History DethroningMoment / MalcolmInTheMiddle

** @/{{Peteman}} Ugh. I know what you mean. Malcom's family claim that society takes advantage of them because they're poor. Maybe if they weren't so irresponsible, they wouldn't be so damn poor. It's like the episode tried to make StockholmSyndrome heartwarming. Why they didn't consider encouraging Malcolm to become a billionaire philanthropist is beyond me. They clearly operate on the "work harder not smarter" premise.

** McKnight: Fourthed. There was even an episode where Malcolm worked up the balls to say "No" to Lois, asking her if she intended to watch over him when he's married or 30 years old. From what I read, only one season after he shows regret for costing Reese a girlfriend, he lists all the horrible things Reese has done to him while Reese himself is in the army. Francis realizes what a horrible person Lois is, and [[CallingTheOldManOut told her in no uncertain terms how much he openly hates her]] before choosing his own path in life. Horrible as life was for him up in Alaska, at least he had the balls to sever ties with Lois. This goes to show how little respect Malcolm has for himself, even though he realizes and resents just as much what a control freak she is and how much a mess their lives are as a result. I would sympathize with other ButtMonkey characters like [[Manga/LoveHina Keitaro Urashima]], [[Magazine/{{MAD}} Monroe]], [[Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion Shinji Ikari]], [[WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy Meg Griffin]], [[Series/EverybodyHatesChris Chris Rock]], [[LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya Kyon, or Mikuru Asahina]]. Malcolm? All I can say is, What an Idiot! I like to imagine that one day, he wises up and betrays his whole family. It's the only thing keeping me from hating this episode more.

* Tropers/{{kay4today}}: The final episode where Lois first rejects a very good job proposal for Malcolm and then tells him that she pretty much planned his life for him and expects him to be president of UsefulNotes/TheUnitedStates. [[FlatWhat What?]] That's so incredibly stupid and selfish I really hoped Malcolm would tell her to shove it up her ass, [[WhatAnIdiot but instead he accepts it and rolls with everything.]] Now, I'm well aware it's about how much your family means to you and that you would do anything to please them, but it's so ridiculous I don't get how this is [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments heartwarming...]]

** McKnight: Fourthed. There was even an episode where Malcolm worked up the balls to say "No" to Lois, asking her if she intended to watch over him when he's married or 30 years old. From what I read, only one season after he shows regret for costing Reese a girlfriend, he lists all the horrible things Reese has done to him while Reese himself is in the army. Francis realizes what a horrible person Lois is, and [[CallingTheOldManOut told her in no uncertain terms how much he openly hates her]] before choosing his own path in life. Horrible as life was for him up in Alaska, at least he had the balls to sever ties with Lois. This goes to show how little respect Malcolm has for himself, even though he realizes and resents just as much what a control freak she is and how much a mess their lives are as a result. I would sympathize with other ButtMonkey characters like [[Manga/LoveHina Keitaro Urashima]], [[Magazine/{{MAD}} Monroe]], [[Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion Shinji Ikari]], [[WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy Meg Griffin]], [[Series/EverybodyHatesChris Chris Rock]], [[LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya Kyon, or Mikuru Asahina]]. Malcolm? All I can say is, WhatAnIdiot! I like to imagine that one day, he wises up and betrays his whole family. It's the only thing keeping me from hating this episode more.

They argue, things are said and they eventually make up, with Hal asking Lois to please not make him do anything to 'his boys'. This is incredibly stupid and infuriating because they honestly need to find a way to stop having children [[GoodPeopleHaveGoodSex because they seem incapable of keeping their hands off each other]]. The revelation in the final episode even has Lois showing a positive pregnancy test, meaning she is pregnant again after having Jamie. I admit, I am a bit fuzzy on the details, but what about a hysterectomy, ie Lois getting rid of her uterus? I recall, it was likely mentioned, but why don't they opt for that? While it is a rather rare thing to happen, vasectomies can revert themselves and the man can produce off-spring again. But with a hysterectomy, a woman cannot re-grow a uterus inside of her. Why not go for a hysterectomy than a vasectomy?\\

** @/{{Peteman}} Ugh. I know what you mean. Malcom's family claim that society takes advantage of them because they're poor. Maybe if they weren't so irresponsible, they wouldn't be so damn poor. It's like the episode tried to make StockholmSyndrome heartwarming. Why they didn't consider encouraging Malcolm into becoming a billionaire philanthropist is beyond me. They clearly operate on the "work harder not smarter" premise.

