History DethroningMoment / DisneySitcoms

* Jaden0743: This troper has the a problem with second part of the Liv and Maddie episode Kathy Kan-A-Rooney as it shows how much of a SoreLoser Maddie is as what happen is that she and Joey are playing HORSE with both of them at HORS. (Maddie gave Joey a head start.) Joey quits knowing he's going to lose, only to made a almost impossible shot that Maddie can't copy prompting him to beat Maddie for the first time and swore off sports permanently. Maddie than spends the rest of the episode trying to challange Joey to beat him as she believes there can't be a world where Joey beats her. By the end she gets Joey in contest who can full out the periodic table and here come the part I hate. Maddie than reveals a hidden Tic-Tac-Toe board underneath which she counts as her victory despite Joey's lack of knowledge of the board (He even calls bull on that one) but Maddie still take her "victory" and no one calls her out on it. This episode took Maddie's love for competition and made it like she can't take a loss like a good sport would.

* futuremoviewriter: What annoyed me a bit, but not too much, about "Sonny With a Choice" from ''Sonny with a Chance'' was the ending. Not just because I loved Channy with a passion and hated seeing them end, but because Sonny should have known what to expect and react differently. She let her pride get the better of her, gloated over the ''So Random!'' victory, could tell Chad was having a hard time with it and then not only be surprised when he asked for the recount that determined ''Mackenzie Falls'' actually did win and decide that's the point of no return? I'm sorry but Chad got away with a lot worse than that in the past and for this to be the moment that upset and hurt her the most is asking too much. Sonny knew how thin-skinned Chad was that he was desperate for a solution to the problem and came off as hypocritical for not being more understanding towards him in that moment. Plus, the fact that the recount determined ''So Random!'' wasn't supposed to win in the first place means that Sonny seems to act like hiding that from everyone was not a bad idea and that hints at a surprisingly dishonest approach she would have taken towards the situation. Not terrible, but still pretty annoying as well as HarsherInHindsight given that the next episode ends the show.

* Tropers/SpaceProtagonist: My [=DMoS=] for this show is from, the episode ''Boys in Commotion''. Where do I begin? Oh, I know. The {{Fangirl}}s. Just about every female in the episode was a huge fan of the Boyz in Motion, but also a total {{Jerkass}}, I mean really, no one stopped to think about how the Boys felt about being famous. All they care about is their music. Even Raven's not immune to this. When Bianca dared Raven to bring the Boyz to the concert in person, and Boyz couldn't make it because they decided to temporarily give up their music life, Bianca told the entire school that Raven had let them down. Even after Raven and her friends were willing to impersonate the Boyz to satisfy everyone's demands, and keep them happy, those ungrateful jerks wanted to see the real boys even after Raven apologized, and stated they hated her for getting them to retire. You a**holes! Can't you guys learn to walk in Raven's shoes, and understand her pain over not being able to get them to make it? So the boys couldn't make the concert, so what? It's not the end of the world, but you guys made it seem like it was. And no character development at all! What a waste of good potential.

* SirPellucidar: The ''Series/LizieMcGuire'' episode "Gordo and the Dwarves". Gordo starts playing a D&D style game and gets addicted to it, and the whole thing is treated like a drug metaphor, with him abandoning his friends, losing his grasp on reality, joining a gaming group that is portrayed like a cult, getting bad grades (despite the fact that the leader of said group, Larry Tudgeman, was well-established as being one of the smartest and most academically successful kids in the school), and generally ruining his own life. In the end, his friends stage an intervention, tying him to a chair, torturing him by putting band-aids on his skin and ripping them off, and showing him a montage of him doing stuff like eating junk food, hanging out at the mall, and generally goofing off, and he suddenly repents of his ways and goes back to "enjoying life again." I don't even play D&D, but portraying its players as creepy cult members/drug addicts who don't know what fun is really shows a lot of hate and ignorance.

