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** Ultra Car was always smug and self-absorbed--once he helps save the world in ''Webcomic/ItsWalky'' he tells everyone to "bask in his glory" or something along those lines. He only got himself upgraded to a more eco-friendly body because it'd give him something else to feel superior about. Him being a jerk is part that, and part him trying to find his niche.
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** Ultra Car was always smug and self-absorbed--once he helps save the world in ''Webcomic/ItsWalky'' he tells everyone to "bask in his glory" or something along those lines. He only got himself upgraded to a more eco-friendly Eco-friendly body because it'd give him something else to feel superior about. Him being a jerk is part that, and part him trying to find his niche.
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** I think it started when the arguments about Ethan's toy collecting was becoming a serious problem started happening with Drew. Someone likened Ethan's toy collecting to smoking/drinking and it spiralled out of control. The Shortpacked fanbase never lets anythign go, ever.
** Yes, that is the origin. During the break up with Drew, people were so desperate to portray it as a crippling addiction that they started to compare it to drinking and/or smoking, disregarding the fact that there are numerous reasons that this comparison is complete bull. When the next strip featured Ethan writing on a chalkboard and Robin getting mad that this was "her schtick," I made the comparison to smoking or drinking as a way of illustrating the stupidity in that argument. It got a laugh from Willis, I thought I would turn it into a running gag, used it twice, dit find it nearly as funny as I expected, used it once more, then stopped. Did it become a meme, really, or just one guy doing it?
** Yes, that is the origin. During the break up with Drew, people were so desperate to portray it as a crippling addiction that they started to compare it to drinking and/or smoking, disregarding the fact that there are numerous reasons that this comparison is complete bull. When the next strip featured Ethan writing on a chalkboard and Robin getting mad that this was "her schtick," I made the comparison to smoking or drinking as a way of illustrating the stupidity in that argument. It got a laugh from Willis, I thought I would turn it into a running gag, used it twice, dit find it nearly as funny as I expected, used it once more, then stopped. Did it become a meme, really, or just one guy doing it?
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** I think it started when the arguments about Ethan's toy collecting was becoming a serious problem started happening with Drew. Someone likened Ethan's toy collecting to smoking/drinking and it spiralled spiraled out of control. The Shortpacked fanbase never lets anythign anything go, ever.
** Yes, that is the origin. During the break up with Drew, people were so desperate to portray it as a crippling addiction that they started to compare it to drinking and/or smoking, disregarding the fact that there are numerous reasons that this comparison is complete bull. When the next strip featured Ethan writing on a chalkboard and Robin getting mad that this was "herschtick," shtick," I made the comparison to smoking or drinking as a way of illustrating the stupidity in that argument. It got a laugh from Willis, I thought I would turn it into a running gag, used it twice, dit didnt find it nearly as funny as I expected, used it once more, then stopped. Did it become a meme, really, or just one guy doing it?
** Yes, that is the origin. During the break up with Drew, people were so desperate to portray it as a crippling addiction that they started to compare it to drinking and/or smoking, disregarding the fact that there are numerous reasons that this comparison is complete bull. When the next strip featured Ethan writing on a chalkboard and Robin getting mad that this was "her
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** If you watch his tumblr it becomes clear that pretty much all those crazy fans with irrational, hatefull arguments are all things that have actually been said. Sometimes what he puts up is actually less horrible tyhan what the real person said.
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** If you watch his tumblr it becomes clear that pretty much all those crazy fans with irrational, hatefull hateful arguments are all things that have actually been said. Sometimes what he puts up is actually less horrible tyhan what the real person said.
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** The "The arguments are based on real people" defence Willis uses is actually non-applicable in most of those strips. To avoid the Strawman fallacy, Willis would have to write in the exact argument word for word and then have his characters respond to it. However in most cases, he rewrites the arguments others make in order to make them seem [[http://www.shortpacked.com/comic/history dumber]] or [[http://www.shortpacked.com/comic/real-comics more egotistical]] than the original statements initially were, devaluing the opposition to strengthen his protagonists..
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** The "The arguments are based on real people" defence defense Willis uses is actually non-applicable in most of those strips. To avoid the Strawman fallacy, Willis would have to write in the exact argument word for word and then have his characters respond to it. However in most cases, he rewrites the arguments others make in order to make them seem [[http://www.shortpacked.com/comic/history dumber]] or [[http://www.shortpacked.com/comic/real-comics more egotistical]] than the original statements initially were, devaluing the opposition to strengthen his protagonists..
