Line #16 YMMV/FreddyVsJason


1	* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The soundtrack album is full of badass HeavyMetal tunes by bands such as Music/{{Slipknot}}, Music/{{Lamb of God}}, Music/{{Killswitch Engage}}, Music/{{Sepultura}}, Music/{{Chimaira}} and Music/{{In Flames}}.
2	* {{Adorkable}}: Charlie's attempts to impress Lori are hilariously awkward.
3	* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Notice how [[https://youtu.be/2PU-dGTWabQ Freddy's face]] goes from his usual SlasherSmile to a mixture of seriousness and confusion after Kia calls him a faggot. One could probably imagine that he was thinking "[[WhatTheHellHero Bitch, what is wrong with you]]?! [[EvenEvilHasStandards Even I wouldn't sink so low as to use homophobic slurs]]!" Or he was mad that she was accusing HIM of being gay... something that in the 70s would be looked at with disdain and hatred. Keep in mind that just a minute earlier he called Kia [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain "dark meat."]]
4	* BaseBreakingCharacter:
5	** Lori Campbell. Some think she's among the worst [[FinalGirl Final Girls]] in the series, if not ''the'' worst, because of Monica Keena's performance and the character being a very shallow stereotype. Others think she's a very brave and likable girl who manages to become a badass at the end.
6	** [[SassyBlackWoman Kia]] as well. Some viewers very much enjoyed Creator/KellyRowland's LargeHam performance and found the character to be both amusing and likeable. Others found her to be nothing more than a grating, poorly written stereotype and felt Kelly's performance was amongst the worst in the movie.
7	** Freddy Krueger has also fallen under this. Some see it as one of [[Creator/RobertEnglund Robert Englund’s]] [[SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct better portrayals as Freddy]] and found it as creepy and enjoyable as he was in the first couple films. Others despise [[LargeHam Robert hamming it up more times than necessary]] and the overuse of exposition [[BreakingTheFourthWall he explains to the audience]] despite the rather simple plot (though that one is less on Robert and more on the overall writing).
8	** Same with Jason Voorhees. Some fans saw it as one of the better portrayals of the character, praising him for his menacing size and more Frankenstein-esque movements as adding something new to the character. Others found it to be one of the most pathetic and laughable incarnations, criticizing said Frankenstein build as making him look and feel stiffer than even earlier installments and overall disliked his weird trait of being afraid of water all the sudden. Then there are those who hate this take altogether just because he’s not played by Creator/KaneHodder.
9	* CatharsisFactor: Admit it, you were cheering seeing Freddy get a brutal, bloody beating from Jason before getting his head cleaved off, ''especially'' if you're familiar with how vile he was in the previous films.
10	* CharacterRerailment: Freddy Krueger returns to the terrifying, demonic monster he was introduced as in the original movie from 1984, as he being played almost completely dead serious and has none of the sequels' campy trends or humour that he became infamous for. And while he still uses his witty one-liners, they're being used less for the silly humour like in the sequels and more - just like in the original movie - to emphasize just how much of a sadistic, murderous monster he actually is.
11	* CompleteMonster: See [[Monster/ANightmareOnElmStreet here]].
12	* ContestedSequel: Depending on the fan (of Freddy, Jason, or both), this movie is either the greatest thing to have happened in both franchises or an incoherent mess that pisses on their legacies.
13	* CreatorsPet: While it is actually a plot point, Jason getting way more kills than Freddy throughout the film can make him come across this way.
14	* CriticProof: Despite being bashed by critics, this is the highest-grossing film in the history of both franchises (or at least the ''Friday the 13th'' franchise, since the ''[[Film/ANightmareOnElmStreet2010 Nightmare]]'' [[Film/ANightmareOnElmStreet2010 reboot]] outgrossed this one).
15	* CultClassic: Being a crossover film featuring two iconic horror villains does that.
16	* DesignatedHero: Jason's undeniably ALighterShadeOfBlack compared to [[CompleteMonster Freddy]], but it's still a bit weird that someone with such an incredibly large body count is made out to unambiguously rooted for in the climax, especially because he [[spoiler: continues to kill our main characters during this time.]]
17	* EnsembleDarkhorse: Gibb (due to being played by popular scream queen Katharine Isabelle) and [[TheStoner Freeburg]] (because of his hilarious one-liners) tend to be the best received of the teens. This is despite how both of them have less than half an hour of screen time and neither character is around for the SignatureScene climax.
18	* EpilepticTrees: The film's ending generated a lot of WildMassGuessing; Ken Kirzinger (Jason's actor) mentioned in the commentary that a fan had asked him if the ending represented [[AscendedDemon Jason going to Heaven]].
