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*** [[TheWikiRule Bulbapedia]] specifically states that Snagem was a small-time petty crime organization before Cipher came.

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*** [[TheWikiRule Bulbapedia]] Bulbapedia specifically states that Snagem was a small-time petty crime organization before Cipher came.
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** As for XD, only two non-Cipher people have Shadow Pokémon; One decides that it was too weak and doesn't care that you stole it, and the other spends the rest of the game looking for his missing Shadow Ledyba, [[WhatAnIdiot thinking it was "cool" how it "almost" looked as though you took it]]... As for Colosseum, I don't know. The Retelling Of Pokémon Colosseum addressed this problem [[LaserGuidedAmnesia humorously]].

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** As for XD, only two non-Cipher people have Shadow Pokémon; One decides that it was too weak and doesn't care that you stole it, and the other spends the rest of the game looking for his missing Shadow Ledyba, [[WhatAnIdiot thinking it was "cool" how it "almost" looked as though you took it]]...it... As for Colosseum, I don't know. The Retelling Of Pokémon Colosseum addressed this problem [[LaserGuidedAmnesia humorously]].



** There IS a member of Cipher who has a hideout in Phenac. [[spoiler: Evice.]] Notice that when you first reach Phenac, Bluno, Verde, Rosso, [[spoiler: Nascour and Evice]] are all present. Presumably, one of them (likely one of the color trio) was supposed to collect Rui from Folly and Trudly and take her elsewhere (Ein's lab, if I had a guess). After all, they are NOT high enough rank to know where that is.
*** That occurred to me, but why would they take her directly to [[spoiler: THE HEAD OF CIPHER'S]] hideout? Especially when said "hideout" [[spoiler: is the house of the mayor of]] a city where two people dressed the way Trudly and Folly are, carrying [[BagOfKidnapping a huge sack]] through town are a lot more likely to be questioned. If they weren't high enough ranked to know the location of the Shadow Pokémon Lab, they certainly wouldn't be a high enough rank to know [[spoiler: that their leader was the mayor of Phenac.]]

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** There IS a member of Cipher who has a hideout in Phenac. [[spoiler: Evice.]] Evice. Notice that when you first reach Phenac, Bluno, Verde, Rosso, [[spoiler: Nascour and Evice]] Evice himself are all present. Presumably, one of them (likely one of the color trio) was supposed to collect Rui from Folly and Trudly and take her elsewhere (Ein's lab, if I had a guess). After all, they are NOT high enough rank to know where that is.
*** That occurred to me, but why would they take her directly to [[spoiler: THE HEAD OF CIPHER'S]] CIPHER'S hideout? Especially when said "hideout" [[spoiler: is the house of the mayor of]] of a city where two people dressed the way Trudly and Folly are, carrying [[BagOfKidnapping a huge sack]] through town are a lot more likely to be questioned. If they weren't high enough ranked to know the location of the Shadow Pokémon Lab, they certainly wouldn't be a high enough rank to know [[spoiler: that their leader was the mayor of Phenac.]]
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* What happens to the previous pokeball of a shadow pokemon that gets snagged? Does it get confused because the registered Pokemon no longer is there to go back to it?

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* What happens to the previous pokeball of a shadow pokemon that gets snagged? Does it get confused because the registered Pokemon no longer is there to go back to it?it?
** Considering that Pokeballs are implied to be discarded when you release Pokemon in the main series games, they probably just become non-functional.
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** What happens to the previous pokeball of a shadow pokemon that gets snagged? Does it get confused because the registered Pokemon no longer is there to go back to it?

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** What *What happens to the previous pokeball of a shadow pokemon that gets snagged? Does it get confused because the registered Pokemon no longer is there to go back to it?
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** She has really bad eyesight and her contacts have a severe magnifying effect?

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** She has really bad eyesight and her contacts have a severe magnifying effect?effect?
** What happens to the previous pokeball of a shadow pokemon that gets snagged? Does it get confused because the registered Pokemon no longer is there to go back to it?
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** Nurses are still needed to instruct people in using the machines and do maintenance, or call in a repair crew if something goes wrong. Possibly they also do non-critical checkups on pokemon, help treat more long-term illnesses than injuries in battle, and give health advice, much like real nurses or veterinary nurses and this just isn't shown in game. As for Orre, not sure - maybe there's a nurse shortage?
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** The Snag Machine that Wes stole is specifically designed to steal any Pokemon. Rui, who can see the aura coming off a Shadow Pokemon, will yell at you and block you from trying to snag Non-Shadow Pokemon. The modified version in XD has a trigger that only allows to function on Shadow Pokemon so it can't be abused if stolen. This still begs the question as to why Rui doesn't let you steal all of a bad guy's pokemon, example being the leader of Cipher, instead only allowing you to take his Shadow Tyranitar. XD at least makes all of the main antagonist's pokemon in the sequel Shadow Pokemon so you can steal his entire roster.
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** About the Poké Ball thing, most of the people are given their Shadow Pokémon by Cipher, meaning Cipher probably gave them the Poké Ball it was contained in, and when you Snag them, it transfers them to a fresh one. It's totally possible that Team Cipher tampered with the Poké Balls to do as mentioned before.

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** About the Poké Ball thing, most of the people are given their Shadow Pokémon by Cipher, meaning Cipher probably gave them the Poké Ball it was contained in, and when you Snag them, it transfers them to a fresh one. It's totally possible that Team Cipher tampered with the Poké Balls to do as mentioned before.
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* What's the deal with Rui's eyes and their disproportionately huge irises?

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* What's the deal with Rui's eyes and their disproportionately huge irises?irises?
**She has really bad eyesight and her contacts have a severe magnifying effect?
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** Or, Orre was never meant to be in the main timeline to begin with.

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** That was never stated that to be the case, and would be pointless for the Snag Machine to exist at all (and for Wes to steal it) before Shadow Pokémon started appearing in Orre.

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** That was never stated that to be the case, and would be pointless for the Snag Machine to exist at all (and for Wes to steal it) before when most people can't see Shadow Pokémon started appearing in Orre.(they look like normal Pokémon to them), and for Wes to steal it before meeting Rui and learning about them.
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** Outside of the main timeline (just like most Pokémon spin-offs), maybe?
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++ Probably because the Snag Machine only works on Shadow Pokémon specifically. As seen a bunch of times in the anime, if a Pokémon is abused by its trainer, then they can simply leave its trainer.

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++ ** Probably because the Snag Machine only works on Shadow Pokémon specifically. As seen a bunch of times in the anime, if a Pokémon is abused by its trainer, then they can simply leave its trainer.trainer.
** That was never stated that to be the case, and would be pointless for the Snag Machine to exist at all (and for Wes to steal it) before Shadow Pokémon started appearing in Orre.



** So you can learn Octillery's unique move Octazooka when it evolves at level 25?

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** So you can learn Octillery's unique move Octazooka when it evolves at level 25?25?
* What's the deal with Rui's eyes and their disproportionately huge irises?
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** Orre does not have any native Pokémon, and thus imports them from Hoenn and Kanto. There probably ARE a select few native Pokémon in the game, like the Cacturne-Expy, but then again, [[CaptainObvious the Unova Pokémon didn't exist yet.]]

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** Orre does not have any native Pokémon, and thus imports them from Hoenn and Kanto. There probably ARE a select few native Pokémon in the game, like the Cacturne-Expy, but then again, [[CaptainObvious the Unova Pokémon didn't exist yet.]]

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