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The first pair of games, ''VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite'', turned out to be [[SugarWiki/AndTheFandomRejoiced hype-inducing already]]; however, the first direct sequels in the franchise, ''VideoGame/PokemonBlack2AndWhite2'', are already turning everything about their predecessors UpToEleven, and that includes this very trope. Let the rejoicing begin!
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* This is the first main-game sequel since ''VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver'', and it'll probably be more of a sequel than that game. Also, the thought of the beloved ''VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite'' continuing - and threads being tied - made the fandom really rejoice.
* This is the second pair of main series games[[note]]after [=FireRed=] and [=LeafGreen=][[/note]] to be localized the same year as its original counterpart. Dated summer for Japan and (northern hemisphere) fall for the United States and other countries.
* The confirmation that these games are indeed outright sequels, featuring an expanded Unova.
* New Pokémon joining in the Unova regional Pokédex, some including the Eeveelutions, Riolu/Lucario, Psyduck/Golduck and... ''[[InfinityMinusOneSword Tyranitar and Metagross]]''!
** Specifically, ''301 Pokémon''[[note]]counting Victini, Keldeo, Meloetta, and Genesect[[/note]] are in the regional Pokédex. You will ''not'' be at a loss for team options in this one.
*** Not only that, but Riolu is an early-game Mon for the first time ever - [[EnsembleDarkhorse Lucario]] is one of the most common Pokémon to see on in-game teams.
*** Not only that, there is a whole lot of extra Pokémon in post-game. Some were available in [[VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite Black and White]] only via DW (or in White Forest), some had to be migrated from previous Generation. There is 187 of these. Yeah, not all are available directly (you need to breed or evolve the Pokémon in its evolutionary stage, sometimes breed ''and'' evolve), some are harder to get (swarms, Hidden Grotto) and few are also version-exclusives, but you have to admit that's a lot for a pair of games. Aside from events, the New Unova has 297 Pokémon in Dex, though Kami trio is uncatchable, lowering the number to 294. Add the extra mons (without the Unova events) and you get '''481''' Pokémon, just 14 short of ''first four Generations together''.
*** To be precise, you can catch 94 (38 in regional) Kanto Pokémon, 69 (32 in regional) Johto Pokémon, 99 Hoenn (43 in regional) Pokémon, 70 (32 in regional) Sinnoh Pokémon and 149 Unova Pokémon (with four event it gives 153 for Unova). Not with one game, though. This takes at least three games[[note]]or two games if you get the third starter line through the GTS[[/note]].
** The new Habitat feature, a checklist showing which Pokémon reside in which area, is like a godsend for players who focus more on collecting them.
* The addition of a Poison-type specialist may seem minor, but there hadn't been one since Generation II.
** Nor outside of Kanto, for that matter.
* The female protagonist design has once again become popular within the franchise.
* Regular Trainers now have animated sprites. Not only that, but from what few animations we've seen, they're much more animated than the three frames that previous generations had and now have as many frames as animated Pokémon sprites do (not minding the fact that the Trainer sprites stop, of course).
* The new FirstTown, Aspertia City is the first hometown in the main series to be a city, to be much larger than other hometowns, to contain a Pokémon Center, to have a Trainer's School, to feature a concreted path, and last but not least, to contain a gym.[[note]]Though you can't challenge the gym before actually ''leaving'' the first town. You have to go to Floccesy first.[[/note]]
* New formes for the Kami trio, Kyurem, and Keldeo![[note]]Although in Keldeo's case, it is purely aesthetic.[[/note]]
** Black and White Kyurem's base stat total is '''700''', second only to [[PhysicalGod Arceus]]! The ice dragon has finally gotten the boost it needed!
* Cheren and Bianca are both confirmed to be back; Cheren is a Normal-type Gym Leader while Bianca will give you your starter Pokémon. They both play major roles in the plot as well.
** N is also confirmed to be appearing in the game with the same scan that shows Cheren, Bianca, and Alder.
** [[spoiler:Ghetsis seems to be back as the BigBad - being such a LoveToHate villain, fans are ecstatic!]]
* Early May 15, some pics from a yet-to-be-released video popped up, showing an animated trailer for the games. Some hours later, it finally showed up on [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBdp_dLEdqU Youtube]]. Saying the fandom rejoiced might as well be an understatement.
