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There is no actual evidence that the Great Will and the Axiom are the same thing, especially since they have different Japanese names that mean different things.


* The Bonds Ending is even better than the Massacre Ending. Nanashi teams up with the Mikado samurai Flynn, Jonathan and Walter (both restored thanks to Satan, who is comprised of both Merkabah and Lucifer) to take YHVH down. It is revealed that YHVH is a rogue avatar of the Axiom, (known as the Great Will in earlier titles and is SMT's SentientCosmicForce) the Axiom is ''[[GodIsGood benevolent]]'' and Nanashi and Flynn are messiahs created by the Axiom to defeat YHVH and stop him from oppressing humanity. In the aftermath the people of Tokyo and Mikado work together in harmony with the fairies to ensure a long lasting peace.

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* The Bonds Ending is even better than the Massacre Ending. Nanashi teams up with the Mikado samurai Flynn, Jonathan and Walter (both restored thanks to Satan, who is comprised of both Merkabah and Lucifer) to take YHVH down. It is revealed that YHVH is a rogue avatar of the Axiom, (known as the Great Will in earlier titles and is SMT's SentientCosmicForce) [[SentientCosmicForce Axiom]], the Axiom is ''[[GodIsGood benevolent]]'' and Nanashi and Flynn are messiahs created by the Axiom to defeat YHVH and stop him from oppressing humanity. In the aftermath the people of Tokyo and Mikado work together in harmony with the fairies to ensure a long lasting peace.
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* Hallelujah revealing his powers. During the Mikado Infiltration mission, the party gets caught and has their gear taken from them. Only Nanashi can summon demons without a Smartphone, so their first move is to retrieve their weapons from the Monastery, where Azrael is waiting. After a brief skirmish, Azrael [[JustYouAndMeAndMyGuards summons an army of angels]] to attack. The player is then treated to several rounds of dialogue options where if [[MortonsFork Nanashi attacks the army, he's left open to Azrael's attack, and if Nanashi tries to push through to Azrael, the army pushes him back]]. With no weapons and their only fighter overrun by angels, it looks like there's no hope left for the party... and that's when Hallelujah steps up to plate. Hallelujah, the support party member with [[ThisLooksLikeAJobForAquaman niche skills]] and no offensive abilities, reveals himself to be a powerful demon. His first move? ''Wiping out the entire angel army with a single cast of Megidolaon''. His second is to act as Nanashi's partner for the Azrael boss fight, throwing True Bufudyne after True Bufudyne at Azrael.

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* Hallelujah revealing his powers. During the Mikado Infiltration mission, the party gets caught and has their gear taken from them. Only Nanashi can summon demons without a Smartphone, so their first move is to retrieve their weapons from the Monastery, where Azrael is waiting. After a brief skirmish, Azrael [[JustYouAndMeAndMyGuards summons an army of angels]] to attack. The player is then treated to several rounds of dialogue options where if [[MortonsFork Nanashi attacks the army, he's left open to Azrael's attack, and if Nanashi tries to push through to Azrael, the army pushes him back]]. With no weapons and their only fighter overrun by angels, it looks like there's no hope left for the party... and that's when Hallelujah steps up to plate. Hallelujah, the support party member with [[ThisLooksLikeAJobForAquaman niche skills]] and no offensive abilities, reveals himself to be a powerful demon. His first move? ''Wiping out the entire angel army with a single cast of Megidolaon''. His second is to act as Nanashi's partner for the Azrael boss fight, throwing True Bufudyne after True Bufudyne at Azrael.Azrael.
* Nanashi claiming the Throne in the Cosmic Egg on Anarchy. Mere moments after sitting on it, he reshapes the interior of the throne room to his will, changing it from a mass of viscera to a starry sky.
** It's subtle, but oddly effective: if Nanashi reenters the throne room, even the narration refers to it as ''his'' throne. Then he sleeps on it to heal the party, but it's a chilling reminder that he's now a god, and [[AGodAmI knows it]].
--> You sit on your throne and sigh deeply.
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* The Massacre Ending may be a TearJerker GodzillaThreshold all the way through, but you cannot deny it is '''''completely metal.''''' Nanashi lives up to his title of [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu God-killer]] ''[[UpToEleven with extreme prejudice]]'', killing ''every'' deity in the world, including YHVH, [[DeaderThanDead permanently]], and so permanently frees the world from any form of divine oppression. (Arguable, since you do this in order to become the unrivaled god yourself). It's also the hardest route in the game, so even ''seeing'' this makes ''you, the player'', awesome.