* Branch_823: The episode where Malcolm gets grounded by Lois for failing to live up to his promise by helping Hal and Dewey with disposing of their couch. It happened because Malcolm decided to stay behind to help Stevie with a school project. To quote Malcolm: "That is so unfair!" But what really pushes this to [=DMoS=] territory is this: the city's residents evacuate to a school gymnasium because the disposal of the family's couch inadvertently triggers an accident that causes a toxic spill. Lois decides to continue to punish Malcolm even in a crisis. And proceeds to humiliate him in front of everyone as a result: from telling ''the entire gymnasium'' that he's grounded, to not letting his friends talk to him, to even forbidding him from getting up from his cot to get back his shoe that a little boy has so he could torment him about his predicament (and to make this even more insulting, a trio of girls witness this and decide to laugh about it because to them, [[SarcasmMode being humiliated is hilarious]]). No wonder Malcolm decides to finally call Lois out. Overall, this was just an overly-infuriating TraumaCongaLine for Malcolm over something like sacrificing helping his family for a school project that would get them ahead in their grades.

* Branch_823: The episode where Malcolm gets grounded by Lois for failing to live up to his promise by helping Hal and Dewey with disposing of their couch. It happened because Malcolm decided to stay behind to help Stevie with a school project. To quote Malcolm: "That is so unfair!" But what really pushes this to [=DMoS=] territory is this: the city's residents evacuate to a school gymnasium because the disposal of the family's couch inadvertently triggers an accident that causes a toxic spill. Lois decides to continue to punish Malcolm even in a crisis. And proceeds to humiliate him in front of everyone as a result: from telling ''the entire gymnasium'' that he's grounded, to not letting his friends talk to him, to even forbidding him from getting up from his cot to get back his shoe that a little boy has so he could torment him about his predicament (and to make this even more insulting, a trio of girls witness this and decide to laugh about it because to them, [[SarcasmMode being humiliated is hilarious]]). No wonder Malcolm decides to finally call Lois out. I don't know the correct term for this, but this was just an overly-infuriating TraumaCongaLine for Malcolm over something like sacrificing helping his family for a school project that would get them ahead in their grades.

* Branch_823: The episode where Malcolm gets grounded by Lois for failing to live up to his promise by helping Hal and Dewey with disposing of their couch. It happened because Malcolm decided to stay behind to help Stevie with a school project. To quote Malcolm: "That is so unfair!" But what really pushes this to [=DMoS=] territory is this: the city's residents evacuate to a school gymnasium because the disposal of the family's couch inadvertently triggers an accident that causes a toxic spill. Lois decides to continue to punish Malcolm even in a crisis. And proceeds to humiliate him in front of everyone as a result: from telling ''the entire gymnasium'' that he's grounded, to not letting his friends talk to him, to even forbidding him from getting up from his cot to get back his shoe that a little boy has so he could torment him about his predicament (and to make this even more insulting, a trio of girls witness this and decide to laugh about it because to them, [[SarcasmMode being humiliated is hilarious]]. No wonder Malcolm decides to finally call Lois out. I don't know the correct term for this, but this was just an overly-infuriating TraumaCongaLine for Malcolm over something like sacrificing helping his family for a school project that would get them ahead in their grades.

* Random Troper: When Lois reveals why her relationship with Francis was so antagonistic. It was because she spent several weeks in the hospital when he was a baby and kept thinking about how much he needed her. But then she gets out and discovers he's perfectly happy being cared for by his dad and she decided to force her baby to need her. That makes no sense. He was a baby and a baby is usually perfectly happy being cared for by anyone. It's not like he understood there was a certain way to feel about others. It seems like she didn't care about her infant son's well-being and was fine with him not being properly cared for so long as his mother came to the rescue. That's just selfish in my opinion.