Line #7 YMMV/SuperSmashBrosBrawl


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4	* AssPull:
5	** Tabuu's existence literally comes out of nowhere, seeing that he wasn't even foreshadowed in the game up until then.
6	** The final battle is preceded by one that benefits the heroes, with [[spoiler:Sonic coming out of nowhere and breaking Tabuu's wings to make fighting him possible]].
7	* BaseBreakingCharacter: Tabuu. Some think he's [[EvilIsCool cool]] and an interesting SNKBoss, others think he's a blatant GiantSpaceFleaFromNowhere and a cheap InvincibleVillain, and a third camp even views him as all of the above.
8	* BreatherBoss:
9	** [[VideoGame/MetroidPrime Meta Ridley]] is the second-to-last boss in the game, but is about as easy to defeat as [[WarmUpBoss Petey Piranha]]. Although his attacks are powerful, they are all telegraphed and easy to avoid; and his HP is significantly lower than the other bosses to make up for the fact that you are fighting him under a (very generous) time limit.
10	** Galleom's second fight is easy to breeze through since you can constantly spam Charizard's Rock Smash, which takes out large chunks of health.
11	* BrokenBase:
12	** The mode is one of the most polarizing aspects of the series, as arguments rage on how well it was implemented, whether the neutral setting was a waste of potential or not, the amount of focus ''Brawl'' puts on it, and whether it was better than ''[[VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosMelee Melee]]''[='=]s Adventure Mode or not. For the latter, however, there are many fans who want to see a newer Adventure Mode that combines the best of The Subspace Emissary and ''Melee''[='=]s Adventure Mode. For that matter, how ''[[VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosUltimate Ultimate]]''[='s=] own Adventure Mode, World of Light, measures up to SSE invites its own fair share of debate.
13	** A recurring discussion in the fanbase is whether this mode is [[SpotlightStealingCrossover biased]] towards the ''Franchise/{{Kirby}}'' series or not. Some fans will point out that Meta Knight's ''Halberd'' being central to the plot, Dedede's role as the BigGood, and Kirby saving the rest of the fighters by destroying the Subspace Gunship make them stand out, while others will argue that these claims are being blown out of proportion in that their lack of development or significant interactions with the remainder of the cast made those characters far less memorable than the likes of Lucas or R.O.B., and any other characters who did make a more significant impact in the story.
14	* DemonicSpiders:
15	** Armanks. These tanks can only be harmed when they temporarily expose their soft innards, which requires that you destroy the giant arms that they extend out of their tops. The problem is that while you're trying to destroy the arm, it's free to retaliate with a number of extremely punishing attacks, almost all of which can hit you from across the screen.
16	** Armights. Besides appearing out of literally nowhere, they can fly around and can deal a lot of damage with deceptively long-ranged sword attacks which are sometimes liable to juggle you. Not to mention that they can occasionally throw their swords, catching players who thought they could just stay at range off guard. Fortunately, they'll disappear on their own if not defeated fast enough.
17	** Autolances are ImmuneToFlinching while being unable to be grabbed, are highly resistant to damage, and have multiple attacks that are tricky to avoid and deal enormous amounts of damage and knockback, including a powerful and large lance projectile if you're away from them, and if you're near them a lance stab that comes out near instantaneously while it launches you on a dangerous low horizontal trajectory. Their only saving grace is that their weak points will become exposed once they take enough damage, making them go down quite quickly afterwards.
18	** Floows. They fly around very fast and their attack is a very powerful AOE attack that covers a large area, thus making it very difficult to avoid. They also have a lot of HP and regenerate their HP at a fast rate when damaged. However, they cannot move or attack while regenerating. Since by just attacking them you can get them just stuck doing nothing but regenerating until death, they're easily manageable alone, but when mixed in with large groups of other enemies you can no longer easily focus on them, which makes them much harder to kill and their massive AOE attack extremely threatening.
19	** Gamygas, totem-poles with five layers of bases and one giant face that you actually need to damage. The problem is that the face is so high up that a character can usually get in only one attack before falling back to the ground, and if a player decides to bring the face down to his level by attacking the bases, they quickly learn that Gamygas shoot ridiculously strong lasers at a rate of about two per second if they're not under constant fire (which resets their attacks). And because they're so tall, they take the prize for the hardest enemy to just avoid, even though they don't move from where they stand.
20	** Greaps are gigantic enemies who use long-ranged scythe attacks, one which is a downward scythe slam that deals obscene knockback, being able to even OHKO on Intense difficulty, and one of which is a jumping circular spin that strikes a massive area around it while dealing obscene damage, being able to deal over 100% with one usage of this attack on Intense. With these two attacks, the Greap is by far the greatest offensive threat to the play in the SSE. Furthermore, although its standard attack leaves it open for a while afterwards, it has a very large amount of health to back up its damage, and it has significant heavy armor that makes it very difficult to flinch while it cannot be grabbed. The saving grace against it is that its red head is a weakspot that causes significant damage to it when struck.
21	** Roturrets are, as their name implies, rotating turrets, which in quick constant intervals will shoot two streams of powerful energy blasts at you, that deal very high damage and knockback, and are very difficult to avoid. They're additionally highly durable and have heavy armor that requires you to hit them quite hard to flinch them, which with them being in the air farther limits the amount of attacks you can flinch them with. They're not too bad in solitary affairs if you can flinch them, but throw other enemies into the mix and they'll quickly be one of the most dangerous and difficult enemies in the game as they pound on you with constant powerful fire while you're unable to focus on them. The saving grace is that they're completely stationary, so if you don't need to kill one to advance you can run away from it easily.
22	* DisappointingLastLevel: The Great Maze features battles with every playable character you encounter up until that point, along with every boss character, all contained within an elaborate (but well-designed) maze. You cannot fight the FinalBoss without going through every room and completing every fight -- to put it into perspective, the level takes a few hours to complete in a game where stages are usually ten minutes long, give or take cutscenes. The level is so long that there are ''{{Save Point}}s'' in multiple locations, and completing it all in a single sitting is a Herculean task that can take upwards of two hours to get through even on the easiest difficulty. Oh, and good luck with HundredPercentCompletion.