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* The Massacre Ending may be a TearJerker GodzillaThreshold all the way through, but you cannot deny it is '''''completely metal.''''' Nanashi lives up to his title of [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu God-killer]] ''[[UpToEleven with ''with extreme prejudice]]'', prejudice'', killing ''every'' deity in the world, including YHVH, [[DeaderThanDead permanently]], and so permanently frees the world from any form of divine oppression. (Arguable, since you do this in order to become the unrivaled god yourself). It's also the hardest route in the game, so even ''seeing'' this makes ''you, the player'', awesome.
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* Every time you beat Twisted Tokyo, the dungeon resets and you can fight the Fiends again, except they've become stronger. And you can keep kicking their asses again and again, until their levels are all in the high 900's, with En no Ozuno at level '''999''' [[AbsurdlyHighLevelCap (to compare, the final boss is level 100 and can be beaten with a level 99 party)]]. And yes, people have beaten him at that level.

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* Every time you beat Twisted Tokyo, the dungeon resets and you can fight the Fiends again, except they've become stronger. And you can keep kicking their asses again and again, until their levels are all in the high 900's, with En no Ozuno at level '''999''' [[AbsurdlyHighLevelCap (to compare, the final boss is level 100 and can be beaten with a level 99 party)]]. And yes, people have beaten him at that level.level.
* Hallelujah revealing his powers. During the Mikado Infiltration mission, the party gets caught and has their gear taken from them. Only Nanashi can summon demons without a Smartphone, so their first move is to retrieve their weapons from the Monastery, where Azrael is waiting. After a brief skirmish, Azrael [[JustYouAndMeAndMyGuards summons an army of angels]] to attack. The player is then treated to several rounds of dialogue options where if [[MortonsFork Nanashi attacks the army, he's left open to Azrael's attack, and if Nanashi tries to push through to Azrael, the army pushes him back]]. With no weapons and their only fighter overrun by angels, it looks like there's no hope left for the party... and that's when Hallelujah steps up to plate. Hallelujah, the support party member with [[ThisLooksLikeAJobForAquaman niche skills]] and no offensive abilities, reveals himself to be a powerful demon. His first move? ''Wiping out the entire angel army with a single cast of Megidolaon''. His second is to act as Nanashi's partner for the Azrael boss fight, throwing True Bufudyne after True Bufudyne at Azrael.
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* When Asahi has a HeroicBSOD with her father's death, and believing herself to be TheLoad, Gaston takes it too far and mock and insult her for it (actually he ''was'' trying to comfort her in his own way, but with him being the way he is, he worded it very, ''VERY'' poorly). Hallelujah has none of it and ''slugs him in the face.'' It's satisfying to see the [[{{Jerkass}} magnificent ass]] finally get what's coming to him, not to mention this triggers the beginning of his CharacterDevelopment.

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* When Asahi has a HeroicBSOD with her father's death, and believing herself to be TheLoad, Gaston takes it too far and mock mocks and insult her for it (actually he ''was'' trying to comfort her in his own way, but with him being the way he is, he worded it very, ''VERY'' poorly). Hallelujah has none of it and ''slugs him in the face.'' It's satisfying to see the [[{{Jerkass}} magnificent ass]] finally get what's coming to him, not to mention this triggers the beginning of his CharacterDevelopment.
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* When Asahi has a HeroicBSOD with her father's death, and believing herself to be TheLoad, Gaston decides to take it too far and mock and insult her for it. Hallelujah has none of it and ''slugs him in the face.'' It's satisfying to see the [[{{Jerkass}} magnificent ass]] finally get what's coming to him, not to mention this triggers the beginning of his CharacterDevelopment.

