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* While there's plenty of room to argue that Branden wouldn't follow Gordon's orders in general, or accepted just being relieved of duty, shouldn't at the least the fact that Branden ignored Gordon's command to hold his fire at the GCPD have led to Gordon benching Branden in some manner for the remainder of the night? Instead, he's still leading the teams into the Royale and the bridge? Even with Gordon's faith in the institution and brotherhood, while we see repeated instances of the corruption of the force, rotating Branden to desk duty should at least been discussed in some manner, right?
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** If the Black Spider of the Arkhamverse is anything like the one from Assault on Arkham (and he should be seeing as AoA is set in the Arkhamverse), then chances are, he was rejected for basically being someone who only killed murderers and other criminals, and Black Mask probably did not think he would go after the Batman. While he was in Suicide Squad, IIRC we do not actually see him kill any of the guards and he only fights Batman because the guy dropped out of nowhere and started to kick their asses, not to mention failure was a one way ticket to boom town.

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** If the Black Spider of the Arkhamverse is anything like the one from Assault on Arkham (and he should be seeing as AoA [=AoA=] is set in the Arkhamverse), then chances are, he was rejected for basically being someone who only killed murderers and other criminals, and Black Mask probably did not think he would go after the Batman. While he was in Suicide Squad, IIRC we do not actually see him kill any of the guards and he only fights Batman because the guy dropped out of nowhere and started to kick their asses, not to mention failure was a one way ticket to boom town.

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* At one point the the game Batman threatens Black Mask by saying he will over beat his pace maker (to 250 beats per minute) won't that kill him?
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* At one point the the game Batman threatens Black Mask by saying he will over beat his pace maker (to 250 beats per minute) won't that kill him?
** Probably, which means it's unlikely Batman would have gone through with doing it. Of course, Batman isn't going to tell Sionis that he's bluffing.
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* At one point the the game Batman threatens Black Mask by saying he will over beat his pace maker (to 250 beats per minute) won't that kill him?
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*** Legal or not it would still be pretty freaking hard for a "civilian" to get their hands on a M1A1 Abrams Main Battle Tank, and not have the FBI, CIA, NSA, and BATFE come knocking on your door.

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*** Legal or not it would still be pretty freaking hard for a "civilian" to get their hands on a M1A1 [=M1A1=] Abrams Main Battle Tank, and not have the FBI, CIA, NSA, and BATFE come knocking on your door.
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* All the Anarky goons wear those masks, those might reveal the painted marks the same way Detective Vision does. As for why, scanning each building unlocks a rant denouncing the place so they could have been target markers.
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* Okay I have two issues with the Anarky Tags. A. How exactly were Anarky and his followers able to paint these tags with paint only detectable through Detective Vision? And B. WHY exactly are they tagging buildings with paint invisible to the naked eye? What exactly does this achieve?
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* One of the taunts the Joker might give after Batman dies is something like "Aww, did I kill your little friend?" Who is he referring to? I don't think the Joker meets a single person throughout the game who is known to actually associate with Batman. I think the only person he is guaranteed to even have killed by the point you can see this message is the bank manager. If he is directing this to a third person and Batman is the friend in question, I have no idea who that might be either. Of course this ''is'' the Joker, but usually he's not so random I have this much trouble figuring out what the hell he is talking about.
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** Why exactly can't Bane be acting alone [[spoiler: during his attack on Wayne Manor]]? He'd be strong enough to do it alone, and could bring the necessary equipment to [[spoiler: invade the Batcave]] himself. Besides I seriously doubt [[spoiler: Alfred]] could actually be able to fight off Bane on his own, and given the news about Firefly attacking the bridge, he would know where Batman would be. Alternatively, Bane's men [[spoiler: helped him ransack Wayne Manor, but he attacked the Batcave alone]] and his men didn't know that [[spoiler: Bruce Wayne is Batman]] because while their is little reason to not tell them that, their also isn't much of a reason to tell them either. Or I could just echo what the above troper is saying and guess that Alfred killed everyone except Bane.

