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** Wario, even in his [[VideoGame/WarioLand own]] [[VideoGame/WarioWare series]]. He also sort of subverts this trope, as he's a brilliant problem-solver, businessman, and inventor. Of course, all of these things are usually done with sheer brute force, but it's still quite impressive.

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** Wario, even in his [[VideoGame/WarioLand own]] [[VideoGame/WarioWare series]]. He also sort of subverts this trope, as he's a brilliant problem-solver, businessman, and inventor. Of course, all of these things are usually done with sheer brute force, but it's still quite impressive.impressive and worth giving credit where credit is due.
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** Wario, even in his [[VideoGame/WarioLand own]] [[VideoGame/WarioWare series]]. He also sort of subverts this trope, as he's a brilliant problem-solver, businessman, and inventor. Of course, all of these things are usually done with sheer brute force.

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** Wario, even in his [[VideoGame/WarioLand own]] [[VideoGame/WarioWare series]]. He also sort of subverts this trope, as he's a brilliant problem-solver, businessman, and inventor. Of course, all of these things are usually done with sheer brute force.force, but it's still quite impressive.
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** Peter Griffin is a [[TooDumbToLive complete moron]] and also a FatBastard. For example, him trying to make an energy drink with kerosene (pictured above) landed him with renal failure.

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** Peter Griffin is a [[TooDumbToLive complete moron]] and also a FatBastard. For example, him trying to make an energy drink with kerosene in "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS9E8NewKidneyInTown New Kidney in Town]]" (pictured above) landed him with renal failure.
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* [[AvertedTrope Averted]] in ''Literature/{{Fat}}'', much of whose humour lies in the overweight protagonist's [[DeadpanSnarker dry lamentation]] of the inhibitions imposed by, and people's overreactions to, his weight.

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%%* Played straight in ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' with Mace Tyrell.
* In the fifth book of ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' this is invoked by [[spoiler: Wyman Manderly]] who [[ObfuscatingStupidity uses this misconception to his advantage]].

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%%* Played straight * ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'':
** Any noble
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Tyrell fits this trope perfectly, even his own mother. However, there are occasional hints that he may not be as stupid as he seems.
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In the fifth book of ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' book, this is invoked by [[spoiler: Wyman Manderly]] who [[ObfuscatingStupidity uses this misconception to his advantage]].

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* ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist''
** Gluttony is basically a pet ball of fat who consumes everything in his path. It takes Alphonse Elric about 30 seconds to convince Gluttony to lead his enemies right past all the defenses in the headquarters and right up to the BigBad. Alphonse and Edward's presence wasn't especially minded, since they're two of Father's candidates for "sacrifice", and needed to be kept alive; everyone ''else'', on the other hand...
** Averted with Breda, who graduated top of his class. On the other hand, he acts a lot less serious/intelligent than the rest of Roy's crew. Then again, he is the DeadpanSnarker...

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* ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist''
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''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'': Gluttony is basically a pet ball of fat who consumes everything in his path. It takes Alphonse Elric about 30 seconds to convince Gluttony to lead his enemies right past all the defenses in the headquarters and right up to the BigBad. Alphonse and Edward's presence wasn't especially minded, since they're two of Father's candidates for "sacrifice", and needed to be kept alive; everyone ''else'', on the other hand...
** Averted with Breda, who graduated top of his class. On the other hand, he acts a lot less serious/intelligent than the rest of Roy's crew. Then again, he is the DeadpanSnarker...
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* Averted with Dr. Tokita in ''Literature/{{Paprika}}''. He is one of the smartest psychiatrists in the Institute for Psychiatric Research.



* Invoked and then averted in ''Manga/{{Basilisk}}''. On the surface, Jousuke is this trope and then some more, but it's actually ObfuscatingStupidity: he ''pretends'' to be dumb, but when push comes to shove he turns out to be quite the LightningBruiser.



* Averted with Bouncing Boy/Chuck Taine from the ComicBook/LegionOfSuperHeroes- he has actually made a study of physics, angles, ect. to help him use his power to its fullest potential.
** Not to mention, in a game of snooker against Matter-Eater Lad, he hits three of the balls in the nets. [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome At the same time.]]



* Beautifully averted with Mr. Trout in ''WesternAnimation/TheBoxtrolls''. He seems to be the smart one of the trio, and his official bio states that he enjoys Shakespeare and French poetry.



