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* Siegfried from Music/RichardWagner's ''Ring'' cycle is told that he has to learn fear and is embarassed that he appears too stupid to learn it.
-->'''Creator/AnnaRussell:''' "... he’s very young, and he’s very handsome, and he’s very strong, and he’s very brave, and he’s very stupid…. He’s a regular Little Abner type."
** It seems to be an hereditary trait on the male side, as Siegfried's father Siegmund in ''Die Walküre'' also is not the sharpest knife in the drawer (certainly compared to his sister Sieglinde who loses no time to work out that they are siblings). Siegmund's father Wotan also shows a spectacular lack of forward planning in ''Das Rheingold'' ("Okay, so I promised Freya to Fasolt and Fafner as price for building Walhall, which means that deprived of her apples of youth we gods will be screwed, but I'm ''sure'' Loge will think up something to get us out of this fix in time.")
* The title character in Wagner's ''Parsifal'' (Percival) is a "pure fool" who can only be enlightened by understanding others' suffering.
-->'''Creator/AnnaRussell:''' "... he’s very young, and he’s very handsome, and he’s very strong, and he’s very brave, and he’s very stupid…. He’s a regular Little Abner type."
** It seems to be an hereditary trait on the male side, as Siegfried's father Siegmund in ''Die Walküre'' also is not the sharpest knife in the drawer (certainly compared to his sister Sieglinde who loses no time to work out that they are siblings). Siegmund's father Wotan also shows a spectacular lack of forward planning in ''Das Rheingold'' ("Okay, so I promised Freya to Fasolt and Fafner as price for building Walhall, which means that deprived of her apples of youth we gods will be screwed, but I'm ''sure'' Loge will think up something to get us out of this fix in time.")
* The title character in Wagner's ''Parsifal'' (Percival) is a "pure fool" who can only be enlightened by understanding others' suffering.
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-->'''Creator/AnnaRussell:''' "... he’s very young, and he’s very handsome, and he’s very strong, and he’s very brave, and he’s very stupid…. He’s a regular Little Abner type."
** It seems to be an hereditary trait on the male side, as Siegfried's father Siegmund in ''Die Walküre'' also is not the sharpest knife
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* [[TheIngenue Hope]] [[ParodySue Cladwell]] and, to a lesser extent, [[TheHero Bobby Strong]] in ''Theatre/{{Urinetown}}''. The problem is that they're hopelessly [[WideEyedIdealist naive]] in a [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVsCynicism deeply cynical]] musical.
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* [[TheIngenue Hope]] [[ParodySue Cladwell]] and, to a lesser extent, [[TheHero Bobby Strong]] in ''Theatre/{{Urinetown}}''. The problem title character in Wagner's ''Parsifal'' (Percival) is that they're hopelessly [[WideEyedIdealist naive]] in a [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVsCynicism deeply cynical]] musical."pure fool" who can only be enlightened by understanding others' suffering.
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* Siegfried from Music/RichardWagner's ''Ring'' cycle is told that he has to learn fear and is embarassed that he appears too stupid to learn it.
-->'''Creator/AnnaRussell:''' "... he’s very young, and he’s very handsome, and he’s very strong, and he’s very brave, and he’s very stupid…. He’s a regular Little Abner type."
** It seems to be an hereditary trait on the male side, as Siegfried's father Siegmund in ''Die Walküre'' also is not the sharpest knife in the drawer (certainly compared to his sister Sieglinde who loses no time to work out that they are siblings). Siegmund's father Wotan also shows a spectacular lack of forward planning in ''Das Rheingold'' ("Okay, so I promised Freya to Fasolt and Fafner as price for building Walhall, which means that deprived of her apples of youth we gods will be screwed, but I'm ''sure'' Loge will think up something to get us out of this fix in time.")
* [[TheIngenue Hope]] [[ParodySue Cladwell]] and, to a lesser extent, [[TheHero Bobby Strong]] in ''Theatre/{{Urinetown}}''. The problem is that they're hopelessly [[WideEyedIdealist naive]] in a [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVsCynicism deeply cynical]] musical.
-->'''Creator/AnnaRussell:''' "... he’s very young, and he’s very handsome, and he’s very strong, and he’s very brave, and he’s very stupid…. He’s a regular Little Abner type."
** It seems to be an hereditary trait on the male side, as Siegfried's father Siegmund in ''Die Walküre'' also is not the sharpest knife in the drawer (certainly compared to his sister Sieglinde who loses no time to work out that they are siblings). Siegmund's father Wotan also shows a spectacular lack of forward planning in ''Das Rheingold'' ("Okay, so I promised Freya to Fasolt and Fafner as price for building Walhall, which means that deprived of her apples of youth we gods will be screwed, but I'm ''sure'' Loge will think up something to get us out of this fix in time.")