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** Why exactly can't Bane be acting alone [[spoiler: during his attack on Wayne Manor]]? He'd be strong enough to do it alone, and could bring the necessary equipment to [[spoiler: invade the Batcave]] himself. Besides I seriously doubt [[spoiler: Alfred]] could actually be able to fight off Bane on his own, and given the news about Firefly attacking the bridge, he would know where Batman would be. Alternatively, Bane's men [[spoiler: helped him ransack Wayne Manor, but he attacked the Batcave alone]] and his men didn't know that [[spoiler: Bruce Wayne is Batman]] because while their there is little reason to not tell them that, their there also isn't much of a reason to tell them either. Or I could just echo what the above troper is saying and guess that Alfred killed everyone except Bane.
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** An out of character character explanation is that they're they're working with a pre-assigned budget when it comes to animation and so on. While female skins do exist within the game notice how they have very specific animations in combat (sword use, lots of kicks, etc). The vast majority of work would have already gone into the motion capture for male models (a great deal of which has been carried over from the previous two games after all), making the extra clothing options fairly negligible in terms of the effort needed. Unless you're an independent developer there's not an awful lot of freedom as to what you can spend your money and time on, so lumping a bunch of men together in the multiplayer is more to do with that than anyone in the group wanting to disrespect women.

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** An out of character character explanation is that they're they're working with a pre-assigned budget when it comes to animation and so on. While female skins do exist within the game notice how they have very specific animations in combat (sword use, lots of kicks, etc). The vast majority of work would have already gone into the motion capture for male models (a great deal of which has been carried over from the previous two games after all), making the extra clothing options fairly negligible in terms of the effort needed. Unless you're an independent developer there's not an awful lot of freedom as to what you can spend your money and time on, so lumping a bunch of men together in the multiplayer is more to do with that than anyone in the group wanting to disrespect women.
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** Maybe Blackgate has a more secure unit for more serious offends that are awaiting trail but haven't been sentenced yet. In comic arc ''ComicBook/BruceWayneFugitive'' Bruce and Sasha await there trial inside Blackgate so there is precedence for it.

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** Maybe Blackgate has a more secure unit for more serious offends that are awaiting trail but haven't been sentenced yet. In comic arc ''ComicBook/BruceWayneFugitive'' Bruce and Sasha await there their trial inside Blackgate so there is precedence for it.
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*** Maybe the killer, a known friend/acquaintance himself might have lured them towards Crime alley. As it's a nice secluded spot for a murder. Also, since everyone knows how Bruxe Wayne's parents died, especially those who know him and with the press he attracts. Maybe the killer was taking a little but of petty revenge with that as well after being kicked out of the Wayne manor party. Though I doubt that that guy thought that far ahead.

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*** Maybe the killer, a known friend/acquaintance himself might have lured them towards Crime alley. As it's a nice secluded spot for a murder. Also, since everyone knows how Bruxe Bruce Wayne's parents died, especially those who know him and with the press he attracts. Maybe the killer was taking a little but of petty revenge with that as well after being kicked out of the Wayne manor party. Though I doubt that that guy thought that far ahead.
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** If the Black Spider of the Arkhamverse is anything like the one from Assault on Arkham (and he should be seeing as AoA is set in the Arkhamverse), then chances are, he was rejected for basically being someone who only killed murders and other criminals, and Black Mask probably did not think he would go after the Batman. While he was in Suicide Squad, IIRC we do not actually see him kill any of the guards and he only fights Batman because the guy dropped out of nowhere and started to kick their asses, not to mention failure was a one way ticket to boom town.

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** If the Black Spider of the Arkhamverse is anything like the one from Assault on Arkham (and he should be seeing as AoA is set in the Arkhamverse), then chances are, he was rejected for basically being someone who only killed murders murderers and other criminals, and Black Mask probably did not think he would go after the Batman. While he was in Suicide Squad, IIRC we do not actually see him kill any of the guards and he only fights Batman because the guy dropped out of nowhere and started to kick their asses, not to mention failure was a one way ticket to boom town.
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*** Legal or not it would still be pretty freaking hard for a "civilian" to get there hands on a M1A1 Abrams Main Battle Tank, and not have the FBI, CIA, NSA, and BATFE come knocking on your door.

