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* Why is there a Bigweld Balloon? Bigweld is a real character within the show. It's equivalent to seeing like an actor balloon in [[UsefulNotes/{{MacysThanksgivingDayParade}} Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade]]. The only exceptions would be [[Franchise/{{PowerRangers}} Red Ranger]] and [[UsefulNotes/{{McDonalds}} Ronald McDonald]] because they are fictional live action portrayal. Bigweld, in-universe, isn't a live-action portrayal.
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*** Offscreen precision calculation. They're robots. They can do the maths to make sure none collide. [[WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda There are no coincidences]] - everything was calculated with extreme precision before a single ball was launched.

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*** Offscreen precision calculation. They're robots. They can do the maths to make sure none collide. [[WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda [[WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda1 There are no coincidences]] - everything was calculated with extreme precision before a single ball was launched.
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** It's subtle but the movie does mention that the outmodes that are actually turned into scrap are being repurposed into the new models--the shop keeper hints that the main cast can become "something else," and the ingots that come out of the chop shop are bright silver, like the new models. Also, the movie does ''not'' conclusively state how many robots are outmodes. There's a lot of them shown coming to be fixed, but, presumably, there's a whole lot more of them who don't need to be repaired and simply don't show up. Even if the ratios ''did'' approach 10/90%. Ratchet could, conceivably, just make more shiny robots (and thereby renew the customer base) with the outmode scrap.

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** It's subtle but the movie does mention that the outmodes that are actually turned into scrap are being repurposed into the new models--the shop keeper hints that the main cast can become "something else," and the ingots that come out of the chop shop are bright silver, like the new models. Also, the movie does ''not'' conclusively state how many robots are outmodes. There's a lot of them shown coming to be fixed, but, presumably, there's a whole lot more of them who don't need to be repaired and simply don't show up. Even if the ratios ''did'' approach 10/90%. 10/90%, Ratchet could, conceivably, just make more shiny robots (and thereby renew the customer base) with the outmode scrap.
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*** So Ratchet's plan is to use the company's money to make more customers so they gave give him more money? How is that profitable?

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*** So Ratchet's plan is to use the company's money to make more customers so they gave give him more money? How is that profitable?
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** Watching any other kids' movies? -- [[WesternAnimation/{{Up}} That's not enough balloons to lift a house!]] [[Franchise/{{Shrek}} How are the dragon and the donkey able to have babies?]] [[WesternAnimation/DespicableMe How does the Shrink Ray not violate the Law of Conservation of Mass?]] [[WesternAnimation/WallE How is the robot still working after 700 YEARS!?!?!]] It's a ''kid's fantasy movie''. Just apply some WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief, repeat the MST3KMantra and calm down. As long as the universe follows the rules it has set for itself (which ''Robots'' does) other violations of reality are acceptable.

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** Watching any other kids' movies? -- [[WesternAnimation/{{Up}} That's not enough balloons to lift a house!]] [[Franchise/{{Shrek}} How are the dragon and the donkey able to have babies?]] [[WesternAnimation/DespicableMe [[WesternAnimation/DespicableMe1 How does the Shrink Ray not violate the Law of Conservation of Mass?]] [[WesternAnimation/WallE How is the robot still working after 700 YEARS!?!?!]] It's a ''kid's fantasy movie''. Just apply some WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief, repeat the MST3KMantra and calm down. As long as the universe follows the rules it has set for itself (which ''Robots'' does) other violations of reality are acceptable.
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** Watching any other kids' movies? -- [[WesternAnimation/{{Up}} That's not enough balloons to lift a house!]] [[WesternAnimation/{{Shrek}} How are the dragon and the donkey able to have babies?]] [[WesternAnimation/DespicableMe How does the Shrink Ray not violate the Law of Conservation of Mass?]] [[WesternAnimation/WallE How is the robot still working after 700 YEARS!?!?!]] It's a ''kid's fantasy movie''. Just apply some WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief, repeat the MST3KMantra and calm down. As long as the universe follows the rules it has set for itself (which ''Robots'' does) other violations of reality are acceptable.

