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* Tropers/WhizzerMckwoff: "White Rice". The episode begins surprisingly strongly. It involves Stan and Francine getting into an argument that results in him taking her to a therapist. Only it's not a therapist, it's a hypnotist he's been taking her to for 19 years! He gets the hypnotist to brainwash her of everything she wants that bothers him, and they go home, as if nothing had happened. Seriously, that's a hilarious storyline! But what happens next? Well, a year later, they go for their annual visit, but the hypnotist causes Francine to wake up and remember everything Stan told him to make her forget just because Stan didn't get him a sandwhich. OK, so the rest of the episode is Francine discovering something she'd been hypnotized to forget, her leaving Stan and him being all apologetic, and it ends with... them discussing the issue originally brought up and Stan finding out it wasn't a big deal. Just... what?! What the hell happened to the hypnotizing storyline? If this was WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy, it would have ended with Francine being rehypnotized, and Stan continually taking her there. It was such a good storyline, but they had to end it without a good old StatusQuoIsGod moment. Just... why?

* Roger's behavior in The Longest Distance Relationship is just terrible. First he screwed over Jeff and made it so he can never be with the love of his life ever! Then he kills Hayley's new love interest! Why do they even put up with him? I would have killed him by now, FreudianExcuse be damned!

** Tropers/Psi001: What punctuates this is that Francine and Greg ''were trying to tell Terry's dad the whole time''. Suddenly when Stan finally does it, it becomes automatically wrong (yeah, in the most blunt and inappropriate manner possible, but it's not like subtlety would change the fact Tank was a homophobic Jerkass) and when the results don't turn out how they intended both Francine and Greg are [[NeverMyFault quick to blame Stan for the whole thing]] (yeah Francine backtracks, but more on a "he doesn't know any better" argument than actually acknowledging the hypocrisy of the matter). The whole plot seemed contrived to follow the "Stan is ''always'' wrong" formula, all seemingly for the sake of a CallBack to him [[CantGetAwayWithNuthin rightfully disapproving of Francine's stupid public behaviour]].

* mysticfire: My DMOS would have to be "Great Space Roaster." I feel like I should explain the episode. It starts out innocently enough with Bullock out of the blue announcing [[ItMakesJustAsMuchSenseinContext that a CIA family will go to space to study Chia Pets for a year.]] At the same time, Roger announces his displeasure at the Smiths' plan to give him a bowling birthday party for his 1601st birthday (which in this troper's opinion is actually a rather fun way to spend a birthday). They ask him what he wants, and he says he wants a roast, "like all the greats." That's right, he means a roast as in where everyone gathers around to poke fun at the recipient. They ask him at least twice if he's okay with this, and he says it is what he wants. The family then proceeds to give him an admittedly funny roast, and Roger (who has been wearing sunglasses the whole time) reveals that he was crying, feels insulted, and leaves in a huff. Then, in a Roger way, he pretends to turn it all around because of their comments, with the Smiths being understandably suspicious of his true intentions. He then spends the remainder of the episode trying to kill the Smiths because his feelings were hurt, and the family actually feels bad for him. Again, he ASKED for this roast. After a couple of failed attempts to murder them, the Smiths become the family to be sent into space. Long story short, Roger follows them there, hunts them down, and then ''forces them to roast each other'' so they would "feel his pain" or something. Then the Smiths are laughing at each other and they're all "Roger was hurt because he feels like we don't love him" or something equally stupid. Conclusion: Roger is once again a despicable KarmaHoudini and we are forced to watch this drivel over Roger's reaction for, once again, ''something that he asked for.''

