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** Also, don't forget that it's really only been 100 years since the start of this particular cycle of the war. As mentioned there have been previous versions of the Matrix and other Ones and wars but, critically, Morpheus isn't aware of that. Nobody is until Neo meets with the Architect later in the movie. Morpheus believes that the AI taking over the world and Zion's resistance is concurrent, so from his perspective he thinks it's "closer to 2199". If the other versions of the Matrix had a similar runtime then it's more likely to be nearer 2699.

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** Also, don't forget that it's really only been 100 years since the start of this particular cycle of the war. As mentioned there have been previous versions of the Matrix and other Ones and wars but, critically, Morpheus isn't aware of that. Nobody is until Neo meets with the Architect later in the movie. Morpheus believes that the AI taking over the world and Zion's resistance is concurrent, happened consecutively, so from his perspective he thinks it's "closer to 2199". If the other versions of the Matrix had a similar runtime then it's more likely to be nearer 2699.
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**Also, don't forget that it's really only been 100 years since the start of this particular cycle of the war. As mentioned there have been previous versions of the Matrix and other Ones and wars but, critically, Morpheus isn't aware of that. Nobody is until Neo meets with the Architect later in the movie. Morpheus believes that the AI taking over the world and Zion's resistance is concurrent, so from his perspective he thinks it's "closer to 2199". If the other versions of the Matrix had a similar runtime then it's more likely to be nearer 2699.
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--> Fate II: He's returned into the Matrix and is [[IHaveNoMouthAndIMustScream forced to spend the rest of his life with that niggling sensation of what's real or not.]]

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--> Fate II: He's returned into the Matrix and is [[IHaveNoMouthAndIMustScream [[AndIMustScream forced to spend the rest of his life with that niggling sensation of what's real or not.]]
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*** The precise quote: "The Matrix is a system, Neo; that system is our enemy. But look around you, what do you see? [[AcceptableTargets Teachers; lawyers; carpenters]] - the very minds of the people we are trying to save. Understand, Neo, that most of these people are not yet ready to be unplugged. And some of them are so inert, so helplessly dependent on the system, that they will die to protect it. ... It's another training program designed to teach you only one thing: if you are not one of us, you are one of them [agents] ... in the Matrix, they are everyone, and they are no one."

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*** The precise quote: "The Matrix is a system, Neo; that system is our enemy. But look around you, what do you see? [[AcceptableTargets Teachers; see?Teachers; lawyers; carpenters]] carpenters - the very minds of the people we are trying to save. Understand, Neo, that most of these people are not yet ready to be unplugged. And some of them are so inert, so helplessly dependent on the system, that they will die to protect it. ... It's another training program designed to teach you only one thing: if you are not one of us, you are one of them [agents] ... in the Matrix, they are everyone, and they are no one."
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** I'm confused by this comment. I (DrDingleDangle) literally have no problem imagining people I know. I never forget a face though. Are other people not like this?

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** *** I'm confused by this comment. I (DrDingleDangle) literally have no problem imagining people I know. know but I also never forget a face though.face. Are other people not like this?
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** I'm confused by this comment. I (DrDingleDangle) literally have no problem imagining people I know. I never forget a face though. Are other people not like this?
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just saying "no" to someone's remark without any explanation or reason is bad etiquette and belongs in a forum not on a tv tropes page.


*** "the symbolism and philosophical bent of the films doesn't really add anything to the experience" Yes. It. Does. "smeared over the top of pre-existing themes"? That's grade-A nonsense.

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