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** Watching any other kids' movies? -- [[WesternAnimation/{{Up}} That's not enough balloons to lift a house!]] [[WesternAnimation/{{Shrek}} [[Franchise/{{Shrek}} How are the dragon and the donkey able to have babies?]] [[WesternAnimation/DespicableMe How does the Shrink Ray not violate the Law of Conservation of Mass?]] [[WesternAnimation/WallE How is the robot still working after 700 YEARS!?!?!]] It's a ''kid's fantasy movie''. Just apply some WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief, repeat the MST3KMantra and calm down. As long as the universe follows the rules it has set for itself (which ''Robots'' does) other violations of reality are acceptable.
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** A frightening number of wealthy Americans [[TruthInTelevision have similar views]] and are quite public about them, but let's [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment leave it at that]].

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** A frightening number of wealthy Americans [[TruthInTelevision have similar views]] and are quite public about them, but let's [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment leave it at that]].
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** The dog don't urinate.....but it can "do oil change" (as we saw in the movie , that's basically the equipment of our "number 1 and/or 2") And the dog maybe just don't want to got it's "oil plug"....well , "fixed".

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** The dog don't urinate.....but it can "do oil change" (as we saw in the movie , that's basically the equipment of our "number 1 and/or 2") And the dog maybe just don't want to got it's "oil plug"....well , "fixed".

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** Dude I hope you don't plan on watching any other kids' movies anytime soon -- [[WesternAnimation/{{Up}} That's not enough balloons to lift a house!]] [[WesternAnimation/{{Shrek}} How are the dragon and the donkey able to have babies?]] [[WesternAnimation/DespicableMe How does the Shrink Ray not violate the Law of Conservation of Mass?]] [[WesternAnimation/WallE How is the robot still working after 700 YEARS!?!?!]] It's a ''kid's fantasy movie''. Just apply some WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief, repeat the MST3KMantra and calm down. As long as the universe follows the rules it has set for itself (which ''Robots'' does) other violations of reality are acceptable.
*** Um, he has every right to question the more "unusual/puzzling" aspects of kids' movies. That's what Headscratchers is all about. Just because there's a WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief doesn't mean someone isn't going to stop and say "Wait, this doesn't make any sense!" even within the context of the movies' set "rules". The MST3KMantra can only go so far before people are going to ask things like- [[WesternAnimation/{{Robots}} "What happens if all the robots start to break down (IE: Who or what fixes them)?"]], [[Franchise/{{Godzilla}} "Where on earth did Baby Godzilla come from?"]], and the like. People nitpick movies. It's just something they do. Why? Who knows? Who cares? If someone wants to question the logic of a kids' movie, that's their right to do so. Does it make the movie any more or less enjoyable if you nitpick it? No, of course not. You can ''still'' enjoy a movie and still go "What the hell were they thinking?" at certain less-than-logical moments.
*** If the "less than logical moment" is that "Those aren't ''real'' robots!" in a stylized children's movie, then no, it's not a valid headscratcher. That's like going into other Disney movies and saying "Animals don't talk and aren't sentient!" It's not having a nitpick, it's being... I don't even know a proper word for it, but at that point I think it's fair to respond with "You know, maybe this whole 'fiction' thing isn't for you, stick to documentaries."

# Just because they look like ball-and-socket joints doesn't mean they are. They could have internal motors that allow them to move. In fact, there would ''have'' to be some kind of opening, in order to make room for the wires[[note]]I'm assuming they use wires as "nerves"[[/note]] to reach their extremities.