** And now there's an extended version of said video, which now features '''''Rosa'''''. SchrodingersPlayerCharacter no more!
* Move tutors are now confirmed. They now teach moves with shards like in Platinum and teach some fan favorite moves that got lost in the generation transition like the elemental punches, Dragon Pulse, Dark Pulse, Roost, Giga Drain, Drain Punch and many more.
** 4 different cities teach a total of 60 moves. Some of these are old moves who never were learnable outside of breeding and level-up, such as Bind or Hyper Voice.
* Evolutionary stones are now buyable at the Battle Subway with the cost of 3 points each, far better than trying to find the right person for Black City/White Forest and looking for them in dust clouds.
** By the way of Battle Subway, many items are now much cheaper. The most expensive items are now just 24BP, compared to the original games where prices reached even twice as much.
* [[spoiler:Zorua and Zoroark]] are no longer event-exclusive, as the former is given away for free. [[spoiler: And it used to belong to N too]].
** Neither is the Snarl TM. Time Capsule is now useless (as it was supposed to be transfered from Generation IV to fifth via Relocator and then brought to a place, to open it and receive the then-event exclusive TM.
* [[spoiler: You fight Ghetsis again, as well as the [[TerribleTrio Shadow]] [[CoDragons Triad]] - previously TheUnfought!]] On top of that, [[spoiler:Colress also looks to be a battler, with [[TheBrute Zinzolin]] of the Seven Sages serving as a top enforcer - in other words, this time we have a ''proper'' FiveManBand, and all are fightable. Hallelujah!]]
** [[spoiler: While not much as joyful, Rood of the Seven Sages is also battled, though as you have only 4 badges (unless you can battle Clay without going there, as you battle him in Driftveil City) by that time (the ''first'' time you meet Zinzolin, you already have 6 badges), he is much weaker.]]
* The World Tournament Mode, where you fight the Gym Leaders and Champions from the previous generations, as a massive ContinuityCavalcade. [[spoiler:And yes, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj1a-7ZsuFs Red]] counts as a champion.]] Our bodies weren't ready.
* There's an item that increases the chances of getting shiny Pokemon! [[spoiler:Which you get by completing the Pokedex. Finally, something actually USEFUL after all these years instead of a damn certificate!]]
** Also there are some Pokemon that are guaranteed shiny! The last time this happened was way back in ''Gold/Silver'', and that was only one Pokemon (Gyarados) and only because the story of the game made it that way!
* Music wise, every gym in this game now has its own remix of the gym theme instead of sharing a single theme.
** Not just that, but the Gym Leader and Champion themes from the previous games return, to go along with the Gym Leaders and Champions from previous games returning in the World Tournament.
* ''Every'' non-mascot, non-event legendary from Gens III and IV being catchable in the postgame (though Lati@s are version-exclusive, all other legend aren't[[note]]Regice and Registeel are not, though they DO look like version-exclusives[[/note]]). Regigigas even finally gets the Regi trio's battle theme!
* Located in out of the way places are Hidden Grottoes which may hold a special Pokémon with a hidden ability. One of the available Pokémon is ''Ditto''. Which have ''Imposter'' as its hidden ability! [[note]]A Pokémon with Imposter will automatically transform into its opponent when it enters the battle, giving Ditto [[TookALevelInBadass several levels in badass]].[[/note]]
* Voice acting in some of the music tracks excited ''a lot'' of fans.
* [[RageQuit Regarding people disconnecting before losing in the random matches]], now if someone does that he or she won't be able to play random matches for an hour.
* All old participants received new overworld sprites, and all new animations. Even if they were somehow re-used from older games, they're still different due to being smoother.
* And in case you didn't think the Fandom were Rejoicing enough, the true amazing nature of these games can be summed up by these words: "Repel's effect wore off... Would you like to use another?"
** HALLELUJAH.
* When the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkTsd0iU97s animated trailer was dubbed in English]].
* YOU CAN SKIP THE TUTORIALS!!! THANK YOU, GAME FREAK, ''THANK YOU''!!
* Wait, Beedrill can learn Drill Run via Move Tutor? AWESOME!

