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----** Implausible but not impossible. It doesn't happen, don't worry about it!
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*** That is basically what Ryan does when her fire extinguisher runs out of CO2 --she tosses it away to push herself towards the Tiangong. However, she was only a few feet away from it, moving parallel to it, and only needed a slight nudge in a vaguely approaching vector to come within arm's reach (and even then, she almost missed it anyway.) Matt, OTOH, is moving away in a perpendicular vector from the nearest stable structure. Assuming he could have detached the MMU quickly enough, he would have needed the (empty) unit to be massive enough that tossing it away in a ''perfectly parallel'' vector wouldn't just completely counteract his forward motion, it would push him back in an exactly opposite direction. Early MMUs tend to be bulky, but the frame he wore in the movie doesn't seem much different from [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simplified_Aid_for_EVA_Rescue a SAFER module]]. Those are designed to be lightweight and portable. Matt would have had to detach his whole backpack, O2 included, to A: completely counteract his own mass, and never mind B: pushing himself back. It would have been incredibly improbable for him to do A (it's impossible to know his velocity in relation to either Ryan or the ISS) but even then, he would have needed her to anchor herself first, then toss him a line (because waiting for her to get to the Soyuz or even just replenish her own O2 would deplete what little oxygen he had in his suit.) Those are far too many assumptions to make about mass, velocity, and his and Ryan's remaining O2, within the few seconds before he drifted out of range.

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*** That is basically what Ryan does when her fire extinguisher runs out of CO2 [=CO2=] --she tosses it away to push herself towards the Tiangong. However, she was only a few feet away from it, moving parallel to it, and only needed a slight nudge in a vaguely approaching vector to come within arm's reach (and even then, she almost missed it anyway.) Matt, OTOH, is moving away in a perpendicular vector from the nearest stable structure. Assuming he could have detached the MMU quickly enough, he would have needed the (empty) unit to be massive enough that tossing it away in a ''perfectly parallel'' vector wouldn't just completely counteract his forward motion, it would push him back in an exactly opposite direction. Early MMUs [=MMUs=] tend to be bulky, but the frame he wore in the movie doesn't seem much different from [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simplified_Aid_for_EVA_Rescue a SAFER module]]. Those are designed to be lightweight and portable. Matt would have had to detach his whole backpack, O2 included, to A: completely counteract his own mass, and never mind B: pushing himself back. It would have been incredibly improbable for him to do A (it's impossible to know his velocity in relation to either Ryan or the ISS) but even then, he would have needed her to anchor herself first, then toss him a line (because waiting for her to get to the Soyuz or even just replenish her own O2 would deplete what little oxygen he had in his suit.) Those are far too many assumptions to make about mass, velocity, and his and Ryan's remaining O2, within the few seconds before he drifted out of range.



*** Maybe. Kowalski is a veteran astronaut who knows how things move in space. In his judgement his only option to save Ryan was to unteather himself.

