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*** And yet I believe that the difference it will make is not ''that'' big actually. Because she seems to be open-minded enough to sincerely love Phil even if she thinks he's a little bit of Cloudcuckoolander or in whichever way she explains to herself what happened and what's up with him.
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** Also, he's told her what's happening by this point. Remember at the party:
--->'''Rita:''' No, there is something going on with you.\\
'''Phil:''' Do you want the short version or the long one?\\
'''Rita:''' Let's start with the short and go from there.
*** More precisely, he ''intended'' to tell her. Whether he actually did (or, if he did, whether she took it in any serious way) is up for debate, since on February 3 she doesn't show any signs of having been told about Phil's predicament.
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'''Phil:''' Do you want the short version or the long one?\\
'''Rita:''' Let's start with the short and go from there.
*** More precisely, he ''intended'' to tell her. Whether he actually did (or, if he did, whether she took it in any serious way) is up for debate, since on February 3 she doesn't show any signs of having been told about Phil's predicament.
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'''Phil:''' Do you want the short version or the long one?\\
'''Rita:''' Let's start with the short and go from there.
*** More precisely, he ''intended'' to tell her. Whether he actually did (or, if he did, whether she took it in any serious way) is up for debate, since on February 3 she doesn't show any signs of having been told about Phil's predicament.
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** He intended to. Remember at the party:
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'''Phil:''' Do you want the short version or the long one?\\
'''Rita:''' Let's start with the short and go from there.
** But whether he actually did (or, if he did, whether she took it in any serious way) is up for debate. On February 3 she doesn't show any signs of having been told about Phil's predicament. And then she says that he fell asleep as soon as they came back to the hotel, remember? My guess is that it was because of this that he didn't proceed far with the explanation.
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'''Phil:''' Do you want the short version or the long one?\\
'''Rita:''' Let's start with the short and go from there.
** But whether he actually did (or, if he did, whether she took it in any serious way) is up for debate. On February 3 she doesn't show any signs of having been told about Phil's predicament. And then she says that he fell asleep as soon as they came back to the hotel, remember? My guess is that it was because of this that he didn't proceed far with the explanation.
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*** He didn't do anything supernatural, after all. The skills he demonstrated are those that he really had acquired in the process. (And he didn't have to become a doctor - the only thing we see him actually doing is a rather simple Heimlich maneuver.) Nor does he claim to have done anything extraordinary at any point. And to the Punxsutawney dwellers it was just a single day, whose effect might wearr off pretty quickly even in a small town like that. I can actually imagine Phil being interviewed by the local newspaper and telling them something along the lines "Oh, I just had a very lucky day - nothing more, really." So I don't actually think that they would heap any unrealistic expectations on him - not for a long time, at least. \\
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*** He didn't do anything supernatural, after all. The skills he demonstrated are those that he really had acquired in the process. (And he didn't have to become a doctor - the only thing we see him actually doing is a rather simple Heimlich maneuver.) Nor does he claim to have done anything extraordinary at any point. And to the Punxsutawney dwellers it was just a single day, whose effect might wearr off pretty quickly even in a small town like that. I can actually imagine Phil being interviewed by the local newspaper and telling them something along the lines "Oh, I just had a very lucky day - nothing more, really." So I don't actually think that they would heap any unrealistic expectations on him - not for a long time, at least.or even if they do, it's unlikely to last long. \\
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*** Yeah, but the people of Punxsutawney have heightened expectations of him he wouldn't have to live up to had he decided to go home. Phil the savior, doctor, philanthropist ... both of them have to quit their jobs, so he's not going to be able to afford Wrestlemania tickets and dinners for the homeless. At least he still has his music and ice sculpting. \\
*** He didn't do anything supernatural, after all. The skills he demonstrated are those that he really had acquired in the process. (And he didn't have to become a doctor - the only thing we see him actually doing is a rather simple Heimlich maneuver.) Nor does he claim to have done anything extraordinary at any point. And to the Punxsutawney dwellers it was just a single day, whose effect might wearr off pretty quickly even in a small town like that. I can actually imagine Phil being interviewed by the local newspaper and telling them something along the lines "Oh, I just had a very lucky day - nothing more, really." So I don't actually think that they would heap any unrealistic expectations on him - not for a long time, at least.
*** He didn't do anything supernatural, after all. The skills he demonstrated are those that he really had acquired in the process. (And he didn't have to become a doctor - the only thing we see him actually doing is a rather simple Heimlich maneuver.) Nor does he claim to have done anything extraordinary at any point. And to the Punxsutawney dwellers it was just a single day, whose effect might wearr off pretty quickly even in a small town like that. I can actually imagine Phil being interviewed by the local newspaper and telling them something along the lines "Oh, I just had a very lucky day - nothing more, really." So I don't actually think that they would heap any unrealistic expectations on him - not for a long time, at least.
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*** Yeah, but the people of Punxsutawney have heightened expectations of him he wouldn't have to live up to had he decided to go home. Phil the savior, doctor, philanthropist ... both of them have to quit their jobs, so he's not going to be able to afford Wrestlemania tickets and dinners for the homeless. At least he still has his music and ice sculpting. \\
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**** He didn't do anything supernatural, after all. The skills he demonstrated are those that he really had acquired in the process. (And he didn't have to become a doctor - the only thing we see him actually doing is a rather simple Heimlich maneuver.) Nor does he claim to have done anything extraordinary at any point. And to the Punxsutawney dwellers it was just a single day, whose effect might wearr off pretty quickly even in a small town like that. I can actually imagine Phil being interviewed by the local newspaper and telling them something along the lines "Oh, I just had a very lucky day - nothing more, really." So I don't actually think that they would heap any unrealistic expectations on him - not for a long time, atleast.