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[[caption-width-right:350: [[TheBusCameBack All the Gym Leaders?]][[note]][[MyFriendsAndZoidberg Except for Koga.]][[/note]] [[ContinuityCavalcade In the same game?!]] Best. {{Bonus Boss}}es. Ever.]]

The first pair of games, ''VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite'', turned out to be [[SugarWiki/AndTheFandomRejoiced hype-inducing already]]; however, the first direct sequels in the franchise, ''VideoGame/PokemonBlack2AndWhite2'', are already turning everything about their predecessors UpToEleven, and that includes this very trope. Let the rejoicing begin!
----
* This is the first main-game sequel since ''VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver'', and it'll probably be more of a sequel than that game. Also, the thought of the beloved ''VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite'' continuing - and threads being tied - made the fandom really rejoice.
* This is the second pair of main series games[[note]]after [=FireRed=] and [=LeafGreen=][[/note]] to be localized the same year as its original counterpart. Dated summer for Japan and (northern hemisphere) fall for the United States and other countries.
* The confirmation that these games are indeed outright sequels, featuring an expanded Unova.
* New Pokémon joining in the Unova regional Pokédex, some including the Eeveelutions, Riolu/Lucario, Psyduck/Golduck and... ''[[InfinityMinusOneSword Tyranitar and Metagross]]''!
** Specifically, ''301 Pokémon''[[note]]counting Victini, Keldeo, Meloetta, and Genesect[[/note]] are in the regional Pokédex. You will ''not'' be at a loss for team options in this one.
*** Not only that, but Riolu is an early-game Mon for the first time ever - [[EnsembleDarkhorse Lucario]] is one of the most common Pokémon to see on in-game teams.
*** Not only that, there is a whole lot of extra Pokémon in post-game. Some were available in [[VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite Black and White]] only via DW (or in White Forest), some had to be migrated from previous Generation. There is 187 of these. Yeah, not all are available directly (you need to breed or evolve the Pokémon in its evolutionary stage, sometimes breed ''and'' evolve), some are harder to get (swarms, Hidden Grotto) and few are also version-exclusives, but you have to admit that's a lot for a pair of games. Aside from events, the New Unova has 297 Pokémon in Dex, though Kami trio is uncatchable, lowering the number to 294. Add the extra mons (without the Unova events) and you get '''481''' Pokémon, just 14 short of ''first four Generations together''.
*** To be precise, you can catch 94 (38 in regional) Kanto Pokémon, 69 (32 in regional) Johto Pokémon, 99 Hoenn (43 in regional) Pokémon, 70 (32 in regional) Sinnoh Pokémon and 149 Unova Pokémon (with four event it gives 153 for Unova). Not with one game, though. This takes at least three games[[note]]or two games if you get the third starter line through the GTS[[/note]].
** The new Habitat feature, a checklist showing which Pokémon reside in which area, is like a godsend for players who focus more on collecting them.
* The addition of a Poison-type specialist may seem minor, but there hadn't been one since Generation II.
** Nor outside of Kanto, for that matter.
* The female protagonist design has once again become popular within the franchise.
* Regular Trainers now have animated sprites. Not only that, but from what few animations we've seen, they're much more animated than the three frames that previous generations had and now have as many frames as animated Pokémon sprites do (not minding the fact that the Trainer sprites stop, of course).
* The new FirstTown, Aspertia City is the first hometown in the main series to be a city, to be much larger than other hometowns, to contain a Pokémon Center, to have a Trainer's School, to feature a concreted path, and last but not least, to contain a gym.[[note]]Though you can't challenge the gym before actually ''leaving'' the first town. You have to go to Floccesy first.[[/note]]
* New formes for the Kami trio, Kyurem, and Keldeo![[note]]Although in Keldeo's case, it is purely aesthetic.[[/note]]
** Black and White Kyurem's base stat total is '''700''', second only to [[PhysicalGod Arceus]]! The ice dragon has finally gotten the boost it needed!
* Cheren and Bianca are both confirmed to be back; Cheren is a Normal-type Gym Leader while Bianca will give you your starter Pokémon. They both play major roles in the plot as well.
** N is also confirmed to be appearing in the game with the same scan that shows Cheren, Bianca, and Alder.
** [[spoiler:Ghetsis seems to be back as the BigBad - being such a LoveToHate villain, fans are ecstatic!]]
* Early May 15, some pics from a yet-to-be-released video popped up, showing an animated trailer for the games. Some hours later, it finally showed up on [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBdp_dLEdqU Youtube]]. Saying the fandom rejoiced might as well be an understatement.
