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* From the movie: the scene of a naked Shiori gaining butterfly wings. While it's beautifully animated, it's what it ''represents'' that causes the {{Squick}}, mainly her hatred as well as Touga's hatred combining, and the fact that the scene is overlaid with [[spoiler:a child/pre-teen Touga being raped by [[NoYay his adoptive]] [[ParentalIncest father]].]].
* Also from the movie: Anthy and Utena take turns [[PublicExposure sketching each other nude]]. In [[ReluctantFanserviceGirl Utena's]] case she's extremely nervous throughout and covers herself up as soon as it's over, and then tells Anthy that it's only fair that she do the same. [[ShamelessFanserviceGirl Anthy]] agrees and we get the standard DressHitsFloor shot and her beautiful [[SexySilhouette nude silhouette]]... only to see [[spoiler:that Anthy has a ''giant hole in her chest where her brother stabbed her before killing himself'']]! By the same token, the scene of Anthy and her brother turns nightmarish as soon as [[spoiler:[[SlippingAMickey he puts drugs into her drink]] and proceeds to take advantage of her, only to panic when she wakes up and he realizes that she was awake the whole time, leading to him stabbing her and then Akio killing himself]]. Yikes.
* In the movie-manga, Utena comes across a nude drawing of Anthy, which happens to be the only time in any version of the story that BarbieDollAnatomy is averted. However, [[spoiler:as Utena recalls her earlier conversation with Touga about the so-called "prince", a blood-like smear appears on the Anthy drawing, right between her breasts... and then the whole thing melts away]] and Utena learns about the movie-manga's version of Anthy's past with her brother, which plays out in much the same way as it does in the actual movie.
* Finally, the light novels prove that even the most obscure versions of ''Utena'' aren't safe. The idea of a sex scene involving Touga may sound appealing on paper, but it feels downright ''wrong'' to read about him bedding [[spoiler:Miki, of all people]]. The fact that [[spoiler:there is ''extremely'' dubious consent on Miki's part]] makes the scene doubly creepy, not to mention that [[spoiler:Touga is clearly trying to manipulate him into having a drive to participate in the duelling game]]. And [[{{Narm}} it's even, uhm, worse]] when you see an illustration of this scene that has a naked [[spoiler: Touga]]... and [[spoiler: Miki]]'s bare feet.
* Also from the movie: Anthy and Utena take turns [[PublicExposure sketching each other nude]]. In [[ReluctantFanserviceGirl Utena's]] case she's extremely nervous throughout and covers herself up as soon as it's over, and then tells Anthy that it's only fair that she do the same. [[ShamelessFanserviceGirl Anthy]] agrees and we get the standard DressHitsFloor shot and her beautiful [[SexySilhouette nude silhouette]]... only to see [[spoiler:that Anthy has a ''giant hole in her chest where her brother stabbed her before killing himself'']]! By the same token, the scene of Anthy and her brother turns nightmarish as soon as [[spoiler:[[SlippingAMickey he puts drugs into her drink]] and proceeds to take advantage of her, only to panic when she wakes up and he realizes that she was awake the whole time, leading to him stabbing her and then Akio killing himself]]. Yikes.
* In the movie-manga, Utena comes across a nude drawing of Anthy, which happens to be the only time in any version of the story that BarbieDollAnatomy is averted. However, [[spoiler:as Utena recalls her earlier conversation with Touga about the so-called "prince", a blood-like smear appears on the Anthy drawing, right between her breasts... and then the whole thing melts away]] and Utena learns about the movie-manga's version of Anthy's past with her brother, which plays out in much the same way as it does in the actual movie.
* Finally, the light novels prove that even the most obscure versions of ''Utena'' aren't safe. The idea of a sex scene involving Touga may sound appealing on paper, but it feels downright ''wrong'' to read about him bedding [[spoiler:Miki, of all people]]. The fact that [[spoiler:there is ''extremely'' dubious consent on Miki's part]] makes the scene doubly creepy, not to mention that [[spoiler:Touga is clearly trying to manipulate him into having a drive to participate in the duelling game]]. And [[{{Narm}} it's even, uhm, worse]] when you see an illustration of this scene that has a naked [[spoiler: Touga]]... and [[spoiler: Miki]]'s bare feet.
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* Also from the movie: Anthy and Utena take turns sketching each other nude. In [[ReluctantFanserviceGirl Utena's]] case she's extremely nervous throughout and covers herself up as soon as it's over, and then tells Anthy that it's only fair that she do the same. Anthy agrees and we get the standard DressHitsFloor shot and her beautiful nude silhouette... only to see [[spoiler:that Anthy has a ''giant hole in her chest where her brother stabbed her before killing himself'']]! By the same token, the scene of Anthy and her brother turns nightmarish as soon as [[spoiler:[[SlippingAMickey he puts drugs into her drink]] and proceeds to take advantage of her, only to panic when she wakes up and he realizes that she was awake the whole time, leading to him stabbing her and then Akio killing himself]]. Yikes.