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**** He didn't do anything supernatural, after all. The skills he demonstrated are those that he really had acquired in the process. (And he didn't have to become a doctor - the only thing we see him actually doing is a rather simple Heimlich maneuver.) Nor does he claim to have done anything extraordinary at any point. And to the Punxsutawney dwellers it was just a single day, whose effect might wearr off pretty quickly even in a small town like that. I can actually imagine Phil being interviewed by the local newspaper and telling them something along the lines "Oh, I just had a very lucky day - nothing more, really." So I don't actually think that they would heap any unrealistic expectations on him - not for a long time, at
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**** He didn't do anything supernatural, after all. The skills he demonstrated are those that he really had acquired in the process. (And he didn't have to become a doctor - the only thing we see him actually doing is a rather simple Heimlich maneuver.) Nor does he claim to have done anything extraordinary at any point. And to the Punxsutawney dwellers it was just a single day, whose effect might wearr off pretty quickly even in a small town like that. I can actually imagine Phil being interviewed by the local newspaper and telling them something along the lines "Oh, I just had a very lucky day - nothing more, really." So I don't actually think that they would heap any unrealistic expectations on him - not for a long time, at least.
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** Early draft had it from a gypsy [[Main/CursedWithAwesome curse]]; a second one had it [[http://www.cracked.com/article_19138_7-hotly-debated-movie-questions-that-totally-have-answers.html from an ex-girlfriend]]. The filmmakers thought that sounded stupid, so they cut it out. As for why it ended? The whole point of the movie was that he had to stop being such a self-absorbed jerk.
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** Early draft had it from a gypsy [[Main/CursedWithAwesome curse]]; a second one had it [[http://www.cracked.com/article_19138_7-hotly-debated-movie-questions-that-totally-have-answers.html from an ex-girlfriend]]. The filmmakers thought that sounded stupid, so they cut it out. As for why it ended? The whole point of the movie was that he had to stop being such a self-absorbed jerk.
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*** And we also have a scene where the other characters are examining his corpse, so they function outside of his cognition.
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** So is it just a big coincidence that Ned Ryerson happened to move to Punxsutawney? The attraction of the "Ned Ryerson is Satan tricking Phil into signing a deal with the Devil" theory is it explains why "Ryerson" would be there.
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* Do we know that Phil told Rita about his secret on the last night? Because that makes a big difference to their relationship going forward. He was about to, but then got interrupted. And her behavior around the loop time is rather casual.
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** FridgeBrilliance is that this may be the exact reason why Phil decides to stay in Punxsutawney. Sure, he won't know exactly what will be happening next, but he's got an ''enormous'' load of information on virtually every denizen of the city, its inner workings, etc, which are highly unlikely to change overnight. And that is a smooth transition from the omniscience in the past to the frightening total ignorance in the future. \\
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** FridgeBrilliance is that this may be the exact reason why Phil decides to stay in Punxsutawney. Sure, he won't know exactly what will be happening next, but he's got an ''enormous'' load of information on virtually every denizen of the city, its inner workings, etc, which are highly unlikely to change overnight. And that is a smooth transition from the omniscience in the past to the frightening total ignorance in the future.
*** Yeah, but the people of Punxsutawney have heightened expectations of him he wouldn't have to live up to had he decided to go home. Phil the savior, doctor, philanthropist ... both of them have to quit their jobs, so he's not going to be able to afford Wrestlemania tickets and dinners for the homeless. At least he still has his music and ice sculpting. \\
*** Yeah, but the people of Punxsutawney have heightened expectations of him he wouldn't have to live up to had he decided to go home. Phil the savior, doctor, philanthropist ... both of them have to quit their jobs, so he's not going to be able to afford Wrestlemania tickets and dinners for the homeless. At least he still has his music and ice sculpting. \\
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**** But that's not how reality works. Just because somebody needs to do something that doesn't mean he can or will do it. And yes, people learn how to cross streets, through a long period of supervision, because if they don't have that long period of suervision they die quickly. Remember Pet Sematary? The obstacles you think people just overcome because they have to, many people do not overcome them. And there's no evidence that Phil will be able to successfully overcome his obstacles without the help of the time loop.
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*** ... until she leaves him because he can't live up to the brilliance of that first day without the assistance of the time loop and their 1-day whirlwind romance fades.
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*** He's not lying to people out of necessity, no, he doesn't have to do anything, that's his situation. And some people would tell you that lying is wrong, even if you rationalize it as being for the greater good. And lying to people to ingratiate yourself with them so you can enjoy their happiness is self-interested, not selfless behavior. And there's no evidence in-story to believe the power engineering this scenario is good. Quite the contrary: to punish Phil for the sin of being a jerk and make him a modestly better person (he's not Einstein or Gandhi at the end of this) the higher power tortures him into insanity so severe and so prolonged that he kills himself over and over again - and the higher power won't even let him escape into death. That's such insane DisproportionateRetribution that if the higher power in question is good the the villain protagonist of the Saw series must be Mother Theresa.
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** Rita seems just the right kind of person to believe what Phil's been through.
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** Rita seems just the right kind of person to believe what Phil's been through.through - or even if not to believe outright, then at least still be nice and supportive regardless.
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** It's a NoodleIncident. It's never explained, just as there's a whole bunch of stuff we see Phil doing that last day that we have no idea how he learned about it; he's been looping the loop for ages by that point, he's almost certainly figured out a way to get wrestling tickets with the resources he has at hand.
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** It's a NoodleIncident. It's never explained, just as there's a whole bunch of stuff we see Phil doing that last day that we have no idea how he learned about it; he's been looping the loop for ages by that point, he's almost certainly figured out a way to get wrestling tickets with the resources he has at hand. It's something that the viewer is meant to guess at.