* ''WesternAnimation/SausageParty'': The Druggie is [[TooDumbToLive stupid enough]] to [[spoiler:leave a metal axe on the top of the wall, [[OffWithHisHead which leads to his death]]]]. Frank even calls him "a stupid one".

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* ''WesternAnimation/SausageParty'': The Druggie is [[TooDumbToLive stupid enough]] to [[spoiler:leave a metal axe on the top of the wall, [[OffWithHisHead which leads to his death]]]].gets him killed]]]]. Frank even calls him "a stupid one".



* This trope is largely averted in the ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' books as the wizards are mostly very fat while being very clever (if not wise). On the other hand most of the more dynamic, forward looking wizards tend not to be fat such as Ponder Stibbons and (in a ''very'' different way) Ymper Trymon.
** Sergeant Colon is a straighter example, though he does have some HiddenDepths. Or to paraphrase his boss and best friend, Sam Vimes, Colon is a fat idiot, yes, but he isn't ''just'' a fat idiot.
*** Vetinari [[InvokedTrope invokes the trope]] when he takes Colon along with him in ''Literature/{{Jingo}}''.
-->'''Vetinari''': The entire success of this plan depends on you seeming to be a fat idiot!
-->'''Sgt. Colon''': I'm not too good at acting, sir.
-->'''Vetinari''': ''Good''.

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* This trope is largely averted in the ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' books as the wizards are mostly very fat while being very clever (if not wise). On the other hand most of the more dynamic, forward looking wizards tend not to be fat such as Ponder Stibbons and (in a ''very'' different way) Ymper Trymon.
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** Sergeant Colon is a straighter example, Colon, though he does have some HiddenDepths. Or to paraphrase his boss and best friend, Sam Vimes, Colon is a fat idiot, yes, but he isn't ''just'' a fat idiot.
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idiot. Vetinari [[InvokedTrope invokes the trope]] when he takes Colon along with him in ''Literature/{{Jingo}}''.
-->'''Vetinari''': --->'''Vetinari''': The entire success of this plan depends on you seeming to be a fat idiot!
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idiot!\\
'''Sgt.
Colon''': I'm not too good at acting, sir.
-->'''Vetinari''':
sir.\\
'''Vetinari''':
''Good''.



%%* Played straight in ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' with Mace Tyrell, but averted with Samwell Tarley.

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%%* Played straight in ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' with Mace Tyrell, but averted with Samwell Tarley.Tyrell.



* ''Massively'' averted by [[VillainousGlutton Baron Vladimir Harkonnen]] in Literature/{{Dune}}. He may be hugely obese, decadent and depraved, but he's also clever, cunning and very sneaky. It's just a pity (for him) that he's up against the [[MessianicArchetype Kwisatz Haderach]].



* Averted by Uncle Phil on ''Series/TheFreshPrinceOfBelAir'', particularly in the "Banks Shot" episode. The silly moment is when he eats a sandwich while playing pool to gain the money back. But then again if you're stuck in a game for hours and hours, who wouldn't get hungry, right? Ultimately, he's smart because his plan pays off and they win the money.



* Possibly averted with Gordon on ''Series/FreaksAndGeeks''. While we never really see him demonstrate intelligence, he is far and away the most thoughtful and insightful of the geeks.



* Averted with Marco in ''VisualNovel/DoubleHomework''. He is overweight and in summer school, but he’s there because he spent too little time studying, not because he’s stupid.



** Averted with Martin, probably the fattest and smartest kid in Bart's class, and the Comic Book Guy, who is among the fattest and smartest people in Springfield (although he's also a low-key FatBastard and high-key avatar of FanDumb).



* Averted with Bouncing Boy from the ''WesternAnimation/LegionOfSuperHeroes'', who actually has an admirable knowledge of both strategy and mechanics.



* Wimpy from ''WesternAnimation/{{Popeye}}''. Averted in the comics, where Wimpy was easily one of the smartest characters. However, his [[BigEater unsatisfiable appetite]], combined with his [[WithFriendsLikeThese tendency to stab his friends in the back]] frequently got him into trouble.
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* ''VideoGame/{{Mewgenics}}'': Christen a cat with the [[StoneWall Tank]] class and it will immediately gain a healthy dose of {{Kevlard}} to represent their high Endurance, but this comes at the cost of some Intelligence, restricting the amount of mana it'll regain at the end of each turn during combat.
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This trope is particularly popular in animation, owing to characters like [[WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons Homer Simpson]] and [[WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy Peter Griffin]].

