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Compare and contrast ''Zipang'''s events with the actions of the crew of the ''USS Nimitz'' in the 1980 movie ''Film/TheFinalCountdown'', where that ship was sent to Pearl Harbor ([[spoiler:and rescued a senator from the time period, too]]).

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Compare and contrast ''Zipang'''s events with the actions of the crew of the ''USS Nimitz'' in the 1980 movie ''Film/TheFinalCountdown'', where that ship was sent to Pearl Harbor ([[spoiler:and rescued a senator from the time period, too]]).Harbor.
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** Japanese: [[UsefulNotes/YamamotoIsoroku Isoroku Yamamoto]], [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsumasa_Yonai Mitsumasa Yonai]], [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanji_Ishiwara Kanji Ishiwara]], [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masanobu_Tsuji Masanobu Tsuji]]

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** Japanese: [[UsefulNotes/YamamotoIsoroku Isoroku Yamamoto]], Yamamoto, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsumasa_Yonai Mitsumasa Yonai]], [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanji_Ishiwara Kanji Ishiwara]], [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masanobu_Tsuji Masanobu Tsuji]]
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** [[UsefulNotes/YamamotoIsoroku Isoroku Yamamoto]]. When told by Captain Umezu about his future death[[note]]he was shot down on his transport plane and killed on April 8, 1943 while flying on an inspection tour in the South Pacific[[/note]], he just expresses his satisfaction of dying on the front lines.

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** [[UsefulNotes/YamamotoIsoroku Isoroku Yamamoto]].UsefulNotes/IsorokuYamamoto. When told by Captain Umezu about his future death[[note]]he was shot down on his transport plane and killed on April 8, 1943 while flying on an inspection tour in the South Pacific[[/note]], he just expresses his satisfaction of dying on the front lines.
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* RogueAgent: Takumi Kusaka. He resigns from the Imperial Navy and heads off to attempt to utilize the raw resources in Manchukuo to sustain Japan's war economy and later [[spoiler: build a nuclear weapon]] outside the authority of the Japanese military.

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* RogueAgent: RogueSoldier: Takumi Kusaka. He resigns from the Imperial Navy and heads off to attempt to utilize the raw resources in Manchukuo to sustain Japan's war economy and later [[spoiler: build a nuclear weapon]] outside the authority of the Japanese military.
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* NotSoDifferent: The time-displaced crew of the JMSDF [[MyCountryRightOrWrong do not want Japan to go through the same fate]] that it went through in their history, regardless of their differences with the contemporary Japanese in [[ValuesDissonance values]], politics, morality, and the suffering of Japanese and non-Japanese in the war.
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* HistoricalVillainDowngrade: The MoralDilemma faced by the crew largely ignores the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties#Japanese_war_crimes five-to-twenty million people]] who died due to Japanese economic mismanagement or War Crimes and focuses instead upon Japan's two million military and one million civilian dead. This can be considered accurate in the sense of reflecting how a SDF crew, being Japanese (even in the modern-day), would (like most countries) have a historical view skewed towards the Japanese people's experiences and suffering during the war, giving less weight to the suffering they inflicted on others. The ''Mirai'''s crew feeling such a way with ''complete uniformity'' is more questionable.

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* HistoricalVillainDowngrade: The MoralDilemma FriendOrIdolDecision faced by the crew largely ignores the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties#Japanese_war_crimes five-to-twenty million people]] who died due to Japanese economic mismanagement or War Crimes and focuses instead upon Japan's two million military and one million civilian dead. This can be considered accurate in the sense of reflecting how a SDF crew, being Japanese (even in the modern-day), would (like most countries) have a historical view skewed towards the Japanese people's experiences and suffering during the war, giving less weight to the suffering they inflicted on others. The ''Mirai'''s crew feeling such a way with ''complete uniformity'' is more questionable.

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* TwoDVisualsThreeDEffects: The water in many of the scenes in the anime adaptation, especially those involving ''Mirai'' sailing through the water. Otherwise, the cell shading is quite well done.



* ConspicuousCGI: The water in many of the scenes in the anime adaptation, especially those involving ''Mirai'' sailing through the water. Otherwise, the cell shading is quite well done.

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* AlienSpaceBats: How the time storm comes to exist, how it works, and why it's targeting the ''Mirai'' at that particular time... [[MST3KMantra who cares?]]