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* When Asahi has a HeroicBSOD with her father's death, and believing herself to be TheLoad, Gaston decides to take takes it too far and mock and insult her for it.it (actually he ''was'' trying to comfort her in his own way, but with him being the way he is, he worded it very, ''VERY'' poorly). Hallelujah has none of it and ''slugs him in the face.'' It's satisfying to see the [[{{Jerkass}} magnificent ass]] finally get what's coming to him, not to mention this triggers the beginning of his CharacterDevelopment.
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* Hallelujah revealing his demonic powers against Azrael and deciding to reject his father. It's the moment that he decide that he'll follow whoever he feels is right and he openly states that if Nanashi goes the wrong way, he'll be the one to stop him.

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* Hallelujah revealing his demonic powers against Azrael Shemyaza and deciding to reject his father. It's the moment that he decide that he'll follow whoever he feels is right and he openly states that if Nanashi goes the wrong way, he'll be the one to stop him.

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* No matter which path you take, they both lead to the one countless Megaten fans have waited well over a decade to fight: [[spoiler: YHVH. God Almighty in His purest form, which hasn't been seen since ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII''.]] It is rather telling that Atlus used his return as a ''selling point'', particularly [[NoExportForYou in North America where players never officially got to fight him]] in ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII''.

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* No matter which path you take, they both lead to the one countless Megaten fans have waited well over a decade to fight: [[spoiler: YHVH. God Almighty in His purest form, which hasn't been seen since ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII''.]] It is rather telling that Atlus used his return as a ''selling point'', particularly [[NoExportForYou in North America where players never officially got to fight him]] in ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII''.



** According to a Database entry, Shesha smashing the Firmament open also [[spoiler:stops the [[YearOutsideHourInside time distortion]] that causes time outside Tokyo to tick 75 times faster than inside, allowing both sides of the Firmament to move through time as one again. Shesha ''restabilized time and space''.]]

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** According to a Database entry, Shesha smashing the Firmament open also [[spoiler:stops stops the [[YearOutsideHourInside time distortion]] that causes time outside Tokyo to tick 75 times faster than inside, allowing both sides of the Firmament to move through time as one again. Shesha ''restabilized time and space''.]]



** On a related note, [[spoiler:both of [=YHVH's=] battles are in 3D as well, with him actually moving to perform his skills and attack you as you kick his arrogant ass. And dear Great Will, does it look cool.]]
* When Asahi has a HeroicBSOD with [[spoiler:her father's death]], and believing herself to be TheLoad, Gaston decides to take it too far and mock and insult her for it. Hallelujah has none of it and ''slugs him in the face.'' It's satisfying to see the [[{{Jerkass}} magnificent ass]] finally get what's coming to him, not to mention this triggers the beginning of his CharacterDevelopment.

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** On a related note, [[spoiler:both both of [=YHVH's=] battles are in 3D as well, with him actually moving to perform his skills and attack you as you kick his arrogant ass. And dear Great Will, does it look cool.]]
cool.
* When Asahi has a HeroicBSOD with [[spoiler:her her father's death]], death, and believing herself to be TheLoad, Gaston decides to take it too far and mock and insult her for it. Hallelujah has none of it and ''slugs him in the face.'' It's satisfying to see the [[{{Jerkass}} magnificent ass]] finally get what's coming to him, not to mention this triggers the beginning of his CharacterDevelopment.