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*** Maybe. Kowalski is a veteran astronaut who knows how things move in space. In his judgement his only option to save Ryan was to unteather untether himself.
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*** Fun fact: this is a double flub! All modern Soyuz spacecraft have a single engine system, the KTDU-80, which drives both the main engine and the attitude control ("air jets"). So if the main engine was out of fuel, so should the attitude control engines. Of course, it's also highly unlikely the berthed Soyuz would be left without fuel, either.
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* How does Ryan even survive the second wave of debris that is actually enlarged compared to the first? I know the obvious answer is "because the film would end otherwise, dummy", but from a rational standpoint it really seems implausible and bugs me. She's outside the space station making repairs in a flimsy suit, and a HUGE cloud of razor sharp shrapnel so dense ''she can see it with the naked eye'' is flying straight towards her and the station at hundreds of miles per hour relative to her speed. Said cloud totally annihilates the station and shreds it into even more sharp pieces. Even one slow fragment from the station could pierce her suit, whereas the hail of ''thousands'' of pieces that she can see flying towards her should in reality turn her into red mist. Even the bits she can't physically see would be travelling fast enough to kill her!
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*** Not even remotely- Tiangong-2 has a mass of approximately 8.6 metric tons and at its highest orbit reaches 378.4 km. IfMyCalculationsAreCorrect (which they admittedly may not be), assuming it were to remain completely intact during the descent, that would give it an approximate gravitational potential energy of around 0.032 (rounded) terajoules. For reference, the energy released by the Hiroshima bomb was about 63 TJ, or around 1978 times more than that. Would it suck to be in the immediate vicinity? Yes. Would it cause the apocalypse? Snowball's chance in hell.
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** It doesn't have any. It has, at best, an oxygen feed through the tether. That's what made her ejection from the Soyuz towards Tiangong even ''more'' of a "do or die" than it already was: she only had whatever air was inside the suit, so if she failed to board Tiangong, she'd have suffocated even faster.
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*When Ryan changes over to the Russian space suit, where is its oxygen supply,tanks?
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**** Its not just that they have a doctor changing circut boards on the HST, its also the fact that she doesnt seem all that stable psychologically. I mean she IS somewhat of a depressive, rather common among americans. But space programs also test astronauts mentally as well. Its unlikely she could hide, or downplay that side of her personality enough to pass a psych evaluation. She displays no particular aptitude for the task assigned that anyone else could perform just as easily.
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*** She didn't seem to have flying experience; by her own admission, she crashed the simulator Soyuz every single time she flew it.
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**** The size of the space station makes it very unlikely that it burns up in orbit. The US Skylab crashed to Earth, the ISS will be split up into pieces and the MIR was deorbited in a targetted manner. They basically launched a giant asteroid at the Earth without an idea where it would land, potentially dooming the Earth.
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*** If Explorer/ISS were orbiting one direction at 17,500 mph and the debris field were orbiting the other direction at 17,500 mph (giving each an orbit time of 90 minutes) wouldn't each intersection occur every 45 minutes?

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** So you're saying that it can be done, though? I mean, there's ''no reason'' that she can't use them or at least try using them.


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* How many kids did Ryan have? After the hallucination sequence she said to herself she was coming home to someone.
** She "asking" Matt to tell her daughter --her late daughter, since Matt was dead too-- that she was coming home. As in, her own home.
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** So you're saying that it can be done, though? I mean, there's ''no reason'' that she can't use them or at least try using them.

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** So you're saying that it can be done, though? I mean, there's ''no reason'' that she can't use them or at least try using them.
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* How many kids did Ryan have? After the hallucination sequence she said to herself she was coming home to someone.
** She "asking" Matt to tell her daughter --her late daughter, since Matt was dead too-- that she was coming home. As in, her own home.
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** Maybe some of the ISS crew were killed on its last pass through the debris?
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* The ISS has a standard crew of 6; in fact, [[http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-093013a.html the mock patch]] for the then-fictional Expedition 42 has six names on it. If they had to cram themselves into the one intact Soyuz, would it be controllable, let alone survivable?

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* The ISS has a standard crew of 6; in fact, [[http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-093013a.html the mock patch]] for the then-fictional Expedition 42 has six names on it. If they had to cram themselves into the one intact Soyuz, Soyuz (which seats three), would it be controllable, let alone (given the G-forces) survivable?
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* The ISS has a standard crew of 6; in fact, [[http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-093013a.html the mock patch]] for the then-fictional Expedition 42 has six names on it. If they had to cram themselves into the one intact Soyuz, would it be controllable, let alone survivable?
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** You're right, it is a little sketchy. Theorizing goes into WMG territory, but maybe she had flying experience, or went to Space Camp as a kid, or was healthy and athletic and had a solid profile for the job. We don't know, though.
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** So you're saying that it can be done, though? I mean, there's ''no reason'' that she can't use them or at least try using them.
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** The "air jets" are actually the "Reaction Control System" thrusters and they have their own fuel supply separate from the main engine. While they can move the ship around in any direction, they really can't be used to propel it the way the main engine can.

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* In the Soyuz, it's made clear that the air jets can completely maneuver the pod from all angles. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the fuel and the air jets are two separate things, right? If so, why didn't she just air jettison herself over to Tiangong?

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* In the Soyuz, it's made clear that the air jets can completely maneuver the pod from all angles. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the fuel and the air jets are two separate things, right? If so, why didn't she just air jettison herself over to Tiangong?Tiangong?

