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* Metallic Madness' Act 1 lyrics involves Sonic rapping, while Act 2's lyrics involves Eggman rapping instead. They're performing BattleRapping against each other!
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* Flying Battery's Act 1 boss is similar to the Laser Prison from Act 2 of ''VideoGame/Sonic3AndKnuckles[='=]'' Flying Battery Zone, but it uses a far less self-destructive method of combat by trying to [[TheWallsAreClosingIn compact the player]] instead of blasting the ship apart with its own laser. Even if it ''did'' have a laser, the area underneath is the trash disposal hatch, meaning that no vital ship systems would be damaged in the process. Eggman must have [[GenreSavvy learned from his former mistake]] when he rebuilt the Flying Battery, and unlike S3&K, the airship is still relatively intact after our heroes depart.

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* Flying Battery's Act 1 boss is similar to the Laser Prison from Act 2 of ''VideoGame/Sonic3AndKnuckles[='=]'' Flying Battery Zone, but it uses a far less self-destructive method of combat by trying to [[TheWallsAreClosingIn compact the player]] instead of blasting the ship apart with its own laser. Even if it ''did'' have a laser, the area underneath is the trash disposal hatch, meaning that no vital ship systems would be damaged in the process. Eggman must have [[GenreSavvy learned from his former mistake]] when he rebuilt the Flying Battery, and unlike what happens in S3&K, the airship is still relatively intact after our heroes depart.
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* Flying Battery's Act 1 boss is similar to the Laser Prison from Act 2 of ''VideoGame/Sonic3AndKnuckles[='=]'' Flying Battery Zone, but it uses a far less self-destructive method of combat by trying to [[TheWallsAreClosingIn compact the player]] instead of blasting the ship apart with its own laser. Eggman must have learned from his former mistake when he rebuilt the Flying Battery, and unlike S3&K, the airship is still relatively intact after our heroes depart.

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* Flying Battery's Act 1 boss is similar to the Laser Prison from Act 2 of ''VideoGame/Sonic3AndKnuckles[='=]'' Flying Battery Zone, but it uses a far less self-destructive method of combat by trying to [[TheWallsAreClosingIn compact the player]] instead of blasting the ship apart with its own laser. Even if it ''did'' have a laser, the area underneath is the trash disposal hatch, meaning that no vital ship systems would be damaged in the process. Eggman must have [[GenreSavvy learned from his former mistake mistake]] when he rebuilt the Flying Battery, and unlike S3&K, the airship is still relatively intact after our heroes depart.
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* Flying Battery's Act 1 boss is similar to the Laser Prison from Act 2 of ''VideoGame/Sonic3AndKnuckles[='=]'' Flying Battery Zone, but it uses a far less self-destructive method of combat by trying to [[TheWallsAreClosingIn compact the player]] instead of blasting the ship apart with its own laser. Eggman must have learned from his former mistake when he rebuilt the Flying Battery, and unlike S3&K, the airship is still relatively intact after our heroes depart.
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** Relatedly, why is Eggman [[DegradedBoss so much easier to beat in this one?]] Sonic has faster reflexes than the protagonist of ''Mean Bean Machine''. Besides it's been more than a decade since Eggman played it, of course he'd be rusty.

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** Relatedly, why is Eggman [[DegradedBoss so much easier to beat in this one?]] Sonic has faster reflexes than the protagonist of ''Mean Bean Machine''. Besides it's been more than a decade since Eggman played it, of course he'd be rusty. Also, this is the only boss fight in Sonic Mania (Plus) where you can't lose rings; all you lose is lives, and those if Robotnik beats you at the Puyo Puyo boss.
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** The Silver Sonics most likely have much simpler programming to Metal Sonic and are thusly more like automatons. Metal Sonic also probably views them as inferior, which is why he decides to throw them at you.
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* Similarly, Mania provides an explanation as to why the Master Emerald is in located in the outdoor shrine in ''Sonic Adventure'', as opposed to Hidden Palace. The fact a theft was attempted a second time in this game (by Heavy King this time) made it clear to Knuckles that the location of Hidden Palace had been compromised and the Emerald was no longer safe there, so he decided to keep it in the outdoor shrine from then on, where he can watch it more closely. In the third episode of Mania Adventures, we see him taking the Emerald somewhere -- he was taking it to the outdoor shrine.