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* AlienSpaceBats: How the time storm comes to exist, how it works, and why it's targeting the ''Mirai'' at that particular time... [[MST3KMantra who cares?]]time.



** There's also the less obvious issue of fuel and spare parts. Something like ''JDS Mirai'' is powered by gas turbines. Those use jet fuel and the closest WWII-era equivalent is kerosene, which would not have been available in sufficient quantites to keep her fueled. Spare parts? Not availabe ''at all''.

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** There's also the less obvious issue of fuel and spare parts. Something like ''JDS Mirai'' is powered by gas turbines. Those use jet fuel and the closest WWII-era equivalent is kerosene, which would not have been available in sufficient quantites to keep her fueled. Spare parts? Not availabe available ''at all''.



* ColonelBadass: Commander Hutton. While he's definitely ''not'' a [[OfficerAndAGentleman gentleman]], the flight groups under his command have never lost a man in their prior engagements. And then there's his SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome when he rams his plane into ''Mirai's'' bridge under a [[MoreDakka hail of autocannon fire]], and survives.

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* ColonelBadass: Commander Hutton. While he's definitely ''not'' a [[OfficerAndAGentleman gentleman]], the flight groups under his command have never lost a man in their prior engagements. And then there's his SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome when he rams his plane into ''Mirai's'' bridge under a [[MoreDakka hail of autocannon fire]], and survives.



* HistoricalVillainDowngrade: The MoralDilemma faced by the crew largely ignores the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties#Japanese_war_crimes five-to-twenty million people]] who died due to Japanese economic mismanagement or War Crimes and focuses instead upon Japan's two million military and one million civilian dead. This can be considered [[ValuesDissonance accurate]] in the sense of reflecting how a SDF crew, being Japanese (even in the modern-day), would (like most countries) have a historical view skewed towards the Japanese people's experiences and suffering during the war, giving less weight to the suffering they inflicted on others. The ''Mirai'''s crew feeling such a way with ''complete uniformity'' is more questionable.

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* HistoricalVillainDowngrade: The MoralDilemma faced by the crew largely ignores the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties#Japanese_war_crimes five-to-twenty million people]] who died due to Japanese economic mismanagement or War Crimes and focuses instead upon Japan's two million military and one million civilian dead. This can be considered [[ValuesDissonance accurate]] accurate in the sense of reflecting how a SDF crew, being Japanese (even in the modern-day), would (like most countries) have a historical view skewed towards the Japanese people's experiences and suffering during the war, giving less weight to the suffering they inflicted on others. The ''Mirai'''s crew feeling such a way with ''complete uniformity'' is more questionable.



* NoExportForYou: Only the first four volumes of the manga have been officially translated into English, and fan translations have been slow going. However, there is a complete official French translation available.
* NotSoDifferent: The time-displaced crew of the JMSDF [[MyCountryRightOrWrong do not want Japan to go through the same fate]] that it went through in their history, regardless of their differences with the contemporary Japanese in [[ValuesDissonance values]], politics, [[ValuesDissonance morality]], and the suffering of Japanese and non-Japanese in the war.

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* NoExportForYou: Only the first four volumes of the manga have been officially translated into English, and fan translations have been slow going. However, there is a complete official French translation available.
* NotSoDifferent: The time-displaced crew of the JMSDF [[MyCountryRightOrWrong do not want Japan to go through the same fate]] that it went through in their history, regardless of their differences with the contemporary Japanese in [[ValuesDissonance values]], politics, [[ValuesDissonance morality]], morality, and the suffering of Japanese and non-Japanese in the war.
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** Yonai points this out to the main characters, that to ensure a peaceful and prosperous Japan in the future, [[NecessaryFail nothing less that total defeat]] on the Japanese must be inflicted to shake them out of their warmongering mindset, and that any actions of ''Mirai'' that helps the Japanese, even if it's with the best of intentions, will harm in the long run.

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** Yonai points this out to the main characters, characters; that to ensure a peaceful and prosperous Japan in the future, [[NecessaryFail nothing less that than total defeat]] on the Japanese must be inflicted on the Japanese to shake them out of their warmongering mindset, and that any actions of ''Mirai'' that helps the Japanese, even if it's with the best of intentions, will cause harm in the long run.

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