23	* EnjoyTheStorySkipTheGame: The level design can be a bit tedious, and the lack of classic enemies may have put a lot of players off, but the gorgeous cutscenes and the characters' interactions make playing this mode at least once more than worth it.
24	* EnsembleDarkHorse: A number of the enemies that debuted here became fondly remembered amongst the fanbase thanks to their unique designs and behavior, with tons of fanart revolving around them sparking up online and even some wishing for them to return in future titles. Special mentions go to the [[TheGoomba Primids]], Tow Tows, Mites, Armights, and Floows.
25	* GameBreaker: Meta Knight. All of his attacks having long-disjointed reach with incredible frame data is still just as busted in this mode, with in particular his neutral aerial that deals 19% damage when both hits connect and is very fast, giving him some of the highest DPS against enemies and bosses, while since there's no stale-move negation in the mode, players can spam it with impunity. As for his special moves, Mach Tornado is useful both to clear large hordes of enemies and to traverse horizontal platforming sections quickly and safely, while Shuttle Loop makes vertical platforming a breeze and serves as an incredible "get off me" move that will get MK out of any trouble. And since all his moves besides his throws and dash attack are sword-based, powering him up with stickers is a simple matter of giving him some stickers that boost Slash and Weapon Attacks. Additionally his only weakness is his low weight, which can be boosted substantially with launch resistance stickers.
26	* GoddamnedBats:
27	** Buckots tend to fly very high out of your reach while dropping rains of white-hot ingots on you, which is beyond infuriating, especially if your character has poor vertical mobility.
28	** Bytans. They almost always show up in swarms and multiply constantly, so you if struggle with killing them they will become a near-never ending swarm. The Giant ones are less annoying since they don't multiply as fast, but they're far bulkier and hit far harder.
29	** The Glice/Glire/Glunder trio are small, move fast, and have a tendency to come out of nowhere. In a chaotic fight, you may not notice them until they attack, upon which they quickly release an AOE elemental discharge that deals considerable damage and either launches you with decent knockback (fire), stuns you in place with multiple hits thus leaving you vulnerable to being hit by stronger enemies (electric), or freezes you and allows other enemies to pound on you for extra damage (ice).
30	** Mites are very fragile and are weak when they hit you, but their very small size makes them very hard to hit, while they always come in large swarms and their attacks, while not a KO threat, have enough knockback to knock you off the ground and thus you can end up getting juggled between the mites constantly knocking you back and forth.
31	** Sword Primids aren't that durable and aren't much a threat to KO outside of very high damages, but they move pretty fast while their sword attacks cover a very long range and come out very fast. Their damage output is additionally surprisingly high and they tend to be in swarms, so on the higher difficulties they can bring a player from 0% to KO% very fast. For the extra annoyance factor, they can reflect projectiles back at you if you try pelting them with projectiles outside their great range.
32	* HardLevelsEasyBosses: With the exception of [[FinalBoss Tabuu]], most of the bosses in this mode aren't too difficult to deal with. The difficulty comes from traversing the levels and dealing with enemies while being forced into choosing a character, some of which are '''not''' adept at platforming. There are also a lot of GoddamnedBats and DemonicSpiders which will wreck you quickly, especially on higher difficulties.
33	* HarsherInHindsight: Snake's introductory line of "Kept you waiting, huh?" became this after Snake and the entire ''VideoGame/MetalGear'' series disappeared in [[VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosForNintendo3DSAndWiiU the next game in the series]], and fans would have to wait [[VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosUltimate over 10 years]] to see Snake in another ''Smash'' game. It also applies to his voice actor Creator/DavidHayter, who was fired from the role after 2010's ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidPeaceWalker'', and fans had to endure another long wait to hear him as Snake again in ''Ultimate''.
34	* IKnewIt: People figured out that the Ancient Minister was R.O.B. all along from looking at the shape of the Subspace Army's logo. It's a Gyromite disk seen from a different perspective.
35	* ItWasHisSled: Everybody knows about Tabuu's existence. Ditto for the Ancient Minister being the game's playable R.O.B.
36	* MagnificentBastard: [[Characters/KirbyKingDedede King Dedede]], the resident arch-frenemy of [[Characters/KirbyKirby Kirby]], turns out to be the single most effective operator in a cast already full of Nintendo heroes and villains alike. Already aware of [[BigBad Tabuu]]'s master plan, Dedede goes about gathering as many trophies as he can through a mixture of brute force and trickery, ambushing Luigi and then using his trophy form to tempt the greedy Wario long enough for Dedede to abscond with everyone Wario has captured. Even after he himself is turned into a trophy, Dedede's ChekhovsGun--in the form of a golden badge in his likeness that auto-resurrects anyone turned into a trophy--saves the day after the entire cast has been taken down by Tabuu, which allows Dedede to rally the remaining heroes and villains alike to face the true threat. As AffablyEvil as he is in canon and twice the manipulator, Dedede's plan ends up totally undoing Tabuu and everything he planned for.
37	* OneSceneWonder: [[VideoGame/KidIcarus Palutena]], who only appears to give Pit his sacred bow.
38	* SignatureScene:
39	** The Great Invasion--where the heroes mount an assault on [[BeamSpam the Subspace Gunship]] that ends with Kirby [[SpeedBlitz riding in]] on [[VideoGame/KirbyAirRide the Dragoon]] and [[FoeTossingCharge bisecting the entire dreadnought]], ''Brawl''[='s=] main theme [[ThemeMusicPowerUp blaring all the while]]--is almost unanimously regarded as [[MoneyMakingShot the one cutscene that makes the whole ride worth it]], even among some detractors who feel that the time and resources that went into SSE's development should have been allocated elsewhere.
40	** Certain character introductions are very memorable:
41	*** Captain Falcon leaps out of the Blue Falcon to deliver a Falcon Punch to a giant-sized R.O.B. (set to ''Brawl''[='s=] [[AwesomeMusic/SuperSmashBros rendition]] of "[[VideoGame/FZero Mute City]]"), runs over several VideoGame/{{Pikmin}} in the process, and [[SuperSentaiStance poses epically]] for a good five seconds [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments as Olimar watches]].