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* I might be crazy but perhaps someone else noticed this. Despite making strips [[http://www.shortpacked.com/comic/johnny-storm mocking racism]], there is a lot of subtle racial bias. Malaya and Faz, both clearly asian, are a clear asshole and disturbing creep respectively, while the paler skinned Ken (Who even Willis joked looks like a weird version of Ethan) is a nicer person and takes over as the AuthorAvatar when Ethan leaves. Robin is self-centred [[http://www.shortpacked.com/comic/a-25 and manipulative]] while [[http://www.shortpacked.com/comic/komm-ssser-tod Roz forced her way into the house]] and took [[http://www.shortpacked.com/comic/number advantage of an emotionally damaged Jacob]]. Also, while Ethan, Amber and Leslie being assistant managers is portrayed as them moving up in the world, Faz's ambitions are part of [[http://www.shortpacked.com/comic/ladder his negative traits]].
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* I might be crazy but perhaps someone else noticed this. Despite making strips [[http://www.shortpacked.com/comic/johnny-storm mocking racism]], there is a lot of subtle racial bias. Malaya and Faz, both clearly asian, are a clear asshole and disturbing creep respectively, while the paler skinned Ken (Who even Willis joked looks like a weird version of Ethan) is a nicer person and takes over as the AuthorAvatar when Ethan leaves. Robin is self-centred self-centered [[http://www.shortpacked.com/comic/a-25 and manipulative]] while [[http://www.shortpacked.com/comic/komm-ssser-tod Roz forced her way into the house]] and took [[http://www.shortpacked.com/comic/number advantage of an emotionally damaged Jacob]]. Also, while Ethan, Amber and Leslie being assistant managers is portrayed as them moving up in the world, Faz's ambitions are part of [[http://www.shortpacked.com/comic/ladder his negative traits]].
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** Fair enough; Robin did use Leslie first (I'm wondering if Leslie was meant to be a throwaway character, used in a few strips before being discarded, but evolved into what she is now), so each is a ManipulativeBastard. Since two wrongs don't make a right, it comes down to whether or not Leslie can forgive Robin's trespass, and whether or not Robin can forgive ''herself''. It seems the core of the relationship became Robin's feelings of guilt rather than love. You can do something nice for someone (yes, even [[UpToEleven buy a house]]) and not be romantically/sexually attracted to them. Robin gave, Leslie accepted, but still wanted more; she pushed the issue for selfish reasons. Usual caring demeanor aside...that kind of makes her a [[BitchInSheepsClothing bitch]]. To paraphrase [[WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries Batman]], "At least Robin has madness as an excuse!"
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** Fair enough; Robin did use Leslie first (I'm wondering if Leslie was meant to be a throwaway character, used in a few strips before being discarded, but evolved into what she is now), so each is a ManipulativeBastard. Since two wrongs don't make a right, it comes down to whether or not Leslie can forgive Robin's trespass, and whether or not Robin can forgive ''herself''. It seems the core of the relationship became Robin's feelings of guilt rather than love. You can do something nice for someone (yes, even [[UpToEleven buy a house]]) house) and not be romantically/sexually attracted to them. Robin gave, Leslie accepted, but still wanted more; she pushed the issue for selfish reasons. Usual caring demeanor aside...that kind of makes her a [[BitchInSheepsClothing bitch]]. To paraphrase [[WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries Batman]], "At least Robin has madness as an excuse!"
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* I'm a little confused by the fact that there seems to be a significant portion of the fandom that sees Mike as a victim in the Mike/Amber relationship. We ''saw'' Mike being manipulated into a relationship back in It's Walky!, and I don't think that Amber's tactics would have succeeded in keeping Mike if Mike had not allowed it. It was strongly implied that she only found out about his second job and personality because he wanted her to, and even if he hadn't intended for her to find out, it would have been simple to spin her attempt to blackmail him so as to make Amber look utterly pathetic. If anything, he manipulated her into manipulating him into a relationship. So how does this make Mike a victim at all? Is it just Amber hating?