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* Also from the movie: Anthy and Utena take turns [[PublicExposure sketching each other nude.nude]]. In [[ReluctantFanserviceGirl Utena's]] case she's extremely nervous throughout and covers herself up as soon as it's over, and then tells Anthy that it's only fair that she do the same. Anthy [[ShamelessFanserviceGirl Anthy]] agrees and we get the standard DressHitsFloor shot and her beautiful [[SexySilhouette nude silhouette...silhouette]]... only to see [[spoiler:that Anthy has a ''giant hole in her chest where her brother stabbed her before killing himself'']]! By the same token, the scene of Anthy and her brother turns nightmarish as soon as [[spoiler:[[SlippingAMickey he puts drugs into her drink]] and proceeds to take advantage of her, only to panic when she wakes up and he realizes that she was awake the whole time, leading to him stabbing her and then Akio killing himself]]. Yikes.
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* ''That'' scene where [[spoiler:Utena's [[TheirFirstTime first time]]... with Akio of all people]] in episode 33. While it's not [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar as super explicit as others]], it's made all the worse by [[{{Ephebophile}} the age difference]] and [[QuestionableConsent dubious]] (or even ''[[RapeAsDrama possible lack of]]'') consent. Honestly, though, while [[spoiler:Akio]] looks like a very attractive guy and has lots of sexual charm in-story, just about all of his sexual relationships (be they overt or implied) have something seriously wrong with them. '''[[{{Deconstruction}} And that's the point.]]'''
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* ''That'' scene where [[spoiler:Utena's [[TheirFirstTime first time]]... with Akio of all people]] in episode 33. While it's not [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar as super explicit as others]], others, it's made all the worse by [[{{Ephebophile}} the age difference]] and [[QuestionableConsent dubious]] (or even ''[[RapeAsDrama possible lack of]]'') consent. Honestly, though, while [[spoiler:Akio]] looks like a very attractive guy and has lots of sexual charm in-story, just about all of his sexual relationships (be they overt or implied) have something seriously wrong with them. '''[[{{Deconstruction}} And that's the point.]]'''
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''Anime/RevolutionaryGirlUtena'' has numerous intentional examples, mainly for the purpose of {{deconstruction}}. Notably, with a certain amount of FridgeHorror applied, even scenes that are ostensibly very fanservicey can turn into this trope -- especially when one remembers how young most of the characters are. Unless of course you are actually ''into'' that kind of stuff.
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* Finally, the light novels prove that even the most obscure versions of ''Utena'' aren't safe. The idea of a sex scene involving Touga may sound appealing on paper, but it feels downright ''wrong'' to read about him bedding [[spoiler:Miki, of all people]]. The fact that [[spoiler:there is ''extremely'' dubious consent on Miki's part]] makes the scene doubly creepy, not to mention that [[spoiler:Touga is clearly trying to manipulate him into having a drive to participate in the duelling game]]. And [[{{Narm}} it's even, uhm, worse]] when you see an illustration of this scene that has a naked [[spoiler: Touga]]... and [[spoiler: Miki]]'s bare feet.
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* Finally, the light novels prove that even the most obscure versions of ''Utena'' aren't safe. The idea of a sex scene involving Touga may sound appealing on paper, but it feels downright ''wrong'' to read about him bedding [[spoiler:Miki, of all people]]. The fact that [[spoiler:there is ''extremely'' dubious consent on Miki's part]] makes the scene doubly creepy, not to mention that [[spoiler:Touga is clearly trying to manipulate him into having a drive to participate in the duelling game]]. And [[{{Narm}} it's even, uhm, worse]] when you see an illustration of this scene that has a naked [[spoiler: Touga]]... and [[spoiler: Miki]]'s bare feet.feet.
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* ''That'' scene where [[spoiler:Utena's [[TheirFirstTime first time]]... with Akio of all people]] in episode 33. While it's not [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar as super explicit as others]], it's made all the worse by [[{{Ephebophile}} the age difference]] and dubious (or even ''[[RapeAsDrama possible lack of]]'') consent. Honestly, though, while [[spoiler:Akio]] looks like a very attractive guy and has lots of sexual charm in-story, just about all of his sexual relationships (be they overt or implied) have something seriously wrong with them. '''[[{{Deconstruction}} And that's the point.]]'''
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* From the movie: the scene of a naked Shiori gaining butterfly wings. While it's beautifully animated, it's what it ''represents'' that causes the {{Squick}}, mainly her hatred as well as Touga's hatred combining, and the fact that the scene is overlaid with [[spoiler:a child/pre-teen Touga being raped by [[{{Shotacon}} his adoptive]] [[ParentalIncest father]].]].