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* [[WikiMagic So get on with the WMGing/explaining already]]! At least some (and possibly many) people would like to read it. And just so you know next time, it's bad form (and could be confused for {{AstroTurf}}ing) to format the text the way it was originally done, separating a single entry with new lines each sentence and multiple layers of asterisks. I do apologize if the reformatting changed the meaning of anything you said in the process of making it more clear and conforming it to wiki markup standards and format.
** Dude I hope you don't plan on watching Watching any other kids' movies anytime soon movies? -- [[WesternAnimation/{{Up}} That's not enough balloons to lift a house!]] [[WesternAnimation/{{Shrek}} How are the dragon and the donkey able to have babies?]] [[WesternAnimation/DespicableMe How does the Shrink Ray not violate the Law of Conservation of Mass?]] [[WesternAnimation/WallE How is the robot still working after 700 YEARS!?!?!]] It's a ''kid's fantasy movie''. Just apply some WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief, repeat the MST3KMantra and calm down. As long as the universe follows the rules it has set for itself (which ''Robots'' does) other violations of reality are acceptable.
*** Um, he has every right to question Questioning the more "unusual/puzzling" aspects of kids' movies. That's movies is what Headscratchers is all about. Just because there's a WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief doesn't mean someone isn't going to stop and say "Wait, this doesn't make any sense!" even within the context of the movies' set "rules". The MST3KMantra can only go so far before people are going to ask things like- [[WesternAnimation/{{Robots}} "What happens if all the robots start to break down (IE: Who or what fixes them)?"]], [[Franchise/{{Godzilla}} "Where on earth did Baby Godzilla come from?"]], and the like. People nitpick movies. It's just something they do. Why? Who knows? Who cares? If someone wants to question the logic of a kids' movie, that's their right to do so. Does it make the movie any more or less enjoyable if you nitpick it? No, of course not. You can ''still'' enjoy a movie and still go "What the hell were they thinking?" at certain less-than-logical moments.
*** If the "less than logical moment" is that "Those aren't ''real'' robots!" in a stylized children's movie, then no, it's not a valid headscratcher. That's like going into other Disney movies and saying "Animals don't talk and aren't sentient!" It's not having a nitpick, it's being... I don't even know a proper word for it, but at that point I think it's fair to respond with "You know, maybe this whole 'fiction' thing isn't for you, stick to documentaries."

# Just because they look like ball-and-socket joints doesn't mean they are. They could have internal motors that allow them to move. In fact, there would ''have'' to be some kind of opening, in order to make room for the wires[[note]]I'm assuming wires[[note]]Assuming that they use wires as "nerves"[[/note]] to reach their extremities.
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When [[RobotDog the dog]] looks at a sentient fire hydrant, the hydrant says, "Don't even think about it". Um.... think about what? It's a ''robot'' dog and while maybe robot DogsLoveFireHydrants too, they can't love them for the [[UrineTrouble traditional]] reason, simply because they don't urinate. And why does the dog [[AnimalsFearNeutering hide away upon hearing, "Who wants to get fixed?"]]? I don't think robots ''can'' be neutered as we ''see'' how they reproduce in the intro.

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When [[RobotDog the dog]] looks at a sentient fire hydrant, the hydrant says, "Don't even think about it". Um.... think about what? It's a ''robot'' dog and while maybe robot DogsLoveFireHydrants too, they can't love them for the [[UrineTrouble traditional]] reason, simply because they don't urinate. And why does the dog [[AnimalsFearNeutering hide away upon hearing, "Who wants to get fixed?"]]? I don't think robots ''can'' be neutered as we ''see'' how they reproduce in the intro.intro.
** The dog don't urinate.....but it can "do oil change" (as we saw in the movie , that's basically the equipment of our "number 1 and/or 2") And the dog maybe just don't want to got it's "oil plug"....well , "fixed".
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*** Um, he has every right to question the more "unusual/puzzling" aspects of kids' movies. That's what Headscratchers is all about. Just becuase there's a WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief doesn't mean someone isn't going to stop and say "Wait, this doesn't make any sense!" even within the context of the movies' set "rules". The MST3KMantra can only go so far before people are going to ask things like- [[WesternAnimation/{{Robots}} "What happens if all the robots start to break down (IE: Who or what fixes them)?"]], [[Franchise/{{Godzilla}} "Where on earth did Baby Godzilla come from?"]], and the like. People nitpick movies. It's just something they do. Why? Who knows? Who cares? If someone wants to question the logic of a kids' movie, that's their right to do so. Does it make the movie any more or less enjoyable if you nitpick it? No, of course not. You can ''still'' enjoy a movie and still go "What the hell were they thinking?" at certain less-than-logical moments.