42	*** Snake makes his presence known inside the ''Halberd'' by lifting up his trusty cardboard box and saying-- ''[[BreakingTheFourthWall to the player]]''--"Kept you waiting, huh?"
43	*** Sonic hits both of Tabuu's wings with a Spin Dash, saving the entire cast of the game from being trophified again, lands on a peak, then spins to face the camera [[MascotWithAttitude and does his iconic finger wag.]]
44	** While the heroes are conducting an operation to reclaim the ''Halberd'', Snake instructs Peach and Zelda to stay hidden, much to their annoyance. After he leaves, the princesses exchange glances and Zelda disguises herself as Sheik, escorting Peach out of the room while the latter giggles.
45	** The scene where Wario captures Ness. Never before or since has Wario been genuinely sinister and frightening.
46	** The scene where Samus finally regains her Power Suit, set to [[AwesomeMusic/SuperSmashBros a chillingly triumphant arrangement of her theme]].
47	** Ridley grabbing Samus, slamming her into a wall and grinding her face against it was so iconic (and rather horrific) that it's sort of become a SignatureMove for him, coming back as one of his attacks in ''VideoGame/MetroidOtherM'' and later featuring as his Side Special when he was PromotedToPlayable in ''Ultimate''.
48	* SignatureSeriesArc: The ''Halberd'' stages. Many iconic scenes occur here, from Snake's first playable appearance in the story, to Lucario lifting Snake's box off of him and Snake doing the iconic [[AlertnessBlink "!" and accompanying sound]], to Peach defying LetsYouAndHimFight when Sheik and Fox butt heads [[Funny/SuperSmashBrosBrawl by offering them tea]], to Mr. Game & Watch goofing around with Peach's parasol.
49	* SpiritualSuccessor: To ''VideoGame/KirbySuperStar''. The enemies fight similarly to ''Kirby'' enemies, the [[EasyLevelsHardBosses bosses are harder than the levels]], and the ''Super Smash Bros.'' combat system is already similar to that of ''Kirby Super Star''. This mode itself gets one in [[VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosForNintendo3DSAndWiiU the 3DS version of the fourth game]] in the form of the Smash Run mode, as it plays similarly in terms of defeating enemies, has the red doors from this mode, and even some of the Subspace Army mooks reappear as enemies in Smash Run.
50	* ThatOneAttack:
51	** Tabuu's Off Waves, which are an invariable [[OneHitKill OHKO]] attack that covers the entire stage, making them impossible to evade via getting out of the way. However, with some timing and use of a sidestep or rolling dodge, they can be easily evaded, though this attack has made Tabuu near impossible for the inexperienced who don't have their sidestep/rolling timing down.
52	** For {{No Damage Run}}s, there's Duon's charge attack and Porky's homing laser. The former has weird hitboxes, that can drag characters along even when intangible, where the characters then get damaged as the charge's hitboxes remain as the intangibility runs out; whether a character gets dragged or not depends on the character's build, and for some characters, can make it nearly impossible to avoid getting damaged by. The latter is a long-lasting, multi-hitting attack that follows your movement and will instantly shatter shields, requiring multiple precise dodges to evade. Like Duon's charge, this attack also affects certain characters much worse than others.
53	* ThatOneBoss:
54	** Duon, a boss with very high HP, [[MultiformBalance the ability to switch between melee and ranged specializations on a whim]], many difficult-to-evade attacks that hit hard and cover a large area, and attributes that can make it especially difficult for some characters (such as its significant slash resistance, making its titanic HP even greater against sword characters). Players generally consider it even more difficult than the game's final boss Tabuu (and inexperienced players only have more trouble with Tabuu when they can't dodge his one-hit KO Off Waves, which is easy to do once you get the timing down).
55	** The Giant False Diddy Kong is just awful. Keep in mind that Diddy's main weaknesses are averagely damaging but quick attacks and being somewhat light. This monster negates both weaknesses, requiring at least 200% damage before one can even think of [=KOing=] it, while it can knock you out at '''0%''', while having attacks that cover half the screen. Its tendency to scramble after items doesn't help, as items grow to its size when picked up. This also applies to giant characters in ''Brawl'' in general, who all are ridiculously overpowered; see, ''Brawl''[='s=] physics were deliberately designed to nerf the concept of {{combo}}s, which were otherwise the primary weakness of giant characters, while the giant characters themselves were made drastically more powerful. Oh, that's not all. You have to do this fight ''again'' after you beat the mode if you want to unlock Jigglypuff. Sure, you have more fighters to choose from, but it doesn't help in this case.
56	* ThatOneLevel:
57	** The Subspace Bomb Factory; it's the longest level in the game besides The Great Maze, is chock full of dangerous encounters, has the most grueling battle sequence in the game that finishes with the only time you'll fight two [[DemonicSpider Armanks]] at once, features a deadly auto-scrolling section that will get your characters killed easily should they fall the least bit behind, and to cap it all off it has a boss battle at the end of it. Fortunately, the boss, Meta Ridley, is [[BreatherBoss very easy to defeat]] as previously covered, though trying to turn him into a trophy is another story.
58	** The Great Maze. It is by far the biggest level in the game, so much so instead of being a straightforward level like the rest it is instead an open-ended labyrinth. On paper it sounds interesting to have the final area be a mini-metroidvania, but in practice it is extremely tedious as in order to complete the level and get to the final boss, you need to explore every nook and cranny of the Great Maze and [[BossRush refight every single boss]] as well as fight ''all'' the playable characters sans five (Sheik, Sonic, Jigglypuff, Toon Link, and Wolf). The Great Maze being made up of recycled levels further adds to the grind and can make it hard to remember where to go. The worst part is though how HUGE the Great Maze is, as mentioned before it is unquestionably the [[MarathonLevel longest level in the game]] and takes up ''at least a third of the entire Subspace Emissary's length''. It is often regarded as the worst part of the Subspace Emissary and many a fan refuses to replay the mode because of the Great Maze alone.