* Tropers/WhizzerMckwoff: "White Rice". The episode begins surprisingly strongly. It involves Stan and Francine getting into an argument that results in him taking her to a therapist. Only it's not a therapist, it's a ''hypnotist'' he's been taking her to for 19 years! He gets the hypnotist to brainwash her of everything she wants that bothers him, and they go home, as if nothing had happened. Seriously, that's a hilarious storyline! But what happens next? Well, a year later, they go for their annual visit, but the hypnotist causes Francine to wake up and remember everything Stan told him to make her forget just because Stan didn't get him a sandwhich. OK, so the rest of the episode is Francine discovering something she'd been hypnotized to forget, her leaving Stan and him being all apologetic, and it ends with... them discussing the issue originally brought up and Stan finding out it wasn't a big deal. Just... ''what?!'' What the hell happened to the hypnotizing storyline? If this was WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy, it would have ended with Francine being rehypnotized, and Stan continually taking her there. It was such a good storyline, but they had to end it without a good old StatusQuoIsGod moment. Just... why?

* Tropers/{{KOman}}: "The Scarlet Getter" was one of Stan's worst episodes. Scarlett Reynolds, Stan's crush from CIA camp, arrives at Langley Falls as an alien hunter. Seeing her brings back all the affection Stan had for her... in the ''worst'' way possible. He brutally insults Roger for even ''considering'' dating Scarlett, openly fawns over her to his ''wife'' Francine with no concern about her feelings, and makes it clear that he'd love to get rid of Francine (even hinting that he wants her to die) so he can be single again. Francine and Roger get back at him by having Roger use a handsome persona to start a relationship with Scarlett, leaving Stan to accept that she's taken and go back to his wife. Instead, he complains about being stuck with Francine again and attempts to sabotage Roger's date by spewing embarrassing lies about him. When this fails, he wants to lock Roger in the attic, and when Roger rightfully defies him, he alerts another alien hunter to Roger's presence. ''[[MoralEventHorizon He set up Roger to get killed just so he could maintain his possessive crush on Scarlett]]''. Ultimately, it turns out that Scarlett was aware that Roger was an alien and dissected him the night they were supposed to have sex. Wanting to keep Roger's body for herself, she gets ready to kill Stan. We're supposed to feel sorry for him when Scarlett admits that she's never given a shit about Stan, but after his borderline {{Yandere}} behavior throughout the episode, it feels like richly deserved karmic retribution.

** Tropers/KOman: I am able to accept what you guys called the DMOS because this episode was specifically aiming to be a TearJerker. What I would consider a DMOS is Roger's behavior. He is against getting a pet simply because he can't stand the thought of [[AttentionWhore something else taking the family's attention]] from him. When Klaus asks if he could be considered a pet, Roger replies that [[KickTheDog he can't be a pet because nobody loves him]], bringing [[TheWoobie Klaus]] to tears. When Kisses is crushed by [[DiabolusExNihilo a hot air balloon full of pirate cats]] (who, as another DMOS, [[KarmaHoudini never get any comeuppance]]) and the Smiths are horrified to see Kisses on life support, Roger is ''barely hiding laughter''. When Stan brings home [[BodyHorror the new Kisses]], Roger laughs again and says the dog can stay if it's like that, despite it traumatizing Francine and Steve. There is ''no'' justification for Roger's attitude in this episode beyond him being a self-centered, sadistic asshole, and it really made me want to see Roger suffer the same fate.
* {{Halfstep}} The episode "Less Money, Mo Problems". Honestly, IMO, most of [=MacFarlane=]'s points are made by [[StrawCharacter over-exaggerating the stupidity of the opposing side and/or attributing things to them that they don't actually believe]]: that is to say, they're poorly made. However, this episode marked the end of me even viewing anything [=MacFarlane=] related in passing. In short, after Jeff uses up all of the things that Stan paid for, Stan, Jeff, and Hayley get in an argument, wherein a bet is made that if Stan and Francine can live on minimum wage for a month, then Jeff and Hayley will leave, however if they cannot, then Jeff and Hayley get to stay with Stan and Fran indefinitely. The bet proper ends after two days, when they are flat broke, and Francine calls it quits and goes home. The episode drags on for another 15 minutes, with the typical blundering by Stan, until he is forced to break into his own house, looking like a bum, and is almost stabbed by Jeff, who, BTW, is eating a sandwich that Stan basically paid for. Where to freaking begin with this: this troper has in fact lived on minimum wage, by himself, paid rent, went to work, brought food, clothes, paid utilities. Let me say now, it is not fun - you buy the lowest quality food, there are nights when your stomach growls, you have to walk a lot of places, the apartments you can get on minimum wage aren't the greatest. I wouldn't advise that anyone make it a career goal in life. But ''it can be done.'' Once again, I'm not saying it's great, and indeed, am on the side of the argument that is for stopping runaway inflation to make dollars stretch farther (something that was never even suggested in the episode). However, as far as being an aesop against the low minimum wage, it fails miserably. The moral of this episode isn't "it's impossible to live on minimum wage, so we need to raise it so the poor can climb the ladder easier," it's "it's impossible to live on minimum wage if you're Stan Smith, who is stupid enough to blow a third of his monthly income on an apartment, a third of it on a car, the remainder of it on frivolous stuff, and not even have the common sense to at least try to go to a work-today/paid-today place (those places aren't great either, but when you gotta do what you gotta do...) to get extra money." On top of that, even if you consider that Stan was a complete idiot in the latter half of the episode, he was ''100% right'' at the beginning: his wife (who consents to being a non-working housewife) and Steve are entitled to use the stuff he works for, being a housewife and minor. Jeff and Hayley are adults, and quite honestly, he's doing them a big solid by allowing them to stay there in the first place (I am aware of the episode "There Will Be Bad Blood", and why he is allowing them to stay there). That said, the idea that Stan could be wrong simply because he asks Jeff to not use inordinate amounts of supplies that Jeff is not working for, or paying for in any way... it could only happen in a [=MacFarlane=] cartoon.