* Why was Ryan Stone sent into space in the first place? It seems like she's there because she invented/designed a piece of technology to be attached to the Hubble. But even if it's her invention, why can't someone else attach it? Training a civilian to become an astronaut is quite expensive, so wouldn't it have been much easier and cheaper to teach a regular NASA astronaut/engineer how to attach it.
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** There was a strong possibility that it wouldn't work, and I believe Kowalski chose not to try because he didn't want Stone, whose chance of survival was much higher, to attempt to rescue him in any way that endangered her own life. After all, he outright refuses her even attempting to come after him in the escape pod.



** Or, the debris is at the same altitude, but orbiting in the opposite direction. (17,500 mph x 2) More likely, the debris itself is in a perpendicular orbit at the same altitude, effectively forming a trail or even a ring that the orbits of the Explorer/ISS and their crews intersect each time they go around the earth every 90 minutes. The relative motion between them would make it seem that the characters in the movie are standing still, and it's the debris that's coming to them but really it's the other way around.

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** Or, the debris is at the same altitude, but orbiting in the opposite direction. (17,500 mph x 2) More likely, the debris itself is in a perpendicular orbit at the same altitude, effectively forming a trail or even a ring that the orbits of the Explorer/ISS and their crews intersect each time they go around the earth every 90 minutes. The relative motion between them would make it seem that the characters in the movie are standing still, and it's the debris that's coming to them but really it's the other way around.around.
* In the Soyuz, it's made clear that the air jets can completely maneuver the pod from all angles. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the fuel and the air jets are two separate things, right? If so, why didn't she just air jettison herself over to Tiangong?
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** The RuleOfDrama. The only way Kowalski could've been continuously pulling on the rope was if there was some other force acting on him, but since it's space, there's pretty much nothing to cause the force. However, having an experienced astronaut stick with Stone for the movie would've fixed the plot too easily.
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** Or, the debris is at the same altitude, but orbiting in the opposite direction. (17,500 mph x 2) More likely, the debris itself is in a perpendicular orbit at the same altitude, effectively forming a trail or even a ring that the orbits of the Explorer/ISS and their crews intersect each time they go around the earth every 90 minutes.

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** Or, the debris is at the same altitude, but orbiting in the opposite direction. (17,500 mph x 2) More likely, the debris itself is in a perpendicular orbit at the same altitude, effectively forming a trail or even a ring that the orbits of the Explorer/ISS and their crews intersect each time they go around the earth every 90 minutes. The relative motion between them would make it seem that the characters in the movie are standing still, and it's the debris that's coming to them but really it's the other way around.
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** Or, it's at the same altitude, but orbiting in the opposite direction. (17,500 mph x 2) More likely, the debris itself is in a perpendicular orbit at the same altitude, effectively forming a trail or even a ring,that orbit of the Explorer/ISS and their crews intersect each time they go around the earth every 90 minutes.

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** Or, it's the debris is at the same altitude, but orbiting in the opposite direction. (17,500 mph x 2) More likely, the debris itself is in a perpendicular orbit at the same altitude, effectively forming a trail or even a ring,that orbit ring that the orbits of the Explorer/ISS and their crews intersect each time they go around the earth every 90 minutes.
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** It could be that the debris are in orbit with high eccentricity, and that their periapsis coincidentally intersects with the shuttle and space stations. You could also have multiple debris, each debris cluster orbiting with different inclinations, if they are that unlucky.

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** It could be that the debris are in orbit with high eccentricity, and that their periapsis coincidentally intersects with the shuttle and space stations. You could also have multiple debris, each debris cluster orbiting with different inclinations, if they are that unlucky.unlucky.
** Or, it's at the same altitude, but orbiting in the opposite direction. (17,500 mph x 2) More likely, the debris itself is in a perpendicular orbit at the same altitude, effectively forming a trail or even a ring,that orbit of the Explorer/ISS and their crews intersect each time they go around the earth every 90 minutes.
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* If the debris is orbiting at the same altitude as the shuttle and space stations, how can it have a much higher velocity? I've played enough Kerbal Space Program to know that orbits of similar altitudes will always be similar speeds.

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* If the debris is orbiting at the same altitude as the shuttle and space stations, how can it have a much higher velocity? I've played enough Kerbal Space Program to know that orbits of similar altitudes will always be similar speeds.speeds.
** It could be that the debris are in orbit with high eccentricity, and that their periapsis coincidentally intersects with the shuttle and space stations. You could also have multiple debris, each debris cluster orbiting with different inclinations, if they are that unlucky.

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