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*** Um, he has every right to question the more "unusual/puzzling" aspects of kids' movies. That's what Headscratchers is all about. Just becuase because there's a WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief doesn't mean someone isn't going to stop and say "Wait, this doesn't make any sense!" even within the context of the movies' set "rules". The MST3KMantra can only go so far before people are going to ask things like- [[WesternAnimation/{{Robots}} "What happens if all the robots start to break down (IE: Who or what fixes them)?"]], [[Franchise/{{Godzilla}} "Where on earth did Baby Godzilla come from?"]], and the like. People nitpick movies. It's just something they do. Why? Who knows? Who cares? If someone wants to question the logic of a kids' movie, that's their right to do so. Does it make the movie any more or less enjoyable if you nitpick it? No, of course not. You can ''still'' enjoy a movie and still go "What the hell were they thinking?" at certain less-than-logical moments.
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** A frightening number of wealthy Americans [[TruthInTelevision have similar views]] and are quite public about them, but let's [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment leave it at that]].

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** A frightening number of wealthy Americans [[TruthInTelevision have similar views]] and are quite public about them, but let's [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment leave it at that]].
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** A frightening number of wealthy Americans [[TruthInTelevision have similar views]] and are quite public about them, but let's [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment leave it at that]].
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** One of the commentaries on the DVD reveals that there was a short scene that would have shown the aftermath of Fender escaping the Chop Shop. He would end up in a dumpster, tangled in ribbons. Even though the scene was cut, the animators left the ribbons on Fender's head.

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** One of the commentaries on the DVD reveals that there was a short scene that would have shown the aftermath of Fender escaping the Chop Shop. He would end up in a dumpster, tangled in ribbons. Even though the scene was cut, the animators left the ribbons on Fender's head.head.

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When [[RobotDog the dog]] looks at a sentient fire hydrant, the hydrant says, "Don't even think about it". Um.... think about what? It's a ''robot'' dog and while maybe robot DogsLoveFireHydrants too, they can't love them for the [[UrineTrouble traditional]] reason, simply because they don't urinate. And why does the dog [[AnimalsFearNeutering hide away upon hearing, "Who wants to get fixed?"]]? I don't think robots ''can'' be neutered as we ''see'' how they reproduce in the intro.

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Last night I decided to watch and [[DeadpanSnarker snark]] at WesternAnimation/{{Robots}}, I regret this decision.
For one, how the fuck is this world even possible, how do these things ''work''? I know maybe I should repeat the [[MST3KMantra mantra]] but it just bugs me.

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Last night I decided to watch and [[DeadpanSnarker snark]] at WesternAnimation/{{Robots}}, I regret this decision.
decision. For one, how the fuck is this world even possible, how do these things ''work''? I know maybe I should repeat the [[MST3KMantra mantra]] but it just bugs me.



* [[WikiMagic So get on with the WMGing/explaining already]]! At least some (and possibly many) people would like to read it. And just so you know next time, it's bad form (and could be confused for {{Astroturfing}}) to format the text the way it was originally done, separating a single entry with new lines each sentence and multiple layers of asterisks. I do apologize if the reformatting changed the meaning of anything you said in the process of making it more clear and conforming it to wiki markup standards and format.