** Psi001: Did we mention that Jeff, usually a dumb but fairly likeable, was transformed into an inconsiderate RightlySelfRighteous asswipe for this one episode just to make the Aesop ''completely and utterly'' insufferable? Seriously we're used to Hayley smugly getting the universe falling in her favor all the time, but now they skew any of Stan's foes into a JerkAss just so you can't root for them while he gets his supposed comeuppance.

** ashleybud: There is so much more wrong with that episode that it is baffling, though the writers seems to have realized this because it was addressed in the recent episode. I’m also aware of why he let them back in but Hayley and Jeff stole Stan's life saving and pissed it all away so he is basically working paycheck to paycheck now. Plus eating all of his food wasn’t the only thing Jeff was doing; he comes in 3 in the morning blasting the TV keeping Stan up, so not only is he struggling to pay the bills, he’s dead tired. What really pissed me off about the episode is that it has already been firmly established that Stan knows very well how hard it is to survive on minimal wage. His father abandoned him and his mother as a child and his mother blatantly told him it was his fault and forced him to do all the things she should have done. Paying the bills, doing the taxes, fixing the house, etc. In "A.T. the Abusive Terrestrial", they even showed that when Hayley was a baby Stan and Francine collected cans for extra money. Stan knows how hard it is; in fact, it is his most defining characteristic. The stress of taking care of his mother caused him to grind his teeth and develop horrible acne, which in turn caused to be ridiculed at school. This is why he so obsessed with appearance, popularity, perfection, and his aggressive personality. He’s such a devote republican because his dad told him some bulls**t lie about a spy. His mother was so narcissistically focused on herself that she never even bothered to teach him about sex. He learned about it from some random stranger which is why he is so repressed. Unlike Peter, Stan had a very good FreudianExcuse and to try and make a point the writers ruined it. Finally, Hayley is the last person to be speaking on the hardship of minimum wage. Neither she nor Jeff have ever worked a day in their lives, Stan has always paid for every facet of her life. And once again she stole his life saving and spent it in a month.