59	* ThatOneSidequest:
60	** The Meta Ridley Trophy is probably the single hardest boss Trophy to get. Not only are you required to beat down Meta Ridley until he's near death, you have wait for a Trophy Stand to randomly spawn (during a [[TimeLimitBoss timed fight]]) and then throw it at Meta Ridley between attacks while he's between attack patterns and floating above a BottomlessPit. [[note]]While you can throw the stand at him during his attack animations, it's way more risky since it's easier to miss or get interrupted.[[/note]] To add insult to injury, this is all at the end of what is arguably the [[ThatOneLevel most difficult level in the game]].
61	** Duon's Trophy isn't much better. Everything mentioned about his fight above also applies, but there are a few differences. First, you have to constantly avoid its attacks after taking down most of its HP, which is harder than it looks. Duon also has homing missile attacks. These can hit pretty hard if you're not careful, but they can also hit Duon as well. If Duon's Health is low enough, it'll be KO'd, meaning you have to redo the fight again. You might be in the fight for mere minutes before a Trophy Stand shows up.
62	* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter:
63	** Sonic and his role as the EleventhHourRanger. Given that he was one of the major guest characters advertised for the game, many were disappointed that he did not play a role in the story until literally the very end. This was because Creator/{{Sega}} didn't grant Creator/{{Nintendo}} the rights to use Sonic until late in the game's development.
64	** Squirtle, Ivysaur and Charizard barely appear in cutscenes and are essentially treated as non-characters, in favor of their Pokémon Trainer being the one to appear in cutscenes and get any development. The former only appears in the Trainer's introductory cutscene, and the latter two only appear when he's capturing them and as trading cards/photos that he owns. Many fans found this to be emblematic of how the Trainer's Pokémon in general in ''Brawl'' were treated more as bland partial characters and mechanics for his fighting style than the rest of the cast. This was fixed in ''Ultimate'', where the Trainer as well as his trio of starters are prominent in the World of Light intro cutscene, and each of the three as well as both the male and female Trainers were better established as characters in their own right.
65	* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:
66	** One of the biggest complaints leveled against The Subspace Emissary is that, in spite of the stellar cast of classic characters, the story takes place in a neutral setting that has nothing to do with their respective home series. Many who were hoping for the biggest CrisisCrossover story in the history of video games were disappointed, especially considering ''Melee''[='=]s own Adventure Mode was centered around trekking through stages based on each character's individual worlds.
67	** Those who are fine with the neutral setting instead lament that enemies from Nintendo games are almost entirely absent in this mode. While five of the eight bosses come from existing Nintendo games, the regular enemies are made up almost entirely of an OriginalGeneration, with only ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'' getting any enemies in the mode.
68	* VindicatedByHistory: The Subspace Emissary received, at best, a lukewarm reception, even being called the "worst part of the game" by a lot of the fans... until 2013, when it was announced there wouldn't be a mode like that in ''[[VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosForNintendo3DSAndWiiU 3DS/Wii U]]''. Fans of the mode started to make their voice heard that they ''liked'' it (which was unheard of when it came out) due to it playing with the ''Smash'' formula in a good way, all the [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome Awesome Moments]] in the cutscenes (like The Great Invasion, mentioned above), and [[spoiler:the scene where Ganondorf forces the R.O.B.s to blow themselves up being one of the darkest moments in-series, if not Nintendo history as a whole]].
69	* TheWoobie: Lucas is probably up there with [[spoiler:the R.O.B.s]] in terms of woobie-ness. His first scene shows him wandering a desolate wasteland alone, he has to fight Porky -- the man that [[spoiler:killed his mother and brainwashed his brother into becoming a ruthless killing machine]] -- ''again'', and he has to watch Ness get taken out in a HeroicSacrifice to save him from Wario. Is it any wonder he's cowering and timid for most of his cutscenes?
70	* WoobieSpecies: [[spoiler:The R.O.B.s were contracted by Ganondorf and company to help them shroud the world in subspace. To do this, Subspace Bombs must be detonated manually by two R.O.B.s each, with detonators consumed and destroyed by the resulting explosion. Near the end of the story, [[VillainOverride Ganondorf takes control of them all]] and forces them to attack their own leader, then makes them drive themselves to near extinction by detonating every single Subspace Bomb in their own homeland. The final shot of them has them closing their eyes, aware of what's happening and unable to stop it.]]
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74	* AccidentalInnuendo: Mr. Game & Watch's down taunt looks like he's FlippingTheBird.
75	* AlasPoorScrappy: Mewtwo was one of, if not the most, unpopular characters to play in ''Melee'', due to its highly unorthodox design and being considered the worst character in the game at the time. Cue ''Brawl''[='=]s release, and a large portion of the fanbase complains about its exclusion, and with the 3DS/Wii U installments, there are those who dearly wished for its return. Thankfully, Sakurai and company listened to the fanbase and released the character as DLC for the fourth game (and even made it free if you bought both versions).
76	* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: [[VideoGame/KidIcarus Pit's]] ''Brawl'' incarnation was often portrayed in fanfiction as a pure, submissive, weak, kind, holy, and innocent being (in other words, like one of the common stereotypes of angels). To be fair, this was before ''VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising'' was released and developed his personality, and ''Brawl'' gave few hints of his or any other ''Kid Icarus'' characters' personalities. All the fandom that paid attention knew of Pit at the time was the implication that he was overconfident or possibly even arrogant, and a hidden conversation Snake has with Otacon that says he's far stronger and [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld older]] than he looks.
77	* AlternativeJokeInterpretation: [[VideoGame/MetalGear Solid Snake]] reveals in a codec conversation that he's weirdly annoyed by Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog, and when pressed, [[IrrationalHatred he's unable to explain why beyond "there's something about him I just don't like."]] Fans have theorized many possible explanations: some believe this to be an ActorAllusion as Creator/ChikaoOhtsuka (father of Snake's Japanese VA, Creator/AkioOtsuka) voiced Sonic's arch-enemy Dr. Eggman, others interpret this as an AnimalJingoism joke ([[StealthPun hedgehogs eat snakes]] in the wild), or perhaps an acknowledgement of the fact both Snake and Sonic were the first third-party characters added to ''Super Smash Bros.'', with Snake's annoyance being jealousy towards his competitor.
