Line #30 YMMV/BringMeTheHorizon


1	* {{Applicability}}: ''Happy Song'' deliberately invokes this, the song has lyrics like "But if you sing along a little fucking louder to a happy song, you'll be just fine cause every now and again we get the feeling, and the great big void inside us opens up" but thanks to its NuMetal sound it's left ambiguous if it's a song about how music can help us forget about our problems and telling the listener to stay strong while facing them or if any [[SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids attempt of optimism]] in the song is supposed to be [[SarcasmMode sarcastic]].
2	* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: "Can You Feel My Heart?", "Shadow Moses", "Throne", "Follow You", "Kingslayer", "Ludens", "MANTRA", "medicine" and "Sleepwalking".
3	* BrokenBase:
4	** After NewSoundAlbum ''Suicide Season''.
5	** Each album put out breaks the base a bit more, but then came ''That's the Spirit''... [[ThisIsGonnaSuck Oh, dear god.]]
6	** Forget the reaction to ''That's the Spirit'', the base breaking somehow became [[SerialEscalation more intense]] with ''amo''.
7	*** Out of all the songs on ''amo'', the completely unexpected ''electropop trance'' number "nihilist blues" is perhaps the biggest cause of BrokenBase in discussions regarding the band's post-''That's the Spirit'' sound. Some parties say that it's one of the band's best songs ever; others mark it as the definitive point in which they stopped being good. Both parties agree that it's utterly unlike any song they've made before -- and that's before taking into consideration that parts of the song were lifted straight out of an Music/{{Evanescence}} song (a fact which the band themselves admitted). Needless to say, it is probably one of the most hit-or-miss songs in their discography.
8	* CommonKnowledge: Rumors have persisted that the reason why the band stopped playing their early deathcore material was due to Oli damaging his vocal chords. Truth is [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GZN5l6GiRY Oli can still do his earlier harsh vocals just fine.]] The reason behind the LighterAndSofter direction they took in the mid 2010's was purely creative and wanting to explore other styles of music.
9	* CriticalDissonance: They are praised highly by musicians and critics, but not even getting praise from ''Rob Halford'' (yes, the Metal God himself) seemed to stop them from being hated by at the very least half the metal fanbase.
10	* SugarWiki/CrowningMomentofHeartwarming: Although the video for "wonderful life" is inherently ridiculous, Oli and Jordan's segments are both just them spending quality time with their family.
11	* DeadHorseGenre: In an interview, Oli Sykes said that {{Deathcore}} has become one, hence the band's GenreShift to {{Metalcore}} for ''Suicide Season''. They would later cite this as the reason for them abandoning metalcore completely for a radio-friendly electronic rock sound.
12	* EnsembleDarkhorse: They've gradually became this for melodic metalcore.
13	%%* FauxSymbolism
14	* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: While certainly popular in the UK, their American fan base might be even bigger. And yes, they're big in Japan too. They're also quite popular in Australia, with their last 3 albums all debuting at #1 on the album charts there.
15	* GrowingTheBeard: Each and every album by them is better than the former. ''There Is a Hell... There Is a Heaven'' has been lauded as this by journalists. ''Sempiternal'' even more so. Of course, whether ''That's the Spirit'' continued the trend is still being debated.
16	* HarsherInHindsight: The song "Deathbeds" is a duet between Oli and his then fiancee Hannah Snowdon about how they would spend the rest of their lives together... except their marriage lasted a little over a year before Oli apparently caught Hannah cheating on him (she, in turn, accused him of repeatedly cheating on her, and abusing her as well).
17	* HilariousInHindsight: All the hate they received from metalheads for not having a "masculine" enough image sounds hilarious today since the band's association with the "Average Fan vs. Average Enjoyer" and the "Gigachad" memes, the latter in particular being instead the memetic epitome of masculinity.
18	* SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct: It took four albums, but Oli finally sang clean vocals on ''Sempiternal''. It was worth the wait.
19	* MemeticMutation:
20	** THIS IS SANDPIT TURTLE!!
21	** "I can't drown my demons, they know how to swim", which people take into ironic twists.
22	** Almost everything about the [[SongStyleShift surprise breakdown]] in "Ludens".
23	*** "You call this a connection?"
24	** The opening of "Can You Feel My Heart".[[labelnote:Explanation]]Around early 2021, the song went viral on [=TikTok=] for its use in clips of various shows and movies of people falling from major heights. But it would gain more notoriety when it was used for the "Average Fan vs. Average Enjoyer" memes. In a way, it has also been a theme (alongside "PHONKY TOWN" by Playaphonk) for the famous "Giga Chad" meme.[[/labelnote]]
25	* MisattributedSong: "The Fear That Gave Me Wings" by Glory of This.
