History Headscratchers / TheWarAgainstTheChtorr

*** The analysis about how effective chemical weapons were in UsefulNotes/WorldWarI is false; there was a reason why for years afterwards chemical warfare had the sort of stigma we now attach to nuclear warfare and would keep it.. [[UsefulNotes/AtomicBombingsOfHiroshimaAndNagasaki more or less until we started using nuclear warfare.]] The main reason why it wasn't used afterwards was because it was a war crime even before UsefulNotes/WorldWarI and there was the pending risk somebody using it would be tried and hung (as the Japanese had happen to them), and it was nasty enough to trigger a case of EvenEvilHasStandards in *Hitler.* The main reason why it wasn't very decisive in UsefulNotes/WorldWarI was because- frankly- of the numbers of people that could be mobilized and how people adapted to it (with things like gas masks). That said, the rest of your points are valid; chemical warfare is nasty but the Chtorr are nastier and extremely difficult to kill. And people still use it anyway because they have no better choices.

*** The analysis about how effective chemical weapons were in UsefulNotes/WorldWarI is false; there was a reason why for years afterwards chemical warfare had the sort of stigma we now attach to nuclear warfare and would keep it.. [[AtomicBombingsOfHiroshimaAndNagasaki more or less until we started using nuclear warfare.]] The main reason why it wasn't used afterwards was because it was a war crime even before UsefulNotes/WorldWarI and there was the pending risk somebody using it would be tried and hung (as the Japanese had happen to them), and it was nasty enough to trigger a case of EvenEvilHasStandards in *Hitler.* The main reason why it wasn't very decisive in UsefulNotes/WorldWarI was because- frankly- of the numbers of people that could be mobilized and how people adapted to it (with things like gas masks). That said, the rest of your points are valid; chemical warfare is nasty but the Chtorr are nastier and extremely difficult to kill. And people still use it anyway because they have no better choices.

*** The analysis about how effective chemical weapons were in UsefulNotes/WorldWarI is false; there was a reason why for years afterwards chemical warfare had the sort of stigma we now attach to nuclear warfare and would keep it.. [[AtomicBombingsOfHiroshimaAndNagasaki more or less until we started using nuclear warfare.]] The main reason why it wasn't used afterwards was because it was a war crime even before UsefulNotes/WorldWarI and there was the pending risk somebody using it would be tried and hung (as the Japanese had happen to them), and it was nasty enough to trigger a case of EvenEvilHasStandards in *Hitler.* The main reason why it wasn't very decisive in UsefulNotes/WorldWarI was because- frankly- of the numbers of people that could be mobilized and how people adapted to it (with things like gas masks). That said, the rest of your points are valid; chemical warfare is nasty but the Chtorr are nastier and extremely difficult to kill. And people still use it anyway because they have no better choices.

* One thing that I cannot find in the books, or the {{GURPS}} version, is any mention ''at all'' of the use of poison gas. Since poison gas was used extensively in UsefulNotes/WorldWarI and afterward, (but not in UsefulNotes/WorldWarII for various reasons), it's not as though the technology to use it doesn't exist. A Chtorran "mandala" (settlement) or "city" would probably go down very quickly to, e.g. an attack using chlorine, phosgene or mustard gas.

* One thing that I cannot find in the books, or the {{GURPS}} version, is any mention ''at all'' of the use of poison gas. Since poison gas was used extensively in WorldWarI and afterward, (but not in WorldWarII for various reasons), it's not as though the technology to use it doesn't exist. A Chtorran "mandala" (settlement) or "city" would probably go down very quickly to, e.g. an attack using chlorine, phosgene or mustard gas.
** It's not mentioned by name, but a repeated statement is; "Anything that can kill Chtorran life is even more lethal to terrestrial life".. There's a Chtorran equivalent of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_tide Red tide]] that can only be killed by ''pouring oil on it'' and '''setting it on fire'''. The US drops ''nuclear weapons'' - '''dozens of them''' - on the mega-nests in the Rocky Mountains... '''''and in six months the nests completely rebuilt themselves!''''' WMDs tend not to be used except in situations of complete and total desperation - to ''buy time'' - because the only sure result of a WMD strike is that terrestrial life will be annihilated, and thus be unable to offer even minor resistance to Chtorran infestation. Use anything of the sort, and things will be exponentially worse than if they were used at all.

** The main reason chemical weapons weren't used after WorldWarI is that they are simply ''not very effective''. And while Chtorrans don't wear gas masks, they, as mentioned above, are very resistant to just about every form of harm. In addition, to truly combat Chtorran life you need to completely wipe out the entire ecosystem, not to simply kill large animals. There are theoretical ideas about chemical weapons this lethal, but those will also effectively make the whole region uninhabitable for long periods of time - that's why those ideas weren't pursued IRL. Even chemicals weapons good enough to reliably kill just ''humans'' in relatively small concentrations, like nerve agents, are often extremely persistent and make the terrain dangerous to humans for long periods of time. Considering how widespread the infestation is, mass use of such poisons risks too much collateral damage to the Earth's native ecosystem.
*** The analysis about how effective chemical weapons were in WorldWarI is false; there was a reason why for years afterwards chemical warfare had the sort of stigma we now attach to nuclear warfare and would keep it.. [[AtomicBombingsOfHiroshimaAndNagasaki more or less until we started using nuclear warfare.]] The main reason why it wasn't used afterwards was because it was a war crime even before WorldWarOne and there was the pending risk somebody using it would be tried and hung (as the Japanese had happen to them), and it was nasty enough to trigger a case of EvenEvilHasStandards in *Hitler.* The main reason why it wasn't very decisive in WorldWarOne was because- frankly- of the numbers of people that could be mobilized and how people adapted to it (with things like gas masks). That said, the rest of your points are valid; chemical warfare is nasty but the Chtorr are nastier and extremely difficult to kill. And people still use it anyway because they have no better choices.