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* Similarly, Mania provides an explanation as to why the Master Emerald is in located in the outdoor shrine in ''Sonic Adventure'', as opposed to Hidden Palace. The fact a theft was attempted a second time in this game (by Heavy King this time) made it clear to Knuckles that the location of Hidden Palace had been compromised and the Emerald was no longer safe there, so he decided to keep it in the outdoor shrine from then on, where he can watch it more closely. In the third episode of Mania Adventures, we see him taking the Emerald somewhere -- he was taking it to the outdoor shrine.



* The first boss of the game is the Death Egg Robot from ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2''. There, it was a struggle for Sonic, but here, it's more of a ''warm-up'' for him, showing how far Sonic has come since Sonic 2.

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* The first boss of the game is the Death Egg Robot from ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2''. There, it was a struggle for Sonic, but here, it's more of a ''warm-up'' for him, showing how far Sonic has come since Sonic 2.''Sonic 2''.



* Classic Eggman's [[SanitySlippage mind is slowly deteriorating]] due to the Phantom Ruby's influence, which could mean eventually he'll do more and more dangerous plans should he fail with his current one. [[note]] Which eventually happens, [[TheGoodGuyAlwaysWins given Sonic's track record]]. [[/note]] Eventually, he'll do what his future self would do, such as the Time Eater plan, [[YouCantFightFate meaning his fate is already set in stone]].

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* Classic Eggman's [[SanitySlippage mind is slowly deteriorating]] due to the Phantom Ruby's influence, which could mean eventually he'll do more and more dangerous plans should he fail with his current one. [[note]] Which [[note]]Which eventually happens, [[TheGoodGuyAlwaysWins given Sonic's track record]]. record]].[[/note]] Eventually, he'll do what his future self would do, such as the Time Eater plan, [[YouCantFightFate meaning his fate is already set in stone]].
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* * The Silver Sonics that Metal Sonic deploys against you are most likely Eggman's earlier attempts at creating robotic clones of Sonic. They're like his brothers, probably sharing a lot of the same programming as Metal Sonic and experiencing the world in a similar way. Despite this, Metal Sonic throws them at you as expendable cannon fodder.

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* * The Silver Sonics that Metal Sonic deploys against you are most likely Eggman's earlier attempts at creating robotic clones of Sonic. They're like his brothers, probably sharing a lot of the same programming as Metal Sonic and experiencing the world in a similar way. Despite this, Metal Sonic throws them at you as expendable cannon fodder.
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* The Silver Sonics that Metal Sonic sics on you are most likely Eggman's earlier attempts at creating robotic clones of Sonic. With their common origin, they're basically like Metal Sonic's brothers. However rather than cherishing his robot "family", Metal Sonic unsentimentally throws them at you as expendable cannon fodder.

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* * The Silver Sonics that Metal Sonic sics on deploys against you are most likely Eggman's earlier attempts at creating robotic clones of Sonic. With their common origin, they're basically They're like Metal Sonic's brothers. However rather than cherishing his robot "family", brothers, probably sharing a lot of the same programming as Metal Sonic unsentimentally and experiencing the world in a similar way. Despite this, Metal Sonic throws them at you as expendable cannon fodder.
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** Relatedly, why is Eggman [[DegradedBoss so much easier to beat in this one?]] Sonic has faster reflexes than the protagonist of ''Mean Bean Machine''.

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** Relatedly, why is Eggman [[DegradedBoss so much easier to beat in this one?]] Sonic has faster reflexes than the protagonist of ''Mean Bean Machine''. Besides it's been more than a decade since Eggman played it, of course he'd be rusty.
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* The first boss of the game is the Death Egg Robot from ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2''. There, it was a struggle for Sonic, but here, it's more of a ''warm-up'' for him, showing how far Sonic has come since Sonic 2.

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* Intentional or not, Mania's seeming success in creating an alternative to Sonic 4 also includes an explanation as to why Metal Sonic would potentially go rogue in ''VideoGame/SonicHeroes''. [[spoiler: Metal Sonic in ''Adventures'' is shown to be able to comprehend the emotions of his enemies enough to manipulate them via impromptu hostage situation, implying he's definitely getting smarter as time goes on. Between experiencing the power of the Phantom Ruby, being upgraded to be given a Super Form ''and'' Mecha Sonic's ability to siphon power from the Master Emerald, he would probably start seeking out power on his own. Not only that, while Eggman's plan in ''Adventures'' and ''Mania'' proper failed, the one plan he created on his own with no outside assistance succeeded. It's probable that he'd start to see Eggman as the key flaw in the Empire's operation.]]

