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* TheScrappy: They are currently one of the most hated bands in the metal scene, if not one of the most hated metal bands in history. It's very hard to find a metalhead trying to defend them, and even harder to find one who admits to being a fan. You'd think that as a band that so few metalheads claim to like, that they'd get less recognition. The reason behind their strong {{Hatedom}} does not seem to descend from their music itself, but from their image, since metalheads tend to hate metal-influenced bands with a [[PrettyBoy non-masculine image]], and their fanbase (as female listeners of heavy metal music have [[DoubleStandard a much harder time being taken seriously as fans]], and that goes doubly so if the members of that heavy metal band are the slightest bit attractive).
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* TheScrappy: They are currently were among one of the most hated bands in the metal scene, if not one of the most hated metal bands in history. It's very hard to find a metalhead trying to defend them, and even harder to find one who admits to being a fan. You'd think that as a band that so few metalheads claim to like, that they'd get less recognition. The One prominent reason behind their strong {{Hatedom}} does not seem to descend from wasn't rooted in their music itself, but from their image, since metalheads tend to hate metal-influenced bands with a [[PrettyBoy non-masculine image]], and their fanbase (as female listeners of heavy metal music have [[DoubleStandard a much harder time being taken seriously as fans]], and that goes doubly so if the members of that heavy metal band are the slightest bit attractive).attractive). However, this has lessened significantly over the years as the band's sound evolved.
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* {{Tearjerker}}: [[Tearjerker/BringMeTheHorizon Now has its own page]].
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* {{Tearjerker}}: [[Tearjerker/BringMeTheHorizon Now has its own page]].QuestionableCasting: Pop singer Music/{{Lights}} guests on "Crucify Me" and "Don't Go".
** Rahzel of The Roots fame on "Heavy Metal." Even [[WebVideo/TheNeedleDrop Anthony Fantano]] was caught off guard with that feature.
** Averted with Music/{{Grimes}} with her feature on "nihilist blues" off of ''amo''.
** Also averted with Music/BabyMetal's feature on "Kingslayer."
** Rahzel of The Roots fame on "Heavy Metal." Even [[WebVideo/TheNeedleDrop Anthony Fantano]] was caught off guard with that feature.
** Averted with Music/{{Grimes}} with her feature on "nihilist blues" off of ''amo''.
** Also averted with Music/BabyMetal's feature on "Kingslayer."
* {{Tearjerker}}: [[Tearjerker/BringMeTheHorizon Now has its own page]].
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* WTHCastingAgency: Pop singer Music/{{Lights}} guests on "Crucify Me" and "Don't Go".
** Rahzel of The Roots fame on "Heavy Metal." Even [[WebVideo/TheNeedleDrop Anthony Fantano]] was caught off guard with that feature.
** Averted with Music/{{Grimes}} with her feature on "nihilist blues" off of ''amo''.
** Also averted with Music/BabyMetal's feature on "Kingslayer."
** Rahzel of The Roots fame on "Heavy Metal." Even [[WebVideo/TheNeedleDrop Anthony Fantano]] was caught off guard with that feature.
** Averted with Music/{{Grimes}} with her feature on "nihilist blues" off of ''amo''.
** Also averted with Music/BabyMetal's feature on "Kingslayer."
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* HilariousInHindsight: All the hate they received from metalheads for not having a "masculine" enough image sounds hilarious today since the band's association with the "Average Fan vs. Average Enjoyer" and the "Gigachad" memes, the latter in particular being instead the [[RatedMForManly memetic epitome of masculinity]].
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* HilariousInHindsight: All the hate they received from metalheads for not having a "masculine" enough image sounds hilarious today since the band's association with the "Average Fan vs. Average Enjoyer" and the "Gigachad" memes, the latter in particular being instead the [[RatedMForManly memetic epitome of masculinity]].masculinity.
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* FaceOfTheBand: Frontman Oli Sykes. Lots of his female fans don't even listen to the band ([[PeripheryDemographic or heavy music at all]]). Also, it isn't terribly uncommon for an attempted conversation about the band to go a little like this: "Hey, uh, you ever heard of Bring Me The Horizon?" "Oh man, I hate/love ''that guy''!" That said, former guitarist Curtis Ward was pretty popular as well, probably thanks in part to being a bit of a LargeHam like Oli. He's also shared the Face role with Jona and Jordan.
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* WinBackTheCrowd: After the polarizing receptions of ''That's the Spirit'' and ''amo'', they finally managed to reunite the fanbase with ''Post-Human: Survival Horror'', an EP that some may even consider their best work since ''Sempiternal'' or even their best work in general.