* [=jessicadicicco610=]: You know how the show was initially accused of being a Family Guy knockoff? Well, the TBS seasons prove this, as shown with "No Weddings And A Funeral". It's essentially the show's equivalent of "Seahorse Seashell Party". Why? Let me explain. Klaus feels like he's not appreciated by the family. It's revealed in the future that he died , and the family is told by a nun (actually Klaus in disguise) to hold a funeral for him. However, they can't think of how to honor him. The main problem with the episode is with how unlikable and spiteful everyone is. The family treats Klaus as lower than a human. I mean, they even try to throw him down the sink drain. They're constantly arguing with each other to the point you're glad if they stay permanently split. They don't even pretend to show care. Klaus himself is no better given how any good intentions are flushed down the drain when he takes sadistic glee in torturing the family rather than showing tough love. The ending is what kills the episode, where the family bonds over making Klaus miserable, and he likes it. He essentially likes being a lightning rod for the family's dysfunction since that's how he's apparently useful. This is just bad all around.

Since WesternAnimation/AmericanDad is more of a political-based cartoon, it's considered to be more acceptable for political beliefs to be found in Creator/SethMacFarlane's second FOX cartoon. Still, this show's found to find some faults for viewers somewhere.

* Tropers/CapriciousSalmon: I've changed my DMOS multiple times. I thought about changing my Kloger post to A Boy Named Michael, but I think "Rubberneckers" deserves it because it hits way too close to home. The plot of the episode is that Stan friends teach him how to look at women on the sly or "rubberneck" when Francine is around, since Francine doesn't want Stan looking at other women. If the episode just stuck to that, I wouldn't mind, since AD is no stranger to crossing the line twice. But because this is Stan, they have to take it UpToEleven and have Stan instead take a bunch of pictures of an unsuspecting jogger and then get into a car wreck and go to trial for insurance fraud when he lies to the insurance company about why he got into the accident. The guest appearance by Terry Crews was cool, but even he couldn't save the episode. Stan tries to fight it by saying rubbernecking is fine because "all men do it" and "his eyes may wander but his heart comes home." And the episode agrees with him. Um, that's not what Stan was doing, and just because everybody does it does not mean it's ok. It felt like the episode ignored or forgot what he did so it could teach a super CluelessAesop. If you want an explanation, Stan did something super inappropriate he should definitely be getting legal action for. I'm a woman who is no stranger to getting harassed or receiving unwanted attention on account of my looks or what I wear. If I found out some dude was taking pictures of me when I'm on the street like Stan was, I would definitely want him to get in trouble for it.

* {{Halfstep}} The episode "Less Money, Mo Problems". Honestly, IMO, most of [=MacFarlane=]'s points are made by [[StrawCharacter over-exaggerating the stupidity of the opposing side and/or attributing things to them that they don't actually believe]]: that is to say, they're poorly made. However, this episode marked the end of me even viewing anything [=MacFarlane=] related in passing. In short, after Jeff uses up all of the things that Stan paid for, Stan, Jeff, and Haley get in an argument, wherein a bet is made that if Stan and Francine can live on minimum wage for a month, then Jeff and Haley will leave, however if they cannot, then Jeff and Haley get to stay with Stan and Fran indefinitely. The bet proper ends after two days, when they are flat broke, and Francine calls it quits and goes home. The episode drags on for another 15 minutes, with the typical blundering by Stan, until he is forced to break into his own house, looking like a bum, and is almost stabbed by Jeff, who, BTW, is eating a sandwich that Stan basically paid for. Where to freaking begin with this: this troper has in fact lived on minimum wage, by himself, paid rent, went to work, brought food, clothes, paid utilities. Let me say now, it is not fun - you buy the lowest quality food, there are nights when your stomach growls, you have to walk a lot of places, the apartments you can get on minimum wage aren't the greatest. I wouldn't advise that anyone make it a career goal in life. But ''it can be done.'' Once again, I'm not saying it's great, and indeed, am on the side of the argument that is for stopping runaway inflation to make dollars stretch farther (something that was never even suggested in the episode). However, as far as being an aesop against the low minimum wage, it fails miserably. The moral of this episode isn't "it's impossible to live on minimum wage, so we need to raise it so the poor can climb the ladder easier," it's "it's impossible to live on minimum wage if you're Stan Smith, who is stupid enough to blow a third of his monthly income on an apartment, a third of it on a car, the remainder of it on frivolous stuff, and not even have the common sense to at least try to go to a work-today/paid-today place (those places aren't great either, but when you gotta do what you gotta do...) to get extra money." On top of that, even if you consider that Stan was a complete idiot in the latter half of the episode, he was ''100% right'' at the beginning: his wife (who consents to being a non-working housewife) and Steve are entitled to use the stuff he works for, being a housewife and minor. Jeff and Haley are adults, and quite honestly, he's doing them a big solid by allowing them to stay there in the first place (I am aware of the episode "There Will Be Bad Blood", and why he is allowing them to stay there). That said, the idea that Stan could be wrong simply because he asks Jeff to not use inordinate amounts of supplies that Jeff is not working for, or paying for in any way... it could only happen in a [=MacFarlane=] cartoon.