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*** Legal or not it would still be pretty freaking hard for a "civilian" to get there their hands on a M1A1 Abrams Main Battle Tank, and not have the FBI, CIA, NSA, and BATFE come knocking on your door.
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** If the Black Spider of the Arkhamverse is anything like the one from Assault on Arkham (and he should be seeing as AoA is set in the Arkhamverse), then chances are, he was rejected for basically being someone who only killed murders and other criminals, and Black Mask probably did not think he would go after the Batman. While he was in Suicide Squad, IIRC we do not actually see him kill any of the guards and he only fights Batman because the guy dropped out of nowhere and started to kick their asses, not to mention failure was a one way ticket to boom town.
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** To say nothing of the thugs left unconscious in a freakin' ''burning building'' in the Mr. Freeze [=DLC=].
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** Bane probably doesn't want to risk trusting his mercenaries with that kind of information. Yes, they ''seem'' devoted to his cause, but they're still ''mercenaries''. And if Batman's head is worth $50 million to somebody, then Batman's true identity has got to be worth at least a few million. And not just to Black Mask/Joker, either: a smart merc could sell the same information to Penguin, Enigma, Falcone, and pretty much anyone else with money and a grudge against the Bat.

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** Bane probably doesn't want to risk trusting his mercenaries with that kind of information. Yes, they ''seem'' devoted to his cause, but they're still ''mercenaries''. And if Batman's head is worth $50 million to somebody, then Batman's true identity has got to be worth at least a few million. And not just to Black Mask/Joker, either: a smart merc could sell the same information to Penguin, Enigma, Falcone, and pretty much anyone else with money and a grudge against the Bat. Heck, they could even sell it to the other seven assassins in return for a cut of the $50m.
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** Bane probably doesn't want to risk trusting his mercenaries with that kind of information. Yes, they ''seem'' devoted to his cause, but they're still ''mercenaries''. And if Batman's head is worth $50 million to somebody, then Batman's true identity has got to be worth at least a few million. And not just to Black Mask/Joker, either.

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** Bane probably doesn't want to risk trusting his mercenaries with that kind of information. Yes, they ''seem'' devoted to his cause, but they're still ''mercenaries''. And if Batman's head is worth $50 million to somebody, then Batman's true identity has got to be worth at least a few million. And not just to Black Mask/Joker, either.either: a smart merc could sell the same information to Penguin, Enigma, Falcone, and pretty much anyone else with money and a grudge against the Bat.
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** Bane probably doesn't want to risk trusting his mercenaries with that kind of information. Yes, they ''seem'' devoted to his cause, but they're still ''mercenaries''. And if Batman's head is worth $50 million to somebody, then Batman's true identity has got to be worth at least a few million. And not just to Black Mask/Joker, either.
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** Anarky might have quite a few followers his own age, but most of them are probably half-hearted wannabees who are stuck at home. It's freakin' ''Christmas'', after all: if they ditch one of the biggest holidays to go play terrorist with their loser friends, their parents will really make them regret it.
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** There were steam-powered experimental cars that long ago in real life, although they were neither cost-effective nor particularly safe. It's entirely possible that the "car accident" was a ''boiler explosion'' in one of those.
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** Christmas Eve is a working holiday for burglars. Plenty of apartments are vacant because the occupants are away to visit family, and if a business gets robbed on that night, it won't be until two days later that anyone comes in to work to discover the crime has occurred: even 24-7 stores usually close for Christmas. Those unaffiliated dudes were presumably casing residences and stores to confirm nobody was around.
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*** This one does.
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** Branden might not have known what happened, or he knew that Black Mask employed decoys.
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*** As of Arkham Knight, Jason Todd is SO MUCH confirmed to Arkhamverse. And I believe at some point in AA or AC Joker says something like "You don't wanna lose another one [Robin], do you?" or even when you play as Robin in challenge mode, Joker taunts you with similar line "Oh, I thought I finished you last time". I know for sure that something like that happens, but the lines themselves might be off.
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**Along the lines of this origin, Bane's profile, seen during the Assassins introduction sequence, states that his known associates are Bird, Trogg, and Zombie. These are the same people who helped Bane escape from Peña Dura, further tying the game to that origin.

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