History Fridge / KateAndLeopold

* [[http://natesean.hubpages.com/hub/5-Reasons-Why-The-End-of-Kate-and-Leopold-Is-Actually-Pretty-Depressing A site discussing how they found the ending of the movie depressing]] reviews the basic events of the movie and mixes in some strong speculation about how those events will be interpreted to come up with:
** The media will spin the whole thing to make it sound like Kate was psycho and her company actually attempted to hire her. Because of this, they'll suffer a severe backlash economically.
*** ''Which is quite a stretch to suggest that an entire company will suffer because one of their employees had a possible emotional breakdown.''
** Nurse Gretchen is going to either have her medical license stripped from her or jailed for willingly letting a believed-to-be-insane patient run back out into polite society, therefore endangering both himself and others.
*** ''This assumes that Nurse Gretchen can be found incompetently negligent and aided in Stuart's escape versus her simply providing Stuart a opportunity to escape that he took advantage of''.
** Leopold is MIA and, from the perspective of the NYPD if you consider all the evidence that site lays out, Leopold looks like a monster who conspired with ex-boyfriend Stuart (the aforesaid mental patient) to [[DrivenToSuicide drive an emotionally and mentally unstable woman to jump off of Brooklyn Bridge.]]
*** ''Given that Leopold has no birth certificate, social security number or anything to prove he ever existed this is a stretch''.
** Charlie is going to have a ''hell of a time'' trying to get a job now that people know he was related to a girl who seemingly killed herself in front of him.
*** ''It's pure speculation that Charlie will be implicated in driving his sister to suicide and it seems pretty severe to ostracize a grieving brother that way.''

* Because the inventor of the elevator is brought to modern times using time travel, all elevators start malfunctioning and eventually disappear. One of the characters explicitly brings up that if he is not returned quickly, people will vanish that would have been his descendants. Presumably the same thing would happen to them as did happen to the elevators-first they would all start gaining more severe medical problems until eventually they all died and vanished.

* Don't forget Kate and Leopold themselves. Leopold was supposed to marry into money to pay off family debt. Instead, he married a time traveler, who owns... exactly one dress. It won't be long before the debt collectors show up.
** Except that both Leopold and Kate know with certainty that his elevator invention will be quite successful and they can leverage that knowledge into profitability. Combine that with even a general idea of what New York real estate will be valuable in the future and there exists a strong potential for the Duke to rebuild his finances. They may have some lean years to live through but hardly a Fridge Horror scenario.

*** ''Which is quite a stretch that an entire company will suffer because one of their employees had a possible emotional breakdown.''

*** ''Which assumes that Nurse Gretchen can be found incompetently negligent and just let him go versus her simply providing Stuart a opportunity to escape that he took advantage of''.

** Except that both Leopold and Kate know with certainty that his elevator invention will be quite successful and they can leverage that knowledge into profitability. Combine that with even a general idea of what New York real estate will be valuable in the future and there exists a strong potential for the Duke to rebuild his finances.

*** Which is quite a stretch that an entire company will suffer because one of their employees had a possible emotional breakdown.

*** Which assumes that Nurse Gretchen can be found incompetently negligent versus her simply allowing Stuart a opportunity to escape that he took advantage of.

*** Given that Leopold has no birth certificate, social security number or anything to prove he ever existed this is a stretch.
** Charlie is going to have a ''hell'' of a time trying to get a job now that people know he was related to a girl who seemingly killed herself in front of him.
*** It's pure speculation that Charlie will be implicated in driving his sister to suicide and it seems pretty severe to ostracize a grieving brother that way.

* [[http://natesean.hubpages.com/hub/5-Reasons-Why-The-End-of-Kate-and-Leopold-Is-Actually-Pretty-Depressing A site discussing how the ending of the movie was depressing]] lays these facts down:
--> The media will spin the whole thing to make it sound like Kate was psycho and her company actually attempted to hire her. Because of this, they'll suffer a severe backlash economically.

--> Nurse Gretchen is going to either have her medical license stripped from her or jailed for willingly letting a believed-to-be-insane patient run back out into polite society, therefore endangering both himself and others.

--> Leopold is MIA and, from the perspective of the NYPD if you consider all the evidence that site lays out, Leopold looks like a monster who conspired with ex-boyfriend Stuart (the aforesaid mental patient) to [[DrivenToSuicide drive an emotionally and mentally unstabled woman to jump off of Brooklyn Bridge.]]

--> Charlie is going to have a ''hell'' of a time trying to get a job now that people know he was related to a girl who seemingly killed herself and friends with two men who seemingly drove her to kill herself.

* This is a rare case where fridge logic delayed and altered a film after it was believed finished. In the cut of the movie screened for critics (and also the director's cut released on DVD), Stuart is Leopold's great great grandson. Critics noticed a problem with this plot point that the director hadn't. [[spoiler: When Kate travels back in time with Leopold, she becomes (and always was) Stuart's great great grandmother. This means Stuart had a long (and apparently sexual) relationship with a relative.]] The plot point was edited out to avoid the UnfortunateImplications, which caused the film to miss its announced release date.