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* From the movie: the scene of a naked Shiori gaining butterfly wings. While it's beautifully animated, it's what it ''represents'' that causes the {{Squick}}, mainly her hatred as well as Touga's hatred combining, and the fact that the scene is overlaid with [[spoiler:a child/pre-teen Touga being raped by [[{{Shotacon}} [[NoYay his adoptive]] [[ParentalIncest father]].]].
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* The biggest example is the relationship between [[spoiler:Akio]] and Anthy, two [[TheBeautifulElite very good-looking people]] whose sex scenes together are pretty standard and even rather romantic-looking stuff... if you forget that [[spoiler:[[BrotherSisterIncest Akio and Anthy are brother and sister]]]]. That alone would be bad enough, but there's even more to it that make it even more twisted. [[ShrinkingViolet Anthy]] turns out to be BeautifulAllAlong, especially when she's [[GodivaHair fully nude]] and [[LettingHerHairDown with her long hair down]]; unfortunately, the reason for said nude scenes is [[SexualHarassmentAndRapeTropes not appealing in]] [[MoreThanMindControl the least]], and she is shown with a frozen, corpse-like stare. (In-universe, [[AlphaBitch Nanami]] and [[ActionGirl Utena]] witness it and do ''not'' [[BreakTheHaughty take]] [[BreakTheCutie it]] [[HeroicBSOD well]].) It's even worse when she was rendered nude again in the finale, only to [[FateWorseThanDeath be]] [[spoiler: ''impaled by a million swords''.]]
* Anything involving the [[spoiler:Akio]] Car in the second half of the series tends to have the same effect, for many of the same reasons. Notable scenes include [[spoiler:Ruka and Shiori having sex in the back of the car, which is part of Ruka's plan to humiliate and discredit her]], and [[spoiler:Touga sexually assaulting ''his own sister Nanami'' in there]].
* ''That'' scene where [[spoiler:Utena's [[TheirFirstTime first time]]... with Akio of all people]] in episode 33. While it's not [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar as super explicit as others]], it's made all the worse by [[{{Ephebophile}} the age difference]] and dubious (or even ''[[RapeAsDrama possible lack of]]'') consent. Honestly, though, while [[spoiler:Akio]] looks like a very attractive guy and has lots of sexual charm in-story, just about all of his sexual relationships (be they overt or implied) have something seriously wrong with them. '''[[{{Deconstruction}} And that's the point.]]'''
* When Utena duels against [[spoiler:Touga for the second time so she can recover Anthy]], she gets a lot of ClothingDamage while wearing [[SailorFuku the standard and very cute female uniform]]. It comes across as far too much like a metaphor for AttemptedRape to be remotely appealing.
* From the movie: the scene of a naked Shiori gaining butterfly wings. While it's beautifully animated, it's what it ''represents'' that causes the {{Squick}}, mainly her hatred as well as Touga's hatred combining, and the fact that the scene is overlaid with [[spoiler:a child/pre-teen Touga being raped by [[{{Shotacon}} his adoptive]] [[ParentalIncest father]].]].
* Also from the movie: Anthy and Utena take turns sketching each other nude. In [[ReluctantFanserviceGirl Utena's]] case she's extremely nervous throughout and covers herself up as soon as it's over, and then tells Anthy that it's only fair that she do the same. Anthy agrees and we get the standard DressHitsFloor shot and her beautiful nude silhouette... only to see [[spoiler:that Anthy has a ''giant hole in her chest where her brother stabbed her before killing himself'']]! By the same token, the scene of Anthy and her brother turns nightmarish as soon as [[spoiler:[[SlippingAMickey he puts drugs into her drink]] and proceeds to take advantage of her, only to panic when she wakes up and he realizes that she was awake the whole time, leading to him stabbing her and then Akio killing himself]]. Yikes.
* In the movie-manga, Utena comes across a nude drawing of Anthy, which happens to be the only time in any version of the story that BarbieDollAnatomy is averted. However, [[spoiler:as Utena recalls her earlier conversation with Touga about the so-called "prince", a blood-like smear appears on the Anthy drawing, right between her breasts... and then the whole thing melts away]] and Utena learns about the movie-manga's version of Anthy's past with her brother, which plays out in much the same way as it does in the actual movie.
* Finally, the light novels prove that even the most obscure versions of ''Utena'' aren't safe. The idea of a sex scene involving Touga may sound appealing on paper, but it feels downright ''wrong'' to read about him bedding [[spoiler:Miki, of all people]]. The fact that [[spoiler:there is ''extremely'' dubious consent on Miki's part]] makes the scene doubly creepy, not to mention that [[spoiler:Touga is clearly trying to manipulate him into having a drive to participate in the duelling game]]. And [[{{Narm}} it's even, uhm, worse]] when you see an illustration of this scene that has a naked [[spoiler: Touga]]... and [[spoiler: Miki]]'s bare feet.