78	* AntiClimaxBoss: Because All-Star Mode has you face all of the characters of Nintendo's franchises (and ''Metal Gear'' and ''Sonic'') in the order their series were made, Olimar is always the one you fight last due to ''VideoGame/{{Pikmin}}'' being the most recent one. He's always by himself, his attacks without the Pikmin are weak if you can separate him from them, and since ''3DS/Wii U'' wasn't a thing yet, Olimar doesn't have a very reliable recovery move. Not only that, but the stage is always Distant Planet, which not only has a OneHitKO hazard in the form of the Bulborb, but also the rain effect which makes half of the stage practically useless to fight on when it's active. Needless to say, he's the easiest to take out.
79	* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PInuVXgxO1g The game's main theme is this to many.]] With its triumphant music, its Latin chorus and its incredible use in The Subspace Emissary, even those who don't like the game can agree that this song sounds absolutely cracking.
80	* [[Awesome/VideoGameLevels Best Level Ever]]:
81	** The [=WarioWare=] stage shares a similiar gimmick with the game it's based on, featuring short minigames at regular intervals that reward the players with buffs upon being completed. The catchy songs only help how fun the stage is.
82	** [=PictoChat=]'s gimmick is that pictures are drawn into the stage, altering its layouts and generating hazards in creative ways.
83	** Few stages perfectly match the chaos that comes with a game like ''Smash Bros'' as perfectly as Delfino Plaza does. The hectic but fun music, the constantly shifting stage, and the beautifully moving background always make it a joy to play.
84	** For the competitive community, [[VideoGame/AnimalCrossing Smashville]] is seen in this light. It's widely regarded as the most balanced of any tourney-legal stage,possible even more than Battlefield.
85	** For both the casual and competitive communities, the game's iteration of Final Destination is beloved for its insane, groundbreaking visuals and epic version of the game's main theme.
86	* BreatherBoss: Crazy Hand. While Master Hand has some of the best boss attacks in the game for his exclusive moves, Crazy Hand instead has some of the worst boss attacks for his exclusives (two of which are heavily telegraphed and can be evaded just by moving away). The rest of his attacks are also ridiculously easy to evade except for the Hand Drill (which he performs later in his attack pattern than Master Hand, making him use it less), and his attacks are extremely weak for a boss (while the few that can KO are again very easy to dodge). Crazy Hand is such an easy boss that in the team-up with Master Hand at the end of Classic Mode, decent players will have the battle won once they defeat Master Hand regardless of their damage. Then there is his Boss Battles version, which drastically nerfs his HP to the worst among bosses in the game, leaving him a freebie in the mode for any remotely competent player.
87	* BreatherLevel: Facing Metal Pit in Classic Mode. With most Metal Opponents, you'll have to deal large chunks of damage to KO the opponent. For Metal Pit, if you're able to get him off the stage, there's a good chance he won't recover since his recovery is pretty much nonexistent since his Up Special doesn't work that well when he's encased in metal. If he attacks you while you recover, he's done for. In other words, whenever Metal Pit's off-stage, you win.
88	* ComeForTheGameStayForTheMods: Despite the game not being a favorite amongst the competitive community, ''Brawl'' was still relatively popular because it was easy to mod. The most famous of these mods being ''VideoGame/ProjectM'', which fixed many of the issues people had with it, as well as making it feel closer to ''Melee''.
89	* CommonKnowledge:
90	** Two related to Sonic. First that the game was delayed due to him, and second that it being rushed affected his moveset. Sonic was decided quite a while before the delay was decided (though the fact that the delay was announced the same day Sonic was did not help). Additionally, Sakurai himself stated in Famitsu he went through several ''Sonic'' games and decided on a moveset mixing his SimpleYetAwesome play style from the Mega Drive games and fighting moves of fellow SEGA series, ''Virtua Fighter''.
91	** It is common belief that Sheik was intended to appear in ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess'', scrapped, and the design was used for ''Brawl''. While Sakurai did reveal the artists of the former game created the design, ''Hyrule Historia'' states the design was created with ''Smash'' in mind, and was simply ''Twilight Princess'' inspired.
92	* ContestedSequel: Sakurai's team went off their way to make the game as mainstream-accessible as possible (particularly because ''Melee'' turned out to be too hardcore, and because the Wii itself was aimed at casual gamers), altering a number of physics and mechanics and including the nightmare of every ''SSB'' player, [[ScrappyMechanic TRIPPING]]. While the production quality of the game is agreed to be high quality, the changes to the gameplay alienated some longtime fans, particularly competitive players.
93	* CriticalDissonance: ''Brawl'' received many positive reviews with a higher Metacritic score than ''Melee'' and sold more copies. Given the ongoing strife in the community and just by looking at this page, you'd be surprised how it sold so well or even got those reviews.
94	* CrossoverShip: In a large portion of the fandom, it's acknowledged that Solid Snake/Samus Aran is the OneTruePairing of the game. This has less to do with any perceived shipping (though there is at least some display of interest on Snake's side, via his Codec conversations) and more to do with the fact that their combined sex appeal is dense enough to create a singularity.
95	* DisappointingLastLevel: Or rather, Disappointing Last Event. Many fans consider ''Brawl'' Event 41, "The Final, FINAL Battle", to be a lazier, inferior version of ''Melee'' Event 51, "The Showdown". It pits the player against Snake, Sonic and an overpowered Giant Mario (in place of Ganondorf, Mewtwo, and Giga Bowser respectively). The battle is ridiculously [[AntiClimaxBoss anti-climactic]], as it's possible to trick Giant Mario into falling off the ledge in just a few seconds.
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97	* GoodBadBugs:
98	** The "Smash Stack" exploit, which is the most common way to load mods for that game. However, it can also be used to install other homebrew. Unlike the [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess Twilight Hack]], it still works with newer firmware, as well as the Wii U's Wii Mode.
99	** Performing Kirby's down special on the right edge of the stage on [=PictoChat=] will cause the game to act as though he is hitting the ground over and over. This leads to the screen to shake and any opponent that goes near it will take damage multiple times.