*** The analysis about how effective chemical weapons were in WorldWarI is false; there was a reason why for years afterwards chemical warfare had the sort of stigma we now attach to nuclear warfare and would keep it.. [AtomicBombingsOfHiroshimaAndNagasaki more or less until we started using nuclear warfare.]] The main reason why it wasn't used afterwards was because it was a war crime even before WorldWarOne and there was the pending risk somebody using it would be tried and hung (as the Japanese had happen to them), and it was nasty enough to trigger a case of EvenEvilHasStandards in *Hitler.* The main reason why it wasn't very decisive in WorldWarOne was because- frankly- of the numbers of people that could be mobilized and how people adapted to it (with things like gas masks). That said, the rest of your points are valid; chemical warfare is nasty but the Chtorr are nastier and extremely difficult to kill.

** The main reason chemical weapons weren't used after WorldWarI is that they are simply ''not very effective''. And while Chtorrans don't wear gas masks, they, as mentioned above, are very resistant to just about every form of harm. In addition, to truly combat Chtorran life you need to completely wipe out the entire ecosystem, not to simply kill large animals. There are theoretical ideas about chemical weapons this lethal, but those will also effectively make the whole region uninhabitable for long periods of time - that's why those ideas weren't pursued IRL. Even chemicals weapons good enough to reliably kill just ''humans'' in relatively small concentrations, like nerve agents, are often extremely persistent and make the terrain dangerous to humans for long periods of time. Considering how widespread the infestation is, mass use of such poisons risks too much collateral damage to the Earth's native ecosystem.

** The main reason chemical weapons weren't used after WorldWarI is that they are simply ''not very effective''. And while Chtorrans don't wear gas masks, they, as mentioned above, are very resistant to just about every form of harm. In addition, to truly combat Chtorran life you need to completely wipe out the entire ecosystem, not to simply kill large animals. There are theoretical ideas about chemical weapons this lethal, but those will also effectively make the whole region uninhabitable for long periods of time - that's why those ideas weren't pursued IRL. Even chemicals weapons good enough to reliably kill just ''humans'' in relatively small concentrations, like nerve agents, are often extremely peristent and make the terrain dangerous to humans for long periods of time. Considering how widespread the infestation is, mass use of such poisons risks too much collateral damage to the Earth's native ecosystem.

** The main reason chemical weapons weren't used after WorldWarI is that they are simply ''not a very effective weapon''. And while Chtorrans don't wear gas masks, they, as mentioned above, are very resistant to just about every form of harm. In addition, to truly combat Chtorran life you need to completely wipe out the entire ecosystem, not to simply kill large animals. There are theoretical ideas about chemical weapons this lethal, but those will also effectively make the whole region uninhabitable for long periods of time - that's why those ideas weren't pursued IRL. Considering how widespread the infestation is, mass use of such poisons risks too much collateral damage to the Earth's native ecosystem.

*** Oh, and nerve gas is actually mentioned in Chapter 34 of ''A Rage For Revenge'' - added to "worm charms" given to ''kids'' in the hope that if the kid is eaten, the worm will die in the process. It's actually a half-assed attempt at '''euthanasia''' for the '''kid''' - nerve gas is no more dangerous to a worm than low-grade '''''food poisoning''''' is to humans!

** It's not mentioned by name, but a repeated statement is; "Anything that can kill Chtorran life is even more lethal to terrestrial life". There's a Chtorran equivalent of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_tide Red tide]] that can only be killed by ''pouring oil on it'' and '''setting it on fire'''. The US drops ''nuclear weapons'' - '''dozens of them''' - on the mega-nests in the Rocky Mountains... '''''and in six months the nests completely rebuilt themselves!'''''

** It's not mentioned by name, but a repeated statement is; "Anything that can kill Chtorran life is even more lethal to terrestrial life". There's a Chtorran equivalent of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_tide Red tide]] that can only be killed by ''pouring oil on it'' and '''setting it on fire'''. The US drops ''nuclear weapons'' - '''dozens of them''' - on the mega-nests in the Rocky Mountains... '''''and the nests have completely rebuilt themselves within the year!'''''

* One thing that I cannot find in the books, or the {{GURPS}} version, is any mention ''at all'' of the use of poison gas. Since poison gas was used extensively in WorldWarI and afterward, (but not in WorldWarII for various reasons), it's not as though the technology to use it doesn't exist. A Chtorran "mandala" (settlement) or "city" would probably go down very quickly to, e.g. an attack using chlorine, phosgene or mustard gas.

* One thing that ThisTroper cannot find in the books, or the {{GURPS}} version, is any mention ''at all'' of the use of poison gas. Since poison gas was used extensively in WorldWarI and afterward, (but not in WorldWarII for various reasons), it's not as though the technology to use it doesn't exist. A Chtorran "mandala" (settlement) or "city" would probably go down very quickly to, e.g. an attack using chlorine, phosgene or mustard gas.