** And now there's an extended version of said video, which now features '''''Rosa'''''. SchrodingersPlayerCharacter no more!
* Move tutors are now confirmed. They now teach moves with shards like in Platinum and teach some fan favorite moves that got lost in the generation transition like the elemental punches, Dragon Pulse, Dark Pulse, Roost, Giga Drain, Drain Punch and many more.
** 4 different cities teach a total of 60 moves. Some of these are old moves who never were learnable outside of breeding and level-up, such as Bind or Hyper Voice.
* Evolutionary stones are now buyable at the Battle Subway with the cost of 3 points each, far better than trying to find the right person for Black City/White Forest and looking for them in dust clouds.
** By the way of Battle Subway, many items are now much cheaper. The most expensive items are now just 24BP, compared to the original games where prices reached even twice as much.
* [[spoiler:Zorua and Zoroark]] are no longer event-exclusive, as the former is given away for free. [[spoiler: And it used to belong to N too]].
** Neither is the Snarl TM. Time Capsule is now useless (as it was supposed to be transfered from Generation IV to fifth via Relocator and then brought to a place, to open it and receive the then-event exclusive TM.
* [[spoiler: You fight Ghetsis again, as well as the [[TerribleTrio Shadow]] [[CoDragons Triad]] - previously TheUnfought!]] On top of that, [[spoiler:Colress also looks to be a battler, with [[TheBrute Zinzolin]] of the Seven Sages serving as a top enforcer - in other words, this time we have a ''proper'' FiveManBand, and all are fightable. Hallelujah!]]
** [[spoiler: While not much as joyful, Rood of the Seven Sages is also battled, though as you have only 4 badges (unless you can battle Clay without going there, as you battle him in Driftveil City) by that time (the ''first'' time you meet Zinzolin, you already have 6 badges), he is much weaker.]]
* The World Tournament Mode, where you fight the Gym Leaders and Champions from the previous generations, as a massive ContinuityCavalcade. [[spoiler:And yes, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj1a-7ZsuFs Red]] counts as a champion.]] Our bodies weren't ready.
* There's an item that increases the chances of getting shiny Pokemon! [[spoiler:Which you get by completing the Pokedex. Finally, something actually USEFUL after all these years instead of a damn certificate!]]
** Also there are some Pokemon that are guaranteed shiny! The last time this happened was way back in ''Gold/Silver'', and that was only one Pokemon (Gyarados) and only because the story of the game made it that way!
* Music wise, every gym in this game now has its own remix of the gym theme instead of sharing a single theme.
** Not just that, but the Gym Leader and Champion themes from the previous games return, to go along with the Gym Leaders and Champions from previous games returning in the World Tournament.
* ''Every'' non-mascot, non-event legendary from Gens III and IV being catchable in the postgame (though Lati@s are version-exclusive, all other legend aren't[[note]]Regice and Registeel are not, though they DO look like version-exclusives[[/note]]). Regigigas even finally gets the Regi trio's battle theme!
* Located in out of the way places are Hidden Grottoes which may hold a special Pokémon with a hidden ability. One of the available Pokémon is ''Ditto''. Which have ''Imposter'' as its hidden ability! [[note]]A Pokémon with Imposter will automatically transform into its opponent when it enters the battle, giving Ditto [[TookALevelInBadass several levels in badass]].[[/note]]
* Voice acting in some of the music tracks excited ''a lot'' of fans.
* [[RageQuit Regarding people disconnecting before losing in the random matches]], now if someone does that he or she won't be able to play random matches for an hour.
* All old participants received new overworld sprites, and all new animations. Even if they were somehow re-used from older games, they're still different due to being smoother.
* And in case you didn't think the Fandom were Rejoicing enough, the true amazing nature of these games can be summed up by these words: "Repel's effect wore off... Would you like to use another?"
** HALLELUJAH.
* When the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkTsd0iU97s animated trailer was dubbed in English]].
* YOU CAN SKIP THE TUTORIALS!!! THANK YOU, GAME FREAK, ''THANK YOU''!!
* Wait, Beedrill can learn Drill Run via Move Tutor? AWESOME!
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* [[spoiler: You fight Ghetsis again, as well as the [[TerribleTrio Shadow]] [[CoDragons Triad]] - previously TheUnfought!]] On top of that, [[spoiler:Colress also looks to be a battler, with [[TheBrute Zinzolin]] of the Seven Sages serving as a top enforcer.]]

