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1	* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
2	** Is [[spoiler:Roy]] actually trying to avenge [[spoiler:his son]]? A lot of his victims have nothing to do with Pinehurst. Was he practicing? Is it possible he just decided to start killing and learned he liked it? Or is he actually possessed by Jason Voorhees like the novelization implies? There's evidence in the movie for both.
3	** Is Tommy [[spoiler:completely insane]] at the end or [[spoiler:possessed himself?]]
4	* BestKnownForTheFanservice: This movie is increasingly being remembered as "the one where Tina shows off her impressive chest with a sex scene and then lies on the ground naked as the camera gazes at her [[LegFocus thighs]] and ass for one frame". The fact that she's played by Debi Sue ''[[MeaningfulName Voorhees]]'' makes it all the better. The band ''Wolfe's Just Fine'' paid tribute to her nude scene with the music video titled [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG8iAtpavK4 A New Beginning]] itself, which Debi Sue Voorhees herself loved.
5	* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: The two fight scenes where Tommy beats up Eddie in the first scene and Junior in the second scene. Surprisingly for a person who spent the rest of his childhood in an insane asylum he knows some pretty decent MMA style moves. However there is the odd question: How and when did he learn them? Was there a JKD class in the asylum he was in? Did Dan Inosanto stop by during visiting hours, or is Tommy really that crazy?
6	* CaptainObviousReveal: [[spoiler:Roy being the killer isn't that much of a twist, since his very first scene shows him looking at the camera angrily after witnessing his son's chopped up body and the other ambulance making a [[DudeNotFunny rather tasteless and inappropriate]] joke in the process]]. The fact that just about every new potential red herring they introduced gets killed in an instant doesn't help either.
7	* ContestedSequel: While long regarded as one of the worst entries in the series, it has gotten more polarizing later to the point of arguably becoming this. Supporters tend to cite CriticalBacklash as being in effect, pointing out that without the twist the film is perfectly serviceable as a standard ''Friday the 13th film'' and appreciate its trashier feel and attempt to return to the mystery killer aspect of the first film. Detractors tend to loathe the film for its subpar makeup effects accompanying the heavily trimmed down violence, Tommy Jarvis being heavily OutOfFocus despite being the protagonist, an abundance of bland or unlikable victims and a twist ending that suffers from CaptainObviousReveal and FridgeLogic.
8	* CriticalBacklash: The film has been receiving a much warmer reception from fans over the years who appreciate the new inventive kills, the overall trashy, much more sleazy feel compared to the first 4 movies, and some even admitting that [[spoiler:the plot twist of Jason staying dead and a new character taking his place]] was a great way to expand on the series. Some viewers, particularly people new to the franchise, tend to be puzzled by the negative reception the film receives, noting that until the twist ending it plays out like a standard ''Friday the 13th'' film.
9	* EnsembleDarkhorse:
10	** Violet, who many fans wish had survived and is still considered one of the most memorable characters in the franchise for her RiotGrrrl aesthetic, her loveable JerkWithAHeartOfGold personality and of course her dancing abilities.
11	** Reggie is also quite well liked, often being seen as an aversion to the typical useless, annoying kid character in horror movies.
12	** Reggie's older brother Demon and his girlfriend Anita are also well liked, due to their cute interactions as a couple and their heartwarming bonding scene when Reggie comes to visit them.
13	** [[spoiler:Roy Burns]] for those who didn't hate the twist [[spoiler:of him being a JackTheRipoff]].
14	** Ethel and Junior for their hilarious banter.
15	* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: Seeing how much Demon loves his little brother Reggie. We're never told how he's earned that nickname or why Reggie's grandfather is so reluctant to let Reggie hang out with him, but Demon is so kind and sweet to the boy it's easy to see why Reggie wants to spend time with him.
16	* HilariousInHindsight:
17	** Shavar Ross, who plays Reggie (who becomes orphaned, you couldn't guess how!), went on to play an orphan called Reggie in the pilot episode of ''Series/MacGyver1985''.