100	** The Bridge of Eldin stage has a section of bridge be constructed after it is destroyed. For some reason, this also cancels final smashes, which sometimes leads to hilarious results:
101	*** If Jigglypuff is in the middle of her final smash as the bridge is fully completed, it will cancel...but she'll stay the same size she was when it happened. This leads to her turning into a Kaiju that covers most of the camera. Her hitboxes are also way bigger and can take up much of the playing area, with the downside that it is very easy to get killed by going past the blast zone.
102	*** If this happens to R.O.B. while the animation of his final smash is occurring, then the attack will continue forever as long as he isn't KO'd.
103	** Olimar can continually pluck Pikmin during Kirby's final smash to both avoid getting sucked in and cause a large amount of items to come out.
104	* MemeticBadass: Meta Knight, due to being widely considered a massive GameBreaker to the point where not only does he get his own tier in that game, but that incarnation of him is often considered to be the best character in the ''entire series''. He's so badass that tournament players cower in fear unless he's explicitly banned from character selection. Adding to this is that Meta Knight is already very popular among ''Kirby'' fans for his [[TheStoic stoic]] and honorable nature and his Zorro-esque voice in the English dub of [[Anime/KirbyRightBackAtYa the anime]].
105	* MemeticLoser: Ganondorf, for eschewing his swordplay from [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker then]]-[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess recent]] ''Zelda'' games in favor of retaining his Captain Falcon-based moveset despite having his stockier build from ''Twilight Princess'', leading to jokes about him being fat and out-of-shape. On the competitive side of things, Ganondorf is mocked for being the worst character in the game. This status would continue into the next game, though he has a bit of a MemeticTroll reputation going on there as well, and would be completely dropped as of ''Ultimate'' (despite his still being a lackluster character there) for ''finally'' using his sword for his smash attacks and getting some much-needed love in terms of overhauls and aesthetics.
106	* {{Narm}}: The opening narration of the "Main Theme (Metroid)" track, for sounding like some cheesy military ad calling for the player to join the fight and help Samus even though she's a OneManArmy in the games. Only one other track in the game ("Opening/Menu (Metroid Prime)", played on the Frigate Orpheon stage) has a narration like this, but it's considerably more in tone with the stage's dark atmosphere as per [[VideoGame/MetroidPrime the source material]].
107	* NeverLiveItDown: Captain Falcon was considered the worst character for the first two tier lists (which covers about the first year of the game's competitive scene), and while like ''Melee'' Mewtwo where he was eventually discovered to be a lot more potent than his bottom-tier brethren and would permanently rise out of the bottom tier, he never shook off the stigma of worst character and even for a low-/bottom-tier character had almost no serious players throughout ''Brawl''[='=]s entire competitive life, despite being an immensely popular character in the rest of the ''Smash'' games. This stigma didn't follow him into ''Smash 4'', though, where he has perpetually been considered a high-tier character and had a very large flock of players playing him since Day 1.
108	* OnceOriginalNowCommon: With how many third-party characters have been added to the series since the release of ''Brawl'', it's easy to forget how shocking [[VideoGame/MetalGear Snake]]'s reveal was back in 2006. Whereas all the previous characters were from franchises owned by Nintendo, Snake was the first instance of a third-party character being included as a playable character, which generated a huge amount of hype for the game at that point since it now meant the possibilities for who could be included was near endless. Furthermore, Snake was from a franchise that was predominately M-rated and tied to the [=PlayStation=] family of consoles, which made his inclusion in a roster full of characters generally aimed towards younger audiences and Nintendo fans stick out even more. Today, with the advent of various internet-breaking third-party characters like [[Franchise/StreetFighter Ryu]], [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII Cloud Strife]], VideoGame/{{Bayonetta}}, and [[VideoGame/Persona5 Joker]], Snake, while still popular among ''Smash'' fans, tends to stick out less, especially since Bayonetta and Joker also happen to be from franchises that are mainly geared at mature audiences. Newer fans who got into the series with either ''For 3DS/Wii U'' or ''Ultimate'' may be wondering what exactly the big deal with Snake's return in the latter game was, whereas at the time of ''Brawl'', it was such a shocking surprise among many fans at that point.
109	* OneSceneWonder: [[spoiler:[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty The AI Colonel]]]] only appears in one Codec conversation, but said conversation is one of the most memorable in the game.
110	* OlderThanTheyThink: Fox and Falco's unique victory quotes against each other, as well as Falco's "Hands off my prey!" quote, originated [[https://tcrf.net/Super_Smash_Bros._Melee/Unused_Audio in the Japanese version]] of ''Melee'' rather than ''Brawl''.
111	* RefrainFromAssuming: That oddly epic song that plays throughout the game is not called "Audi Famam Illius". The title actually is "Super Smash Bros. Brawl Main Theme".
112	* ScrappyMechanic:
113	** Tripping. Whenever players make a dash input, they may, by [[RandomNumberGenerator completely random chance]], trip over and leave themselves vulnerable. While a disruptive annoyance in general, this commonly causes players to trip and get hit by attacks they would have avoided otherwise to no fault of their own. This only applies to ''random'' tripping, not ''forced'' tripping caused by attacks, as the latter is triggered by players and can be part of legitimate strategies. There was much rejoicing when random tripping was removed from the fourth game.
114	** Hitstun cancelling is the most detested mechanic in ''Brawl'' after tripping. Whenever a player is hit by an attack, they can do an air dodge after 12 frames of hitstun, or an aerial after 25 frames, regardless of the knockback they sustained. This mechanic meant players suffer barely any practical hitstun regardless of what they were hit by, which caused multiple detrimental aspects in the game. The first is that combos were almost nonexistent, and the few that remained were mostly from chain throws or extremely weak yet fast attacks that could chain multiple hits into itself. The second was that many attacks could result in the player getting punished for hitting with them at low damages, and the player was always at risk for pursuing an opponent they just launched. The third is that it allowed [[http://www.ssbwiki.com/Momentum_canceling momentum cancelling]]; since characters could act so early out of hitstun, they would be able to make actions while in knockback that redirected it, reduced its distance, or even completely negate it, allowing characters to survive to far higher damages than they were intended to. This mechanic was the main culprit for why ''Brawl'' was such a slow-paced and defensive game, as it both simultaneously made it more difficult to rack up damage and more difficult to KO opponents.