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* Intentional or not, Mania's seeming success in creating an alternative to Sonic 4 also includes an explanation as to why Metal Sonic would potentially go rogue in ''VideoGame/SonicHeroes''. [[spoiler: Metal Sonic in ''Adventures'' is shown to be able to comprehend the emotions of his enemies enough to manipulate them via impromptu hostage situation, implying he's definitely getting smarter as time goes on. Between experiencing the power of the Phantom Ruby, being upgraded to be given a Super Form ''and'' Mecha Sonic's Sonic Mk II's ability to siphon power from the Master Emerald, he would probably start seeking out power on his own. Not only that, while Eggman's plan in ''Adventures'' and ''Mania'' proper failed, the one plan he created on his own with no outside assistance succeeded. It's probable that he'd start to see Eggman as the key flaw in the Empire's operation.]]]]
** The game also gives more context to Classic Eggman's line of "I'm gonna dedicate the rest of my life to forgetting [The Time Eater plan]". By doing the Angel Island Operation after he and his future self failed to erase their Sonics from existence, he did what he did best: focusing on the here and now until a new plan that doesn't involve time travel can be implemented, such as sending the Hard Boiled Heavies to investigate the Phantom Ruby's energy signature in Angel Island.


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* Classic Eggman's [[SanitySlippage mind is slowly deteriorating]] due to the Phantom Ruby's influence, which could mean eventually he'll do more and more dangerous plans should he fail with his current one. [[note]] Which eventually happens, [[TheGoodGuyAlwaysWins given Sonic's track record]]. [[/note]] Eventually, he'll do what his future self would do, such as the Time Eater plan, [[YouCantFightFate meaning his fate is already set in stone]].
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* Similarly, Mania provides an explanation as to why the Master Emerald is in located in the outdoor shrine in ''Sonic Adventure'', as opposed to Hidden Palace. The fact a theft was attempted a second time in the game (by Heavy King this time) made it clear to Knuckles that the location of Hidden Palace had been compromised and the Emerald was no longer safe there, so he decided to keep it in the outdoor shrine from then on, where he can watch it more closely. In the third episode of Mania Adventures, we see him taking the Emerald somewhere -- he was taking it to the outdoor shrine.

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* Similarly, Mania provides an explanation as to why the Master Emerald is in located in the outdoor shrine in ''Sonic Adventure'', as opposed to Hidden Palace. The fact a theft was attempted a second time in the this game (by Heavy King this time) made it clear to Knuckles that the location of Hidden Palace had been compromised and the Emerald was no longer safe there, so he decided to keep it in the outdoor shrine from then on, where he can watch it more closely. In the third episode of Mania Adventures, we see him taking the Emerald somewhere -- he was taking it to the outdoor shrine.
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* Similarly, Mania provides an explanation as to why the Master Emerald is in located in the outdoor shrine in ''Sonic Adventure'', as opposed to Hidden Palace. The fact a theft was attempted a second time in the game (by Heavy King this time) made it clear to Knuckles that the location of Hidden Palace had been compromised and the Emerald was no longer safe there, so he decided to keep it in the outdoor shrine from then on, where he can watch it more closely. In the third episode of Mania Adventures, we see him taking the Emerald somewhere -- he was taking it to the outdoor shrine.
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* The Silver Sonics that Metal Sonic sics on you are most likely Eggman's earlier attempts at creating robotic clones of Sonic. With their common origin, they're basically like Metal Sonic's brothers. However rather than cherishing his robot "family", Metal Sonic unsentimentally throws them at you as expendable cannon fodder.

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* The Silver Sonics that Metal Sonic sics on you are most likely Eggman's earlier attempts at creating robotic clones of Sonic. With their common origin, they're basically like Metal Sonic's brothers. However rather than cherishing his robot "family", Metal Sonic unsentimentally throws them at you as expendable cannon fodder.fodder.
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* Some have complained that there was never a fight against the Titanic Monarch, especially in the context of [[spoiler:[[ArrangeMode Encore Mode]]]]... [[spoiler:but then again, you are teleported throughout the Titanic Monarch during Act 2... [[BattleshipRaid who's to say that you aren't disabling or at the very least damaging parts of it as you pass through areas?]] You enter through the head, teleport to 4 areas (which could be the Titanic Monarch's limsb), and then get teleported through a portal in the center of the room, leading to the boss. Considering that the Phantom Ruby is located there, could the boss area be the heart?]] If so, you were fighting the Titanic Monarch the whole time!