* Tropers/SpaceProtagonist: My [=DMoS=] for this show is from, the episode ''Boys in Commotion''. Where do I begin? Oh, I know. The {{Fangirl}}s. Just about every female in the episode was a huge fan of the Boyz in Motion, but also a total {{Jerkass}}, I mean really, no one stopped to think about how the Boys felt about being famous. All they care about is their music. Even Raven's not immune to this. When Bianca dared Raven to bring the Boyz to the concert in person, and Boyz couldn't make it because they decided to temporarily give up their music life, Bianca told the entire school that Raven had let them down. Even after Raven and her friends were willing to impersonate the Boyz to satisfy everyone's demands, and keep them happy, those ungrateful jerks wanted to see the real boys even after Raven apologized, and stated they hated her for getting them to retire. You a**holes! Can't you guys learn to walk in Raven's shoes, and understand her pain over not being able to get them to make it? So the boys couldn't make the concert, so what? It's not the end of the world, but you guys made it seem like it was. And no character development at all! What a waste of good potential.

* Animeking1108: ''Series/TheSuiteLifeOfZackAndCody'' and its spin-off were good shows at some point, but one episode really pissed me off. After one of Zack's pranks pisses off Moseby and Tutweiler, they decide to make him a hall monitor so he could learn responsibility. This leads up to the clichéd YellowSashOfPower episode. After Zack starts giving everyone detentions left and right, the episode ends with him in it too. Everyone in the Detention Room clearly has disdain for Zack for his actions, so what happens next? [[MoralEventHorizon Tutweiler deliberately leaves the classroom alone so everyone can beat up Zack]]. How was this woman not fired/sued for letting the students assault him?

* DarthJosh: The episode of ''Series/GoodLuckCharlie'' where Teddy found out that a boy she was dating played [[Franchise/{{Pokemon}} Po-Ki]][[TabletopGame/YuGiOh -Oh]]. Teddy was conflicted, but she decide to even receive training from Gabe on how to play the game just to stay with him. That was setting up for a good GiveGeeksAChance moral, but then they decided to take the Creator/DanSchneider route by revealing the love interest and his friends also engage in [=LARPing=]. That's when Teddy decides to leave him. I know the Aesop was supposed to be 'Be yourself,' but that can easily be misinterpreted as [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop don't]] GiveGeeksAChance [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop because they have weird hobbies]]. Seriously, that's the kind of thing I expected out of something by Creator/DanSchneider. I swear that they had to have had [[StalkerWithACrush Emmett]] finally get creeped out by Teddy as an apology for this wretch of an episode.

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* fairygirl567: Do movies count? Because the ending to Teen Beach Movie 2 was downright horrific! So after spending the entire movie trying to get the characters from the beach movie back into their movies, it makes sense in the context of the movie, and then Mack tells Lela she can make her own choices because Lela had been worrying about not being important or something. So then they all head back and everything seems to return to normal and then we find out Lela did change her destiny, by completely rewriting the movie as a woman empowering movie where she's the lead and Tanner is her boy toy or something and she's queen of the beach, this literally rewrites history and now it's Mack's favorite movie and Brady hasn't watched it before, which is fine and all, but what Lela did was selfish! And not because it was wrong, but because of what she did, Brady and Mack don't remember each other, like at all! And now everything is turned upside down and the events of the first movie are pretty much erased and pointless because it never even happened anymore! And the viewer is supposed to be like dancing around all happy knowing that our two leads have had their brains wiped and don't know each other as well as other unfortunate implications! And there are so many holes in the end like if Lela changed the movies does that mean the actress is different? What happened to the older actors now? This wasn't a story someone wrote and the characters are fake and it doesn't matter, these were played by actors so what happened to them? Why did the writers think this was a good ending? And Tv tropes called it a Happy Estoric Moment, but in reality it's pretty dark.
* Jaden0743: This troper has the a problem with second part of the Liv and Maddie episode Kathy Kan-A-Rooney as it shows how much of a [[SoreLoser Sore Loser]] Maddie is as what happen is that she and Joey are playing HORSE with both of them at HORS. (Maddie gave Joey a head start.) Joey quits knowing he's going to lose, only to made a almost impossible shot that Maddie can't copy prompting him to beat Maddie for the first time and swore off sports permanently. Maddie than spends the rest of the episode trying to challange Joey to beat him as she believes there can't be a world where Joey beats her. By the end she gets Joey in contest who can full out the periodic table and here come the part I hate. Maddie than reveals a hidden Tic-Tac-Toe board underneath which she counts as her victory despite Joey's lack of knowledge of the board (He even calls bull on that one) but Maddie still take her "victory" and no one calls her out on it. This episode took Maddie's love for competition and made it like she can't take a loss like a good sport would.