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* The biggest example is the relationship between [[spoiler:Akio]] and Anthy, two [[TheBeautifulElite very good-looking people]] whose sex scenes together are pretty standard and even rather romantic-looking stuff... if you forget that [[spoiler:[[BrotherSisterIncest Akio and Anthy are brother and sister]]]]. That alone would be bad enough, but there's even more to it that make it even more twisted. [[ShrinkingViolet Anthy]] turns out to be BeautifulAllAlong, especially when she's [[GodivaHair fully nude]] and [[LettingHerHairDown with her long hair down]]; unfortunately, the reason for said nude scenes is [[SexualHarassmentAndRapeTropes not appealing in]] [[MoreThanMindControl the least]], and she is shown with a frozen, corpse-like stare. (In-universe, [[AlphaBitch Nanami]] and [[ActionGirl Utena]] witness it and do ''not'' [[BreakTheHaughty take]] [[BreakTheCutie it]] [[HeroicBSOD well]].) It's even worse when she was rendered nude again in the finale, only to [[FateWorseThanDeath be]] [[spoiler: ''impaled by a million swords''.]]
* Anything involving the [[spoiler:Akio]] Car in the second half of the series tends to have the same effect, for many of the same reasons. Notable scenes include [[spoiler:Ruka and Shiori having sex in the back of the car, which is part of Ruka's plan to humiliate and discredit her]], and [[spoiler:Touga sexually assaulting ''his own sister Nanami'' in there]].
* ''That'' scene where [[spoiler:Utena's [[TheirFirstTime first time]]... with Akio of all people]] in episode 33. While it's not [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar as super explicit as others]], it's made all the worse by [[{{Ephebophile}} the age difference]] and dubious (or even ''[[RapeAsDrama possible lack of]]'') consent. Honestly, though, while [[spoiler:Akio]] looks like a very attractive guy and has lots of sexual charm in-story, just about all of his sexual relationships (be they overt or implied) have something seriously wrong with them. '''[[{{Deconstruction}} And that's the point.]]'''
* When Utena duels against [[spoiler:Touga for the second time so she can recover Anthy]], she gets a lot of ClothingDamage while wearing [[SailorFuku the standard and very cute female uniform]]. It comes across as far too much like a metaphor for AttemptedRape to be remotely appealing.
* From the movie: the scene of a naked Shiori gaining butterfly wings. While it's beautifully animated, it's what it ''represents'' that causes the {{Squick}}, mainly her hatred as well as Touga's hatred combining, and the fact that the scene is overlaid with [[spoiler:a child/pre-teen Touga being raped by [[{{Shotacon}} his adoptive]] [[ParentalIncest father]].]].
* Also from the movie: Anthy and Utena take turns sketching each other nude. In [[ReluctantFanserviceGirl Utena's]] case she's extremely nervous throughout and covers herself up as soon as it's over, and then tells Anthy that it's only fair that she do the same. Anthy agrees and we get the standard DressHitsFloor shot and her beautiful nude silhouette... only to see [[spoiler:that Anthy has a ''giant hole in her chest where her brother stabbed her before killing himself'']]! By the same token, the scene of Anthy and her brother turns nightmarish as soon as [[spoiler:[[SlippingAMickey he puts drugs into her drink]] and proceeds to take advantage of her, only to panic when she wakes up and he realizes that she was awake the whole time, leading to him stabbing her and then Akio killing himself]]. Yikes.
* In the movie-manga, Utena comes across a nude drawing of Anthy, which happens to be the only time in any version of the story that BarbieDollAnatomy is averted. However, [[spoiler:as Utena recalls her earlier conversation with Touga about the so-called "prince", a blood-like smear appears on the Anthy drawing, right between her breasts... and then the whole thing melts away]] and Utena learns about the movie-manga's version of Anthy's past with her brother, which plays out in much the same way as it does in the actual movie.
* Finally, the light novels prove that even the most obscure versions of ''Utena'' aren't safe. The idea of a sex scene involving Touga may sound appealing on paper, but it feels downright ''wrong'' to read about him bedding [[spoiler:Miki, of all people]]. The fact that [[spoiler:there is ''extremely'' dubious consent on Miki's part]] makes the scene doubly creepy, not to mention that [[spoiler:Touga is clearly trying to manipulate him into having a drive to participate in the duelling game]]. And [[{{Narm}} it's even, uhm, worse]] when you see an illustration of this scene that has a naked [[spoiler: Touga]]... and [[spoiler: Miki]]'s bare feet.