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* Some have complained that there was never a fight against the Titanic Monarch, especially in the context of [[spoiler:[[ArrangeMode Encore Mode]]]]... [[spoiler:but then again, you are teleported throughout the Titanic Monarch during Act 2... [[BattleshipRaid who's to say that you aren't disabling or at the very least damaging parts of it as you pass through areas?]] You enter through the head, teleport to 4 areas (which could be the Titanic Monarch's limsb), limbs), and then get teleported through a portal in the center of the room, leading to the boss. Considering that the Phantom Ruby is located there, could the boss area be the heart?]] If so, you were fighting the Titanic Monarch the whole time!
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* Some have complained that there was never a fight against the Titanic Monarch, especially in the context of [[spoiler:[[ArrangeMode Encore Mode]]]]... [[spoiler:but then again, you are teleported throughout the Titanic Monarch during Act 2... [[BattleshipRaid who's to say that you aren't disabling or at the very least damaging parts of it as you pass through areas?]] You enter through the head, teleport to 4 areas (which could be the Titanic Monarch's limsb), and then get teleported through a portal in the center of the room, leading to the boss. Considering that the Phantom Ruby is located there, could the boss area be the heart?]] If so, you were fighting the Titanic Monarch the whole time!
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* The Silver Sonics that Metal Sonic sics on you are most likely Eggman's earlier attempts at creating robotic clones of Sonic. In that sense, they're like Metal Sonic's grandparents. However rather than cherishing his robot "family", Metal Sonic uses them as expendable cannon fodder.

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* The Silver Sonics that Metal Sonic sics on you are most likely Eggman's earlier attempts at creating robotic clones of Sonic. In that sense, With their common origin, they're basically like Metal Sonic's grandparents. brothers. However rather than cherishing his robot "family", Metal Sonic uses unsentimentally throws them at you as expendable cannon fodder.
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* The Hydrocity Zone Act 1 boss essentially equates to chopping Eggman up with a propeller. Good thing the game is so cartoony, or else things would [[LudicrousGibs get rather unpleasant]]!

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* The Hydrocity Zone Act 1 boss essentially equates to chopping Eggman up with a propeller. Good thing the game is so cartoony, or else things would [[LudicrousGibs get rather unpleasant]]!unpleasant]]!
* The Silver Sonics that Metal Sonic sics on you are most likely Eggman's earlier attempts at creating robotic clones of Sonic. In that sense, they're like Metal Sonic's grandparents. However rather than cherishing his robot "family", Metal Sonic uses them as expendable cannon fodder.
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** Relatedly, why is Eggman [[DegradedBoss so much easier to beat in this one?]] Sonic has faster reflexes than the protagonist of ''Mean Bean Machine''.
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* It seems odd at first that Sonic and Co. are completely confused when playing Puyo Puy- I mean, [[VideoGame/DoctorRobotniksMeanBeanMachine Mean Bean Machine]]. Wouldn't they remember the events of the game? Until you realize that A. The game itself took place in [[WesternAnimation/AdventuresOfSonicTheHedgehog another continuity]], and B. It's specifically pointed out in that game that Sonic and Co. was nowhere to be seen during Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine. Of course they won't remember how to play a game they never starred in!
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* As revealed in ''VideoGame/SonicForces'', the truth behind the Phantom Ruby's power is [[spoiler:that it creates powerful illusions that utilize YourMindMakesItReal, to such an extent it can be classified as MindRape]]. Suddenly the title of ''Mania'' [[ThroughTheEyesOfMadness seems very apt...]]

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* As revealed in ''VideoGame/SonicForces'', the truth behind the Phantom Ruby's power is [[spoiler:that it creates powerful illusions that utilize YourMindMakesItReal, to such an extent it can be classified as MindRape]]. Suddenly the title of ''Mania'' [[ThroughTheEyesOfMadness seems very apt...]]]]
* The Hydrocity Zone Act 1 boss essentially equates to chopping Eggman up with a propeller. Good thing the game is so cartoony, or else things would [[LudicrousGibs get rather unpleasant]]!
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* Overlapping with FridgeHorror, in Encore Mode, Metallic Madness and Act 2 of Stardust Speedway use a palette inspired by their respective BadFuture. Why? Because you collected the Chaos Emeralds, not the Time Stones.
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* As revealed in ''VideoGame/SonicForces'', the truth behind the Phantom Ruby's power is [[spoiler:that it creates powerful illusions that utilize YourMindMakesItReal, to such an extent it can be classified as MindRape]]. Suddenly the title of ''Mania'' [[ThroughTheEyesOfMadness seems very apt...]]

