Line #13 YMMV/Newsies


1	!!The film
2	* AudienceAlienatingPremise: A pretty era-specific case: the reason ''Newsies'' bombed pretty badly on release is because just saying it out loud -- a period drama about a 1899 newsboys' strike that's ''also'' a Disney musical -- the premise garnered more confusion and ridicule than excitement. During 1992, there hadn't been a real precedent for live-action movie musical blockbusters for a while (at least those set outside of a fantastical context, like ''Franchise/TheMuppets''), and when combined with a cast lacking in big name performers ([[RetroactiveRecognition at least for the time]]), there were no major draws. [[VindicatedByHistory Time has been a lot kinder to the movie]] due to a wider proliferation of quirkier musicals with similarly niche subject matters, and ''Newsies'' itself would receive a successful ScreenToStageAdaptation in 2011.
3	* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: "[[https://youtu.be/60Zsse3Osps Seize the Day]]" is a simultaneously encouraging, yet restless ProtestSong that signifies the oncoming HeroicSecondWind against Pulitzer.
4	%% ** "Once and for All".
5	%% ** "King of New York".
6	%% ** "Carrying the Banner".
7	%% ** "Watch What Happens" from the ScreenToStageAdaptation.
8	%% Administrivia/ZeroContextExample * BaseBreakingCharacter: Sarah and Katherine are both love interests for Jack when much of the fandom prefers him with David or Crutchie.
9	* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: During the nuns scene in "Carrying the Banner", a woman walks through the crowd of newsies, looking for her missing son. She is never seen again and, according to the audio commentary of the film, serves no purpose other than to show how common it was for children to run away from home during those days.
10	* CultClassic: ''Newsies'' [[BoxOfficeBomb bombed at the box office]], but gained this status through home video sales and word-of-mouth.
11	* EnsembleDarkhorse: Oy. Okay, rule out every main character. Then every female character. Then everyone over the age of, say twenty-one [[spoiler:(except [[UsefulNotes/TheodoreRoosevelt Teddy Roosevelt]])]] and under the age of fourteen. That character will have enough {{fangirl}}s to qualify as this.
12	** Spot Conlon, especially.
13	** The girls have their fair share of fans. And the stage musical added two female newsies (Smalls in the Broadway production and Sniper in the tour), who've become more popular than some of the boys with similarly sized roles.
14	** Kid Blink is quite popular among the fanbase. Just look at that smile.
15	* EstrogenBrigade: Look at the above section. Now look at the rest of this page. Now look at [[CastFullOfPrettyBoys the cast]]. Now tell us what you think the fanbase is like.
16	* FanPreferredCouple: Although Jack and Sarah is the canon couple for the movie, a majority of fans ship Jack and David due to the two developing a close bond and Sarah being a SatelliteLoveInterest.
17	* HoYay:
18	** At the end of the movie, one protagonist gets together with the other protagonist's [[SatelliteLoveInterest barely-there sister]].
19	%%** It could have something to do with the blatant sexual tension between the two leads...
20	** After the barely-there girl and David get saved from attackers, Jack gives the girl a perfunctory "You're okay, bro" slap on the back, while he almost caresses David while finding out if he's okay.
21	** A case can also be made for David and Denton: Denton first goes to David, saying, "You look like the man in charge," when Jack Kelly is the one who just led the big song and dance number. David is the one Denton hands his card to. David seems irrationally angry when Denton is reassigned. And later, how do they know where Denton lives...?
22	* NarmCharm: The movie tried to work Disney magic on atypical subject matter. For some, this results in the subject and tone of the film clashing in a very stupid way. For others, the fact that it's so over-the-top just makes it all the more awesome. Also, it has [[spoiler:Theodore Roosevelt]].
23	* OneSceneWonder:
24	** The BigDamnHeroes moment courtesy of [[spoiler:Theodore Roosevelt]], especially in the play, since nearly every line he speaks gets laughs and cheers from the audience.
25	** Also the woman mentioned above, who gets a verse during "Carrying the Banner" looking for her son and never appears again in the film.
26	* RetroactiveRecognition: Is that a young Creator/ChristianBale selling papers?