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* I'm a little confused by the fact that there seems to be a significant portion of the fandom that sees Mike as a victim in the Mike/Amber relationship. We ''saw'' saw Mike being manipulated into a relationship back in It's Walky!, and I don't think that Amber's tactics would have succeeded in keeping Mike if Mike had not allowed it. It was strongly implied that she only found out about his second job and personality because he wanted her to, and even if he hadn't intended for her to find out, it would have been simple to spin her attempt to blackmail him so as to make Amber look utterly pathetic. If anything, he manipulated her into manipulating him into a relationship. So how does this make Mike a victim at all? Is it just Amber hating?
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** Ultra Car was always smug and self-absorbed--once he [[spoiler:helps save the world]] in ''Webcomic/ItsWalky'' he tells everyone to "bask in his glory" or something along those lines. He only got himself upgraded to a more eco-friendly body because it'd give him something else to feel superior about. Him being a jerk is part that, and part him trying to find his niche.
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** Ultra Car was always smug and self-absorbed--once he [[spoiler:helps helps save the world]] world in ''Webcomic/ItsWalky'' he tells everyone to "bask in his glory" or something along those lines. He only got himself upgraded to a more eco-friendly body because it'd give him something else to feel superior about. Him being a jerk is part that, and part him trying to find his niche.
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* Reagan is still alive/alive again, and he hasn't told or reunited with Nancy? That's ''cold'', man.
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* Reagan is still alive/alive again, and he hasn't told or reunited with Nancy? That's ''cold'', cold, man.
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** The issue is, Barry's resurection is just one part of DC's seeming crusade to eradicate all legacy characters from the comics. And to be honest, I agree with Willis, the "classic heroes" just don't stack up these days. They're relics of the silver age, hopelessly out of touch and lacking anything particularly interesting about them. I say this as a guy who's read every issue of the Flash since Crisis on Infinite Earths, via scans or trades, as well as a lot of barry allens tenure as the Flash. Wally has a more well rounded character, fits a much more unique role in the Justice League as the nice, fun loving one (as opposed Barry's trademark seriousness) has a far more fleshed out world, including a wonderful supporting cast as well as his interactions with other heroes. Besides, Barry Allen's new stories are, to be honest, boring. It's just nothing but Professor Zoom, time and again, which really gets old. And to the claim that Wally is a "white republican from the 60's too" I would point out that Wally generally falls on the liberal end of the spectrum, see his friendship with Piper for just one example.
** I believe he was making what those in the business refer to as a 'joke'. He happens to like Wally (and drawing Wally) better than Barry, and gave a deliberately ridiculous explanation for it. Nothing more or less to it.
** I believe he was making what those in the business refer to as a 'joke'. He happens to like Wally (and drawing Wally) better than Barry, and gave a deliberately ridiculous explanation for it. Nothing more or less to it.
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** I believe he was making what those in the business refer to as a 'joke'. He happens to like Wally (and drawing Wally) better than Barry, and gave a deliberately ridiculous explanation for it. Nothing more or less to it.
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* The character [[http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=778 Omnios]] is a rather blatant TakeThat towards people who engage in [[PerverseSexualLust PSL]]. Maybe it's only because it hits a little too close to home for this troper, but I don't know...it [[TitleDrop just bugs me]].
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* The character [[http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=778 com/comic/omnios Omnios]] is a rather blatant TakeThat towards people who engage in [[PerverseSexualLust PSL]]. Maybe it's only because it hits a little too close to home for this troper, but I don't know...it [[TitleDrop just bugs me]].
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** The "The arguments are based on real people" defence Willis uses is actually non-applicable in most of those strips. To avoid the Strawman fallacy, Willis would have to write in the exact argument word for word and then have his characters respond to it. However in most cases, he rewrites the arguments others make in order to make them seem [[http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1852 dumber]] or [[http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=2026 more egotistical]] than the original statements initially were, devaluing the opposition to strengthen his protagonists..
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** The "The arguments are based on real people" defence Willis uses is actually non-applicable in most of those strips. To avoid the Strawman fallacy, Willis would have to write in the exact argument word for word and then have his characters respond to it. However in most cases, he rewrites the arguments others make in order to make them seem [[http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1852 com/comic/history dumber]] or [[http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=2026 com/comic/real-comics more egotistical]] than the original statements initially were, devaluing the opposition to strengthen his protagonists..
