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** Now it's been revealed that the Yoma [[spoiler: are actually parasitic, so naturally the bodies would bleed read, since they ARE human.]] The anime just made an assumption in order to distinguish between their carnage.

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** Now it's been revealed that the Yoma [[spoiler: are actually parasitic, so naturally the bodies would bleed read, red, since they ARE human.]] The anime just made an assumption in order to distinguish between their carnage.
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** The Organization's research definitely gives off strong WhatAnIdiot vibes. First of all, the technology they have access to is very vague, but considering their own military presence is armed with swords and spears, and their dialogue, chances are they have no concept of genetic engineering, let alone transgenesis. In other words, for what seems like 100+ years, they just kept going and going at a stupid experiment that resulted in failure at its primary task, the Organization itself driven out and beheaded, and massive loss of life with the added bonus of an EldritchAbomination on the loose powerful enough to depopulate the Claymore island and potentially the whole world. How did the Org's higher-ups not pull the plug after [[EpicFail the first fuckups with the male generation and Riful]] is an impenetrable mystery. To be fair, they '''might''' have cut the funding, hence the Org's extortion practices, but if so why is the Org. (except [[WhatAnIdiot Dae]]) still apparently committed to its original goal and its side in the mainland war?

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** The Organization's research definitely gives off strong WhatAnIdiot VillainBall vibes. First of all, the technology they have access to is very vague, but considering their own military presence is armed with swords and spears, and their dialogue, chances are they have no concept of genetic engineering, let alone transgenesis. In other words, for what seems like 100+ years, they just kept going and going at a stupid experiment that resulted in failure at its primary task, the Organization itself driven out and beheaded, and massive loss of life with the added bonus of an EldritchAbomination on the loose powerful enough to depopulate the Claymore island and potentially the whole world. How did the Org's higher-ups not pull the plug after [[EpicFail the first fuckups with the male generation and Riful]] is an impenetrable mystery. To be fair, they '''might''' have cut the funding, hence the Org's extortion practices, but if so why is the Org. (except [[WhatAnIdiot Dae]]) Dae) still apparently committed to its original goal and its side in the mainland war?
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** The other answer is the Organization ''didn't'' know and underestimated Theresa's strength. This is evidenced by Theresa's kill squad. It's pretty odd that the squad sent to kill Theresa only contained 4 Claymores when other Number 1's who went rogue faced the entire generation of Claymores and were barely defeated. Irene who lead the group was also completely mistaken about Theresa's strength with the Organization not correcting her before the mission started. We can also see that in Theresa's missions - other single ranked Claymores are semi-regularly sent against Awakened Ones. In contrast, we only see Theresa on regular Yoma hunts with the only battle we see against an Awakened One being an accident that Theresa lied to her handler about. It's possible that like her comrades, the Organization didn't know Theresa's power and thought that she was one of the weaker Number 1's who only got to that rank through excellent Yoki perception and clever and efficient use of her strength and because the Organization was short-staffed due [[spoiler: to the massacre of Rockwell Hill]]. Though this troper has a WMG that there are hints that Theresa knew more than she let on, might have figured out the Organization's secrets and was hiding her strength from them through a deliberately understated and unremarkable fighting style.

