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** Additionally, Ralph is [[JustHereForGodzilla THE MAIN CHARACTER OF THE DANG FILM!]] [[ViolationOfCommonSense Why would they put in a supporting character who happens to be a racer over the title character who's entire schtick is jumping from game to game?]]

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** Additionally, Ralph is [[JustHereForGodzilla THE MAIN CHARACTER OF THE DANG FILM!]] [[ViolationOfCommonSense Why would they put in a supporting character who happens to be a racer over the title character who's entire schtick is jumping from game to game?]]game?



** [[RuleOfCool Because it looks cool.]]
* Bit of a meta headscratcher: Considering how ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2'' will have hats as pre-order bonuses for other games on Steam, why didn't they have any items you get from purchasing or pre-ordering ''Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed'' even though Pyro, Heavy, and Spy are all playable in the game?

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** [[RuleOfCool Because it looks cool.]]
* Bit of a meta headscratcher: Considering how ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2'' will have hats as pre-order bonuses for other games on Steam, why didn't they have any items you get from purchasing or pre-ordering ''Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed'' even though Pyro, Heavy, and Spy are all playable in the game?
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** The most reasonable reason would be simply to avoid OverlyLongTitle. Sonic & Sega Allstars Transformed is a mouthfull...

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** The most reasonable reason would be simply to avoid OverlyLongTitle.a long title. Sonic & Sega Allstars Transformed is a mouthfull...
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** Likely because of the non-Sega characters joining in, like [[Disney/WreckItRalph Ralph]] and [[VideoGame/TeamFortress2 The Spy/Heavy/Pyro]].

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** Likely because of the non-Sega characters joining in, like [[Disney/WreckItRalph [[WesternAnimation/WreckItRalph Ralph]] and [[VideoGame/TeamFortress2 The Spy/Heavy/Pyro]].



* So Wreck-It Ralph is in Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed in exchange for Sonic's cameo in ''Disney/WreckItRalph''. That's fine. But why isn't Vanellope, canonically a kart racer in her own (fictional) game, also in this game? Even if they only added the one character (Ralph) out of contractual obligation, it seems like a missed opportunity.

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* So Wreck-It Ralph is in Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed in exchange for Sonic's cameo in ''Disney/WreckItRalph''.''WesternAnimation/WreckItRalph''. That's fine. But why isn't Vanellope, canonically a kart racer in her own (fictional) game, also in this game? Even if they only added the one character (Ralph) out of contractual obligation, it seems like a missed opportunity.



* Similar to Sonic needing a car, why would [[Disney/WreckItRalph Ralph]] need a wrecking ball? Isn't he essentially a human wrecking ball? It's not like it even comes into play in the game...

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* Similar to Sonic needing a car, why would [[Disney/WreckItRalph [[WesternAnimation/WreckItRalph Ralph]] need a wrecking ball? Isn't he essentially a human wrecking ball? It's not like it even comes into play in the game...
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* One of the earlier [[strike:[[VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Event Matches]]]] Missions, You play as [[SambaDeAmigo Amigo]] in a mission titled "Mardi Gras". Amigo is a ''mexican'' partying monkey. Mardi Gras is a ''french'' holiday. What the hell man?

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* One of the earlier [[strike:[[VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Event Matches]]]] Missions, You play as [[SambaDeAmigo [[VideoGame/SambaDeAmigo Amigo]] in a mission titled "Mardi Gras". Amigo is a ''mexican'' partying monkey. Mardi Gras is a ''french'' holiday. What the hell man?
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** [[RuleOfCool Because it looks cool.]]

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** [[RuleOfCool Because it looks cool.]]]]
* Bit of a meta headscratcher: Considering how ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2'' will have hats as pre-order bonuses for other games on Steam, why didn't they have any items you get from purchasing or pre-ordering ''Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed'' even though Pyro, Heavy, and Spy are all playable in the game?
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* Similar to Sonic needing a car, why would [[Disney/WreckItRalph Ralph]] need a wrecking ball? Isn't he essentially a human wrecking ball? It's not like it even comes into play in the game...

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* Similar to Sonic needing a car, why would [[Disney/WreckItRalph Ralph]] need a wrecking ball? Isn't he essentially a human wrecking ball? It's not like it even comes into play in the game...game...
** [[RuleOfCool Because it looks cool.]]

