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** The reason Smith is such a danger: in real world computing terms, Smith is a [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork_bomb fork bomb]]. And not just any fork bomb (which the OS can shut down), a fork bomb with full superuser access (due to getting code from Neo).
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*** Why would you say Neo can't use kung fu? Neo seems to be able to fight just fine against Bane-Smith in their confrontation aboard the ''Logos''. The only problems he seems to have are a very cramped area to fight in and perhaps a lack of recent experience fighting in the real world.
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** I think this is meant to play into the twist that began to be revealed in this film, and is more fully expressed in the third film through the characters of Rama, Kamala, and Sati; the machines and programs are truly sentient "living" beings, not just "dead" inanimate robots and code following unchanging rules. Programs, we begin to see in this film, have free will, can rebel against the machine authorities, have feelings, can form relationships. It shouldn't be surprising, after the scenes on the train platform in movie 3, that there are more programs that have relationships like humans. They are another race of beings, not just one dimensional bad guys, as the first film starts out implying.
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** 'Keymaking' is what he ''does''. If you presume he just spends his free time making different keys and doesn't discard them, the problem becomes not yet having made the key they require right then. Whether or not a key already made is requested by someone is a separate issue.
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* While escaping with The Keymaker, Trinity needs to hot-wire a motorcycle - but, how about that, The Keymaker has just the key she needs. And he has a ''lot'' of keys with him. One assumes that he deemed all of them (out of the countless number he had in his shop) as possibly required. How many choices did our heroes actually have if The Keymaker was as crazy-prepared as that?
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* During the freeway chase in ''Reloaded'', Morpheus fights an Agent on top of a trailer and at one point nearly falls off but grabs the Agent's tie. But the Agent will just respawn if he dies, so why exactly doesn't he simply let himself be pulled down along with Morpheus, leaving the Keymaker alone and defenceless atop a rig that can easily be taken over? By the very same Agent, even?
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* In ''Reloaded'', at the Merovingian's place, Persephone kills a "vampire" guard and then tells the other to...either go and tell the Merovingian about what happened or stay and die. I'm totally confused with that scene. Why would she want her husband to know what was going on if it was clear he'd try and stop them? Why were the heroes OK with that? Why exactly did she kill the first guard? What was with that strange choice she gave the second guard - she sounded like she was forcing him to go tell his boss what was going on, but why wouldn't he want to do it anyway?
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* After Neo and Trinity arrive to Zion in the beginning of "Reloaded", they immediately start making out the moment they get into an elevator, and then a whole scene is dedicated to them having sex. Ok, didn't they just spend an indeterminate amount of time on the same ship, sharing a bunk? Why are they acting like they've just met after a long time away from each other? What, was it forbidden to do it on the ship? It's ok to sleep together but not to... sleep together?
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** In the film proper the explanation is that the codes are for the gateways of Zion that we see normal ships accessing. Drilling from above is the only way to bypass said gates and defenses and thus the need for codes entirely.
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*** Fair enough. That leaves the question of heroes' inecplicable connivance. Seeing how they didn't try to impose their will on the Merovingian after he refused them, apparently they didn't seek confrontation. And now they just allow it to happen. Why? Ok, Persephone was kind of in charge there, but would it hurt to just ask: "lady, just what do you think you're doing?" After all, killing her cheating husband wasn't part of the deal.
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** It's possible that Neo has developed procognition abilities similar to the Oracle. In the same way he can see and interpet the code of the Matrix, he sees the future via mathematics and probability, same as the Oracle does. It may be that he's just not consciously using the ability and so it shows up in his dreams.
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* Smith says "It's happening, exactly as before", then '''another Smith''' smirks and says "Well... not ''exactly''..." (I happened to see the movie the same day I'm typing this up.) So, the events of the first movie are 'things following the plan'; one of the divergences is Smith isn't supposed to come back, but did this time (second & third movie). (Another divergence is Neo's feelings for Trinity, which The Architect notices, so even without Smith things would have gone off course in some way, if not OffTheRails.) So the fact that Smith has come back, and can copy himself, lets him believe he can influence things. As for surviving the "Neo was ''supposed'' to agree to wiping Zion and rebooting the Matrix", programs like Seraphim and the Merovingian are evidence that it's more a soft reboot than hard reboot/reformat, and is a survivable process to get through.
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** Assuming that no extra crew members were needed for operating or maintaining the ship itself, any missions into the Matrix after that point included The One. Previous concerns, such as bluepill police/soldiers or even agents, had become much less of an issue. Therefore, any available crew members would be better suited to serving on other ships.
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* In the first movie, following Neo's unplugging from the Matrix, Morpheus's crew had 9 members in all, including Neo himself (Neo, Morpheus, Trinity, Apoc, Switch, Cypher, Mouse, Tank, and Dozer). Following Cypher's betrayal, five of the crew (including Cypher himself) end up dead, with a sixth (Tank) dying in between the end of the first movie and ''Reloaded''. We saw that Morpheus replaced Tank with Link as operator, but he never replaced the rest of the crew members that were lost. Why is this?
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** At first most of the growing population would have been people freed from the Matrix and it is only after at least a decade that , that's pretty obvious. Arguably, the Machines at first would be pretty lax on policing the Matrix on purpose to allow Zion's growth, and eventually rev up the countermeasures. For all we know, Agents are not introduced for the first half of the 100 year cycle.
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* The Architect said that this is the sixth iteration of Zion, which was rebuilt after the fifth One complied with his purpose to continue the cycle. According to him, 23 individuals are picked to rebuild and repopulate Zion, 16 women and 7 men. I'm not really good at maths, admittedly, but it felt like 23 people is just too low a number to repopulate Zion to around 250,000+ people in just under 100 years? Okay, maybe the maths ''do'' check out, but there's also the subject of the Zion itself. From what we've seen in the movie, the place is ''massive'', with lots of complex machineries and structures that would be a logistical nightmare to build with only a couple dozen people living in it, and it'd be a long while until the new generation is ready to work, not to mention that they have to build over the wasteland that used to be the old Zion after the machines are done with it, which only makes the rebuild harder. Granted, one could assume they freed more people from The Matrix to join the cause in the meantime, but it's still quite a reach that all the things we've seen in the newest version of Zion could be achieved in only under a century and started from just a handful of people.
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**Neo is a known factor for the machines, the "upper management" of the Matrix are aware of his existence and his identity (all versions of Neo look the same!), so couldn't it be that part of his The One package is a wireless connection?
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** The way I see it is that Neo is part human, part program - he's part of the Matrix program and he disabled the Sentinals by tapping into his machine conscious and turned them off from within the Matrix. This why he ended up [[Spoiler:physically out of the Matrix and mentally in the Matrix (well the entrance to it)]] How he connected the two is the real headscratcher.
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**He may have just been showing restraint- there was no need to kill them when he could just slow them down and leave. Also, killing them would have killed their human hosts too.
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* At the end of the first film it appears that Neo has the power to kill/delete/explode agents which he uses on Agent Smith. Why, when he fights agents in the second film does he not even attempt to do this? Okay so he gets Smith's earpiece in the post just before his first fight with them which implies it wasn't a complete success. But it seems a bit premature to assume it won't work again. He doesn't know about Smith's copying ability at this point.
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** Because that would break the charade for all the people who are still plugged into the Matrix? Having mysterious government agents in black doing insane martial arts is one thing but why would they be wearing explosive vests?
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