* Tropers/Jubbz: Okay. Sooooo... in the episode "Naked To the Limit, One More Time..." the episode ended up going down a path that led to a potential tear jerker for Roger, and I don't even like him at all since he's such a KarmaHoudini. [[spoiler: So Roger has to go home to his home planet because Jeff figured out that Roger's an Alien and Jeff is a blabbermouth, so someone had to go. Roger volunteers to go to his home planet, and when the alien ship comes to pick Roger up, he takes the opportunity to toss Jeff into the beam of light, and that automatically solves the initial problem of the family secret (housing an alien). I don't care for Jeff much, but seeing Roger screw him over so blatantly, and leaving Haley as an emotional wreck]] really pissed me off. At this point, I know it's just a pipe dream, but I hope Roger beaten beyond belief, and expel all of that bitchy bile he's got stored.

* /{{Collectionchange}}: "Minstrel Krampus", an episode with the glaringly wrong "aesop" (that they hammer into us repeatedly throughout) that abuse makes kids grow up well, when it has long since been found that it does the exact opposite. Also, the entire plot was absolutely pathetic and unfunny, from beggining to end, including the b-plot of Haley looking for a Christmas gift. Also, I felt that changing Santa from a vengeful antagonist to just a corrupt bastard was a waste, watching Santa return for vengeance for a couple Christmas episodes would've been more fun than this. I must admit I like the "Bad Boy Song" though...
* Roger's behavior in The Longest Distance Relationship is just terrible. First he screwed over Jeff and made it so he can never be with the love of his life ever! Then he kills Haley's new love interest! Why do they even put up with him? I would have killed him by now, FreudianExcuse be damned!

** fruitstripegum: Not to mention, rodents are incapable of vomiting.

* Tropers/CapriciousSalmon: I've changed my DMOS multiple times. I thought about changing my Kloger post to A Boy Named Michael, but I think "Rubberneckers" deserves it because it hits way too close to home. The plot of the episode is that Stan friends teach him how to look at women on the sly or "rubberneck" when Francine is around, since Francine doesn't want Stan looking at other women. If the episode just stuck to that, I wouldn't mind, since AD is no stranger to crossing the line twice. But because this is Stan, they have to take it UpToEleven and have Stan instead take a bunch of pictures of an unsuspecting jogger and then get into a car accident and go to trial for insurance fraud when he lies to the insurance company about why he got into the wreck. Stan tries to fight it by saying rubbernecking is fine because "all men do it" and "his eyes may wander but his heart comes home." And the episode agrees with him. Um, that's not what Stan was doing, and just because everybody does it does not mean it's ok. It felt like the episode ignored what he did. If you want an explanation, Stan did something super inappropriate he should definitely be getting legal action for. I'm a woman who is no stranger to getting harassed or getting unwanted attention on account of my looks or what I wear, and it makes me really uncomfortable. If I found out some dude was taking pictures of me when I'm on the street like Stan was, I would definitely want him to get in trouble for it.

* {{Kaiserpluto}}: We finally get a rather large one from Greg and Terry. Yes, the Roger things with the kid and such but that's something we expect from him. But Terry was willing to kill Roger (who he thought was a kid) just to avoid Greg knowing he likes Ho-ho and when he called Greg to tell his version of events Greg just responded to not sweating it as the kid didn't fit in. That right there is messed up.