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* If the Fire Shield lets the characters [[IncendiaryExponent set fire]] to the oil in Oil Ocean, shouldn't the Water Shield let them walk on top of it?

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* As revealed in ''VideoGame/SonicForces'', the truth behind the Phantom Ruby's power is [[spoiler:that it creates powerful illusions that utilize YourMindMakesItReal, to such an extent it can be classified as MindRape]]. Suddenly the title of ''Mania'' [[ThroughTheEyesOfMadness seems very apt...]]

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* If the Fire Shield lets the characters [[IncendiaryExponent set fire]] to the oil in Oil Ocean, shouldn't the Water Shield let them walk on top of it?
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* If the Fire Shield lets the characters [[IncidiaryExponent set fire]] to the oil in Oil Ocean, shouldn't the Water Shield let them walk on top of it?

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* If the Fire Shield lets the characters [[IncidiaryExponent [[IncendiaryExponent set fire]] to the oil in Oil Ocean, shouldn't the Water Shield let them walk on top of it?
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* As revealed in ''VideoGame/SonicForces'', the truth behind the Phantom Ruby's power is [[spoiler:that it creates powerful illusions that utilize YourMindMakesItReal, to such an extent it can be classified as MindRape]]. Suddenly the title of ''Mania'' [[ThroughTheEyesOfMadness seems very apt...]]

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* As revealed in ''VideoGame/SonicForces'', the truth behind the Phantom Ruby's power is [[spoiler:that it creates powerful illusions that utilize YourMindMakesItReal, to such an extent it can be classified as MindRape]]. Suddenly the title of ''Mania'' [[ThroughTheEyesOfMadness seems very apt...]]]]

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* If the Fire Shield lets the characters [[IncidiaryExponent set fire]] to the oil in Oil Ocean, shouldn't the Water Shield let them walk on top of it?
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* Intentional or not, Mania's seeming success in creating an alternative to Sonic 4 also includes an explanation as to why Metal Sonic would potentially go rogue. [[spoiler: Metal Sonic in ''Adventures'' is shown to be able to comprehend the emotions of his enemies enough to manipulate them via impromptu hostage situation, implying he's definitely getting smarter as time goes on. Between experiencing the power of the Phantom Ruby, being upgraded to be given a Super Form ''and'' Mecha Sonic's ability to siphon power from the Master Emerald, he would probably start seeking out power on his own. Not only that, while Eggman's plan in ''Adventures'' and ''Mania'' proper failed, the one plan he created on his own with no outside assistance succeeded. It's probable that he'd start to see Eggman as the key flaw in the Empire's operation.]]

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* Intentional or not, Mania's seeming success in creating an alternative to Sonic 4 also includes an explanation as to why Metal Sonic would potentially go rogue.rogue in ''VideoGame/SonicHeroes''. [[spoiler: Metal Sonic in ''Adventures'' is shown to be able to comprehend the emotions of his enemies enough to manipulate them via impromptu hostage situation, implying he's definitely getting smarter as time goes on. Between experiencing the power of the Phantom Ruby, being upgraded to be given a Super Form ''and'' Mecha Sonic's ability to siphon power from the Master Emerald, he would probably start seeking out power on his own. Not only that, while Eggman's plan in ''Adventures'' and ''Mania'' proper failed, the one plan he created on his own with no outside assistance succeeded. It's probable that he'd start to see Eggman as the key flaw in the Empire's operation.]]
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* Intentional or not, Mania's seeming success in creating an alternative to Sonic 4 also includes an explanation as to why Metal Sonic would potentially go rogue. [[spoiler: Metal Sonic in ''Adventures'' is shown to be able to comprehend the emotions of his enemies enough to manipulate them via impromptu hostage situation, implying he's definitely getting smarter as time goes on. Between experiencing the power of the Phantom Ruby, being upgraded to be given a Super Form ''and'' Mecha Sonic's ability to siphon power from the Master Emerald, he would probably start seeking out power on his own. Not only that, while Eggman's plan in ''Adventures'' and ''Mania'' proper failed, the one plan he created on his own with no outside assistance succeeded. It's probable that he'd start to see Eggman as the key flaw in the Empire's operation.]]

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