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* [[spoiler: You fight Ghetsis again, as well as the [[TerribleTrio Shadow]] [[CoDragons Triad]] - previously TheUnfought!]] On top of that, [[spoiler:Colress also looks to be a battler, with [[TheBrute Zinzolin]] of the Seven Sages serving as a top enforcer.]]enforcer - in other words, this time we have a ''proper'' FiveManBand, and all are fightable. Hallelujah!]]
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* [[spoiler: You fight Ghetsis again, as well as the [[TerribleTrio Shadow]] [[CoDragons Triad]] - previously TheUnfought!]] On top of that, [[spoiler:Colress also looks to be a battler, with [[TheBrute Zinzolin]] of the Seven Sages serving as a top enforcer - in other words, this time we have a ''proper'' FiveBadBand, and all are fightable. Hallelujah!]]

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* [[spoiler: You fight Ghetsis again, as well as the [[TerribleTrio Shadow]] [[CoDragons Triad]] - previously TheUnfought!]] On top of that, [[spoiler:Colress also looks to be a battler, with [[TheBrute Zinzolin]] of the Seven Sages serving as a top enforcer - in other words, this time we have a ''proper'' FiveBadBand, and all are fightable. Hallelujah!]]enforcer.]]
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* The female protagonist design has once again become popular within the franchise. The ''male'' protagonist's design, on the other hand, seems to be a LoveItOrHateIt deal.

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** Also there are some Pokemon that are guaranteed shiny!

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** Also there are some Pokemon that are guaranteed shiny!shiny! The last time this happened was way back in ''Gold/Silver'', and that was only one Pokemon (Gyarados) and only because the story of the game made it that way!
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* YOU CAN SKIP THE TUTORIALS!!! THANK YOU, GAME FREAK, ''THANK YOU''!!

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* YOU CAN SKIP THE TUTORIALS!!! THANK YOU, GAME FREAK, ''THANK YOU''!!YOU''!!
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*** Not only that, but Riolu is an early-game Mon for the first time ever - [[EnsembleDarkhorse Lucario]] is one of the most common Pokémon to see on in-game teams.



* [[spoiler:Zorua and Zoroark]] are no longer event-exclusive, as the former is given away for free.

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* [[spoiler:Zorua and Zoroark]] are no longer event-exclusive, as the former is given away for free. [[spoiler: And it used to belong to N too]].
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* When the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkTsd0iU97s animated trailer was dubbed in English]].

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* When the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkTsd0iU97s animated trailer was dubbed in English]].English]].
* YOU CAN SKIP THE TUTORIALS!!! THANK YOU, GAME FREAK, ''THANK YOU''!!
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* This is the second pair of main series games[[hottip:*:after [=FireRed=] and [=LeafGreen=]]] to be localized the same year as its original counterpart. Dated summer for Japan and (northern hemisphere) fall for the United States and other countries.

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* This is the second pair of main series games[[hottip:*:after games[[note]]after [=FireRed=] and [=LeafGreen=]]] [=LeafGreen=][[/note]] to be localized the same year as its original counterpart. Dated summer for Japan and (northern hemisphere) fall for the United States and other countries.



** Specifically, ''301 Pokémon''[[hottip:*:counting Victini, Keldeo, Meloetta, and Genesect]] are in the regional Pokédex. You will ''not'' be at a loss for team options in this one.

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** Specifically, ''301 Pokémon''[[hottip:*:counting Pokémon''[[note]]counting Victini, Keldeo, Meloetta, and Genesect]] Genesect[[/note]] are in the regional Pokédex. You will ''not'' be at a loss for team options in this one.



**** To be precise, you can catch 94 (38 in regional) Kanto Pokémon, 69 (32 in regional) Johto Pokémon, 99 Hoenn (43 in regional) Pokémon, 70 (32 in regional) Sinnoh Pokémon and 149 Unova Pokémon (with four event it gives 153 for Unova). Not with one game, though. This takes at least three games[[hottip:*:or two games if you get the third starter line through the GTS]].

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**** To be precise, you can catch 94 (38 in regional) Kanto Pokémon, 69 (32 in regional) Johto Pokémon, 99 Hoenn (43 in regional) Pokémon, 70 (32 in regional) Sinnoh Pokémon and 149 Unova Pokémon (with four event it gives 153 for Unova). Not with one game, though. This takes at least three games[[hottip:*:or games[[note]]or two games if you get the third starter line through the GTS]].GTS[[/note]].



* New formes for the Kami trio, Kyurem, and Keldeo![[hottip:*: Although in Keldeo's case, it is purely aesthetic.]]

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* New formes for the Kami trio, Kyurem, and Keldeo![[hottip:*: Although Keldeo![[note]]Although in Keldeo's case, it is purely aesthetic.]][[/note]]



* ''Every'' non-mascot, non-event legendary from Gens III and IV being catchable in the postgame (though Lati@s are version-exclusive, all other legend aren't[[hottip:*:Regice and Registeel are not, though they DO look like version-exclusives]]). Regigigas even finally gets the Regi trio's battle theme!

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* ''Every'' non-mascot, non-event legendary from Gens III and IV being catchable in the postgame (though Lati@s are version-exclusive, all other legend aren't[[hottip:*:Regice aren't[[note]]Regice and Registeel are not, though they DO look like version-exclusives]]).version-exclusives[[/note]]). Regigigas even finally gets the Regi trio's battle theme!

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