* Tropers/SpaceProtagonist: My DMoS for this show is from, the episode ''Boys in Commotion''. Where do I begin? Oh, I know. The {{Fangirl}}s. Just about every female in the episode was a huge fan of the Boyz in Motion, but also a total {{Jerkass}}, I mean really, no one stopped to think about how the Boys felt about being famous. All they care about is their music. Even Raven's not immune to this. When Bianca dared Raven to bring the Boyz to the concert in person, and Boyz couldn't make it because they decided to temporarily give up their music life, Bianca told the entire school that Raven had let them down. Even after Raven and her friends were willing to impersonate the Boyz to satisfy everyone's demands, and keep them happy, those ungrateful jerks wanted to see the real boys even after Raven apologized, and stated they hated her for getting them to retire. You a**holes! Can't you guys learn to walk in Raven's shoes, and understand her pain over not being able to get them to make it? So the boys couldn't make the concert, so what? It's not the end of the world, but you guys made it seem like it was. And no character development at all! What a waste of good potential.

* Tropers/{{ading}}: ''Series/SoRandom'' is normally one of the few Disney shows which I rarely find disappointing, with the exception of the "wizards on Wheel of Fortune". Firstly, the skit is with Harry Potter, Gollum, and Bella Swan, even though Gollum and Bella aren't wizards, or even supernatural, to begin with. Secondly, all three characters are {{Flanderized}} into complete idiots for no apparent reason. Also, their Harry Potter impression sounds more like WebVideo/{{Fred}} than Harry Potter. Thirdly, every time Bella tries to answer Edward and Jacob come in and fight over who's going to answer for her. It was funny when it started, but then it continues through the entire skit and it just gets boring.

* Tropers/WhizzerMckwoff: ''Series/ThatsSoRaven'' had something of this in the episode "Five Finger Discount". Cory steals something from a store out of peer pressure, and Raven basically figures out what happened from seeing it, and the way Cory reacts to some stuff the parents say. So what does she do? She sweet-talks him into confessing, saying, "I'm your sister! You can tell me anything and I won't get mad!", and promptly accusing him when he does confess. It's pretty disappointing considering Raven never usually stoops that low, and that the rest of the episode was handled quite well.

* Jaden0743: This troper has the a problem with second part of the Liv and Maddie episode Kathy Kan-A-Rooney as it shows how much of a [[SoreLoser Sore Loser]] Maddie is as what happen is that she and Joey are playing HORSE with both of them at HORS. (Maddie gave Joey a head start.) Joey quits knowing he's going to lose, only to made a almost impossible shot that Maddie can't copy prompting him to beat Maddie for the first time and swore off sports permanently. Maddie than spends the rest of the episode trying to challange Joey to beat him as she believes there can't be a world where Joey beats her. By the end she gets Joey in contest who can full out the periodic table and here come the part I hate. Maddie than reveals a hidden Tic-Tac-Toe board underneath which she counts as her victory despite Joey's lack of knowledge of the board (He even calls bull on that one) but Maddie still take her "victory" and no one calls her out on it. This episode took Maddie's love for competition and made it like she can't take a loss like a good sport would.

