History Fridge / SupermanVSTheElite

* While part of it was an act, The Elite definitely could harm Superman, that blood definitely wasn't fake and Coldcast knocked Superman out before he was acting, yet Superman still tore them apart with ease afterwards, perhaps the Elite should have thought it through a bit more before hitting a solar powered superhero with "15 suns exploding in his face."

* While part of it was his act, The Elite definitely could harm Superman, that blood definitely wasent fake and Coldcast knocked Superman out before he was acting, yet Superman still tore them apart with ease afterwards, perhaps the Elite should have thought it threw a bit more before hitting a solar powered superhero with "15 suns exploding in his face"

* How is it that the ultimate "boy scout" of the DC Universe [[spoiler: knew how to put on so effectively the guise of a terrifying, brutal executioner who's lost all restraint when dealing with the Elite. Maybe its because he learned it - through observation or otherwise - from [[Franchise/{{Batman}} a certain fellow Justice Leaguer who regularly uses theatrics and intimidation like a finely honed scalpel.]]]]
** Alternatively, [[spoiler: he's [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague seen alternate versions of himself]] that aren't quite so boy-scout.]]
* Alternatively to the above as well, Superman is quite capable of being [[spoiler: A TerrorHero]]. Batman himself has had crooks say they find [[spoiler: Superman a lot scarier than Batman, to Batman's face, because the guy can and will pluck you two miles above the surface mid crime and tell you to knock it off]]. It's just when Superman does it, it usually comes off as sort of funny. [[spoiler: Someone being yanked up mid crime and given a lecture is a funny image. What he did to the Elite is not a funny image.]] Alternately Superman is always clear that he can [[spoiler: hear and see you. Everyone knows he is flying around all the time with super vision and stuff.]] It's just that to most people [[spoiler: that thought comes across as more reassuring than scary. It is, however, a method of crook intimidation that Batman and Wonder Woman have praised as being so passive yet very effective.]]

* The methods that Superman used to [[spoiler:fake the death of The Elite]] were pretty dangerous out right: he [[spoiler:shot Pam with a dart that made her heart (appear to) stop, collapsed The Hat's lungs with a tornado, and carried Coldcast into space. While it's true he didn't actually kill them, those methods could've killed them anyway simply due to the forces involved. Superman could have accidentally killed The Elite!]]

* Superman reveals that he [[spoiler:didn't actually destroy the part of the brain that gives Black his powers, but since the Elite is going to be de-powered anyway, what difference does it make?]]

* Alternatively to the above as well, Superman is quite capable of being [[spoiler: A TerrorHero]]. Batman himself has had crooks say they find [[spoiler: Superman a lot scarier than Batman, to Batman's face, because the guy can and will pluck you two miles above the surface mid crime and tell you to knock it off]]. It's just when Superman does it, it usually comes off as sort of funny. [[spoiler: Someone being yanked up mid crime and given a lecture is a funny image. What he did to the Elite is not a funny image.]] Alternately Superman is always clear that he can [[spoiler: hear and see you. Everyone knows he is flying around all the time with super vision and stuff.]] It's just that to most people [[spoiler: that isn't scary. It is, however, a method of crook intimidation that Batman and Wonder Woman have praised as being so passive yet very effective.]]

* Alternatively to the above as well, Superman is quite capable of being [[spoiler: A TerrorHero]]. Batman himself has had crooks say they find [[spoiler: Superman a lot scarier than Batman, to Batman's face, because the guy can and will pluck you two miles above the surface mid crime and tell you to knock it off]]. It's just when Superman does it, it usually comes off as sort of funny. [[spoiler: Someone being yanked up mid crime and given a lecture is a funny image. What he did to the Elite is not a funny image.]]

* Alternatively to the above as well, Superman is quite capable of being [[spoiler: A TerrorHero]]. Batman himself has had crooks say they find [[spoiler: Superman a lot scarier than Batman, to Batman's face, because the guy can and will pluck you two miles above the surface mid crime and tell you to knock it off]]. It's just when Superman does it, it usually comes off as sort of funny. [[Spoiler: Someone being yanked up mid crime and given a lecture is a funny image. What he did to the Elite is not a funny image.]]

*** On top of this, what the Elite would do after their poorly thought out plan didn't work. They made it clear when they fought Superman that they do not care how many people they have to kill if they get in their way. If the countries had new leaders who resumed hostilities, than the Elite would probably plan to just keep killing them over and over until the new leaders who stepped up would bow their heads to the Elite. Given the number of people the Elite killed the first time, they could easily end killing every person with any leadership qualifications, leading to governments with nobody to run them.

*** Not just nuclear capable, they also have advanced biotechnology and substantial bioweapons programs. Black would have simply screwed the world another way by opening the way for radicals in those countries to initiate unrestricted biowarfare...that will inevitably spread as pathogens are wont to do.[[/folder]]
** On top of this, what the Elite would do after their poorly thought out plan didn't work. They made it clear when they fought Superman that they do not care how many people they have to kill if they get in their way. If the countries had new leaders who resumed hostilities, than the Elite would probably plan to just keep killing them over and over until the new leaders who stepped up would bow their heads to the Elite. Given the number of people the Elite killed the first time, they could easily end killing every person with any leadership qualifications, leading to governments with nobody to run them.
* We saw the a number of cars crash thanks to Coldcast's neutrino pulse in Bialya. The pulse hit the entire city, or at least a large chunk of it. Given how long it took for Superman to recover from it, in addition to the number people killed outright from accidents in the initial blast, how many more died from injuries because the state of the city kept them from getting to a hospital in time?

*** If that were the case, no one would ever use laser-eye surgery.

*** Not just nuclear capable, they also have advanced biotechnology and substantial bioweapons programs. Black would have simply screwed the world another way by opening the way for radicals in countries to initiate unrestricted biowarfare...that will inevitably spread as pathogens are wont to do.[[/folder]]

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** A bit of subtle horror is that had Superman ''actually'' been trying to kill them, he could have simply done what he claimed to have done to Coldcast: sent them flying into space at hyper sonic speeds and there's nothing they could've done to stop him. It would've been that ''easy''.

*** You can tell that Supes didn't ever really use his super speed other than to dodge attacks. If he really wanted Black dead, he woulda been punching alot faster.

* The methods that Superman used to [[spoiler:fake the death of The Elite]] were pretty dangerous out right: he [[spoiler:shot Pam with a dart that made her heart (appear to) stop, collapsed The Hat's lungs with a tornado, and carried Coldcast into space. While it's true he didn't actually kill them, those methods could've killed them anyway simply due to the forces involved. Superman could have accidently killed The Elite!]]

*** Perhaps, like with the Atomic Skull as a power source, some government officials believe they can use the Supercrimnals as a resource.

** There's a difference between Superman the members of the Elite: Supes can take as much as he can dish and move so fast that even hitting him is an awesome feat by itself, the Elite ''can't''. And that's what ''really'' makes Superman going evil so scary: he's nearly impossible to kill. The Elite, on the other hand, would be vulnerable to anything that can kill a normal man (in fact, had they won I can easily see a number of superheroes make short work of them, including Green Arrow using the boxing glove arrows just to humiliate them).

* The root conflict of the story isn't just about the proper way to deal with the worlds problems, it's about the ''influence'' that people with power have on society.

** They [[DidntThinkThisThrough Didn't Think It Through]]. It would have been quite amusing to show what would have happened... Especially in the comic, where ''SelfDemonstrating/LexLuthor'' was the president of the United States and thus in charge of the country that usually leads the humanitarian interventions.