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* I might be crazy but perhaps someone else noticed this. Despite making strips [[http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1861 mocking racism]], there is a lot of subtle racial bias. Malaya and Faz, both clearly asian, are a clear asshole and disturbing creep respectively, while the paler skinned Ken (Who even Willis joked looks like a weird version of Ethan) is a nicer person and takes over as the AuthorAvatar when Ethan leaves. Robin is self-centred [[http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=39 and manipulative]] while [[http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1280 Roz forced her way into the house]] and took [[http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1297 advantage of an emotionally damaged Jacob]]. Also, while Ethan, Amber and Leslie being assistant managers is portrayed as them moving up in the world, Faz's ambitions are part of [[http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=147 his negative traits]].
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* I might be crazy but perhaps someone else noticed this. Despite making strips [[http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1861 com/comic/johnny-storm mocking racism]], there is a lot of subtle racial bias. Malaya and Faz, both clearly asian, are a clear asshole and disturbing creep respectively, while the paler skinned Ken (Who even Willis joked looks like a weird version of Ethan) is a nicer person and takes over as the AuthorAvatar when Ethan leaves. Robin is self-centred [[http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=39 com/comic/a-25 and manipulative]] while [[http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1280 com/comic/komm-ssser-tod Roz forced her way into the house]] and took [[http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1297 com/comic/number advantage of an emotionally damaged Jacob]]. Also, while Ethan, Amber and Leslie being assistant managers is portrayed as them moving up in the world, Faz's ambitions are part of [[http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=147 com/comic/ladder his negative traits]].
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** All of this ignores that Willis has outright stated that he likes writing characters that are assholes (hence why almost everyone is).
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** There's also the fact that an argument does not have to come from nowhere to be a strawman. There are enough people in the world that if you deliberately go looking for them (or deliberately provoke them, as Willis enjoys doing) you can find someone to represent almost any argument of any extreme. The straw is in the fact that Willis then tries to portray these as the mainstream... that it is not a small handful of people or even a single individual with these views, but everyone that disagrees with his personal opinions. Even then that only applies to the strawmen whose arguments aren't entirely invented as an imagined extreme opposition to his (of course utterly reasoned, logical, and intelligent) beliefs, which despite his claims there are plenty.
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* The character [[http://www.shortpacked.com/2008/comic/book-8/01-skeleflex/omnios/ Omnios]] is a rather blatant TakeThat towards people who engage in [[PerverseSexualLust PSL]]. Maybe it's only because it hits a little too close to home for this troper, but I don't know...it [[TitleDrop just bugs me]].
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* The character [[http://www.shortpacked.com/2008/comic/book-8/01-skeleflex/omnios/ com/index.php?id=778 Omnios]] is a rather blatant TakeThat towards people who engage in [[PerverseSexualLust PSL]]. Maybe it's only because it hits a little too close to home for this troper, but I don't know...it [[TitleDrop just bugs me]].
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** The "The arguments are based on real people" defence Willis uses is actually non-applicable in most of those strips. To avoid the Strawman fallacy, Willis would have to write in the exact argument word for word and then have his characters respond to it. However in most cases, he rewrites the arguments others make in order to make them seem [[http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1852 dumber]] or [[http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=2026 more egotistical]] than the original statements initially were, devaluing the opposition to strengthen his protagonists..
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* I might be crazy but perhaps someone else noticed this. Despite making strips [[http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1861 mocking racism]], there is a lot of subtle racial bias. Malaya and Faz, both clearly asian, are a clear asshole and disturbing creep respectively, while the paler skinned Ken (Who even Willis joked looks like a weird version of Ethan) is a nicer person and takes over as the AuthorAvatar when Ethan leaves. Robin is self-centred [[http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=39 and manipulative]] while [[http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1280 Roz forced her way into the house]] and took [[http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1297 advantage of an emotionally damaged Jacob]]. Also, while Ethan, Amber and Leslie being assistant managers is portrayed as them moving up in the world, Faz's ambitions are part of [[http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=147 his negative traits]].
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** ...What defines as "stereotypical-60's-Republican" anyway? Not being a jerk & being courteous to others? Not to mention that... well... what's wrong with a character who acts like that anyway? Between "Stuck in the 60's" Barry Allen & a NinetiesAntiHero (not talking about Wally, but like someone from the Blood Pack or Extreme Justice), I'd take the old school guy. And the reason Wally evolved was because Barry was dead. Not much character development can happen when you are dead. And Barry has changed, not by a lot but he has. Wally just has several decades of it more than Barry. Not to mention that if he didn't want to draw Barry, he didn't ''HAVE'' to, he could have just used Wally from JusticeLeague. It just is Willis being a jerk to people who actually ''do'' like Barry as a Flash.