27	* TheScrappy: Sarah Jacobs is a [[RomanticPlotTumor poorly executed]] [[DieForOurShip female love interest]] in a film and accompanying [[YaoiFangirl fandom]] that's boiling over with HomoeroticSubtext.
28	* ShipsThatPassInTheNight: Hoo, boy. Aside from all the shipping for the background characters (who have perhaps ten lines between them all, and there's ''thirteen'' of them), there's Spot and Racetrack, who are one of the fandom's three [=OTPs=], and Blink and Mush.
29	* ValuesDissonance: The open affection among the young men can seem jarring to a 21st century audience, with the modern paranoia and modern distrust of even casual physical contact. This is [[WordOfGod intentionally exploited]] in the film.
30	* VindicatedByHistory: Once a punching bag for critics, as time went on it became one of the biggest {{cult classic}}s of TheNineties that even warranted a Tony-winning ScreenToStageAdaptation.
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32	!!The musical
33	* BaseBreakingCharacter: Katherine. Fans like her for being a more proactive female character than Sara and her chemistry with Jack. Detractors dislike her for replacing Denton and feel her romance arc takes up time that could've been used to focus on David and Crutchie's CharacterDevelopment.
34	* BrokenBase: The stage adaptation. Plenty of fans of the original movie can and will admit that they consider the stage adaptation to be good, and even better than the source material. Some fans like both equally. But there's a group of fans of the original movie who will get pretty vicious over the stage musical and the amount of love it gets, plenty of them complaining about how nobody likes the movie anymore. There's also an equally vicious section of the musical fans who consider the movie vastly inferior and deride its fans.
35	* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments:
36	** The Broadway version of ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMi8pjRg6YY Seize the Day]]'' adds an incredibly touching bridge, defying the usual negative attitudes towards HoldingOutForAHero.
37	--->"Behold the brave battalion, that stands side by side"\
38	"Too few in number, and too proud to hide"\
39	"And say to the others, who did not follow through..."\
40	'''[[YouAreNotAlone "...You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you."]]'''
41	** Similarly, the stage version of "Santa Fe", which is now a duet with Jack and Crutchie, where Jack declares that in a town like Santa Fe, it wouldn't ''matter'' that Crutchie was crippled, he could just ride a horse wherever he needed to go. In fact, the fresh air would probably heal him!
42	** "I'm not used to having whether I stay or whether I go matter. But, um… does it? Matter?"
43	* HoYay: In the musical, Jack and Crutchie open the show sleeping together on the roof of the lodging house, sing about how they're going to run away together, and Jack's reaction to Crutchie being taken to the Refuge is [[HeroicBSOD pretty intense.]]
44	* MemeticMutation: Go and look it up, the poor GUY'S head is spinning! [[labelnote:Explanation]]A [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmJHBclGK88 video]] of the Newsies cast preparing for a show backstage led to this meme after Ben Fankhauser (Davey) used this line as a vocal warm-up, which hilariously annoyed Andrew Keenan-Bolger (Crutchie). It became such a large meme that in the filmed production, when Fankhauser sings the line, Kara Lindsay (Katherine) can be seen in the background [[FunnyBackgroundEvent covering her smile.]] [[/labelnote]]
45	* RetroactiveRecognition: Creator/MikeFaist, who originated Connor Murphy in ''Theatre/DearEvanHansen'', plays Morris Delancey.
46	* RomanticPlotTumor: The musical's romantic subplot is initially built on SlapSlapKiss, which can turn off watchers. Jack then feels Katherine betrayed him simply by being in the room with Pulitzer, which is resolved with one kiss, and the FinalLoveDuet ''Something to Believe In'' doesn't explain ''why'' Jack and Katherine love one another, only that they suddenly met and fell in love despite the odds.
47	* TearJerker:
48	** The song ''Santa Fe'', a song about a heavily romanticized version of what is essentially ''anywhere else'' except the New York City that Jack feels trapped in. The DarkReprise after [[spoiler: Crutchie is beaten and taken to the refuge during Jack's strike]] even moreso. Jack's desire to run away from everything is heavily lampshaded especially in the second act.
49	** The Act II counterpoint in the tour and filmed versions, "Letter from the Refuge," is even sadder, as Crutchie writes a [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin letter to Jack from the Refuge.]]

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