115	** The revamped air dodge. Removal of wavedashing aside, the fact that ''Brawl'' air dodge is highly spammable and hard to punish makes it ''too'' effective for its intended use, which, combined with ledge planking and camping, turns ''Brawl'' into a game of turtling instead of the offensively oriented ''Melee''. This was alleviated in the 4th installment; the air dodge is still momentum-conserving like in ''Brawl'', but you can no longer air dodge out of hitstun, and air dodging near the ground now produces significant landing lag for all characters, making it much more punishable.
116	** "Autosnap" ledges, which made ledges much easier to grab and allowed characters to grab them from much farther away, to a degree that is commonly seen as a GameBreaker.
117	** The significant amount of invincibility grabbing a ledge grants, that can be indefinitely replenished by regrabbing the ledge. While abuseable in prior games, the easier to grab ledge, floatier falling speeds, and generally improved recoveries, made the act of "planking" (i.e. repeatedly letting go and regrabbing the ledge to exploit its invincibility) much more prominent. This made being on the ledge, which should normally be one of the most disadvantageous places to be, an extremely safe spot, and some characters could abuse it to a degree where they were nearly unhittable, to where they could reliably utilise it to stall out a match they are winning (Meta Knight, already generally deemed a GameBreaker, was especially notorious for his game breaking planking). This led to almost all tournaments adopting a "ledge grab limit" rule (the tournament would have a limit on the amount of times you can grab the ledge in a game, and should a match timeout, the result screen will be checked and a player who went over the limit automatically loses regardless of their lead). ''Smash 4'' would address this by making it so that regrabbing the ledge without getting hit or landing on the stage first will result in no invincibility whatsoever, leaving you extremely vulnerable to eating a heavy punish.
118	** Two that are exclusive to the Pokémon Trainer:
119	*** The stamina and forced switching mechanic. If a player uses one Pokémon for too long, that Pokémon will gradually dish out less damage and receive more knockback when hit, forcing the Trainer to switch them out regularly. Symbolically, this represents Pokémon fighting as a team. Mechanically, this becomes a tactical nightmare in tournaments, and made the Trainer especially vulnerable to turtling tactics. This is also believed to be one of the major reasons why fan-favorite Pokémon Charizard failed to garner a significant ''Smash''-based fanbase.
120	*** Type Effectiveness. The Trainer's Pokémon are also affected differently by their respective weaknesses/resistances. Just like in the ''Pokémon'' games, Charizard, Squirtle, and Ivysaur sustain more knockback from water, grass, and fire-based attacks respectively, while they sustain less knockback from grass, fire, and water-based attacks respectively. Since Squirtle and Ivysaur are the only characters in the game with water and grass attacks, this weakness only really mattered to Squirtle and Charizard in Pokémon Trainer dittos, but since many characters have fire-based attacks, this left Ivysaur at an innate and exploitable disadvantage no other character had against the rest of the cast, bolstering its status as a LowTierLetdown.
121	*** To everyone's relief, both of these maligned mechanics were removed when the Pokémon Trainer returned in ''Ultimate''.
122	** Excessive stale-move negation. In layman's terms, spamming any move causes said move to get weaker, knocking back enemies less and less. This effect is much more severe in ''Brawl'' than it is in the previous games, as while the previous games just reduced damage, ''Brawl'' also reduces a move's knockback. Among average players, this mechanic is hated for widening the gap between characters with several reliable finishers and those with few. But with competitive players, the main problem this introduces is it [[NotTheIntendedUse allows some moves to combo into themselves far longer than they reasonably should]], making certain stale moves in certain situations more useful than the fresh move, and in some cases, can completely break certain match-ups, such as Sheik's forward tilt or Pikachu's down throw on the ''Star Fox'' characters.
123	** While the lack of buffering can be a scrappy lack-of-mechanic for primary ''Brawl'' players, buffering becomes a Scrappy Mechanic for dedicated ''Melee'' players, since due to the way the system works, it can cause unintended inputs that lead to grave mistakes, particularly accidental neutral air attacks that give the player no chance to recover.
124	** The fact that you can't straight-up restart Event Matches like you could in ''Melee'', as the [=GameCube=] controller's Z button (or its equivalent on other controllers) now lets you take snapshots instead, like in other modes in the game. Not only do the other two options -- quitting and failing -- take longer, but the former requires a button combination that can strain your fingers, depending on the controller used. This was carried over to the Wii U version of the fourth game.
125	* SuspiciouslySimilarSong: The remix of ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots Metal Gear Solid 4]]'''s Love Theme introduced in this game sounds remarkably similar to the main theme of the ''Franchise/PiratesOfTheCaribbean'' films.
126	* ThatOneAttack:
127	** Master Hand's Finger Flick, Hand Swipe, and Hand Drill, all of which have near-instantaneous start-up without any telegraphing (unlike other boss attacks), while either dealing very high knockback (the former two) or dealing extreme damage (the lattermost). Special mention goes to the Hand Drill, which is also flat-out impossible for most characters to evade without going offstage (where they then have minimal time to do so, especially if they're hit by the Hand Drill as it starts up). These attacks are so effective, they bring what would have been a middling boss to perhaps the most difficult in the game, only being contended with by Duon in The Subspace Emissary (at least in Classic Mode; his Boss Battles incarnation has drastically nerfed HP, leaving him with less HP than every other boss except Crazy Hand in that mode, and leaving it so low that most characters can defeat him before he can complete one attack cycle, ensuring players often won't have to deal with these attacks).
128	** Tabuu's Off Waves attack. He teleports into the background, materialises his wings and unleashes three damaging shockwaves that cover the entire screen and are capable of [[OneHitKO instantly defeating your character]] on any difficulty higher than Easy. The only way to survive is by spotdodging each wave with ''extremely'' precise timing. They are bad enough in the Subspace Emissary, but are infinitely worse in Boss Rush mode, where you only have one life and failure means having to replay the entire mode over from the beginning.