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** ...What defines as "stereotypical-60's-Republican" anyway? Not being a jerk & being courteous to others? Not to mention that... well... what's wrong with a character who acts like that anyway? Between "Stuck in the 60's" Barry Allen & a NinetiesAntiHero (not talking about Wally, but like someone from the Blood Pack or Extreme Justice), I'd take the old school guy. And the reason Wally evolved was because Barry was dead. Not much character development can happen when you are dead. And Barry has changed, not by a lot but he has. Wally just has several decades of it more than Barry. Not to mention that if he didn't want to draw Barry, he didn't ''HAVE'' to, he could have just used Wally from JusticeLeague.''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague''. It just is Willis being a jerk to people who actually ''do'' like Barry as a Flash.
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Example Indenation. Three bullets are rarely necessary, and anything past three shows up as three.
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*** Jason's appearance seems like it was intended to clear this up; Mike doesn't do ''anything'' he doesn't actually want to, at least on some level. My guess is that he initially went along with it out of his general {{jerkass}} nature; he intended to play boyfriend for a while, get Amber to develop deeper feelings for him, then break her heart. His comments (hurtful but accurate, which is Mike's M.O.) about their relationship being "not real" sort of back this up. Amber felt terrible and agreed to let him go with no further blackmail. Mission accomplished: he gets to keep his secret, get back at Amber for trying to manipulate him, and make someone miserable in the process. What he didn't count on was that he'd actually have feelings for her at this point, and not ''want'' to break up.
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*** Actually, Omnios was a guy on the Allspark who wouldn't shut the hell up about how he wanted a character from ''WesternAnimation/MyLifeAsATeenageRobot'' to be his wife, and his SelfInsert MartyStu fanfiction he wrote about it. The whole "what if Transformers turned into sexy sexy animals" thing was another actual idea of his. Seriously.
**** He also wanted Sari from ''WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated'' to have a nerd boyfriend based on himself, and wanted Transformers toys of Rugrats, MLAATR and other Nick properties because "he's creative".
**** He also wanted Sari from ''WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated'' to have a nerd boyfriend based on himself, and wanted Transformers toys of Rugrats, MLAATR and other Nick properties because "he's creative".
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*** Fair enough; Robin did use Leslie first (I'm wondering if Leslie was meant to be a throwaway character, used in a few strips before being discarded, but evolved into what she is now), so each is a ManipulativeBastard. Since two wrongs don't make a right, it comes down to whether or not Leslie can forgive Robin's trespass, and whether or not Robin can forgive ''herself''. It seems the core of the relationship became Robin's feelings of guilt rather than love. You can do something nice for someone (yes, even [[UpToEleven buy a house]]) and not be romantically/sexually attracted to them. Robin gave, Leslie accepted, but still wanted more; she pushed the issue for selfish reasons. Usual caring demeanor aside...that kind of makes her a [[BitchInSheepsClothing bitch]]. To paraphrase [[WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries Batman]], "At least Robin has madness as an excuse!"
*** How does that work with Robin's video message to herself? She equates losing Leslie with losing ''everything''. And then there's how Leslie dumped her, after realizing just how much Robin had given up for her. The instant she thought she was holding Robin back, she pulled an IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy. They fought because they both felt angry. They '''broke up''' because Leslie ''didn't want'' to be a ManipulativeBastard, even accidentally.
*** How does that work with Robin's video message to herself? She equates losing Leslie with losing ''everything''. And then there's how Leslie dumped her, after realizing just how much Robin had given up for her. The instant she thought she was holding Robin back, she pulled an IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy. They fought because they both felt angry. They '''broke up''' because Leslie ''didn't want'' to be a ManipulativeBastard, even accidentally.
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*** Yeah, even among friends Leslie is rarely referred to as Les.
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*** Except there's almost ''always'' those three things to do. Take it from someone who works in retail, there isn't a lot of downtime.
*** They also had half a staff full of super people. Plus a Car with extendable limbs and the ability to find anything in seconds to grab things from the stockroom for them. They have much more spare time than most other people would.
**** If any of them ever worked, sure.
*** They also had half a staff full of super people. Plus a Car with extendable limbs and the ability to find anything in seconds to grab things from the stockroom for them. They have much more spare time than most other people would.