* Asahi, despite being the WhiteMagicianGirl and something of TheLoad, manages to get two moments during the game. The first is during the rematch with Adramelech, when he is having his VillainousBreakdown towards the end and tries to burn everything Asahi completely heals everyone, negating the attack and causing Adramelech to be shaken over how you could possibly [[NoOneCouldSurviveThat survive]] his attack. The second occurs when [[spoiler: Shesha attempts to kill Nanashi, Asahi [[TakingTheBullet jumps in]] and is [[HeroicSacrifice killed]] by Shesha instead.]]
* Shortly after the ceasefire is called off, Skins and Fujiwara have the nerve to to tell [[spoiler:Merkabah and Lucifer, who are arguing over who the Hunters will fight for, in no uncertain terms, that they won't be siding with either one and that the Hunters are their enemy as well]] to their faces! It's a wonder how they stand upright with their [[BrassBalls steel balls]] weighing them down.
* Hallelujah [[spoiler:revealing his demonic powers against Azrael and deciding to reject his father. It's the moment that he decide that he'll follow whoever he feels is right and he openly states that if Nanashi goes the wrong way, he'll be the one to stop him.]]
* Gaston snapping his spear from [[spoiler:Merkabah and awakening, declaring he's fine with becoming a sinner to walk the path he wants.]]
* After the [[spoiler:Cosmic Egg]] appeared, the Divine Powers' demon minions are mounting a final assault on the underground districts of Tokyo. [[spoiler:Due to Shesha's actions, you're vastly outclassed and another bloodbath is looming... [[BigDamnHeroes until the Ashura-Kai, the Ring of Gaea and the remaining hunters and samurai (led by Hope!) show up]] and pledge themselves to the defense of Tokyo.]]
* The Massacre Ending may be a TearJerker GodzillaThreshold all the way through, but you cannot deny it is '''''completely metal.''''' [[spoiler:Nanashi lives up to his title of [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu God-killer]] ''[[UpToEleven with extreme prejudice]]'', killing ''every'' deity in the world, including YHVH, [[DeaderThanDead permanently]], and so permanently frees the world from any form of divine oppression. (Arguable, since you do this in order to become the unrivaled god yourself). It's also the hardest route in the game, so even ''seeing'' this makes ''you, the player'', awesome.]]
** The start of the final dungeon for this ending cements Nanashi's license in badass. [[spoiler:A significant portion of the Hunters, led by Skins and Fujiwara, wage a last stand to prevent you from reaching your goal.]] You are vastly outnumbered, as they come in the form of many waves of enemy hordes. Dagda's response? "Kill them all. Show no mercy." And you do.
* The Bonds Ending is even better than the Massacre Ending. [[spoiler:Nanashi teams up with the Mikado samurai Flynn, Jonathan and Walter (both restored thanks to Satan, who is comprised of both Merkabah and Lucifer) to take YHVH down. It is revealed that YHVH is a rogue avatar of the Axiom, (known as the Great Will in earlier titles and is SMT's SentientCosmicForce) the Axiom is ''[[GodIsGood benevolent]]'' and Nanashi and Flynn are messiahs created by the Axiom to defeat YHVH and stop him from oppressing humanity. In the aftermath the people of Tokyo and Mikado work together in harmony with the fairies to ensure a long lasting peace.]]
** During the fight, each of your battle partners also gets their chance in the spotlight, [[spoiler:rejecting each bit of YHVH's divinity to weaken him.]]
** Hell, the beginning of the final dungeon on Bonds counts as well. You're preparing to storm [[spoiler:YHVH's Universe]] with your TrueCompanions when Flynn and a shit-ton of Hunters all show up to lend you their support. Then you get to read the four words you've been waiting for the whole damn game: "Flynn joins the party." HELL YES.
** While most opinions of the final dungeon lean towards "[[DisappointingLastLevel just end]] [[EndingFatigue this game already!]]" it also [[spoiler:grants you a special ability with Flynn, Messiah Blast. Costing only 30 MP and requiring that Nanashi is smirking and Flynn isn't battling any other demons, the attack consists of Nanashi and Flynn performing a CombinationAttack to inflict massive Almighty damage to all enemies!]]