* @/{{Midna}}: In one episode of ''Series/WizardsOfWaverlyPlace'', the Russos [[MyFriendsAndZoidberg and Harper]] collaborate to prevent his then-girlfriend Juliet from being dragged off to Monster Jail, which they do by setting up a group of decoy monsters to be captured in her place. Towards the end of the episode, Justin cheerily reports that the decoys were sent to said jail and that Juliet is safe. Everything sounds peachy, right? Well, one of the monsters that was hauled off to rot in a prison cell was Frankengirl, who is not only clearly sentient but was created by Justin himself in an earlier episode and sees him as a father. In other words, [[FridgeHorror Justin was present to witness his own daughter be dragged off to be imprisoned in another dimension for possibly an eternity]], [[AbusiveParents and he didn't give two craps]]. Sure it kept your girlfriend from suffering the same fate, but come on, Justin.
** Tropers/TooBadForU: The episode when Stevie was revealed to be evil, and ultimately got defeated by Alex freezing her and Max accidentally knocking her over and shattering her to pieces, thus most likely killing her. The fact that Stevie turned out to be "evil" was... alright I guess, and sure, freezing someone is a kinda cool and unusual way of beating them, but did they really have to kill her off? The thing that bothers me the most, however, is that no-one even cared that Stevie just died! That was horrible, but the worst still must've been when Max and Justin started to draw things on the face of an unconscious guy who was covered in [[{{Squick}} Stevie's pieces]]. Said guy was Stevie's brother! Okay, they might've been at odds with each other, but still! To wake up and find out that, not only is your only sister dead, [[FridgeHorror but you're lying amidst her frozen parts!]] [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking And your face has been drawn on as well!]]
*** Animeking1108: What annoyed me was the fact that her "evil" plan was to have all Wizards be allowed to use magic and abolish the Competition. [[DesignatedVillain And that's a bad thing, because...?]]
*** legomaniac90: Not only that, the whole Competition setup reeks of UnfortunateImplications already. The fact that we're supposed to root for the person who wishes to keep the status quo over the person who wants to make a genuine reform simply adds more UnfortunateImplications along with a FamilyUnfriendlyAesop to boot ("Kids, if someone wants to change a corrupt system, they're evil and should be stopped!").
*** Manwiththeplan: That episode was just filled with ungodly bad writing. It got what was right and wrong entirely mixed up! [[DesignatedVillain Stevie]] was supposedly wrong and "evil" for daring to rise up against the unfair Wizard Competition (along with others she'd recruited who felt the same way) so that all wizards can keep their magic powers and there'd be less broken wizard families like hers or the Russos around. [[DesignatedHero Alex]] was supposedly "doing the right thing" in [[ManipulativeBastard using Stevie and pretending to still be her friend]] just so she can freeze her and transfer her powers back to her brother. And Justin was supposedly right in hamfistedly declaring that "Stevie is evil and is trying to overtake the entire wizard world" even though she never talked about doing anything of the sort, unless the wizard world is really shallow enough to be kept standing by one stupid competition and it's stupid rules. And Max, who actually wanted to take over the wizard world to be king and is the one who kills Stevie in the end, gets [[KarmaHoudini no punishment or acknowledgement of what he's done wrong.]] And no one cares that Stevie's dead; Alex even makes a joke out of it after Stevie shatters on her unconscious brother! And before that, Alex flat out states that she thinks "people outside the Russos are better." Well, YEAH; this episode proves that in so many ways! This is a DysfunctionalFamily of [[{{Sadist}} sadists]]! If the series had started it's downhill spiral at the start of the third season, this episode is definitely what killed it.
*** Tropers/MathsAngelicVersion: I was never a big fan of the show in the first place, but the moment the show decided to demonize the attempted revolution [[InformedWrongness for no good reason]] is my [=DMoS=] too, and what cemented the show as unwatchable for me. The main characters directly contribute to the destruction of countless families, have an extremely flimsy justification for it[[note]]Justin randomly decides that Stevie is evil and just wants all the power for herself. Even if there were evidence to support this, or they just wanted to be extra cautious not to let the power fall into wrong hands, what was stopping them from ditching the "evil" Stevie and leading the revolution themselves?! And considering that the power is already in terrible hands, even evil-for-no-reason!Stevie taking all the power for herself would be a satisfying middle finger to the terrible wizard government.