**** If any of them ever worked, sure.
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*** ...What defines as "stereotypical-60's-Republican" anyway? Not being a jerk & being courteous to others? Not to mention that... well... what's wrong with a character who acts like that anyway? Between "Stuck in the 60's" Barry Allen & a NinetiesAntiHero (not talking about Wally, but like someone from the Blood Pack or Extreme Justice), I'd take the old school guy. And the reason Wally evolved was because Barry was dead. Not much character development can happen when you are dead. And Barry has changed, not by a lot but he has. Wally just has several decades of it more than Barry. Not to mention that if he didn't want to draw Barry, he didn't ''HAVE'' to, he could have just used Wally from JusticeLeague. It just is Willis being a jerk to people who actually ''do'' like Barry as a Flash.
*** The issue is, Barry's resurection is just one part of DC's seeming crusade to eradicate all legacy characters from the comics. And to be honest, I agree with Willis, the "classic heroes" just don't stack up these days. They're relics of the silver age, hopelessly out of touch and lacking anything particularly interesting about them. I say this as a guy who's read every issue of the Flash since Crisis on Infinite Earths, via scans or trades, as well as a lot of barry allens tenure as the Flash. Wally has a more well rounded character, fits a much more unique role in the Justice League as the nice, fun loving one (as opposed Barry's trademark seriousness) has a far more fleshed out world, including a wonderful supporting cast as well as his interactions with other heroes. Besides, Barry Allen's new stories are, to be honest, boring. It's just nothing but Professor Zoom, time and again, which really gets old. And to the claim that Wally is a "white republican from the 60's too" I would point out that Wally generally falls on the liberal end of the spectrum, see his friendship with Piper for just one example.
*** The issue is, Barry's resurection is just one part of DC's seeming crusade to eradicate all legacy characters from the comics. And to be honest, I agree with Willis, the "classic heroes" just don't stack up these days. They're relics of the silver age, hopelessly out of touch and lacking anything particularly interesting about them. I say this as a guy who's read every issue of the Flash since Crisis on Infinite Earths, via scans or trades, as well as a lot of barry allens tenure as the Flash. Wally has a more well rounded character, fits a much more unique role in the Justice League as the nice, fun loving one (as opposed Barry's trademark seriousness) has a far more fleshed out world, including a wonderful supporting cast as well as his interactions with other heroes. Besides, Barry Allen's new stories are, to be honest, boring. It's just nothing but Professor Zoom, time and again, which really gets old. And to the claim that Wally is a "white republican from the 60's too" I would point out that Wally generally falls on the liberal end of the spectrum, see his friendship with Piper for just one example.
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*** Yes, that is the origin. During the break up with Drew, people were so desperate to portray it as a crippling addiction that they started to compare it to drinking and/or smoking, disregarding the fact that there are numerous reasons that this comparison is complete bull. When the next strip featured Ethan writing on a chalkboard and Robin getting mad that this was "her schtick," I made the comparison to smoking or drinking as a way of illustrating the stupidity in that argument. It got a laugh from Willis, I thought I would turn it into a running gag, used it twice, dit find it nearly as funny as I expected, used it once more, then stopped. Did it become a meme, really, or just one guy doing it?
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*** There's really no paradox. Willis's existence in his own universe is well-documented. He draws a webcomic called ''Shortpants'' but is better known for his Shattered Glass Transformers work. The nickname is a coincidence. There can be two famous guys with the same nickname. (Though given one damn-near single-handedly saved us all from Martians and the other draws comics, I suspect the fame levels are somewhat disparate.)
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*** Huh. Didn't know that. I still think it's a kind of dumb idea to make everyone who ever disagrees with your views into strawmen. Or use them for serious arguments. Again, that's just me.
**** If you watch his tumblr it becomes clear that pretty much all those crazy fans with irrational, hatefull arguments are all things that have actually been said. Sometimes what he puts up is actually less horrible tyhan what the real person said.
**** If you watch his tumblr it becomes clear that pretty much all those crazy fans with irrational, hatefull arguments are all things that have actually been said. Sometimes what he puts up is actually less horrible tyhan what the real person said.
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*** Ah thank you for clearing that up!
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*** Actually, Omnios was a guy on the Allspark who wouldn't shut the hell up about how he wanted a character from MyLifeAsATeenageRobot to be his wife, and his SelfInsert MartyStu fanfiction he wrote about it. The whole "what if Transformers turned into sexy sexy animals" thing was another actual idea of his. Seriously.