129	* ThatOneBoss: The battle with Master Hand and Crazy Hand at the end of Classic Mode. Master Hand himself in Classic Mode is challenge because of the aforementioned attacks, and his high HP in Classic Mode ensures players will have to deal with them. Throw in Crazy Hand to distract you from being able to preemptively prepare for these moves while giving you another full-powered boss to fight, and welp, good luck taking them down on Intense difficulty without any stock loss (Crazy Hand alone himself, however, is a complete pushover, so if you can take down Master Hand, you'll have the fight won).
130	* ThatOneLevel:
131	** Stages:
132	*** Hanenbow, and [[AbridgedArenaArray not just]] in TournamentPlay. The stage itself is only comprised of small platforms which tilt every which way when hit by the players or the Electroplankton bouncing around the arena, with no single "large" platform to stand on. It causes matches played on it to feel very cramped, which is frustrating in a highly mobile game like ''Smash''.
133	*** Mario Bros. looks exactly like the level from [[VideoGame/MarioBros the titular game]]. The only ways to get KO'd are either from the top or by getting launched into one of the narrow edges. The cramped stage and numerous Shellcreepers and Sidesteppers make it difficult to play on.
134	*** 75m could have potentially been a fun stage, being based on the third level of ''VideoGame/DonkeyKong''. However, the stage is very large, very disjointed, has annoying springs that come out every so often, is comprised almost entirely out of tiny platforms, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking has a very poor music track list]]. It later returned for the Wii U version of the fourth game, but it got an even ''worse'' design, as some platforms were shrunk down, making matches even ''more'' cramped.
135	*** Rumble Falls frustratingly speeds up at completely random times (though it does have the courtesy to warn you first), putting slower characters at a disadvantage as they have a hard time keeping up. Not helping Rumble Falls' case is the one-hit KO spike that appears partway through the stage, as it can easily KO a player who isn't watching out for it.
136	*** New Pork City is an absolutely massive stage with a ton of empty space that's difficult to move in, and opponents will often live to ludicrous percents. While it's a stage most people dislike playing on even casually, it's at its worst in single-player modes, as you ''must'' play on this stage whenever you fight Ness or Lucas.
137	** Classic Mode:
138	*** In the fourth stage, you have a 50/50 shot of fighting on New Pork City, a massive level in which characters can survive to absurd damage percents. There is an additional chance of it being a multi-man battle that can easily slog on for multiple minutes, given the rather passive AI that will often wander around the stage aimlessly. What makes this aggravating is that you can only fight Crazy Hand at the end of the mode by reaching Master Hand within nine minutes, so getting New Pork City instead of Castle Siege is essentially a run ender.
139	*** The requisite two matches against giant characters, especially so in the later stages where you don't get an ally; giants are ludicrously overpowered in Brawl, as they have massive range, their attacks do about triple the damage, they can KO you ridiculously early (on Intense a smash attack from one will often KO as low as around 20%), items they pick up will grow to match their size, and of course they take a ton more punishment to KO. Giants are supposed to have the major weakness of being extremely vulnerable to combos, but since this is Brawl with its 12 frame hitstun cancelling, you can't really combo them and thus leaving them without a weakness to balance them out. The saving grace is that they're extremely susceptible to chain throws like Dedede's, where they can be chain thrown to extreme percents or outright infinited, but few characters have access to such chain throws to exploit against them. Note that this doesn't apply to the giant Yoshi you can fight in stage two, as it's the only time you get two allies against a giant (Diddy and Donkey Kong), where with three-against-one you'll be able to easily overwhelm the giant Yoshi and often prevent it from even getting any attacks in, so much so that this one is a BreatherLevel.
140	*** The Free-For-All stage before Master and Crazy Hand. Even though it's an FFA, the three CPU opponents here will GangUpOnTheHuman, following wherever you go and making avoiding being in the middle of the fray about impossible. Additionally this stage is where the opponents' knockback strength and knockback resistance multipliers are at their highest, so on Intense difficulty you'll really struggle to KO opponents here at reasonable percents without a good item while they can KO you below 100% easily. The only viable way to avoid losing any stocks here on the hardest difficulty is to abuse the safety of ledges and plank until the opponents kill each other.
141	** In All-Star Mode, the Pokémon portion is considered to be the hardest part. You have to face up against all three of Pokémon Trainer's Pokémon along with Pikachu, Jigglypuff, and Lucario. It doesn't help that one of the stages that can be chosen is Spear Pillar, which can very easily screw you over with the hazards summoned by Dialga or Palkia.
142	* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Mario moving his Mario Tornado move from down-special to down-air and receiving [[VideoGame/SuperMarioSunshine F.L.U.D.D.]] as a new down-special was heavily criticized by many fans. While many competitive Mario mains like it for giving Mario further edgeguard options, other fans dislike it for being much more situational than the Tornado (it's effectively useless on stages without regular ledges, which is a lot of them), making Mario lose a recovery option, and giving him a move based on a one-time gimmick in canon. This was partially addressed in ''For 3DS[=/=]Wii U'', where Mario's MovesetClone from ''Melee'', Dr. Mario, retains his own special variant of the Tornado where Mario retains F.L.U.D.D. leaving Doc as somewhat of an option for Mario fans who prefer using the Tornado.
143	* UnintentionalUncannyValley: The darker colors and shades used for the characters sometimes make them look rather strange, particularly in regards to characters like Toon Link, where the detail in his character model contrasts the cartoony nature. This is not helped by the fact characters don't emote as well as they should (Dedede and the aforementioned Toon Link had only a few faces with little variety). Later games in the series would increase the color vibrancy and [[ArtEvolution updated]] character expressions to be more varied.
144	* VindicatedByHistory: ''Brawl'' has been getting this reception over the years. While the game is still criticized for its poor balance and poor gameplay mechanics, there are several fans that praised it for the vast amount of content in the game, as the Wii U version of ''Smash 4'' has been gaining criticism for its lack of content outside of multiplayer. ''Brawl'' would later be vindicated for its content even further after ''Ultimate'' appeared and brought back a lot of the content that ended up highlighting even more of what ''Smash 4'' lacked compared to both ''Brawl'' and ''Ultimate''. However, whether ''Brawl''[='=]s flaws and shortcomings made it worse compared to those found in ''Smash 4'' [[BrokenBase remains a hotly debated topic to this day]].
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