[[/note]], get away with it and are somehow portrayed as in the right! I mean, if it turned out that the main characters knew that the competition was something awful, but clearly the lesser of two (or more) evils, that would be more acceptable[[note]]Well, if, and that can be a big if, the greater evil(s) make(s) sense.[[/note]]. Of course, there's nothing like this, not even from WordOfGod! Apparently, [[SkewedPriorities keeping the competition around to create drama later on is more important than not making the main characters completely unlikable]]. They never were particularly good people (Alex is too reckless and Justin is a jerk), but this is crossing the MoralEventHorizon. The later drama doesn't even work because I won't care who wins the stupid competition - by defending it, they've shown that [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy they're all too horrible to deserve it]]. I honestly wanted them to [[KarmicDeath die in a freak accident during their competition]]. The most frustrating part? The government is awful, and they never get their comeuppance. Instead of this mess of a storyline, the writers could have used the revolution attempt in the series finale. It'd be great! The main characters finally show their heroic side and stand up to their terrible rulers! Can they come out victorious and put an end to the horrible competitions, or will they fail and face DisproportionateRetribution?
** Tropers/ABlackRaptor: Originally, for me it was the ending of "Wizards Vs Werewolves". However, the series finale is now even worse and essentially replaced the previous moment. Basically, its the same thing: It was a massive copout that bordered on DeusExMachina: Justin wins the wizard competition and earns the right to become a full wizard. But, he interrupts the awarding of it by declaring he doesn't deserve it, because Alex stopped and came back to help him when he got stuck on a bush and helped him get out. So, he declares that she deserves it, but not him. But, so he'll have a happy ending, Professor Crumps announces he's retiring and appoints Justin his replacement, so that he can become a full wizard instead. Ok, [[TranquilFury this infuriates me]]. 1) Since when did Justin ever think Alex deserves the right to be a full wizard? He's made it clear before he doesn't think she deserves magic because she always abuses it. Why? Because she totally does! Alex is always being reckless and causing trouble with magic, to the point she comes off as a DesignatedHero. But, because she saved him, he decides to change his opinion? Didn't he get really mad when others ignored all the bad she did to award her for saving the world once? 2) If they wanted to have Justin give up the power, why not just show the damn scene first instead of flashing back to it? Did they want to make it a plot twist? Well, too bad, they failed! Why didn't they just make it clear before what happened, or better yet, just let her win and give Justin another reason to be awarded the power by Crumps. 3) Why did she even have to win in the first place? Like I said, Alex is constantly abusing magic and causes all the trouble she gets into. Justin isn't [[NotSoDifferent always that much better]], but he's usually only such because Alex does something to set him off. Why not just let Justin win? Oh, because of her and Mason, the boyfriend she would have to break up with. But, he's an immortal werewolf who will apparently never grow up, Twilight Vampire style. She's going to get older, he's not, so eventually they'll have to break up. 4) The Crumps thing came completely out of nowhere. Why not announce at the beginning he was retiring, or a few episodes ago and build up to it? This is the problem with DeusExMachina endings, they can easily be averted by hinting/foreshadowing/building up to it. All in all, the ending was just lazily written.
*** Tropers/{{GreeneMachine92}}: Adding to that, this troper found it extremely irritating that prior to the finale there was an online competition to determine who would win the family wizard title in the finale. This was obviously a ThrowtheDogABone for the fans if they wanted Justin or Max (the episode suggests Justin won this competition) to win, but that's the problem. Why have your DesignatedHero be the winner rather than a character your audience thinks is more deserving? This is especially true if your writing isn't set to teach an AnAesop about competition.
*** Tropers/AntMan: This troper's problem was that the finale showed what a selfish, sociopathic bastard Justin truly is. When Alex convinced them to leave the competition to save Harper and Zeke, they run out of time and get disqualified. From the very start, Justin is in total protest, and this only gets worse after. Apparently he was so desperate to beat his siblings and win that he'd rather just let his friends die?