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** The other answer is the Organization ''didn't'' know and underestimated Theresa's strength. This is evidenced by Theresa's kill squad. It's pretty odd that the squad sent to kill Theresa only contained 4 Claymores when other Number 1's who went rogue faced the entire generation of Claymores and were barely defeated. Irene who lead the group was also completely mistaken about Theresa's strength with the Organization not correcting her before the mission started. We can also see that in Theresa's missions - other single ranked Claymores are semi-regularly sent against Awakened Ones. In contrast, we only see Theresa on regular Yoma hunts with the only battle we see against an Awakened One being an accident that Theresa lied to her handler about. It's possible that like her comrades, the Organization didn't know Theresa's power and thought that she was one of the weaker Number 1's who only got to that rank through excellent Yoki perception and clever and efficient use of her strength and because the Organization was short-staffed due [[spoiler: to the massacre of Rockwell Hill]]. Though this troper has a WMG that there are hints that Theresa knew more than she let on, might have figured out the Organization's secrets and was hiding her strength from them through a deliberately understated and unremarkable fighting style.style that uses minimal Yoki.
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** The other answer is the Organization ''didn't'' know and underestimated Theresa's strength. This is evidenced by Theresa's kill squad. It's pretty odd that the squad sent to kill Theresa only contained 4 Claymores when other Number 1's who went rogue faced the entire generation of Claymores and were barely defeated. Irene who lead the group was also completely mistaken about Theresa's strength with the Organization not correcting her before the mission started. We can also see that in Theresa's missions - other single ranked Claymores are semi-regularly sent against Awakened Ones. In contrast, we only see Theresa on regular Yoma hunts with the only battle we see against an Awakened One being an accident that Theresa lied to her handler about. It's possible that the Organization didn't know Theresa's power and thought that she was one of the weaker Number 1's who only got to that rank through excellent Yoki perception and clever and efficient use of her strength and because the Organization was short-staffed due [[spoiler: to the massacre of Rockwell Hill]]. Theresa's fighting style where she refuses to go full out, take any fight seriously and ends battles quickly and with minimal Yoki makes judging her power level hard and easy to underestimate. Though this troper has a WMG that there are hints that Theresa knew more than she let on, might have figured out the Organization's secrets and was deliberately hiding her strength from them.

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** The other answer is the Organization ''didn't'' know and underestimated Theresa's strength. This is evidenced by Theresa's kill squad. It's pretty odd that the squad sent to kill Theresa only contained 4 Claymores when other Number 1's who went rogue faced the entire generation of Claymores and were barely defeated. Irene who lead the group was also completely mistaken about Theresa's strength with the Organization not correcting her before the mission started. We can also see that in Theresa's missions - other single ranked Claymores are semi-regularly sent against Awakened Ones. In contrast, we only see Theresa on regular Yoma hunts with the only battle we see against an Awakened One being an accident that Theresa lied to her handler about. It's possible that like her comrades, the Organization didn't know Theresa's power and thought that she was one of the weaker Number 1's who only got to that rank through excellent Yoki perception and clever and efficient use of her strength and because the Organization was short-staffed due [[spoiler: to the massacre of Rockwell Hill]]. Theresa's fighting style where she refuses to go full out, take any fight seriously and ends battles quickly and with minimal Yoki makes judging her power level hard and easy to underestimate. Though this troper has a WMG that there are hints that Theresa knew more than she let on, might have figured out the Organization's secrets and was deliberately hiding her strength from them.them through a deliberately understated and unremarkable fighting style.
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** The other answer is the Organization ''didn't'' know and underestimated Theresa's strength. This is evidenced by Theresa's kill squad. It's pretty odd that the squad sent to kill Theresa only contained 4 Claymores when other Number 1's who went rogue faced the entire generation of Claymores and were barely defeated. Irene who lead the group was also completely mistaken about Theresa's strength with the Organization not correcting her before the mission started. We can also see that in Theresa's missions - other single ranked Claymores are semi-regularly sent against Awakened Ones. In contrast, we only see Theresa on regular Yoma hunts with the only battle we see against an Awakened One being an accident that Theresa lied to her handler about. It's possible that the Organization didn't know Theresa's power and thought that she was one of the weaker Number 1's who only got to that rank through excellent Yoki perception and clever and efficient use of her strength and because the Organization was short-staffed due [[spoiler: to the massacre of Rockwell Hill]]. Theresa's fighting style where she refuses to go full out, take any fight seriously and ends battles quickly and with minimal Yoki makes judging her power level hard and easy to underestimate. Though this troper has a WMG that there are hints that Theresa knew more than she let on, might have figured out the Organization's secrets and was been deliberately hiding her strength from them.