18	** In the film, character Joey ends up being killed by psychotic Vic because he finds Joey annoying. Their actors actually became lifelong friends on the set.
19	* ItWasHisSled: [[spoiler: A copycat is doing the killings]].
20	* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler: Roy]] crossed it when he started his killing spree by going after people who weren't even involved with the Halfway House. Mrs. Voorhees at least limited her wrath to anybody that set foot on Crystal Lake and Jason followed her example most of the time. Making matters worse is that he never kills [[spoiler:Vic, the man responsible for his son's death in the first place.]]
21	* NarmCharm: Eddie's death is sorta split, while kinda Narmish for the concept, just seeing the sight of a belt tightly wrapped around a guys eyes so much as ''it starts to cave in'' as the guy's screaming, can't help but also be disturbed by how real it looks too.
22	* ReplacementScrappy: [[spoiler:Roy Burns]] for many fans of the series for [[spoiler: being a JackTheRipOff whose motivation doesn't make sense under scrutiny.]]
23	* {{Sequelitis}}: Even with the BrokenBase formed in recent years, this film is held to be among the worst of the ''Friday the 13th'' films for its subpar writing, production values and controversial twist ending. It isn't helped by the fact that it's the first movie in the series to be utterly slaughtered by the MPAA's cuts, while not the first entry in the series to suffer the wrath of the moral guardians, Part 5 began the trend of Friday the 13th films having kills which cut out the second they began, making it feel far less brutal and memorable than it's predecessors in terms of kills, despite having one of the highest body counts.
24	* SoBadItsGood: The film doesn't even pretend to have a meaningful narrative, as it kills off characters as fast as it introduces them.
25	* SophomoreSlump: Widely considered the weakest of the informal Tommy Jarvis trilogy, as it's sandwiched between the more well-liked ''Part IV'' and ''VI''.
26	* {{Squick}}:
27	** Pete goes to take a crap into the woods, presumably without toilet paper.
28	** Demon takes a dump in a public toilet, and also neglects to use toilet paper. In his defense, someone was screwing with the commode [[spoiler: who turned out to be his girlfriend and then a serial killer.]]
29	* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: Your mileage may vary but: Ethel and Junior seem like one for Jason and Mrs. Voorhees. [[spoiler: Roy himself is also a CompositeCharacter of Jason and Mrs. Voorhees.]]
30	* {{Tearjerker}}: [[spoiler: Joey's]] death is pretty sad when you really think about it. It's clear that he's not "all there" in the head but the fact that he's a completely innocent young man who's murdered just for offering someone a chocolate bar is just plain tragic, and the cast particularly Violet, Robin and Matthew take it understandably badly.
31	* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The ending twist opens a possibility of [[spoiler:Jason becoming a LegacyCharacter]]. This wasn't taken well by fans.
32	* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter:
33	** Tommy Jarvis: TheProtagonist of all people! This movie's supposed to be about his recovery after the last film, but instead he has few major scenes, has literally only 24 lines, and is OutOfFocus for most of the damn film, while we, the audience, are repeatedly introduced to numerous characters who mostly serve as CannonFodder for the killer.
34	** Along with Tommy, [[spoiler: Roy Burns]]. He's the villain of this film, but he's no Jason. Even though, [[SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute he isn't]] the "Man Behind The Mask", he could have been used better than he was in this film.
35	** Vic, for his short appearance, is an ACTUAL AxCrazy murderer. Why wasn't he in the rest of the movie?
36	** Many fans wish the spunky and fun Violet was the final girl instead of the rather generic if well-meaning Pam, or at the very least had far more screentime.
37	* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:
38	** For those who felt that [[spoiler:the copycat killer angle was a great way to continue the series after Jason's death]], many felt that there should've been at least ''one'' [[spoiler:red herring]] that doesn't get killed right away after being introduced to make it suspenseful.

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