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* Arnold of ''Fanfic/SoullessShell'', overlapping with FatBastard. He falls for Leif's ruse to get him to admit to being guilty of rape when he sentences him to death, then after breaking out of prison, [[TooDumbToLive plans on killing Leif in revenge]] before going off to rape a girl. Since Leif is a GodModeSue with a particular hatred of rapists, Arnold dies a fairly nasty death.

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* Arnold of ''Fanfic/SoullessShell'', ''Fanfic/SoullessShellRedwall'', overlapping with FatBastard. He falls for Leif's ruse to get him to admit to being guilty of rape when he sentences him to death, then after breaking out of prison, [[TooDumbToLive plans on killing Leif in revenge]] before going off to rape a girl. Since Leif is a GodModeSue with a particular hatred of rapists, Arnold dies a fairly nasty death.
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* Bob from ''The Twins'' serves as the fat DumbMuscle half of the FatAndSkinny BrainsAndBrawn duo. While both Bob and Buck have a lack of self awareness and can be fooled due to their limited AI, the spindly Buck speaks in a normal voice and will continue to remain in an area where he heard a noise for a longer period of time in case you are still around, whereas Bob speaks in a SimpletonVoice and will wander away much faster. Furthermore, of the two, Bob is the only one dumb enough to drink coffee that has been laced with rat poison, despite the fact that it visibly turns the coffee green.

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* Bob from ''The Twins'' ''VideoGame/TheTwins2020'' serves as the fat DumbMuscle half of the FatAndSkinny BrainsAndBrawn duo. While both Bob and Buck have a lack of self awareness self-awareness and can be fooled due to their limited AI, the spindly Buck speaks in a normal voice and will continue to remain in an area where he heard a noise for a longer period of time in case you are still around, whereas Bob speaks in a SimpletonVoice and will wander away much faster. Furthermore, of the two, Bob is the only one dumb enough to drink coffee that has been laced with rat poison, despite the fact that it visibly turns the coffee green.
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* Subverted with Yudai in ''VisualNovel/RagingLoop''. He initially registers this way, being an extremely large man who speaks few words before [[spoiler:dying immediately in the first two iterations of the Feast of the Yomi-Purge]], but when given the chance to properly participate, he quickly proves himself to be both extremely intelligent and highly charismatic with only [[spoiler:Haruaki's knowledge of other timelines and ability to repeat his mistakes]] being enough to compete with him.

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* Raj from Season 8 of ''Series/HellsKitchen'', a strong contender for the single most clueless contestent ever to appear on the show. Rather than spoil the full story of his incompetence, let's simply put it this way: he was kicked out of the competition very early on after an elimination night where his team ''won''. His teammates then ''thanked Gordon'' for getting rid of him, saying it was a better reward than any of the red team getting eliminated.

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* A few contestants on ''Series/HellsKitchen'' are both chubby and stupid.
** In addition to being a FatBastard, Jason Underwood from Season 4 has also been shown to be not smart either. This comes to a head during the soufflé incident in the third service, where he couldn't make any correctly since they ended up sticking to the cups, and mentioned to Ramsay that he was going to try brushing sugar and cocoa around the rim to prevent this (for those of you that don't know, this is the first thing you're supposed to do when cooking a soufflé). That plus the fact that he pretty much threw in the towel when he didn't know the desserts (the menu also stumped Petrozza in the previous service, but he bounced back) and had to be talked into staying by Louross led to Ramsay eliminating him. He was the second of three contestants to be eliminated while working the dessert station.
** Connie "Lovely" Jackson from Season 6 is definitely this, being not particularly bright. This was first demonstrated when she cooked fondants before they even opened. And they weren't even properly made.
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Raj from Season 8 of ''Series/HellsKitchen'', definitely takes the cake as a strong contender for the single most clueless contestent ever to appear on the show. Rather than spoil the full story of his incompetence, let's simply put it this way: he was kicked out of the competition very early on after an elimination night where his team ''won''. His teammates then ''thanked Gordon'' for getting rid of him, saying it was a better reward than any of the red team getting eliminated.eliminated.
** Antonio Ruiz from Season 20 displayed shades of this prior to being switched to the red team (where he did improve). He was a main participant of "chickengate" in Episode 3 and believed his underseasoned irregular ceviche was one of the best dishes in the alcohol challenge, along with Matthew's raw chicken. He would also say things to try and be more impressive like he only sleeps for a few hours without realizing how dumb that makes him sound.
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* ''WesternAnimation/TheBatman'' gives us Police Chief Angel Rojas, a boorish, PointyHairedBoss who somehow made it to the second-in-command of the GCPD, given his SkewedPriorities by focusing on Batman instead the super villains tormenting Gotham and his BadBoss tendencies, which caused an officer under his command to snap and try to kill him -- and yet he still pull it with another officer. Even when the Riddler gave him simple riddles, he couldn't figure them out.