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** The other answer is the Organization ''didn't'' know and underestimated Theresa's strength. This is evidenced by Theresa's kill squad. It's pretty odd that the squad sent to kill Theresa only contained 4 Claymores when other Number 1's who went rogue faced the entire generation of Claymores and were barely defeated. Irene who lead the group was also completely mistaken about Theresa's strength with the Organization not correcting her before the mission started. We can also see that in Theresa's missions - other single ranked Claymores are semi-regularly sent against Awakened Ones. In contrast, we only see Theresa on regular Yoma hunts with the only battle we see against an Awakened One being an accident that Theresa lied to her handler about. It's possible that the Organization didn't know Theresa's power and thought that she was one of the weaker Number 1's who only got to that rank through excellent Yoki perception and clever and efficient use of her strength and because the Organization was short-staffed due [[spoiler: to the massacre of Rockwell Hill]]. Theresa's fighting style where she refuses to go full out, take any fight seriously and ends battles quickly and with minimal Yoki makes judging her power level hard and easy to underestimate. Though this troper has a WMG that there are hints that Theresa knew more than she let on, might have figured out the Organization's secrets and was been deliberately hiding her strength from them.
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** The other answer is the Organization ''didn't'' know and simply underestimated Theresa's strength. This is evidenced by Theresa's kill squad. It's pretty odd that the squad sent to kill Theresa only contained 4 Claymores when other Number 1's who went rogue faced the entire generation of Claymores and were barely defeated. Irene who lead the group was also completely mistaken about Theresa's strength with the Organization not correcting her before the mission started. We can also see that in Theresa's missions - other single ranked Claymores are semi-regularly sent against Awakened Ones. In contrast, we only see Theresa on regular Yoma hunts with the only battle we see against an Awakened One being an accident that Theresa lied to her handler about. It's possible that the Organization didn't know Theresa's power and thought that she was one of the weaker Number 1's who only got to that rank through excellent Yoki perception and clever and efficient use of her strength and because the Organization was short-staffed due [[spoiler: to the massacre of Rockwell Hill]]. Theresa's fighting style where she refuses to go full out and take any fight seriously and ends battles quickly and with minimal Yoki makes judging her power level hard and easy to underestimate. Though this troper has a WMG that there are many hints in the manga that Theresa knew much more than she let on, might have figured out at least some of the Organization's secrets and might have been deliberately hiding her strength from them.

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** The other answer is the Organization ''didn't'' know and simply underestimated Theresa's strength. This is evidenced by Theresa's kill squad. It's pretty odd that the squad sent to kill Theresa only contained 4 Claymores when other Number 1's who went rogue faced the entire generation of Claymores and were barely defeated. Irene who lead the group was also completely mistaken about Theresa's strength with the Organization not correcting her before the mission started. We can also see that in Theresa's missions - other single ranked Claymores are semi-regularly sent against Awakened Ones. In contrast, we only see Theresa on regular Yoma hunts with the only battle we see against an Awakened One being an accident that Theresa lied to her handler about. It's possible that the Organization didn't know Theresa's power and thought that she was one of the weaker Number 1's who only got to that rank through excellent Yoki perception and clever and efficient use of her strength and because the Organization was short-staffed due [[spoiler: to the massacre of Rockwell Hill]]. Theresa's fighting style where she refuses to go full out and out, take any fight seriously and ends battles quickly and with minimal Yoki makes judging her power level hard and easy to underestimate. Though this troper has a WMG that there are many hints in the manga that Theresa knew much more than she let on, might have figured out at least some of the Organization's secrets and might have was been deliberately hiding her strength from them.
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** The other answer is the Organization ''didn't'' know and simply underestimated Theresa's strength. This is evidenced by Theresa's kill squad. It's pretty odd that the squad sent to kill Theresa only contained 4 Claymores when other Number 1's who went rogue faced the entire generation of Claymores and were barely defeated. Irene who lead the group was also massively mistaken about Theresa's strength with the Organization not correcting her before the mission started. We can also see that in Theresa's missions - other single ranked Claymores are semi-regularly sent against Awakened Ones. In contrast, we only see Theresa on regular Yoma hunts with the only battle we see against an Awakened One being an accident that Theresa lied to her handler about. It's possible that the Organization didn't know Theresa's power and thought that she was one of the weaker Number 1's who only got to that rank through excellent Yoki perception and clever and efficient use of her strength. (and because the Organization was short-staffed due [[spoiler: to the massacre of Rockwell Hill]]) This writer has a WMG that Theresa knew much more than she let on. In her first appearance, Theresa scares villagers by implying that the Organization controls youma and would set them on villages who didn't pay [[spoiler: which is she completely correct about]]. It could be that the real reason she refuses to go full out and take any fight seriously and ends battles quickly and with minimal Yoki is because she's trying to protect herself from the Organization. (with her comrades and enemies underestimating her being only a lucky side effect) Remember the aftermath of the fight with Rosemary - her handler implies that Rosemary awakened and Theresa defeated her. At which point, [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness Theresa stops smiling, snaps at him and lies.]] It's out of character because she's afraid of her secret getting out.

