History DethroningMoment / BuffyTheVampireSlayer

* @/{{emcats}}: As You Were. As far as I'm concerned, there's no episode in the entire show as poorly written as this one. It's not even that the content itself is the most offensive, it's just INSANELY full of plot holes and things that make no sense, all in the seeming effort to wank of Riley and retcon what a jerk he was. First of all, Sam claims it took Riley a year to get over Buffy, and yet just barely over a year since he left he's married? Secondly, his and Sam's story about the Suvolte demon makes no sense. Supposedly they've been tracking this demon since South America... okay, but if the demon just got to Sunnydale, how has someone already built a black market around its' eggs? How would this dealer know where the eggs are? If the dealer stole the eggs, a) how do Sam and Riley even know that and b) how would tracking the demon back to its nest even help? Why waste time trying to track to what would be an empty nest? The tracking idea is at odds with the black market idea. Spike is the one behind it? Spike? The guy who lives in a graveyard, cheats at kitten poker and had to scavenge for his furniture at a junkyard? ''He's'' helming an international demon egg selling ring? Even if we assume he's doing so to get money for Buffy, how is he simultaneously smart enough for that but too stupid to know how to maintain the eggs? And are we SERIOUSLY going to ignore the fact that Riley cheated on Buffy, gave her an ultimatum to forgive him, then left without a word? Are we seriously going to ignore all that horribleness and frame him like "the one that got away"? And then in the next episode we forget about ALL of this, nothing is ever better explained or contextualized, so presumably, we were supposed to take all that nonsense at face value? The entire episode is beyond broken on every single level, it's wild to me that such a weak script ever got further than the planning stages.

* @/{{abomb30}}: The episode "[[{{Recap/BuffyTheVampireSlayerS4E8Pangs}} Pangs]]". All of that horseshit with the Indian spirit. Willow spends the entire episode ranting about how the spirit is justified because of horribly they were treated by the settlers. Because obviously in reality the Natives were completely innocent and the settlers were an entirely guilty party. And because the (cartoonishly evil) actions of some people hundreds of years ago justifies murder. Joss fails history forever. And ever. And ever. The whole episode was bullshit.

* {{dbdude01}}: The end of "[[Recap/BuffyTheVampireSlayerS6E17NormalAgain Normal Again]]" suggests that the entire show is taking place in the mind of a delusional but otherwise normal Buffy, living in a normal world. Let's start with the fact that Buffy reveals for the first time that when she first became a slayer she told her parents and they had her committed. Really? Because when Joyce first saw Buffy kill a vampire, Buffy said "Mom. I'm a vampire slayer" not "See, I told you I was a vampire slayer" Joyce acted like this was a completely new revelation. Major {{Asspull}}. Even if you don't think all-a-dream stories aren't a giant middle finger to the audience, you shouldn't even try it on a show with a spin-off. If the entire series is just a dream, that would mean that Angel and his team are also figments of Buffy's imagination, and their adventures are all happening in her head, even though she isn't there and isn't remotely aware of them. At least when they tried it on Deep Space Nine, they had the decency to go back and confirm that the "normal" world was the hallucination brought on by the BigBad.

* Tropers/{{bjchit}}: Since a few of them already have been mentioned what I think are the show's low points, I'll say when Xander left Anya at the altar. He promised he was marrying her not because he thought the world was going to end in season 5, leaves her because he saw a falsified vision from a demon that wanted revenge on Anya. And his excuse that he doesn't want to be like his {{alcoholic parent}}s doesn't work--he already isn't anything like them.