**** He also wanted Sari from TransformersAnimated to have a nerd boyfriend based on himself, and wanted Transformers toys of Rugrats, MLAATR and other Nick properties because "he's creative".
**** He also wanted Sari from TransformersAnimated to have a nerd boyfriend based on himself, and wanted Transformers toys of Rugrats, MLAATR and other Nick properties because "he's creative".
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*** Actually, Omnios was a guy on the Allspark who wouldn't shut the hell up about how he wanted a character from MyLifeAsATeenageRobot ''WesternAnimation/MyLifeAsATeenageRobot'' to be his wife, and his SelfInsert MartyStu fanfiction he wrote about it. The whole "what if Transformers turned into sexy sexy animals" thing was another actual idea of his. Seriously.
**** He also wanted Sari fromTransformersAnimated ''WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated'' to have a nerd boyfriend based on himself, and wanted Transformers toys of Rugrats, MLAATR and other Nick properties because "he's creative".
**** He also wanted Sari from
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** Malaya has been specifically stated to be a good worker, and we've seen her being helpful to the customers. Considering Ethan was viewed as a model employee even when he would regularly insult or rant to the customers, it's not particularly hard to see how Malaya keeps her job.
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** Often his "strawmen" are based on real comments posted on the internet. He'll occasionally even link to them either on tumblr or in the comments.
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* What is with UltraCar being a jerk? He has it made in the shade. He seems to be complaining just to hear himself talk. Mike, at least, has motives, even if it's just 'I made you angry'. UltraCar isn't even that.
** Ultra-Car was always smug and self-absorbed--once he [[spoiler:helps save the world]] in ''Webcomic/ItsWalky'' he tells everyone to "bask in his glory" or something along those lines. He only got himself upgraded to a more eco-friendly body because it'd give him something else to feel superior about. Him being a jerk is part that, and part him trying to find his niche.
* What is with UltraCar being a jerk? He has it made in the shade. He seems to be complaining just to hear himself talk. Mike, at least, has motives, even if it's just 'I made you angry'. UltraCar isn't even that.
** Ultra-Car was always smug and self-absorbed--once he [[spoiler:helps save the world]] in ''Webcomic/ItsWalky'' he tells everyone to "bask in his glory" or something along those lines. He only got himself upgraded to a more eco-friendly body because it'd give him something else to feel superior about. Him being a jerk is part that, and part him trying to find his niche.
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* Malaya gets away with way too much bitching while contributing nothing at all. Mike and Ultra car's dickishness is at least ''mildly'' entertaining most of the time. Maybe it's just the amount of focus she's gotten lately, most of which is spent complaining and avoiding anything even resembling work and/or responsibility.
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* Malaya gets away with way too much bitching while contributing nothing at all. Mike and Ultra car's Car's dickishness is at least ''mildly'' entertaining most of the time. Maybe it's just the amount of focus she's gotten lately, most of which is spent complaining and avoiding anything even resembling work and/or responsibility.
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I was gonna nuke the whole headscratcher for being complaining, but the rest of the tropers with genuine questions shouldn\'t have to suffer for one guy\'s response. (also folderized the page)
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*** Yeah, even among friends Leslie is rarely reffered to as Les.
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*** Yeah, even among friends Leslie is rarely reffered referred to as Les.Les.
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** Willis uses those sorts of strawmen for the same reason he generally puts his opinions in the mouths of minorities: He's not confident in his personal opinions and has to give them weight some other way. If two rational people discuss something and disagree, well, both opinions could be considered right. If one rational, handsome, gay/black/female/all of the above person has an opinion and one rude, ugly, young white male has a different opinion, a lot of people are conditioned to accept that the first person's opinion clearly must be objectively correct. The "Oh but I heard about someone that was actually much worse!" stuff is really just an excuse for bad, hamfisted writing.
*** So there are three options for him then if he wants to continue political stuff, just outright say his opinion, perfectly fine, continue with the strawmen coming in shouting "misandry!" and all that, or have rational individuals discuss things. If there was a 4th option it' be give it up.
*** So there are three options for him then if he wants to continue political stuff, just outright say his opinion, perfectly fine, continue with the strawmen coming in shouting "misandry!" and all that, or have rational individuals discuss things. If there was a 4th option it' be give it up.
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