History YMMV / Newsies

* AcceptableTargets: When trying to figure out which headlines would help them sell more papers, one newsie suggests a crooked politician. He gets shouted down because "that ain't news no more!"

%% Administrivia/ZeroContextExample * SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The reprise of "The World Will Know".
%% ** "Seize the Day".

* RetroactiveRecognition: The musical's Morris Delancey may look familiar to modern viewers. It's [[Theatre/DearEvanHansen Connor Murphy!]]

* AudienceAlienatingPremise: A pretty era-specific case: the reason ''Newsies'' bombed pretty badly on release is because just saying it out loud -- a period drama about a 1899 newsboys' strike that's ''also'' a Disney musical -- garnered more confusion and ridicule than excitement. During 1992, there hadn't been a real precedent for live-action movie musical blockbusters for a while (at least those set outside of a fantastical context, like ''Franchise/TheMuppets''), and when combined with a cast lacking in big name performers ([[RetroactiveRecognition at least for the time]]), there were no major draws. [[VindicatedByHistory Time has been a lot kinder to the movie]] due to a wider proliferation of quirkier musicals with similarly niche subject matters, and ''Newsies'' itself would receive a successful ScreenToStageAdaptation in 2011.

* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Exactly ''why'' did Disney think families would be interested in a musical period piece that's played mostly for drama?

* RetroactiveRecognition: Is that a young Creator/ChristianBale selling papes?
** The musical's Morris Delancey may look familiar to modern viewers. It's [[Theatre/DearEvanHansen Connor Murphy!]]

* RomanticPlotTumor: Setting Sarah aside (see below), the musical's romantic subplot could use work. For one thing, while we have some SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic in the musical, with "Seize the Day" and "The World Will Know", the FinalLoveDuet ''Something to Believe In'' has got to be the worst-written and most generic song of the soundtrack, with such lyrical gems as "We [were] never meant to meet/And then we meet, [[ContrivedCoincidence who knows why]]?" and "I thought I knew what love was/Now I'm learning what is true:/That love will do what it does.".

%% Administrivia/ZeroContextExample * BaseBreakingCharacter: Sarah and Katherine. Better off to just not talk about them. Sarah is still considered TheScrappy by most of the fandom.
* BrokenBase: The stage adaptation. Plenty of fans of the original movie can and will admit that they consider the stage adaptation to be good, and even better than the source material. Some fans like both equally. But there's a group of fans of the original movie who will get pretty vicious over the stage musical and the amount of love it gets, plenty of them complaining about how nobody likes the movie anymore. There's also an equally vicious section of the musical fans who consider the movie vastly inferior and deride its fans.

* CultClassic: ''Newsies'' [[BoxOfficeBomb bombed at the box office]], but gained this status through home video sales.

** The age thing is arguable, given that almost half the dancers that have fangirls were over twenty-one. And more than a couple of them were under fourteen. (Dominic Lucero, Brian Friedman, and D.J. Dell'Osa are all particularly well known examples.)
** To be fair, the girls have their fair share of fans. And the stage musical added two female newsies (Smalls in the Broadway production and Sniper in the tour), who've become more popular than some of the boys with similarly sized roles.

* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments:
** The Broadway version of ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMi8pjRg6YY Seize the Day]]'' adds an incredibly touching bridge, defying the usual negative attitudes towards HoldingOutForAHero.
--->"Behold the brave battalion, that stands side by side"\\
"Too few in number, and too proud to hide"\\
"And say to the others, who did not follow through..."\\
'''[[YouAreNotAlone "...You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you."]]'''
** Similarly, the stage version of "Santa Fe", which is now a duet with Jack and Crutchie, where Jack declares that in a town like Santa Fe, it wouldn't ''matter'' that Crutchie was crippled, he could just ride a horse wherever he needed to go. In fact, the fresh air would probably heal him!
** "I'm not used to having whether I stay or whether I go matter. But, um… does it? Matter?"

** In the stage musical, Jack and Crutchie open the show sleeping together on the roof of the lodging house, sing about how they're going to run away together, and Jack's reaction to Crutchie being taken to the Refuge is [[HeroicBSOD pretty intense.]]
* {{Memetic Mutation}}: Go and look it up, the poor GUY'S head is spinning! [[labelnote:Explanation]]A [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmJHBclGK88 video]] of the Newsies cast preparing for a show backstage led to this meme after Ben Fankhauser (Davey) used this line as a vocal warm-up, which hilariously annoyed Andrew Keenan-Bolger (Crutchie). It became such a large meme that in the filmed production, when Fankhauser sings the line, Kara Lindsay (Katherine) can be seen in the background [[FunnyBackgroundEvent covering her smile.]] [[/labelnote]]

* OneSceneWonder: The BigDamnHeroes moment courtesy of [[spoiler:Theodore Roosevelt]]. Arguably one of the better scenes, especially in the play, since nearly every line he speaks gets laughs and cheers from the audience.