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** The other answer is the Organization ''didn't'' know and simply underestimated Theresa's strength. This is evidenced by Theresa's kill squad. It's pretty odd that the squad sent to kill Theresa only contained 4 Claymores when other Number 1's who went rogue faced the entire generation of Claymores and were barely defeated. Irene who lead the group was also massively completely mistaken about Theresa's strength with the Organization not correcting her before the mission started. We can also see that in Theresa's missions - other single ranked Claymores are semi-regularly sent against Awakened Ones. In contrast, we only see Theresa on regular Yoma hunts with the only battle we see against an Awakened One being an accident that Theresa lied to her handler about. It's possible that the Organization didn't know Theresa's power and thought that she was one of the weaker Number 1's who only got to that rank through excellent Yoki perception and clever and efficient use of her strength. (and strength and because the Organization was short-staffed due [[spoiler: to the massacre of Rockwell Hill]]) This writer has a WMG that Theresa knew much more than she let on. In her first appearance, Theresa scares villagers by implying that the Organization controls youma and would set them on villages who didn't pay [[spoiler: which is she completely correct about]]. It could be that the real reason Hill]]. Theresa's fighting style where she refuses to go full out and take any fight seriously and ends battles quickly and with minimal Yoki is because she's trying to protect herself from the Organization. (with makes judging her comrades power level hard and enemies underestimating her being only easy to underestimate. Though this troper has a lucky side effect) Remember the aftermath of the fight with Rosemary - her handler implies WMG that Rosemary awakened and there are many hints in the manga that Theresa defeated her. At which point, [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness Theresa stops smiling, snaps knew much more than she let on, might have figured out at him least some of the Organization's secrets and lies.]] It's out of character because she's afraid of might have been deliberately hiding her secret getting out. strength from them.
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** The other answer is the Organization ''didn't'' know because Theresa deliberately hid her strength from the them. This is evidenced by Theresa's kill squad. It's pretty odd that the squad sent to kill Theresa only contained 4 Claymores when other Number 1's who went rogue had the entire force of Claymores assembled. Plus, Irene who lead the group was massively mistaken about Theresa's strength, which could be explained that the Organization didn't tell her but that would be a fatally stupid move. It's more likely that the Organization didn't know Theresa's power and thought that she was one of the weaker Number 1's who only got to that rank through excellent Yoki perception and clever and efficient use of her strength. (and because the Organization was short-staffed due [[spoiler: to the massacre of Rockwell Hill]]) And they likely thought so because Theresa hid her power from them by refusing to go full out and take any fight seriously, ending battles quickly and with minimal Yoki. It's hinted that Theresa knew much more than she let on - in her first appearance she scares villagers by implying that the Organization controls youma and would set them on villages who didn't pay [[spoiler: which is she completely correct about]]. My guess is that she discovered the Organization's true goal. And the real reason she never went full out is to keep her power a secret and protect herself. (Her comrades, youma and Awakened Ones underestimating her is a lucky side effect) Remember the aftermath of the fight with Rosemary - her handler implies that Rosemary awakened and Theresa took her out. At which point, [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness Theresa stops smiling, snaps at him and lies.]] It's out of character because she's afraid of her secret getting out.