* In ''KateAndLeopold'', because the inventor of the elevator is brought to modern times using time travel, all elevators start malfunctioning and eventually disappear. One of the characters explicitly brings up that if he is not returned quickly, people will vanish that would have been his descendants. Presumably the same thing would happen to them as did happen to the elevators-first they would all start gaining more severe medical problems until eventually they all died and vanished.
** Also, how well is Kate going to get along stuck in the 1800s? Her job is completely impossible there, so she has no way to make a living, which leaves her dependent on Leopold (in a time without much in the way of women's rights), and if their relationship should go bad...
** Yeah, Leopold should've made that clear to her. Women of the 21st century have it ''way'' better than women of the 19th century.
** Well, she could've been a school teacher. I know, not as glamerous and awesome as the job she had in our time (not to mention the...oh yeah...''rights'' she had in our time), but she would at least have ''a job'' (though it wouldn't pay her well, if at all.)
*** She's going to be a duchess in the nineteenth century. Why would she work?
*** Because Leopold was marrying for money. Since Kate left the party in just an evening gown and she wasn't even carrying a clutch purse, the happy couple are in as much dire financial straits as Leopold was at the beginning.

--> The media will spin the whole thing to make it sound like Kate was psycho and her company actually attempted to hire her. Because of this, they'll suffer a severe backlash economically. [[OhCrap And seeing as the economy tanked in 2009...]]

[[AC:FridgeLogic]]
* How plausible is it that nobody else would've dreamed up the elevator in Leopold's absence? (In the real world someone else ''did'' invent it. Modern-style safety elevators were actually fairly common in New York City by 1876.)
* If Stuart is Leopold's grandson and Kate and Leopold wind up [[spoiler: marrying in the 19th Century]], doesn't that mean that Stuart spent two years [[spoiler:boning his own grandmother?]]
* Being from the Victorian era, shouldn't Leopold be much more sexist? And at the end when [[spoiler: Kate goes back in time to 1876, doesn't she basically give up all human rights, being a woman and all?]]
** [[spoiler: Women had rights in the Victorian era, though not many. Women couldn't even vote yet despite the fact that the monarch was a queen.]]
** And also, not every man in the 1800s treated women like shit.
** Kate will also at least have the benefit of [[spoiler:being a duchess by marriage, a position that, while still very limited in comparison to the modern day, offers her much more freedom than the average woman of the time would have. She's still kind of screwed if the relationship with Leopold doesn't work out, but since it's a romance we're obviously meant to believe that it will.]]

* How plausible is it that nobody else would've dreamed up the elevator in Leopold's absence? (In the real someone else ''did'' invent it. Modern-style safety elevators were actually fairly common in New York City by 1876.)

** If Stuart is Leopold's grandson and Kate and Leopold wind up [[spoiler: marrying in the 19th Century]], doesn't that mean that Stuart spent two years [[spoiler:boning his own grandmother?]]
** Being from the Victorian era, shouldn't Leopold be much more sexist? And at the end when [[spoiler: Kate goes back in time to 1876, doesn't she basically give up all human rights, being a woman and all?]]
*** [[spoiler: Women had rights in the Victorian era, though not many. Women couldn't even vote yet despite the fact that the monarch was a queen.]]

* [[http://natesean.hubpages.com/hub/5-Reasons-Why-The-End-of-Kate-and-Leopold-Is-Actually-Pretty-Depressing= A site discussing how the ending of the movie was depressing]] lays these facts down:

--> Leopold is MIA and, from the perspective of the NYPD if you consider all the evidence that site lays out, Leopold looks like a [[CompleteMonster complete monster]] who conspired with ex-boyfriend Stuart (the aforesaid mental patient) to [[DrivenToSuicide drive an emotionally and mentally unstabled woman to jump off of Brooklyn Bridge.]]

** Kate will also at least have the benefit of being a duchess by marriage, a position that, while still very limited in comparison to the modern day, offers her much more freedom than the average woman of the time would have. She's still kind of screwed if the relationship with Leopold doesn't work out, but since it's a romance we're obviously meant to believe that it will.

--> Leopold is MIA and, from the perspective of the NYPD if you consider all the evidence that site lays out, Leopold looks like a [[CompleteMonster monster]] who conspired with ex-boyfriend Stuart (the aforesaid mental patient) to [[DrivenToSuicide drive an emotionally and mentally unstabled woman to jump off of Brooklyn Bridge.]]

--> Charlie is going to have a ''hell'' of a time trying to get a job now that people know he was related to a girl who seemingly killed herself and friends with two men who seemingly drove her to kill herself.

--> Leopold is MIA and, from the perspective of the NYPD if you consider all the evidence that site lays out, Leopold looks like a [[CompleteMonster monster]] who conspired with ex-boyfriend Stuart to [[DrivenToSuicide drive an emotionally and mentally unstabled woman to jump off of Brooklyn Bridge.]]

* [[http://natesean.hubpages.com/hub/5-Reasons-Why-The-End-of-Kate-and-Leopold-Is-Actually-Pretty-Depressing= A site discussing the ending of the movie was depressing]] lays these facts down:

--> Leopold is MIA and, from the perspective of the NYPD if you consider all the evidence that site lays out, Leopold looks like a CompleteMonster who conspired with ex-boyfriend Stuart to [[DrivenToSuicide drive an emotionally and mentally unstabled woman to jump off of Brooklyn Bridge.]]

--> Leopold is MIA and, from the perspective of the NYPD if you consider all the evidence that site lays out, Leopold looks like a monster who conspired with ex-boyfriend Stuart to [[DrivenToSuicide drive an emotionally and mentally unstabled woman to jump off of Brooklyn Bridge.]]

--> Nurse Gretchen is going to either have her medical liscence stripped from her or jailed for willingly letting a believed-to-be-insane patient run back out into polite society, therefore endangering both himself and others.

--> The media will spin the whole thing to make it sound like Kate was psycho and her company actually attempted to hire her. Because of this, they'll suffer a severe backlash economically. [[FridgeHorror And seeing as the economy tanked in 2009...]]