrickinLaserBeams and GlowingEyesOfDoom, are five different kinds of awesome compared to the North Koreans who are portrayed by wimpy little rodents. The BigBad Lt.Col Fox Vixen is also popular enough, particularly with the UsefulNotes/FurryFandom, to have spawned an entire slew of fan art from Americans praising her. The explanation given is due to ValuesDissonance; Americans love seeing themselves portrayed as fearsome, stoic and mighty wolves, whilst North Koreans center a lot of their cultural identity around being innocent, meek and peace-loving souls tormented by big, powerful bullies, as a result of government propaganda.

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* Rumor has it that ''Animation/SquirrelAndHedgehog'' is meant to bash and demonize the United States in favor of North Korea, but you'd never guess that. The Americans, portrayed by badass wolves armed with FrickinLaserBeams {{Ray Gun}}s and GlowingEyesOfDoom, are five different kinds of awesome compared to the North Koreans who are portrayed by wimpy little rodents. The BigBad Lt.Col Fox Vixen is also [[PopularWithFurries popular enough, particularly with with]] the UsefulNotes/FurryFandom, to have spawned an entire slew of fan art from Americans praising her. The explanation given is due to ValuesDissonance; Americans love seeing themselves portrayed as fearsome, stoic and mighty wolves, whilst North Koreans center a lot of their cultural identity around being innocent, meek and peace-loving souls tormented by big, powerful bullies, as a result of government propaganda.



** In ''[[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies Dual Destinies]]'', there's some people who are incredibly pissed off about the reveal where it turns out The Phantom is [[spoiler:impersonating Bobby Fulbright, and the real Fulbright's been dead since before the game]]. These people are failing to realize that that's exactly what it's supposed to feel like. The Phantom played you for a fool, and made you trust him completely, only for it turn out he's not even the person he says he is]]. That anger you feel deep down at that plot twist? It was intentional.

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** In ''[[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies Dual Destinies]]'', there's some people who are incredibly pissed off about the reveal where it turns out The Phantom is [[spoiler:impersonating Bobby Fulbright, and the real Fulbright's been dead since before the game]]. These people are failing to realize that that's exactly what it's supposed to feel like. The Phantom played you for a fool, and made [[spoiler:made you trust him completely, only for it turn out he's not even the person he says he is]]. That anger you feel deep down at that plot twist? It was intentional.

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