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** The other answer is the Organization ''didn't'' know because Theresa deliberately hid her strength from the them.and simply underestimated Theresa's strength. This is evidenced by Theresa's kill squad. It's pretty odd that the squad sent to kill Theresa only contained 4 Claymores when other Number 1's who went rogue had faced the entire force generation of Claymores assembled. Plus, and were barely defeated. Irene who lead the group was also massively mistaken about Theresa's strength, which could be explained that strength with the Organization didn't tell not correcting her but before the mission started. We can also see that would be a fatally stupid move. in Theresa's missions - other single ranked Claymores are semi-regularly sent against Awakened Ones. In contrast, we only see Theresa on regular Yoma hunts with the only battle we see against an Awakened One being an accident that Theresa lied to her handler about. It's more likely possible that the Organization didn't know Theresa's power and thought that she was one of the weaker Number 1's who only got to that rank through excellent Yoki perception and clever and efficient use of her strength. (and because the Organization was short-staffed due [[spoiler: to the massacre of Rockwell Hill]]) And they likely thought so because Theresa hid her power from them by refusing to go full out and take any fight seriously, ending battles quickly and with minimal Yoki. It's hinted This writer has a WMG that Theresa knew much more than she let on - in on. In her first appearance she appearance, Theresa scares villagers by implying that the Organization controls youma and would set them on villages who didn't pay [[spoiler: which is she completely correct about]]. My guess is It could be that she discovered the Organization's true goal. And the real reason she never went refuses to go full out is to keep her power a secret and take any fight seriously and ends battles quickly and with minimal Yoki is because she's trying to protect herself. (Her comrades, youma herself from the Organization. (with her comrades and Awakened Ones enemies underestimating her is being only a lucky side effect) Remember the aftermath of the fight with Rosemary - her handler implies that Rosemary awakened and Theresa took her out.defeated her. At which point, [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness Theresa stops smiling, snaps at him and lies.]] It's out of character because she's afraid of her secret getting out.
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** Personally, I always thought Claymores were all sterile as a result of what was done to them. I don't think that it was mentioned anywhere in the manga, but considering that there has been absolutely no mention of Yoma, Claymore's or Awakened Beings breeding so far, and the Yoma seem to be created artificially, it doesn't seem that unlikely. As for the prostitute thing, because it is suppose to be used as a disguise, and Claymore's (supposedly) all have deformed bodies as a result of becoming half-Yoma, I don't think they actually have any need to learn how to have sex, because once the clothes come off the disguise is already ruined. As for getting married or whatever, I ''think'' that's allowed. At one point Rubel tells Clare something like "Our ''job'' is hunting demons. Whatever you want to do with your life is none of our business". As long as it didn't interfere with their work, the Organization probably doesn't care what a Claymore spends her time doing.

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** Personally, I always thought Claymores were all sterile as a result of what was done to them. I don't think that it was mentioned anywhere in the manga, but considering that there has been absolutely no mention of Yoma, Claymore's or Awakened Beings breeding so far, and the Yoma seem to be created artificially, it doesn't seem that unlikely. As for the prostitute thing, because it is suppose supposed to be used as a disguise, and Claymore's (supposedly) all have deformed bodies as a result of becoming half-Yoma, I don't think they actually have any need to learn how to have sex, because once the clothes come off the disguise is already ruined. As for getting married or whatever, I ''think'' that's allowed. At one point Rubel tells Clare something like "Our ''job'' is hunting demons. Whatever you want to do with your life is none of our business". As long as it didn't interfere with their work, the Organization probably doesn't care what a Claymore spends her time doing.
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* Is the girl who was kicking Priscilla's ass in Chapter 134 really Riful BackFromTheDead as the article seems to indicate, or is it her daughter, as [[http://mangafox.me/manga/claymore/v24/c132/27.html what looks like a fetus made of tentacles]] is shown in Chapter 132.