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* DarthJosh: The episode of ''Series/GoodLuckCharlie'' where Teddy found out that a boy she was dating played [[Franchise/{{Pokemon}} Po-Ki]][[TabletopGame/YuGiOh -Oh]]. Teddy was conflicted, but she decide to even receive training from Gabe on how to play the game just to stay with him. That was setting up for a good GiveGeeksAChance moral, but then they decided to take the DanSchneider route by revealing the love interest and his friends also engage in [=LARPing=]. That's when Teddy decides to leave him. I know the Aesop was supposed to be 'Be yourself,' but that can easily be misinterpreted as [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop don't]] GiveGeeksAChance [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop because they have weird hobbies]]. Seriously, that's the kind of thing I expected out of something by DanSchneider. I swear that they had to have had [[StalkerWithACrush Emmett]] finally get creeped out by Teddy as an apology for this wretch of an episode.

* @/{{Midna}}: In one episode of WizardsOfWaverlyPlace, the Russos [[MyFriendsAndZoidberg and Harper]] collaborate to prevent his then-girlfriend Juliet from being dragged off to Monster Jail, which they do by setting up a group of decoy monsters to be captured in her place. Towards the end of the episode, Justin cheerily reports that the decoys were sent to said jail and that Juliet is safe. Everything sounds peachy, right? Well, one of the monsters that was hauled off to rot in a prison cell was Frankengirl, who is not only clearly sentient but was created by Justin himself in an earlier episode and sees him as a father. In other words, [[FridgeHorror Justin was present to witness his own daughter be dragged off to be imprisoned in another dimension for possibly an eternity]], [[AbusiveParents and he didn't give two craps]]. Sure it kept your girlfriend from suffering the same fate, but come on, Justin.

* Tropers/{{ading}}: ''Series/SoRandom'' is normally one of the few Disney shows which I rarely find disappointing, with the exception of the "wizards on Wheel of Fortune". Firstly, the skit is with Harry Potter, Gollum, and Bella Swan, even though Gollum and Bella aren't wizards, or even supernatural, to begin with. Secondly, all three characters are {{Flanderized}} into complete idiots for no apparent reason. Also, their Harry Potter impression sounds more like {{Fred}} than Harry Potter. Thirdly, every time Bella tries to answer Edward and Jacob come in and fight over who's going to answer for her. It was funny when it started, but then it continues through the entire skit and it just gets boring.

** Jaden0743: This troper has the a problem with second part of the Liv and Maddie episode Kathy Kan-A-Rooney as it shows how much of a [[SoreLoser Sore Loser]] Maddie is as what happen is that she and Joey are playing HORSE with both of them at HORS. (Maddie gave Joey a head start.) Joey quits knowing he's going to lose, only to made a almost impossible shot that Maddie can't copy prompting him to beat Maddie for the first time and swore off sports permanently. Maddie than spends the rest of the episode trying to challange Joey to beat him as she believes there can't be a world where Joey beats her. By the end she gets Joey in contest who can full out the periodic table and here come the part I hate. Maddie than reveals a hidden Tic-Tac-Toe board underneath which she counts as her victory despite Joey's lack of knowledge of the board (He even calls bull on that one) but Maddie still take her "victory" and no one calls her out on it. This episode took Maddie's love for competition and made it like she can't take a loss like a good sport would.

** Jaden0743: This troper has the a problem with second part of the ''Series/Liv and Maddie'' episode Kathy Kan-A-Rooney as it shows how much of a [[SoreLoser Sore Loser]] Maddie is as what happen is that she and Joey are playing HORSE with both of them at HORS. (Maddie gave Joey a head start.) Joey quits knowing he's going to lose, only to made a almost impossible shot that Maddie can't copy prompting him to beat Maddie for the first time and swore off sports permanently. Maddie than spends the rest of the episode trying to challange Joey to beat him as she believes there can't be a world where Joey beats her. By the end she gets Joey in contest who can full out the periodic table and here come the part I hate. Maddie than reveals a hidden Tic-Tac-Toe board underneath which she counts as her victory despite Joey's lack of knowledge of the board (He even calls bull on that one) but Maddie still take her "victory" and no one calls her out on it. This episode took Maddie's love for competition and made it like she can't take a loss like a good sport would.