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* [[WikiMagic So get on with the WMGing/explaining already]]! At least some (and possibly many) people would like to read it. And just so you know next time, it's bad form (and could be confused for {{Astroturfing}}) {{AstroTurf}}ing) to format the text the way it was originally done, separating a single entry with new lines each sentence and multiple layers of asterisks. I do apologize if the reformatting changed the meaning of anything you said in the process of making it more clear and conforming it to wiki markup standards and format.
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*** Um, he has every right to question the more "unusual/puzzling" aspects of kids' movies. That's what ItJustBugsMe is all about. Just becuase there's a WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief doesn't mean someone isn't going to stop and say "Wait, this doesn't make any sense!" even within the context of the movies' set "rules". The MST3KMantra can only go so far before people are going to ask things like- [[WesternAnimation/{{Robots}} "What happens if all the robots start to break down (IE: Who or what fixes them)?"]], [[Franchise/{{Godzilla}} "Where on earth did Baby Godzilla come from?"]], and the like. People nitpick movies. It's just something they do. Why? Who knows? Who cares? If someone wants to question the logic of a kids' movie, that's their right to do so. Does it make the movie any more or less enjoyable if you nitpick it? No, of course not. You can ''still'' enjoy a movie and still go "What the hell were they thinking?" at certain less-than-logical moments.

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*** Um, he has every right to question the more "unusual/puzzling" aspects of kids' movies. That's what ItJustBugsMe Headscratchers is all about. Just becuase there's a WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief doesn't mean someone isn't going to stop and say "Wait, this doesn't make any sense!" even within the context of the movies' set "rules". The MST3KMantra can only go so far before people are going to ask things like- [[WesternAnimation/{{Robots}} "What happens if all the robots start to break down (IE: Who or what fixes them)?"]], [[Franchise/{{Godzilla}} "Where on earth did Baby Godzilla come from?"]], and the like. People nitpick movies. It's just something they do. Why? Who knows? Who cares? If someone wants to question the logic of a kids' movie, that's their right to do so. Does it make the movie any more or less enjoyable if you nitpick it? No, of course not. You can ''still'' enjoy a movie and still go "What the hell were they thinking?" at certain less-than-logical moments.
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** You have to remember that it's Ratchet's ''mom'' who runs the junkyard. What is almost certainly happening is that this is all a part of his mother's scheme to make their family rich and powerful, damn everyone else; even if 90% of every Robot in the world is outmoded and scrapped, that still means that 10% is wealthy enough to purchase upgrades, which would be made from scrap that almost certainly comes from her junkyard (at least for the main city). So not only is the Company run by Ratchet going to be sucking the wealth from the richest 10%, but then Ratchet's Mom is going to be sucking money from her Sons company through special Contracts that make her the main Scrap Dealer for a high price (and money laundering will also probably be occurring all the time).
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** I always thought that they came from the spring he had to escape from.

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** I always thought that they came from the spring he had to escape from.from.
** One of the commentaries on the DVD reveals that there was a short scene that would have shown the aftermath of Fender escaping the Chop Shop. He would end up in a dumpster, tangled in ribbons. Even though the scene was cut, the animators left the ribbons on Fender's head.
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* I agree with the second to last troper above me. Technically, Bigweld wasn't removed from power in any way, he was just out of the picture for reasons nobody knew, and it's actually mentioned a few times that he could come back if he wanted to, which was why Madame Gasket was so adamant that Ratchet finish him off once and for all. When Rodney finally confronts Bigweld over the situation, the latter mentions that he had done this on purpose, as Ratchet's profit-making ideals have made him feel old-fashioned, leaving him feeling that he is worthy of running the company anymore. To sum it up, Bigweld was in a major HeroicBSOD, and nobody has technically overthrown him at all.

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* I agree with the second to last troper above me. Technically, Bigweld wasn't removed from power in any way, he was just out of the picture for reasons nobody knew, and it's actually mentioned a few times that he could come back if he wanted to, which was why Madame Gasket was so adamant that Ratchet finish him off once and for all. When Rodney finally confronts Bigweld over the situation, the latter mentions that he had done this on purpose, as Ratchet's profit-making ideals have made him feel old-fashioned, leaving him feeling that he is not worthy of running the company anymore. To sum it up, Bigweld was in a major HeroicBSOD, and nobody has technically overthrown him at all.
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* I agree with the second to last troper above me. Technically, Bigweld wasn't removed from power in any way, he was just out of the picture for reasons nobody knew, and it's actually mentioned a few times that he could come back if he wanted to, which was why Madame Gasket was so adamant that Ratchet finish him off once and for all. When Rodney finally confronts Bigweld over the situation, the latter mentions that he had done this on purpose, as Ratchet's profit-making ideals have made him feel old-fashioned, leaving him feeling that he is worthy of running the company anymore. To sum it up, Bigweld was in a major HeroicBSOD, and nobody has technically overthrown him at all.
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# Their arms are seemingly hydraulic pipes mounted on {{Bionicle}}-esque ball joints, how do these ball joints "move"?

