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** ''X1'' can easily still be in continuity. Magneto clearly hasn't given up his anti-human bent, and just because mutants may have more public sympathy in the new timeline, doesn't mean that there still won't be people actively prejudiced against them (remember just how long it took the Civil Rights movement to gain success in real life following the Civil War and Reconstruction) and there's 30 years in which something can happen to still lead to the drafting of the Mutant Registration Act, which was the catalyst of the original film's plot. It may not play out the exact same way, but the important background is still potentially there. As for ''X2'', Stryker is still out there, and still has a son who will be revealed to be a mutant and who Charles won't be able to help (he doesn't have Future!Logan to warn him about Jason Stryker in advance; all he had was ''Logan's'' memories of these events, and Logan didn't know about Jason). There's nothing to suggest that Stryker lost his position alongside Trask, and if Past!Logan doesn't have Future!Logan's memories (as was implied by the "blip" the first time he saw Stryker), there's no one to warn ''him'' about Weapon X. And as for the Phoenix, all we need is ''some'' minor change in events that leads to Jean surviving Alkali Lake, in which case she'll have the Professor available to help her control it (also: Xavier got a glimpse of Phoenix!Jean from Logan's memories, so this time around he ''may'' be prepared for its emergence after Liberty Island. If Jean is in full control of the Phoenix during ''X2'', she may stop both missiles and prevent the damage to the Blackbird that led to her death in the original timeline). So yes, there's actually quite a few ways that at least the first two films can still happen in BroadStrokes, but some minor change affects the final outcome, all ForWantOfANail.

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** ''X1'' can easily still be in continuity. Magneto clearly hasn't given up his anti-human bent, and just because mutants may have more public sympathy in the new timeline, doesn't mean that there still won't be people actively prejudiced against them (remember just how long it took the Civil Rights movement to gain success in real life following the Civil War and Reconstruction) and there's 30 years in which something can happen to still lead to the drafting of the Mutant Registration Act, which was the catalyst of the original film's plot. It may not play out the exact same way, but the important background is still potentially there. As for ''X2'', Stryker is still out there, and still has a son who will be revealed to be a mutant and who Charles won't be able to help (he doesn't have Future!Logan to warn him about Jason Stryker in advance; all he had was ''Logan's'' memories of these events, and Logan didn't know about Jason). There's nothing to suggest that Stryker lost his position alongside Trask, and if Past!Logan doesn't have Future!Logan's memories (as was implied by the "blip" the first time he saw Stryker), there's no one to warn ''him'' about Weapon X. And as for the Phoenix, all we need is ''some'' minor change in events that leads to Jean surviving Alkali Lake, in which case she'll have the Professor available to help her control it (also: Xavier got a glimpse of Phoenix!Jean from Logan's memories, so this time around he ''may'' be prepared for its emergence after Liberty Island. If Jean is in full control of the Phoenix during ''X2'', she may stop both missiles and prevent the damage to the Blackbird that led to her death in the original timeline). So yes, there's actually quite a few ways that at least the first two films can still happen in BroadStrokes, but some minor change affects the final outcome, all ForWantOfANail.for-want-of-a-nail.
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* During the opening fight scene, Kitty and Bishop have to reach a safe room in order to change the past, so they run off while the other X-Men stay behind to distract the Sentinels. Though the sequence fulfills its purpose of introducing each character and showcasing their powers, it makes little sense from a logical perspective, as Blink could have instantly teleported the two heroes to the safe room, enabling them to enact their plan much more quickly.
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* How is Quicksilver able to move bullets around with his bare hands? His power is super speed, not stopping time altogether. The bullets should have the same kinetic energy that they always have and bore through his hands just like they would in normal speed, only subjectively slower. It would have made more sense for him to block them with the various kitchen utensils laying around, rather than rearranging them like he was in ''TheMatrix''.

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* How is Quicksilver able to move bullets around with his bare hands? His power is super speed, not stopping time altogether. The bullets should have the same kinetic energy that they always have and bore through his hands just like they would in normal speed, only subjectively slower. It would have made more sense for him to block them with the various kitchen utensils laying around, rather than rearranging them like he was in ''TheMatrix''.''The Matrix''.
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** I think the idea is that Magneto was surprised by the shooting and didn't react quick enough to stop the bullet from hitting JFK. He was tugging at the bullet during the instant it passed through JFK's body, which caused the bullet to curve. And what do you mean there wouldn't be enough evidence? Obviously they did an autopsy on JFK and they noticed that the bullet must have traveled along a curved path, because organs were damaged along that path. I think the idea is that most people thought this was a random oddity, but Xavier was smart enough to realize that Magneto must have been tugging on the bullet. He assumed that Magneto was trying to guide the bullet to do the most possible damage, but actually Magneto was trying to make the bullet miss JFK entirely but his reaction time was too slow.
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[[folder: Forgot to mumble?]]
* When Quicksilver ducts tapes that Pentagon guard in the elevator to sneak into the building, the guard can't scream because of his tape gag, but why doesn't he try? If he mumbled, chances are that the other guards would have heard him and be alerted that something was wrong.
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** I don't know that there's any evidence that ''any'' of the original trilogy are in continuity any more. Yes, the X-Men still end up existing, but that's because Professor X has Cerebro and could still have eventually found them all, albeit in a totally different way than we've seen. Rogue has her SkunkStripe, but that could easily have been due to the fact that she's twenty years older in that scene than she was in the original film, and her hair was always going to turn that color, she just wasn't prematurely aged by Magneto's machine. My key evidence for the fact that none of the films happened is the fact that [[spoiler: Jean is alive.]] Even if ''The Last Stand'' never occurred, she would still have turned into the Phoenix and had to be killed. But, it IS implied she became the Phoenix due to her exposure to that machine in the first film: therefore, if she didn't undergo her change, that means she didn't get exposed to the machine, and probably means the events at the dam in ''X2'' didn't happen either. There's other things that must have changed, like the situation with Stryker, and the fact that Mystique may not want to work with Magneto like she did in the first trilogy after he tried to kill her, but I think mainly Jean is our strongest evidence that the timeline has been completely rewritten.