19	* HilariousInHindsight:
20	** See that ''Franchise/MortalKombat'' shout-out on the main page of the movie? It's amusingly prophetic because with the announcement of the first DLC character for ''VideoGame/MortalKombatX'', Freddy and Jason have appeared in the ''Mortal Kombat'' series, in that order. ''VideoGame/MortalKombat9'' for Freddy and ''VideoGame/MortalKombatX'' for Jason. The mobile version of ''X'' even re-adds Freddy to the roster for those who wish to recreate the film, much like how ''X'' allows for a recreation of ''Film/AlienVsPredator'', and how ''VideoGame/MortalKombat11'' allows for a recreation of ''ComicBook/RoboCopVersusTheTerminator''.
21	** Jason Ritter stars in a story about a TownWithADarkSecret, with a parent who knows more than he seems to and is pretending the mysterious supernatural force in the town isn't real to protect his family? There's a FauxAffablyEvil demonic entity with a [[EvilHasABadSenseOfHumor twisted sense of a humor]] and a nice hat who enters peoples dreams to torment them? Are you sure this isn't ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls''?
22	*** Even more so considering the alternate ending of the film on the DVD had Jason Ritter’s character being possessed by said dream demon.
23	** A leaked outtake of the Funimation dub of ''Anime/DragonBallZ'' has Goku saying to Gohan "Hey, look at those faggot-ass clothes!"
24	** Will got dubbed in Italian by Creator/FrancescoPezzulli, who would go on to also dub Clay in ''Film/FridayThe13th2009''.
25	* IconicSequelOutfit: Jason's dark pants, black shirt, and heavy jacket has served as the basis for his design in most following ''Friday the 13th'' media, including the [[Film/FridayThe13th2009 remake]], ''VideoGame/MortalKombatX'', and ''VideoGame/FridayThe13thKillerPuzzle''.
26	* JustHereForGodzilla: Most people watch this film just for the fight, ignoring the forgettable humans entirely. It doesn't help that each character's name is only said a few times (if at all).
27	* MemeticMutation: Ever since this movie, multiple people within the ''Elm Street'' comics, as well as members of various horror fandoms, have taken to using "butter knives" as the go-to insult for Freddy's weapon.
28	* {{Misblamed}}: Fans are quick to blame Ronny Yu and Ronny Yu ''alone'' for the decision to [[TheOtherDarrin replace Kane Hodder with Ken Kirzinger as Jason Voorhees]], since Kane stopped receiving word after Ronny Yu was hired as director. In actuality, while he did ultimately agree to the change in casting, this was a decision made by the higher ups at New Line Cinema who wanted to recast Kane Hodder as they wanted a Jason that could tower over Freddy and had more expressive eyes. [[WordOfGod Even Yu admitted]] in both ''Never Sleep Again'' and ''Crystal Lake Memories'' documentaries that, even if he wasn’t a fan of either film series, he wasn't against Kane reprising Jason again as he knew both Sean S. Cunningham and the fans wanted it.
29	* MoralEventHorizon: Freddy's crossed this years ago, but this movie has one of his most vile actions: his possible attempted rape of [[spoiler:Lori]] in her nightmare after in a dream version of her house after revealing he murdered her mother.
30	* NarmCharm: The final fight is scripted to play out like a wrestling match, resulting in Freddy and Jason engaging in a surprising amount of slapstick comedy and Freddy suddenly displaying [[EverybodyWasKungFuFighting surprising proficiency in martial arts.]]
31	* RealismInducedHorror: What makes Lori's final nightmare in the film the most horrific, and one of Freddy's most vile actions, is [[spoiler:instead of attempting to kill her in bizarre and over the top manner as he's used to, he could very well have attempted to rape her. Admittedly, he's likely using his powers to render her unable to get up, but he's making a quick comment about "the first time" before chuckling as he lifts her skirt. What makes it stand out is this is some evil deed anyone, not just the demonized spirit of a perverted serial killer, would do to her, especially since she's established to be a virgin.]]
32	* RetroactiveRecognition:
33	** Will is played by Jason Ritter, the future voice of [[WesternAnimation/GravityFalls Dipper Pines]]. He was still known as the son of Creator/JohnRitter at the film's original release, though.
34	** Creator/EvangelineLilly appears as an extra, one year before her breakout role in ''Series/{{Lost}}''.
35	* RootingForTheEmpire: Even as a VillainBasedFranchise, both Freddy and Jason's presences easily outshine all of the other characters in the film, namely due to how underdeveloped/uninteresting the rest of them are.