26	* {{Narm}}:
27	** Whenever Oli's growls/screams/whichever would revert back to his regular voice on ''Count Your Blessings''.
28	** Oli's high-pitched and edited scream near the end of "Kingslayer".
29	* NeverLiveItDown: Oli actually makes a speech during the Wembley concert that he's not too happy playing either of their first albums anymore, but they then play "Pray for Plagues" anyway. They'll still play it once in a while, if the crowd nags them hard enough.
30	* NightmareFuel: [[NightmareFuel/BringMeTheHorizon Now has its own page]]
31	* OlderThanTheyThink: Contrary to popular belief, BMTH weren't the first metalcore act to start tinkering with ambient, electronica, and post-rock elements. Arguably they perfected the formula, though.
32	* PeripheryDemographic: The fangirls.
33	* QuestionableCasting: Pop singer Music/{{Lights}} guests on "Crucify Me" and "Don't Go".
34	** Rahzel of The Roots fame on "Heavy Metal." Even [[WebVideo/TheNeedleDrop Anthony Fantano]] was caught off guard with that feature.
35	** Averted with Music/{{Grimes}} with her feature on "nihilist blues" off of ''amo''.
36	** Also averted with Music/BabyMetal's feature on "Kingslayer."
37	* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Over the years, BMTH accomplished this for themselves by way of maturing and refining their sound, and as of now, they are considered a very mature and nuanced band with a strong sense of song craft. In fact BMTH is currently considered one of the most innovative and experimental {{metalcore}} bands in general as of ''Sempiternal'', and is probably one of the genre's biggest {{Ensemble Darkhorse}}s.
38	* TheScrappy: They were among one of the most hated bands in the metal scene, if not one of the most hated metal bands in history. One prominent reason behind their strong {{Hatedom}} wasn't rooted in their music itself, but from their image, since metalheads tend to hate metal-influenced bands with a [[PrettyBoy non-masculine image]], and their fanbase (as female listeners of heavy metal music have [[DoubleStandard a much harder time being taken seriously as fans]], and that goes doubly so if the members of that heavy metal band are the slightest bit attractive). However, this has lessened significantly over the years as the band's sound evolved.
39	* SignatureSong: Differs from each album.
40	** For ''Count Your Blessings'' it was "Pray For Plagues".
41	** For ''Suicide Season'' it was "Chelsea Smile".
42	** For ''There Is a Hell...'' it was "Blessed with a Curse" or "It Never Ends".
43	** For ''Sempiternal'' it was "Shadow Moses", "Can You Feel My Heart", or "Sleepwalking".
44	** For ''That's the Spirit'', it's "Throne".
45	** For ''amo'', it's "MANTRA" or "medicine".
46	** However it's possible that "Can You Feel My Heart" may have took this title for more casual listeners due to its sudden burst of popularity in [=TikTok=].
47	* SuspiciouslySimilarSong:
48	** The beat, melody and especially the chorus of "Throne" are very reminiscent of the song "Faint" by Music/LinkinPark.
49	** ''1x1'' also draw comparisons to "Papercut" by Linkin Park. So much that [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mtdz526JklY they can blend in together]].
50	** The verses of "nihilist blues" (especially the second verse sung by Grimes) sound eerily similar to "Never Go Back" by Music/{{Evanescence}} -- so much so that Evanescence themselves ended up filing a lawsuit against which the band ''willingly lost'', which is why both bands now share songwriting credits for that track in particular.
51	* {{Tearjerker}}: [[Tearjerker/BringMeTheHorizon Now has its own page]].
52	* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: According to many, many fans when they {{Genre Shift}}ed from deathcore to metalcore, and only more so when they began experimenting with NuMetal.
53	* WatchItForTheMeme: The MemeticBadass song "Can You Feel My Heart" [[NewbieBoom brought in a new wave of fans]] to the band. And truth to be told, many of them are only interested in listening the aforementioned song and nothing else.
54	* {{Wangst}}: A common criticism of their lyrics, which is ironic as they became less and less Wangsty after ''Suicide Season''.
55	* WinBackTheCrowd: After the polarizing receptions of ''That's the Spirit'' and ''amo'', they finally managed to reunite the fanbase with ''Post-Human: Survival Horror'', an EP that some may even consider their best work since ''Sempiternal'' or even their best work in general.

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