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*** Out of all the songs on ''amo'', the completely unexpected ''electropop trance'' number "nihilist blues" is perhaps the biggest cause of BrokenBase in discussions regarding the band's post-''That's the Spirit'' sound. Some parties say that it's one of the band's best songs ever; others mark it as the definitive point in which they [[JumpingTheShark Jumped the Shark]]. Both parties agree that it's utterly unlike any song they've made before -- and that's before taking into consideration that parts of the song were lifted straight out of an Music/{{Evanescence}} song (a fact which the band themselves admitted). Needless to say, it is probably one of the most hit-or-miss songs in their discography.
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*** Out of all the songs on ''amo'', the completely unexpected ''electropop trance'' number "nihilist blues" is perhaps the biggest cause of BrokenBase in discussions regarding the band's post-''That's the Spirit'' sound. Some parties say that it's one of the band's best songs ever; others mark it as the definitive point in which they [[JumpingTheShark Jumped the Shark]].stopped being good. Both parties agree that it's utterly unlike any song they've made before -- and that's before taking into consideration that parts of the song were lifted straight out of an Music/{{Evanescence}} song (a fact which the band themselves admitted). Needless to say, it is probably one of the most hit-or-miss songs in their discography.
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* WatchItForTheMeme: The MemeticBadass song "Can You Feel My Heart" brought in a new wave of fans to the band. And truth to be told, many of them are only interested in listening the aforementioned song and nothing else.
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* WatchItForTheMeme: The MemeticBadass song "Can You Feel My Heart" [[NewbieBoom brought in a new wave of fans fans]] to the band. And truth to be told, many of them are only interested in listening the aforementioned song and nothing else.
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*** Out of all the songs on ''amo'', the completely unexpected ''electropop trance'' number "nihilist blues" is perhaps the biggest cause of BrokenBase in discussions regarding the band's post-''That's the Spirit'' sound. Some parties say that it's one of the band's best songs ever; others mark it as the definitive point in which they [[JumpingTheShark Jumped the Shark]]. Both parties agree that it's completely and utterly unlike any song they've made before -- and that's before taking into consideration that parts of the song were lifted straight out of an Music/{{Evanescence}} song (a fact which the band themselves admitted). Needless to say, it is probably one of the most hit-or-miss songs in their discography.
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*** Out of all the songs on ''amo'', the completely unexpected ''electropop trance'' number "nihilist blues" is perhaps the biggest cause of BrokenBase in discussions regarding the band's post-''That's the Spirit'' sound. Some parties say that it's one of the band's best songs ever; others mark it as the definitive point in which they [[JumpingTheShark Jumped the Shark]]. Both parties agree that it's completely and utterly unlike any song they've made before -- and that's before taking into consideration that parts of the song were lifted straight out of an Music/{{Evanescence}} song (a fact which the band themselves admitted). Needless to say, it is probably one of the most hit-or-miss songs in their discography.
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*** Out of all the songs on ''amo'', the completely unexpected ''electropop trance'' number "nihilist blues" is perhaps the biggest cause of BrokenBase in discussions regarding the band's new sound. Some parties say that it's one of the band's best songs ever; others mark it as the definitive point in which they [[JumpingTheShark Jumped the Shark]]. Both parties agree that it's completely and utterly unlike any song they've made before -- and that's before taking into consideration that parts of the song were lifted straight of an Music/{{Evanescence}} song (a fact which the band themselves admitted). Needless to say, it is probably one of the most hit-or-miss songs in their discography.
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*** Out of all the songs on ''amo'', the completely unexpected ''electropop trance'' number "nihilist blues" is perhaps the biggest cause of BrokenBase in discussions regarding the band's new post-''That's the Spirit'' sound. Some parties say that it's one of the band's best songs ever; others mark it as the definitive point in which they [[JumpingTheShark Jumped the Shark]]. Both parties agree that it's completely and utterly unlike any song they've made before -- and that's before taking into consideration that parts of the song were lifted straight out of an Music/{{Evanescence}} song (a fact which the band themselves admitted). Needless to say, it is probably one of the most hit-or-miss songs in their discography.
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if any of you are wondering, nihilist blues is one of my fav songs
*** Out of all the songs on ''amo'', the completely unexpected ''electropop trance'' number "nihilist blues" is perhaps the biggest cause of BrokenBase in discussions regarding the band's new sound. Some parties say that it's one of the band's best songs ever; others mark it as the definitive point in which they [[JumpingTheShark Jumped the Shark]]. Both parties agree that it's completely and utterly unlike any song they've made before -- and that's before taking into consideration that parts of the song were lifted straight of an Music/{{Evanescence}} song (a fact which the band themselves admitted). Needless to say, it is probably one of the most hit-or-miss songs in their discography.