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheBatman'' gives us Police Chief Angel Rojas, a boorish, PointyHairedBoss who somehow made it to the second-in-command of the GCPD, given his SkewedPriorities by focusing on Batman instead the super villains tormenting Gotham and his BadBoss tendencies, which caused an officer under his command to snap and try to kill him -- and yet he still pull pulled it with another officer. Even when the Riddler gave him simple riddles, he couldn't figure them out.

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* Wario in the ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'' series as well as his [[VideoGame/WarioLand own]] [[VideoGame/WarioWare series]]. He also sort of subverts this trope, as he's a brilliant problem-solver, businessman, and inventor. Of course, all of these things are usually done with sheer brute force.

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* Wario ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'':
** Wario, even
in the ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'' series as well as his [[VideoGame/WarioLand own]] [[VideoGame/WarioWare series]]. He also sort of subverts this trope, as he's a brilliant problem-solver, businessman, and inventor. Of course, all of these things are usually done with sheer brute force.
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* Dudley and Vernon Dursley in ''Literature/HarryPotter''. The former can't add 37 + 2 without help, gets very bad grades in school, is the leader of his gang because he is "the biggest and most stupid" and physically "become wider than he was tall". His father spends a lot of his screentime antagonizing his magical nephew even when he has seen the kind of things Harry is able to do when he loses his control over his magic ([[BewareTheNiceOnes or over his temper]]). His attitude with other (powerful) wizards is not better. Another examples are Vincent Crabbe and Gregory Goyle, Malfoy's brutish and dumb minions.

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* Dudley and Vernon Dursley in ''Literature/HarryPotter''. The former can't add 37 + 2 without help, gets very bad grades in school, is the leader of his gang because he is "the biggest and most stupid" and physically managed to "become wider than he was tall".tall" in the [[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheGobletOfFire fourth book]]. His father spends a lot of his screentime antagonizing his magical nephew even when he has seen the kind of things Harry is able to do when he loses his control over his magic ([[BewareTheNiceOnes or over his temper]]). His attitude with other (powerful) wizards is not better. Another examples are Vincent Crabbe and Gregory Goyle, Malfoy's brutish and dumb minions.
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* ''Film/EdWood'': Although the real-life Tor Johnson may not have been similar to the lumbering mooks he played in Wood's movies, this film portrays him as particularly dimwitted. (In fact, Johnson was already an accomplished bit actor, and had lost his Swedish accent long ago).
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* ''WesternAnimation/CloneHigh'': Genghis Khan is about the size and shape of a pregnant manatee, and he's almost as intelligent as one, too. He often gets the cast into trouble, like stopping Abe and Gandhi from buying beer.
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* The Druggie from ''WesternAnimation/SausageParty'' is [[TooDumbToLive stupid enough]] to [[spoiler:leave a metal axe on the top of the wall [[OffWithHisHead which leads to his death]]]]. Frank even calls him "a stupid one".

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* ''WesternAnimation/SausageParty'': The Druggie from ''WesternAnimation/SausageParty'' is [[TooDumbToLive stupid enough]] to [[spoiler:leave a metal axe on the top of the wall wall, [[OffWithHisHead which leads to his death]]]]. Frank even calls him "a stupid one".
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* Dr. Eggman from ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog'' is an inversion. He has an IQ of 300 and is a MadScientist.

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* Dr. Eggman from ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog'' ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'' is an inversion. He has an IQ of 300 and is a MadScientist.
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** Peter Griffin is a [[TooDumbToLive complete moron]] and also a FatBastard. For example, him trying to make an energy drink with kerosene landed him with renal failure.

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** Peter Griffin is a [[TooDumbToLive complete moron]] and also a FatBastard. For example, him trying to make an energy drink with kerosene (pictured above) landed him with renal failure.

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