* [[TheIngenue Hope]] [[ParodySue Cladwell]] and, to a lesser extent, [[TheHero Bobby Strong]] in ''Theatre/{{Urinetown}}''. The problem is that they're hopelessly [[WideEyedIdealist naive]] in a [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVsCynicism deeply cynical]] musical.
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* ''CyranoDeBergerac'': The ideal of a Gascon Cadet: You can do anything stupid as long as is heroic enough. As one cadet declares at Act IV Scene III:
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* ''CyranoDeBergerac'': ''Theatre/CyranoDeBergerac'': The ideal of a Gascon Cadet: You can do anything stupid as long as is heroic enough. As one cadet declares at Act IV Scene III:
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* [[TheIngenue Hope]] [[ParodySue Cladwell]] and, to a lesser extent, [[TheHero Bobby Strong]] in ''{{Urinetown}}''. The problem is that they're hopelessly [[WideEyedIdealist naive]] in a [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVsCynicism deeply cynical]] musical.
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* [[TheIngenue Hope]] [[ParodySue Cladwell]] and, to a lesser extent, [[TheHero Bobby Strong]] in ''{{Urinetown}}''.''Theatre/{{Urinetown}}''. The problem is that they're hopelessly [[WideEyedIdealist naive]] in a [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVsCynicism deeply cynical]] musical.
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** It seems to be an hereditary trait on the male side, as Siegfried's father Siegmund in ''Die Walküre'' also is not the sharpest knife in the drawer (certainly compared to his sister Sieglinde who loses no time to work out that they are siblings). Siegmund's father Wotan also shows a spectacular lack of forward planning in ''Das Rheingold'' ("Okay, so I promised Freya to Fasolt and Fafner as price for building Walhall, which means that deprived of her apples of youth we gods will be screwed, but I'm ''sure'' Loge will think up something to get us out of this fix in time.")
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* In ''Theatre/PokemonLive'', Ash comes across as this since he is solely focused on obtaining the Diamond Badge, oblivious to Misty's feelings, and seemingly obsessed with Pokémon. However, in "I've Got A Secret", Ash sings about how he must move on from Pikachu's "departure" to follow his dream and become an adult. He gets over his idiocy by the end of the musical.
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* OlderThanRadio: Siegfried from Creator/RichardWagner's ''Ring'' cycle is told that he has to learn fear and is embarassed that he appears too stupid to learn it.
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* Siegfried from Creator/RichardWagner's ''Ring'' cycle is told that he has to learn fear and is embarassed that he appears too stupid to learn it, which makes this OlderThanRadio.
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* OlderThanRadio: Siegfried from Creator/RichardWagner's ''Ring'' cycle is told that he has to learn fear and is embarassed that he appears too stupid to learn it, which makes this OlderThanRadio.it.
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* CyranoDeBergerac: The ideal of a Gascon Cadet: You can do anything stupid as long as is heroic enough. As one cadet declares at Act IV Scene III:
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* CyranoDeBergerac: ''CyranoDeBergerac'': The ideal of a Gascon Cadet: You can do anything stupid as long as is heroic enough. As one cadet declares at Act IV Scene III:
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* Siegfried from Creator/RichardWagner's ''Ring'' cycle is told that he has to learn fear and is embarassed that he appears too stupid to learn it, which makes this OlderThanRadio.
-->'''AnnaRussell:''' "... he’s very young, and he’s very handsome, and he’s very strong, and he’s very brave, and he’s very stupid…. He’s a regular Little Abner type."
* The title character in Wagner's ''Parsifal'' (Percival) is a "pure fool" who can only be enlightened by understanding others' suffering.
* CyranoDeBergerac: The ideal of a Gascon Cadet: You can do anything stupid as long as is heroic enough. As one cadet declares at Act IV Scene III:
--> '''The First Cadet:''' ... Gascons should ever be crack-brained...
--> Naught more dangerous than a rational Gascon.
* [[TheIngenue Hope]] [[ParodySue Cladwell]] and, to a lesser extent, [[TheHero Bobby Strong]] in ''{{Urinetown}}''. The problem is that they're hopelessly [[WideEyedIdealist naive]] in a [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVsCynicism deeply cynical]] musical.
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-->'''AnnaRussell:''' "... he’s very young, and he’s very handsome, and he’s very strong, and he’s very brave, and he’s very stupid…. He’s a regular Little Abner type."
* The title character in Wagner's ''Parsifal'' (Percival) is a "pure fool" who can only be enlightened by understanding others' suffering.
* CyranoDeBergerac: The ideal of a Gascon Cadet: You can do anything stupid as long as is heroic enough. As one cadet declares at Act IV Scene III:
--> '''The First Cadet:''' ... Gascons should ever be crack-brained...
--> Naught more dangerous than a rational Gascon.
* [[TheIngenue Hope]] [[ParodySue Cladwell]] and, to a lesser extent, [[TheHero Bobby Strong]] in ''{{Urinetown}}''. The problem is that they're hopelessly [[WideEyedIdealist naive]] in a [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVsCynicism deeply cynical]] musical.
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