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* FridgeLogic: One of the earlier [[strike:[[VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Event Matches]]]] Missions, You play as [[SambaDeAmigo Amigo]] in a mission titled "Mardi Gras". Amigo is a ''mexican'' partying monkey. Mardi Gras is a ''french'' holiday. What the hell man?

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* FridgeLogic: One of the earlier [[strike:[[VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Event Matches]]]] Missions, You play as [[SambaDeAmigo Amigo]] in a mission titled "Mardi Gras". Amigo is a ''mexican'' partying monkey. Mardi Gras is a ''french'' holiday. What the hell man?



* FridgeLogic: Why the heck is Metal Sonic playing [[VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehogCD Metallic Madness Present]] whenever he goes into [[LimitBreak All-Star]]? Wouldn't the devs have found it to be more fitting, considering the context, to play Stardust Speedway (any version at all) instead?
* FridgeHorror: Metal Sonic has a skeleton. At first, it doesn't make sense, but when you realise what Eggman originally put in his robots to power them...
* FridgeBrilliance: Technical reasons aside... why is Sonic driving a car? Well, being the fastest thing alive, he would be disqualified if he were on foot. Plus, considering the nature of the races in the sequel, he would not be able to keep up on water or above ground.
** Sonic Lampshades this in Sonic Universe #45 after being asked why he has to drive; he finishes the race in a millisecond on foot, answering that question.
** Similarly, Beat, being that he can apparently skate as fast as his car, would probably also be disqualified for being on foot if he didn't save his skates for his All-Star, and that he probably can't skate in the air or the water for ''Transformed''.
** Additionally, it's been established that Sonic likes to play fair and will ratchet himself back a bit or abide by the rules in the name of sportsmanship. He stuck to Extreme Gear [[SonicRiders for the Ex-World Grand Prix]], of course he'd hop in a car for this.
** Also, it's very hard to drift on foot.
*** And, for ''Transformed'', Sonic cannot swim or fly. He needs that shifting car to remain in the races. Opa-Opa is perhaps the only protagonist of a SEGA game able to travel in all three ways without a vehicle to help. Which is what makes Opa-Opa's removal in ''Transformed'' itself mindboggling.
** This also accounts for Metal Sonic's using a vehicle, as he's shown to want to beat Sonic on more-or-less even terms...while giving himself a slight boost such as [[VideoGame/SonicDrift enhanced moves]] [[VideoGame/SonicR or skills]], [[VideoGame/SonicRivals a move copier]] or [[VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehogCD the threat]] [[VideoGame/SonicTheFighters of imminent doom.]]
** Mii's All-Star Move in ''Transformed'' surrounds him or her around shields and attacks with swords. This may seem out of place, but if you own a 3DS and remember ''[[VideoGame/StreetPassMiiPlaza Find Mii]]''...

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* FridgeLogic: Why the heck is Metal Sonic playing [[VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehogCD Metallic Madness Present]] whenever he goes into [[LimitBreak All-Star]]? Wouldn't the devs have found it to be more fitting, considering the context, to play Stardust Speedway (any version at all) instead?
* FridgeHorror: Metal Sonic has a skeleton. At first, it doesn't make sense, but when you realise what Eggman originally put in his robots to power them...
* FridgeBrilliance: Technical reasons aside... why is Sonic driving a car? Well, being the fastest thing alive, he would be disqualified if he were on foot. Plus, considering the nature of the races in the sequel, he would not be able to keep up on water or above ground.
** Sonic Lampshades this in Sonic Universe #45 after being asked why he has to drive; he finishes the race in a millisecond on foot, answering that question.
** Similarly, Beat, being that he can apparently skate as fast as his car, would probably also be disqualified for being on foot if he didn't save his skates for his All-Star, and that he probably can't skate in the air or the water for ''Transformed''.
** Additionally, it's been established that Sonic likes to play fair and will ratchet himself back a bit or abide by the rules in the name of sportsmanship. He stuck to Extreme Gear [[SonicRiders for the Ex-World Grand Prix]], of course he'd hop in a car for this.
** Also, it's very hard to drift on foot.
*** And, for ''Transformed'', Sonic cannot swim or fly. He needs that shifting car to remain in the races. Opa-Opa is perhaps the only protagonist of a SEGA game able to travel in all three ways without a vehicle to help. Which is what makes Opa-Opa's removal in ''Transformed'' itself mindboggling.
** This also accounts for Metal Sonic's using a vehicle, as he's shown to want to beat Sonic on more-or-less even terms...while giving himself a slight boost such as [[VideoGame/SonicDrift enhanced moves]] [[VideoGame/SonicR or skills]], [[VideoGame/SonicRivals a move copier]] or [[VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehogCD the threat]] [[VideoGame/SonicTheFighters of imminent doom.]]
** Mii's All-Star Move in ''Transformed'' surrounds him or her around shields and attacks with swords. This may seem out of place, but if you own a 3DS and remember ''[[VideoGame/StreetPassMiiPlaza Find Mii]]''...
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** Additionally, Ralph is [[JustHereForGodzilla THE MAIN CHARACTER OF THE DANG FILM!]] [[ViolationOfCommonSense Why would they put in a supporting character who happens to be a racer over the title character who's entire schtick is jumping from game to game?]]