* TheScrappy: Sarah Jacobs. [[http://queenitsy.com/newsies/fanfic101/basics/glossary.html People have even pointed out that she's the most hated character in the fandom.]] Astute fans may note that it probably has something to do with the fact that she's a [[RomanticPlotTumor poorly executed]] [[DieForOurShip female love interest]] in a film and accompanying [[YaoiFangirl fandom]] that's boiling over with HomoeroticSubtext.

* TearJerker: In particular, the song ''Santa Fe'', a song about a heavily romanticized version of what is essentially ''anywhere else'' except the New York City that Jack feels trapped in. The DarkReprise after [[spoiler: Crutchie is beaten and taken to the refuge during Jack's strike]] even moreso. Jack's desire to run away from everything is heavily lampshaded especially in the second act.
** The Act II counterpoint in the tour and filmed versions, "Letter from the Refuge," is even sadder, as Crutchie writes a [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin letter to Jack from the Refuge.]]

* {{MST3K Mantra}}: Among (many) other considerations, why do these kids have jobs as unskilled laborers? Look how well they can dance!

** This troper can clearly remember thinking Mush needed to spend FAR more time with his shirt off.
** Can we also take a moment to mention David in that last scene? When he's down to just his undershirt... ''mmm''......

* HoYay:
** At the end of the movie, one protagonist gets together with the other protagonist's [[SatelliteLoveInterest barely-there sister]].
%%** It could have something to do with the blatant sexual tension between the two leads...
** After the barely-there girl and David get saved from attackers, Jack gives the girl a perfunctory "You're okay, bro" slap on the back, while he almost caresses David while finding out if he's okay.
** A case can also be made for David and Denton: Denton first goes to David, saying, "You look like the man in charge," when Jack Kelly is the one who just led the big song and dance number. David is the one Denton hands his card to. David seems irrationally angry when Denton is reassigned. And later, how do they know where Denton lives...?
** In the stage musical, Jack and Crutchie open the show sleeping together on the roof of the lodging house, sing about how they're going to run away together, and Jack's reaction to Crutchie being taken to the Refuge is [[HeroicBSOD pretty intense.]]

* HoYay: Sometimes seems to be the raison d'etre of the film to a modern audience; a lot of this is the result of ValuesDissonance, but a lot of it is also [[WordOfGod clearly intentional]].
** At the end of the movie, one protagonist gets together with the other protagonist's [[SatelliteLoveInterest barely-there sister]].
** It could have something to do with the blatant sexual tension between the two leads...
** Case in point: after the barely-there girl and David get saved from attackers, watch carefully. Jack gives the girl a perfunctory "You're okay, bro" slap on the back, while he almost caresses David while finding out if he's okay. The HoYay is strong with this one...
** A case can also be made for David and Denton: Denton first goes to David, saying, "You look like the man in charge," when Jack Kelly is the one who just led the big song and dance number. David is the one Denton hands his card to. David seems irrationally angry when Denton is reassigned. And later, how do they know where Denton lives...?
** In the stage musical, Jack and Crutchie open the show sleeping together on the roof of the lodging house, sing about how they're going to run away together, and Jack's reaction to Crutchie being taken to the Refuge is [[HeroicBSOD pretty intense.]]
** Let's be real, this is a movie with almost an entire cast made up of young, nubile boys who live, sleep, and shower together (not to mention sing and dance). It's like a perfect storm of homoeroticism. If you took a shot every time something gay happened, you'd be drunk before the end of the opening song.

** The musical's Morris Delancey may look familiar to modern viewers. It's [[DearEvanHansen Connor Murphy!]]

* {{Memetic Mutation}}: Go and look it up, the poor GUY'S head is spinning! [[labelnote:Explanation]]A video of the Newsies cast preparing for a show backstage led to this meme after Ben Fankhauser (Davey) used this line as a vocal warm-up, which hilariously annoyed Andrew Keenan-Bolger (Crutchie). It became such a large meme that in the filmed production, when Fankhauser sings the line, Kara Lindsay (Katherine) can be seen in the background [[FunnyBackgroundEvent covering her smile.]] [[/labelnote]]

* Memetic Mutation: Go and look it up, the poor GUY'S head is spinning! [[labelnote:Explanation]]A video of the Newsies cast preparing for a show backstage led to this meme after Ben Fankhauser (Davey) used this line as a vocal warm-up, which hilariously annoyed Andrew Keenan-Bolger (Crutchie). It became such a large meme that in the filmed production, when Fankhauser sings the line, Kara Lindsay (Katherine) can be seen in the background [[FunnyBackgroundEvent covering her smile.]] [[/labelnote]]