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* Asahi, despite being the WhiteMagicianGirl and something of TheLoad, manages to get two moments during the game. The first is during the rematch with Adramelech, when he is having his VillainousBreakdown towards the end and tries to burn everything Asahi completely heals everyone, negating the attack and causing Adramelech to be shaken over how you could possibly [[NoOneCouldSurviveThat survive]] his attack. The second occurs when [[spoiler: Shesha attempts to kill Nanashi, Asahi [[TakingTheBullet jumps in]] and is [[HeroicSacrifice killed]] by Shesha instead.]]
instead.
* Shortly after the ceasefire is called off, Skins and Fujiwara have the nerve to to tell [[spoiler:Merkabah Merkabah and Lucifer, who are arguing over who the Hunters will fight for, in no uncertain terms, that they won't be siding with either one and that the Hunters are their enemy as well]] well to their faces! It's a wonder how they stand upright with their [[BrassBalls steel balls]] weighing them down.
* Hallelujah [[spoiler:revealing revealing his demonic powers against Azrael and deciding to reject his father. It's the moment that he decide that he'll follow whoever he feels is right and he openly states that if Nanashi goes the wrong way, he'll be the one to stop him.]]
him.
* Gaston snapping his spear from [[spoiler:Merkabah Merkabah and awakening, declaring he's fine with becoming a sinner to walk the path he wants.]]
wants.
* After the [[spoiler:Cosmic Egg]] Cosmic Egg appeared, the Divine Powers' demon minions are mounting a final assault on the underground districts of Tokyo. [[spoiler:Due Due to Shesha's actions, you're vastly outclassed and another bloodbath is looming... [[BigDamnHeroes until the Ashura-Kai, the Ring of Gaea and the remaining hunters and samurai (led by Hope!) show up]] and pledge themselves to the defense of Tokyo.]]
Tokyo.
* The Massacre Ending may be a TearJerker GodzillaThreshold all the way through, but you cannot deny it is '''''completely metal.''''' [[spoiler:Nanashi Nanashi lives up to his title of [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu God-killer]] ''[[UpToEleven with extreme prejudice]]'', killing ''every'' deity in the world, including YHVH, [[DeaderThanDead permanently]], and so permanently frees the world from any form of divine oppression. (Arguable, since you do this in order to become the unrivaled god yourself). It's also the hardest route in the game, so even ''seeing'' this makes ''you, the player'', awesome.]]
awesome.
** The start of the final dungeon for this ending cements Nanashi's license in badass. [[spoiler:A A significant portion of the Hunters, led by Skins and Fujiwara, wage a last stand to prevent you from reaching your goal.]] goal. You are vastly outnumbered, as they come in the form of many waves of enemy hordes. Dagda's response? "Kill them all. Show no mercy." And you do.
* The Bonds Ending is even better than the Massacre Ending. [[spoiler:Nanashi Nanashi teams up with the Mikado samurai Flynn, Jonathan and Walter (both restored thanks to Satan, who is comprised of both Merkabah and Lucifer) to take YHVH down. It is revealed that YHVH is a rogue avatar of the Axiom, (known as the Great Will in earlier titles and is SMT's SentientCosmicForce) the Axiom is ''[[GodIsGood benevolent]]'' and Nanashi and Flynn are messiahs created by the Axiom to defeat YHVH and stop him from oppressing humanity. In the aftermath the people of Tokyo and Mikado work together in harmony with the fairies to ensure a long lasting peace.]]
peace.
** During the fight, each of your battle partners also gets their chance in the spotlight, [[spoiler:rejecting rejecting each bit of YHVH's divinity to weaken him.]]
him.
** Hell, the beginning of the final dungeon on Bonds counts as well. You're preparing to storm [[spoiler:YHVH's Universe]] YHVH's Universe with your TrueCompanions when Flynn and a shit-ton of Hunters all show up to lend you their support. Then you get to read the four words you've been waiting for the whole damn game: "Flynn joins the party." HELL YES.
** While most opinions of the final dungeon lean towards "[[DisappointingLastLevel just end]] [[EndingFatigue this game already!]]" it also [[spoiler:grants grants you a special ability with Flynn, Messiah Blast. Costing only 30 MP and requiring that Nanashi is smirking and Flynn isn't battling any other demons, the attack consists of Nanashi and Flynn performing a CombinationAttack to inflict massive Almighty damage to all enemies!]]enemies!



* [[ButtMonkey Navarre]] gets a moment of awesome on the Bonds route, [[spoiler: after defeating Vishnu-Flynn Krishna and Flynn are separated, Isabeau runs over to Flynn, but is then shocked when Krishna attempts to re-fuse with Flynn. Navarre then suddenly yells at Isabeau to give Masakado's Katana to Flynn, though surprised to see Navarre as a ghost she complies, at which point Flynn one shots Krishna.]] Yes, Krishna would not have been defeated if not for Navarre.
* Guess who the most powerful demon of the Divine race is? [[spoiler:No, it's not Seraph (He is of the Herald race instead).]] [[spoiler:It's none other than '''ANGEL.''']]