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# Their arms are seemingly hydraulic pipes mounted on {{Bionicle}}-esque Toys/{{Bionicle}}-esque ball joints, how do these ball joints "move"?
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* When Fender escapes the Chop Shop, he has just replaced his missing lower-half with that of a female robot. Okay. When Rodney and the others meet him at the train station later, he suddenly has ribbons on his head and crank. Where did he get those, and why is he wearing them?

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* When Fender escapes the Chop Shop, he has just replaced his missing lower-half with that of a female robot. Okay. When Rodney and the others meet him at the train station later, he suddenly has ribbons on his head and crank. Where did he get those, and why is he wearing them?them?
** I always thought that they came from the spring he had to escape from.
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* Ratchet, then still not in the full administrative position but still with considerable sway and power, convinced most of the board members that Bigweld would eventually run the company into the ground with his outmoded ways. With the board members not angry at but at least not supporting Bigweld as much in his decisions anymore, he was effectively driven from his position by himself when he chose to take a perpetually extended vacation and leave things in the hands of Ratchet. His courage faded considerably over the years as Ratchet revealed the Chop Shop and began his campaign to eliminate outmodes from society. The board members are now wishing they'd never sided with Ratchet in the first place, and can't change their minds out of fear of being sent to the Chop Shop at a moment's notice.

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* Ratchet, then still not in the full administrative position but still with considerable sway and power, convinced most of the board members that Bigweld would eventually run the company into the ground with his outmoded ways. With the board members not angry at but at least not supporting Bigweld as much in his decisions anymore, he was effectively driven from his position by himself when he chose to take a perpetually extended vacation and leave things in the hands of Ratchet. His courage faded considerably over the years as Ratchet revealed the Chop Shop and began his campaign to eliminate outmodes from society. The board members are now wishing they'd never sided with Ratchet in the first place, and can't change their minds out of fear of being sent to the Chop Shop at a moment's notice.notice.
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* When Fender escapes the Chop Shop, he has just replaced his missing lower-half with that of a female robot. Okay. When Rodney and the others meet him at the train station later, he suddenly has ribbons on his head and crank. Where did he get those, and why is he wearing them?
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* I always assumed Bigweld was 'on vacation', with Ratchet being the second-in-command when he left. Technically, Brooksweld... sorry, Bigweld is still Head Honcho, but it's Ratchet who runs the game. "He beat me" could mean in spirit, reducing the big guy's morale to nothing and pushing him into a HeroicBSOD, no pun intended.

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* I always assumed Bigweld was 'on vacation', with Ratchet being the second-in-command when he left. Technically, Brooksweld... sorry, Bigweld is still Head Honcho, but it's Ratchet who runs the game. "He beat me" could mean in spirit, reducing the big guy's morale to nothing and pushing him into a HeroicBSOD, no pun intended.intended.
* Ratchet, then still not in the full administrative position but still with considerable sway and power, convinced most of the board members that Bigweld would eventually run the company into the ground with his outmoded ways. With the board members not angry at but at least not supporting Bigweld as much in his decisions anymore, he was effectively driven from his position by himself when he chose to take a perpetually extended vacation and leave things in the hands of Ratchet. His courage faded considerably over the years as Ratchet revealed the Chop Shop and began his campaign to eliminate outmodes from society. The board members are now wishing they'd never sided with Ratchet in the first place, and can't change their minds out of fear of being sent to the Chop Shop at a moment's notice.

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