** The verses of "nihilist blues" (especially the second verse sung by Grimes) sound eerily similar to "Never Go Back" by Music/{{Evanescence}} -- so much so that Evanescence themselves ended up filing a lawsuit against which the band ''willingly lost'', which is why both bands now share songwriting credits for that track in particular.
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** Rahzel of The Roots fame on "Heavy Metal." Even [[WebVideo/TheNeedleDrop Anthony Fantano]] was caught of guard with that feature.
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* WatchItForTheMeme: The MemeticBadass song "Can You Feel My Heart" brought in a new wave of fans to the band. And truth to be told, many of them are only interested in listening the aforementioned song and nothing else.
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* NoSuchThingAsBadPublicity
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** The opening of "Can You Feel My Heart".[[labelnote:Explanation]]around early 2021, the song went viral on [=TikTok=] for its use in clips of various shows and movies of people falling from major heights. But it would gain more notoriety when it was used for "Average Fan vs. Average Enjoyer" memes. In a way it has also been a theme (alongside "PHONKY TOWN" by Playaphonk) for the famous "Giga Chad" meme.[[/labelnote]]
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** The opening of "Can You Feel My Heart".[[labelnote:Explanation]]around [[labelnote:Explanation]]Around early 2021, the song went viral on [=TikTok=] for its use in clips of various shows and movies of people falling from major heights. But it would gain more notoriety when it was used for the "Average Fan vs. Average Enjoyer" memes. In a way way, it has also been a theme (alongside "PHONKY TOWN" by Playaphonk) for the famous "Giga Chad" meme.[[/labelnote]]
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* CommonKnowledge: Rumors have persisted that the reason why the band stopped playing their early deathcore material was due to Oli damaging his vocal chords. Truth is [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GZN5l6GiRY Oli can still do his earlier harsh vocals just fine.]] The reason behind the LighterAndSofter direction they took in the mid 2010's was purely creative and wanting to explore other styles of music.
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** The opening of "Can You Feel My Heart"[[labelnote:Explanation]]around early 2021, the song went viral on [=TikTok=] for its use in clips of various shows and movies of people falling from major heights and "Average Fan vs. Average Enjoyer" memes[[/labelnote]]
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** The opening of "Can You Feel My Heart"[[labelnote:Explanation]]around Heart".[[labelnote:Explanation]]around early 2021, the song went viral on [=TikTok=] for its use in clips of various shows and movies of people falling from major heights and heights. But it would gain more notoriety when it was used for "Average Fan vs. Average Enjoyer" memes[[/labelnote]]memes. In a way it has also been a theme (alongside "PHONKY TOWN" by Playaphonk) for the famous "Giga Chad" meme.[[/labelnote]]
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* FaceOfTheBand: Frontman Oli Sykes. Lots of his female fans don't even listen to the band ([[PeripheryDemographic or heavy music at all]]). Also, it isn't terribly uncommon for an attempted conversation about the band to go a little like this: "Hey, uh, you ever heard of Bring Me The Horizon?" "Oh man, I hate/love ''that guy''!" That said, former guitarist Curtis Ward was pretty popular as well, probably thanks in part to being a bit of a LargeHam like Oli.
** He's also shared the Face role with Jona and Jordan.
** He's also shared the Face role with Jona and Jordan.
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* FaceOfTheBand: Frontman Oli Sykes. Lots of his female fans don't even listen to the band ([[PeripheryDemographic or heavy music at all]]). Also, it isn't terribly uncommon for an attempted conversation about the band to go a little like this: "Hey, uh, you ever heard of Bring Me The Horizon?" "Oh man, I hate/love ''that guy''!" That said, former guitarist Curtis Ward was pretty popular as well, probably thanks in part to being a bit of a LargeHam like Oli.
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: While certainly popular in the UK, their American fan base might be even bigger. And yes, they're big in Japan too.
** They're also quite popular in Australia, with their last 3 albums all debuting at #1 on the album charts there.
** They're also quite popular in Australia, with their last 3 albums all debuting at #1 on the album charts there.
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: While certainly popular in the UK, their American fan base might be even bigger. And yes, they're big in Japan too.
**too. They're also quite popular in Australia, with their last 3 albums all debuting at #1 on the album charts there.
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* HilariousInHindsight: All the hate they received from metalheads for not having a "masculine" enough image sounds hilarious today since the band's association with the "Average Fan vs. Average Enjoyer" and the "Gigachad" memes, the latter in particular being instead the [[RatedMForManly memetic epitome of masculinity]].
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Over the years, BMTH accomplished this for themselves by way of maturing and refining their sound, and as of now, they are considered a very mature and nuanced band with a strong sense of song craft. In fact BMTH is currently considered one of the most innovative and experimental {{metalcore}} bands in general as of ''Sempiternal'', and is probably one of the genre's biggest {{Ensemble Darkhorse}}s.