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* [[ButtMonkey Navarre]] gets a moment of awesome on the Bonds route, [[spoiler: after defeating Vishnu-Flynn Krishna and Flynn are separated, Isabeau runs over to Flynn, but is then shocked when Krishna attempts to re-fuse with Flynn. Navarre then suddenly yells at Isabeau to give Masakado's Katana to Flynn, though surprised to see Navarre as a ghost she complies, at which point Flynn one shots Krishna.]] Yes, Krishna would not have been defeated if not for Navarre.
* Guess who the most powerful demon of the Divine race is? [[spoiler:No, No, it's not Seraph (He is of the Herald race instead).]] [[spoiler:It's instead). It's none other than '''ANGEL.''']]'''



* The Diamond Realm DLC is pure fanservice. Nanashi is taken to the Diamond Realm, which marked the end of the beginning of ''I'' and was the BrutalBonusLevel of ''II''. In it, he runs into [[spoiler:the Hero from the first game, Aleph from the second, the Demi-fiend from the third, and an alternate Flynn from the Neutral ending of the fourth, and yes, you end up [[CrisisCrossover teaming up with all of them]].]]. At the end, [[spoiler:all five fight against a man four of them got to know over their journeys: Stephen, at Level 128. Yes, the genius cripple is not only higher leveled than YHVH, but he also requires five Messiahs to take down rather than YHVH's two]].

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* The Diamond Realm DLC is pure fanservice. Nanashi is taken to the Diamond Realm, which marked the end of the beginning of ''I'' and was the BrutalBonusLevel of ''II''. In it, he runs into [[spoiler:the the Hero from the first game, Aleph from the second, the Demi-fiend from the third, and an alternate Flynn from the Neutral ending of the fourth, and yes, you end up [[CrisisCrossover teaming up with all of them]].]]. them]]. At the end, [[spoiler:all all five fight against a man four of them got to know over their journeys: Stephen, at Level 128. Yes, the genius cripple is not only higher leveled than YHVH, but he also requires five Messiahs to take down rather than YHVH's two]].two.
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* Hallelujah [[spoiler:revealing his demonic powers against Samyaza and deciding to reject his father. It's the moment that he decide that he'll follow whoever he feels is right and he openly states that if Nanashi goes the wrong way, he'll be the one to stop him.]]

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* Hallelujah [[spoiler:revealing his demonic powers against Samyaza Azrael and deciding to reject his father. It's the moment that he decide that he'll follow whoever he feels is right and he openly states that if Nanashi goes the wrong way, he'll be the one to stop him.]]
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* Hallelujah [[spoiler:revealing his demonic powers against Azazel and deciding to reject his father. It's the moment that he decide that he'll follow whoever he feels is right and he openly states that if Nanashi goes the wrong way, he'll be the one to stop him.]]

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* Hallelujah [[spoiler:revealing his demonic powers against Azazel Samyaza and deciding to reject his father. It's the moment that he decide that he'll follow whoever he feels is right and he openly states that if Nanashi goes the wrong way, he'll be the one to stop him.]]
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* Every time you beat Twisted Tokyo, the dungeon resets and you can fight the Fiends again, except they've become stronger. And you can keep kicking their asses again and again, until their levels are all in the high 900's, with En no Ozuno at level '''999''' [[AbsurdlyHighLevelCap (to compare, the final boss is level 100)]]. And yes, people have beaten him at that level.

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* Every time you beat Twisted Tokyo, the dungeon resets and you can fight the Fiends again, except they've become stronger. And you can keep kicking their asses again and again, until their levels are all in the high 900's, with En no Ozuno at level '''999''' [[AbsurdlyHighLevelCap (to compare, the final boss is level 100)]].100 and can be beaten with a level 99 party)]]. And yes, people have beaten him at that level.

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