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* Is the girl who was kicking Priscilla's ass in Chapter 134 really Riful BackFromTheDead as the article seems to indicate, or is it her daughter, as [[http://mangafox.me/manga/claymore/v24/c132/27.html what looks like a fetus made of tentacles]] tentacles is shown in Chapter 132.



*** There's also another thing...even if the above mentioned is overlooked, the fact that Ilena and Teresa have known each other probably since before they were deployed as warriors can only say one thing - they were at least somewhat familiar with each others' techniques. Teresa even made an off-hand comment about how while Ilena has certainly gotten better, it still was just not enough. [[http://mangafox.me/manga/claymore/v04/c019/23.html Even from their faces]] you can see just what is happening in this fight. Ilena was already concentrating hard, but Teresa still had that faint smile on her face. The moment Ilena started to turn her sword towards Teresa, [[spoiler: Teresa was able to stop her sword like it was nothing]]. If you add the mentioned above, the fact that Teresa is just THAT strong, plus the fact that she probably has a working knowledge of Ilena's technique...it wasn't that Teresa's abilities are 'lesser'. She just wanted them all to believe that.

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*** There's also another thing...even if the above mentioned is overlooked, the fact that Ilena and Teresa have known each other probably since before they were deployed as warriors can only say one thing - they were at least somewhat familiar with each others' techniques. Teresa even made an off-hand comment about how while Ilena has certainly gotten better, it still was just not enough. [[http://mangafox.me/manga/claymore/v04/c019/23.html Even from their faces]] faces you can see just what is happening in this fight. Ilena was already concentrating hard, but Teresa still had that faint smile on her face. The moment Ilena started to turn her sword towards Teresa, [[spoiler: Teresa was able to stop her sword like it was nothing]]. If you add the mentioned above, the fact that Teresa is just THAT strong, plus the fact that she probably has a working knowledge of Ilena's technique...it wasn't that Teresa's abilities are 'lesser'. She just wanted them all to believe that.
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* I started wondering a bit about Claymore social and sexual life. Claire once stated that she was taught to smile like a Prostitue...I wonder if Claymores are also taught the other stuff that those do, just to uphold that masquerade if needed. Also, we don't see any mention of married Claymores, but I wonder if the Organization does prohibit marriage or if it just so happens that a Claymore has a hard time finding a man that would accept a half-demon as his wife and the job takes most of their time anyway, I guess. Also, what would happen if a Claymore got pregnant, assuming they can? The Organization would likely cause them trouble for being unable to do missions, but would the child also have Yoma blood? Other than that, I guess when Claymore search for love and comfort, there's generally a lot of LesYay involved...

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* I started wondering a bit about Claymore social and sexual life. Claire once stated that she was taught to smile like a Prostitue...prostitute...I wonder if Claymores are also taught the other stuff that those do, just to uphold that masquerade if needed. Also, we don't see any mention of married Claymores, but I wonder if the Organization does prohibit marriage or if it just so happens that a Claymore has a hard time finding a man that would accept a half-demon as his wife and the job takes most of their time anyway, I guess. Also, what would happen if a Claymore got pregnant, assuming they can? The Organization would likely cause them trouble for being unable to do missions, but would the child also have Yoma blood? Other than that, I guess when Claymore search for love and comfort, there's generally a lot of LesYay involved...
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* What was with Ophelia? Was she sent to kill Clare or did she already kill the awakened being and decided to kill a fellow Claymore and a kid for the hell of it?

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* What was with Ophelia? Was she sent to kill Clare and the Awakened Being, or did she already kill the awakened being and decided to kill a fellow Claymore and a kid for the hell of it?just feel like it because she was mental?
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* What was with Ophelia? Was she sent to kill Clare or did she already kill the awakened being and decided to kill a fellow Claymore and a kid for the hell of it?

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