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** RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Over the years, BMTH accomplished this for themselves by way of maturing and refining their sound, and as of now, they are considered a very mature and nuanced band with a strong sense of song craft. In fact BMTH is currently considered one of the most innovative and experimental {{metalcore}} bands in general as of ''Sempiternal'', and is probably one of the genre's biggest {{Ensemble Darkhorse}}s.
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** The high-pitched and edited scream near the end of "Kingslayer".
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* {{Narm}}: Whenever Oli's growls/screams/whichever would revert back to his regular voice on ''Count Your Blessings''.
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** Whenever Oli's growls/screams/whichever would revert back to his regular voice on ''Count YourBlessings''.Blessings''.
** The high-pitched and edited scream near the end of "Kingslayer".
** Whenever Oli's growls/screams/whichever would revert back to his regular voice on ''Count Your
** The high-pitched and edited scream near the end of "Kingslayer".
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* MemeticMutation: [[MondeGreen THIS IS SANDPIT TURTLE!!]]
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** THIS IS SANDPIT
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** However it's possible that "Can You Feel My Heart" may have took this title for more casual listeners due to its sudden burst of popularity in [=TikTok=].
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** The opening of "Can You Feel My Heart"[[labelnote:Explanation]]around early 2021, the song went viral on [=TikTok=] for its use in clips of various shows and movies of people falling from major heights and "Average Fan vs. Average Enjoyer" memes[[/labelnote]]
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** Averted with Music/{{Grimes}} with her feature on "nihilist blues" off of ''amo''.
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** Rahzel of The Roots fame on "Heavy Metal." Even [[WebVideo/TheNeedleDrop Anthony Fantano]] was caught of guard with that feature.
** Averted with Music/{{Grimes}} with her feature on "nihilist blues" off of''amo''.''amo''.
** Also averted with Music/BabyMetal's feature on "Kingslayer."
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* {{Applicability}}: ''Happy Song'' deliberately invokes this, the song has lyrics like "But if you sing along a little fucking louder to a happy song, you'll be just fine cause every now and again we get the feeling, and the great big void inside us opens up" but thanks to its NuMetal sound it's left ambiguous if it's a song about how music can help us forget about our problems and telling the listener to stay strong while facing them or if any [[SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids attempt of optimism]] in the song is supposed to be [[SarcasmMode sarcastic]].
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* FollowTheLeader: While the band themselves have been accused of this, they also have their share of imitators, being one of the first bands to bridge the gap between floppy-haired Metalcore and the Darker and Edgier Deathcore scene.
** Definitely started happening to them when ''Sempiternal'' came out. Suddenly a bunch of metalcore bands started mixing their sound with electronic music.
* FollowTheLeader: While the band themselves have been accused of this, they also have their share of imitators, being one of the first bands to bridge the gap between floppy-haired Metalcore and the Darker and Edgier Deathcore scene.
** Definitely started happening to them when ''Sempiternal'' came out. Suddenly a bunch of metalcore bands started mixing their sound with electronic music.
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* FollowTheLeader: While the band themselves have been accused of this, they also have their share of imitators, being one of the first bands to bridge the gap between floppy-haired Metalcore and the Darker and Edgier Deathcore scene.
** Definitely started happening to them when ''Sempiternal'' came out. Suddenly a bunch of metalcore bands started mixing their sound with electronic music.
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* [[SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct He Really Can Sing]]: It took four albums, but Oli finally sang clean vocals on ''Sempiternal''. It was worth the wait.
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* NewbieBoom: They are a case of this for metalcore, essentially providing the breakdown-loving EmoTeen crowd that would go on to fuel the entire second wave of metalcore (Especially in the UK, where metalcore never made a large impact to begin with).
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*** "You call this a connection?"
*** "You call this a connection?"
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* InternetBackdraft: Just the ''sheer'' mention to a metalhead will cause you to be accused of being a poseur. To the point where [[HateDom the Metal Archives]] can't even list them, or bands even ''similar'' to them. And then some.
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* SugarWiki/CrowningMomentofHeartwarming: Although the video for "wonderful life" is inherently ridiculous, Oli and Jordan's segments are both just them spending quality time with their family.
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* NeverLiveItDown: Oli actually makes a speech during the Wembley concert that he's not too happy playing either of their first albums anymore, but they then play "Pray for Plagues" anyway. They'll still play it once in a while, if the crowd nags them hard enough.
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* HeartwarmingMoments: Although the video for "Wonderful Life" is inherently supposed to be ridiculous, Oli and Jordan's segments are both just them spending quality time with their family.