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** Additionally, Ralph is [[JustHereForGodzilla THE MAIN CHARACTER OF THE DANG FILM!]] [[ViolationOfCommonSense Why would they put in a supporting character who happens to be a racer over the title character who's entire schtick is jumping from game to game?]]game?]]
* Similar to Sonic needing a car, why would [[Disney/WreckItRalph Ralph]] need a wrecking ball? Isn't he essentially a human wrecking ball? It's not like it even comes into play in the game...
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* FridgeLogic: One of the earlier [[strike:[[SuperSmashBros Event Matches]]]] Missions, You play as [[SambaDeAmigo Amigo]] in a mission titled "Mardi Gras". Amigo is a ''mexican'' partying monkey. Mardi Gras is a ''french'' holiday. What the hell man?

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* FridgeLogic: One of the earlier [[strike:[[SuperSmashBros [[strike:[[VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Event Matches]]]] Missions, You play as [[SambaDeAmigo Amigo]] in a mission titled "Mardi Gras". Amigo is a ''mexican'' partying monkey. Mardi Gras is a ''french'' holiday. What the hell man?
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** Mii's All-Star Move in ''Transformed'' surrounds him or her around shields and attacks with swords. This may seem out of place, but if you own a 3DS and remember ''FindMii''...

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** Mii's All-Star Move in ''Transformed'' surrounds him or her around shields and attacks with swords. This may seem out of place, but if you own a 3DS and remember ''FindMii''...''[[VideoGame/StreetPassMiiPlaza Find Mii]]''...
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* FridgeHorror: Metal Sonic has a skeleton. At first, it doesn't make sense, but when you realise what Eggman originally put in his robots to power them...
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* FridgeLogic: Why the heck is Metal Sonic playing [[SonicCD Metallic Madness Present]] whenever he goes into [[LimitBreak All-Star]]? Wouldn't the devs have found it to be more fitting, considering the context, to play Stardust Speedway (any version at all) instead?

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* FridgeLogic: Why the heck is Metal Sonic playing [[SonicCD [[VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehogCD Metallic Madness Present]] whenever he goes into [[LimitBreak All-Star]]? Wouldn't the devs have found it to be more fitting, considering the context, to play Stardust Speedway (any version at all) instead?
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** This also accounts for Metal Sonic's using a vehicle, as he's shown to want to beat Sonic on more-or-less even terms...while giving himself a slight boost such as [[SonicDrift enhanced moves]] [[SonicR or skills]], [[SonicRivals a move copier]] or [[SonicCD the threat]] [[SonicChampionship of imminent doom.]]

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** This also accounts for Metal Sonic's using a vehicle, as he's shown to want to beat Sonic on more-or-less even terms...while giving himself a slight boost such as [[SonicDrift [[VideoGame/SonicDrift enhanced moves]] [[SonicR [[VideoGame/SonicR or skills]], [[SonicRivals [[VideoGame/SonicRivals a move copier]] or [[SonicCD [[VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehogCD the threat]] [[SonicChampionship [[VideoGame/SonicTheFighters of imminent doom.]]
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** The most reasonable reason would be simply to avoid OverlyLongTitle. Sonic & Sega Allstars Transformed is a mouthfull...



** One of the people from Sumo Digital said it was because they only wanted to have one ''Wreck-It Ralph'' character. It's also most likely because it would spoil the fact that [[spoiler:by the end of the movie, Vanellope becomes part of her game's code again, and is therefore able to game-jump with the others.]] Keep in mind that when this game came out, the movie had just been released in American theaters, but European theaters wouldn't get the movie until February 2013.