36	* TheScrappy: While most characters have a few fans, no one likes Will. Jason Ritter's poor acting (to the point of smiling when his friends are dying) tends to be the biggest reason why. ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' fans may get a kick out of the RetroactiveRecognition, but that's about it.
37	* SignatureScene: The final fight between Freddy and Jason in Crystal Lake.
38	* SpiritualSuccessor: Or is it Spiritual ''Predecessor''? In November 1984, ''Fangoria'' magazine ran a 5-page color comic strip entitled "1st ''Fangoria'' Splatterbowl," by comic artists John Arnold and Linwood Sasser, wherein [[Franchise/{{Halloween}} Michael Myers]] took on Jason Voorhees and [[Film/TheTexasChainsawMassacre Leatherface]].
39	* {{Squick}}:
40	** Freddy kissing Lori in the form of her father, complete with sticking his tongue in her mouth.
41	** Freddy lifts [[spoiler:Lori]]'s skirt with a potential intent to rape her.
42	* TearJerker: Lori entering Jason's dream-world. Jason is a little kid, [[KidsAreCruel being viciously abused by the other children]], while two counsillors make out nearby and do nothing to help him. Basically she's witnessing the day Jason drowned. Lori is horrified and begs the counselors to help him, only for the man to turn into a mocking Freddy. She then dives in to save the crying kid who will become the monster that's killing her friends. It's one of the few times we ever see inside Jason's head and reminds us that beneath the undead killing machine is [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds a scared and abused child, endlessly reliving his loss of innocence.]]
43	* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter:
44	** Blake. Immediately after losing his best friend, Trey, and swearing revenge on Trey's killers... he's unceremoniously killed off by Jason.
45	** Mark. All we know about him is his brother was killed by Freddy, and he's on the up-and-up as far as the lore goes. He could have explained Krueger's MO and how to stop him to the others instead of their figuring it out in the forced, unlikely way they did.
46	** The movie could have been the perfect chance to bring back characters from both franchises, especially Tommy Jarvis and Alice Johnson. It's even sadder when you remember that this was the last chance for producers to do this, as both franchises would have a reboot years later.
47	* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: In order to prevent Freddy from creeping back into their children's dreams and killing them, the adults of Springwood enacted a town-wide conspiracy to slip their kids medication that prevents R.E.M. sleep and institutionalizing anyone who discovered the truth. This could be the premise of an ''Elm Street'' movie unto itself, yet it's completely forgotten about once the teens try to take an unconscious Jason back to Camp Crystal Lake.
48	* VindicatedByHistory: Although no one would say that this is a great movie, fan opinion seems to have improved over the years, especially after the mixed and/or negative reception of the reboots that the two franchises had years later. While the human characters and the pacing continue to be regarded as the film's biggest problems, many fans admit that when the film focuses on the two villains killing people in the most graphical ways possible or fighting each other, it delivers a lot.
49	* TheWoobie:
50	** Jason as he's being [[MindRape mind raped]] by Freddy in the dream world. As he's forced to relive his ill-fated drowning way back in Camp Crystal Lake. He's even reduced to the scared child that he is, with Freddy going so far as to rip off Jason's hockey mask and calling him an [[KickTheDog ugly piece of shit]]. Not just that, but before his first fight with Freddy begins, the latter yells him while he's disguised as Jason's mother, ranting about how disappointed "she" is that Jason didn't stop killing. Poor Jason even gasps in shock, thinking that he really did disappoint Pamela. [[EvenBadMenLoveTheirMamas Making his mother]] [[SoProudofYou proud of him]] has been his [[WellDoneSonGuy driving purpose]] as a mass serial killer, so hearing these words must have broken his heart, before he realized that Freddy was just using his mother's image to trick him into killing people.
51	** Gibb is treated badly by her boyfriend, becomes depressed by his death, and then is subjected to an AttemptedRape at the same time that Freddy is tormenting her in the dream world.
52	** Linderman is repeatedly harshly mocked by Kia when he tries to comfort his crush Lori, gets force-fed beer by several bullies as bystanders laugh at him, and then has a somber [[spoiler:DyingAlone]] moment.
53	** Mark had to watch Freddy drive his beloved brother to suicide and spends four years being unwillingly institutionalized, while being kept from having any contact with his parents. Even his friends think he's crazy. When he finally gets out, he has a MyGodWhatHaveIDone moment upon realizing he is playing right into Freddy's hands, before being subjected to a particularly brutal attack by Freddy.
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