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** I don't know that there's any evidence that ''any'' of the original trilogy are in continuity any more. Yes, the X-Men still end up existing, but that's because Professor X has Cerebro and could still have eventually found them all, albeit in a totally different way than we've seen. Rogue has her SkunkStripe, skunk stripe, but that could easily have been due to the fact that she's twenty years older in that scene than she was in the original film, and her hair was always going to turn that color, she just wasn't prematurely aged by Magneto's machine. My key evidence for the fact that none of the films happened is the fact that [[spoiler: Jean is alive.]] Even if ''The Last Stand'' never occurred, she would still have turned into the Phoenix and had to be killed. But, it IS implied she became the Phoenix due to her exposure to that machine in the first film: therefore, if she didn't undergo her change, that means she didn't get exposed to the machine, and probably means the events at the dam in ''X2'' didn't happen either. There's other things that must have changed, like the situation with Stryker, and the fact that Mystique may not want to work with Magneto like she did in the first trilogy after he tried to kill her, but I think mainly Jean is our strongest evidence that the timeline has been completely rewritten.
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* At the end of ''Days of Future Past'', we know that ''Film/XMenTheLastStand'' never happens, which also means neither does ''Film/TheWolverine'', as it was directly driven by the events of ''X3''. Also, Jean Grey is alive and well, which causes problems with the ending of ''Film/X2XMenUnited''. On the other hand, Rogue is still sporting her SkunkStripe, which was caused by Magneto's machine in the [[Film/XMen1 original film]]. Not to mention Rogue is at the school at all, as is Wolverine. So that begs the question: What parts of the original trilogy's continuity are ''still'' in continuity? Did the events of ''X-Men'' and ''X2'' still happen, only in BroadStrokes with a few tweaks such as Jean not dying saving the others in ''X2''? Or is there some other explanation for details like Rogue's hair and both her and Logan still being X-Men? Or should it just be chalked up to the MST3KMantra?

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* At the end of ''Days of Future Past'', we know that ''Film/XMenTheLastStand'' never happens, which also means neither does ''Film/TheWolverine'', as it was directly driven by the events of ''X3''. Also, Jean Grey is alive and well, which causes problems with the ending of ''Film/X2XMenUnited''. On the other hand, Rogue is still sporting her SkunkStripe, skunk stripe, which was caused by Magneto's machine in the [[Film/XMen1 original film]]. Not to mention Rogue is at the school at all, as is Wolverine. So that begs the question: What parts of the original trilogy's continuity are ''still'' in continuity? Did the events of ''X-Men'' and ''X2'' still happen, only in BroadStrokes with a few tweaks such as Jean not dying saving the others in ''X2''? Or is there some other explanation for details like Rogue's hair and both her and Logan still being X-Men? Or should it just be chalked up to the MST3KMantra?
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** I figure it was an alternate timeline, with the best possible outcome being Raven never shot Trask, Logan is the "anchor" to that timeline, it had to be solidified when Logan "snapped back" essentiall, he isn't just pulling himself back, but that whole timeline, snapping back before the crux point would've changed nothing.
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[[folder: Riptide's fate]]
* This may be less of a headscratcher and more straightforward FridgeLogic as the answer to the initial question is easy to guess, but Riptide is not seen or even mentioned in this film or any others after ''First Class''. The most logical explanation to his absence is the same reason Angel, Azazel, Emma, and Banshee are absent, as otherwise it is likely that he would try to avenge Azazel and his other fallen comrades alongside Mystique, where she and Magneto are the sole survivors of the Brotherhood, and the only ones to appear in the original trilogy. But this also raises the question as to why Magneto does not mention him alongside the others on the plane.
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*** It is precisely for killing Azazel, Emma, Angel, and presumably Riptide that Mystique seeks revenge on Trask (aside from her reaction to the autopsies, she says she "saw too many friends die" and "only wants the man who murdered them"), and had they died nine years before Trask started experimenting on mutants, their bodies would have decayed to bones or dust by now.

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