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** One of the people from Sumo Digital said it was because they only wanted to have one ''Wreck-It Ralph'' character. It's also most likely because it would spoil the fact that [[spoiler:by the end of the movie, Vanellope becomes part of her game's code again, and is therefore able to game-jump with the others.]] Keep in mind that when this game came out, the movie had just been released in American theaters, but European theaters wouldn't get the movie until February 2013.2013.
** Additionally, Ralph is [[JustHereForGodzilla THE MAIN CHARACTER OF THE DANG FILM!]] [[ViolationOfCommonSense Why would they put in a supporting character who happens to be a racer over the title character who's entire schtick is jumping from game to game?]]

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** Likely because of the non-Sega characters joining in, like [[WreckItRalph Ralph]] and [[VideoGame/TeamFortress2 The Spy/Heavy/Pyro]].

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** Likely because of the non-Sega characters joining in, like [[WreckItRalph [[Disney/WreckItRalph Ralph]] and [[VideoGame/TeamFortress2 The Spy/Heavy/Pyro]].



*** Also, the the game is specifically labeled "Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing With Banjo-Kazooie". Banjo and Kazooie are made seperate from the Sega characters in the title.
* So Wreck-It Ralph is in Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed in exchange for Sonic's cameo in ''WreckItRalph''. That's fine. But why isn't Vanellope, canonically a kart racer in her own (fictional) game, also in this game? Even if they only added the one character (Ralph) out of contractual obligation, it seems like a missed opportunity.

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*** Also, the the game is specifically labeled "Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing With Banjo-Kazooie". Banjo and Kazooie are made seperate from the Sega characters in the title.
title. So if the sequel still had "Sega" in the title, then it would've been "Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing Transformed With Wreck-It Ralph and Danica Patrick", or on the PC version, *deep breath* "Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing Transformed With Wreck-It Ralph, Danica Patrick, Pyro, Heavy, and Spy".
* So Wreck-It Ralph is in Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed in exchange for Sonic's cameo in ''WreckItRalph''.''Disney/WreckItRalph''. That's fine. But why isn't Vanellope, canonically a kart racer in her own (fictional) game, also in this game? Even if they only added the one character (Ralph) out of contractual obligation, it seems like a missed opportunity.



*** This could also be one of Ralph's "game-jumping" adventures.

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*** This could also be one of Ralph's "game-jumping" adventures.adventures.
** One of the people from Sumo Digital said it was because they only wanted to have one ''Wreck-It Ralph'' character. It's also most likely because it would spoil the fact that [[spoiler:by the end of the movie, Vanellope becomes part of her game's code again, and is therefore able to game-jump with the others.]] Keep in mind that when this game came out, the movie had just been released in American theaters, but European theaters wouldn't get the movie until February 2013.
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*** Also, the the game is specifically labeled "Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing With Banjo-Kazooie". Banjo and Kazooie are made seperate from the Sega characters in the title.
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It\'s not Fridge Brilliance, these tracks are ripped directly from the first game. Of course they\'d stick to land vehicles.


*** This could also be one of Ralph's "game-jumping" adventures.
* I was playing the classic cup in ''Transofrmed'', and I noticed that none of the tracks in the cup have any flying or boating parts to them. Why? Because those are new features. You're racing old-school.

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*** This could also be one of Ralph's "game-jumping" adventures.
* I was playing the classic cup in ''Transofrmed'', and I noticed that none of the tracks in the cup have any flying or boating parts to them. Why? Because those are new features. You're racing old-school.
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*** This could also be one of Ralph's "game-jumping" adventures.

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*** This could also be one of Ralph's "game-jumping" adventures.adventures.
* I was playing the classic cup in ''Transofrmed'', and I noticed that none of the tracks in the cup have any flying or boating parts to them. Why? Because those are new features. You're racing old-school.
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*** Mii and the Avatar are both additional characters that allow you to race as yourself, and not necessarily franchise characters. Rareware is now owned by Microsoft and was specifically asked to be put into the game.
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*** Except that the first Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing also had Mii, Avatar and Banjo-Kazooie.
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** Likely because of the non-Sega characters joining in, like [[WreckItRalph Ralph]] and [[VideoGame/TeamFortress2 The Spy/Heavy/Pyro]].

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