Line #27 WMG/SilentHillOrigins


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3	[[folder:Travis Grady: Serial Killer... Or Not?]]
4	* It's not hard to think that Travis' unstable mother was being lied to and manipulated by the town's malevolence to believe her son would grow up to be a killer, and when he ends up in Silent Hill again as an adult, it tries to finish what it started by preying on his tragic past in the hopes of corrupting him, just like it does with Eddie and tries to do to James in ''VideoGame/SilentHill2'' (in both his and Travis' case, whether or not the town ultimately succeeds in this depends on which ending you get). Basically, he's not and never was a serial killer in the good ending, but the bad ending sees Travis be made into one, with the Butcher not being there to punish him a la Pyramid Head, but rather to serve as the town's way of suggesting that he should start working through all that pain and trauma he endured as a kid by paying it forward. As what happened to Angela in ''2'' demonstrates, Silent Hill is never, ''ever'' the good guy in the story; it uses a person's inner pain to break them down and ''destroy'' them, not to help them, and those who find redemption anyway do so because they didn't give in to the town's evil influence.
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7	[[folder:Travis from ''Origins'' is related to Travis Touchdown]]
8	* From ''VideoGame/NoMoreHeroes'', supported by the fact that Travis can get a luchador costume.
9	** Since their first name is thus their family name, which is (among others) a Japanese naming convention, along with the Mexican masked wrestler costume, does that mean he's [[Manga/{{Bleach}} an arrancar]]? It might account for the weirdness increasing thanks to his spirit power, and why he was attracted to such a "spiritual" place.
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12	[[folder:Alternately, Travis from ''Origins'' is related to Gordon Freeman]]
13	Travis father looks like he could be [[VideoGame/HalfLife Gordon Freeman]]'s long lost twin brother or something, and Travis himself is a badly done attempt at TheStoic (except, like in the case of [[VideoGame/SilentHill4 Henry]], the animators missed the mark and ended up with DullSurprise), and all three men have severe underlying psychological problems that very well might be running int he family. (If I recall correctly, one of the weapons you can pick up in ''Origins'' is a crowbar, or at least a wrench...)
14	* Additionally, during the cutscene before the final boss, Kaufman looks like he may be the long lost twin brother of the "G-Man". Coincidence?
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17	[[folder: Pyramid Head is TheButcher's kid/fanboy/apprentice.]]
18	The "kid" theory is at least a popular meme on deviantart. I could also see [=PH=] as an AscendedFanboy / JackTheRipoff who liked the Butcher's methods, but thought the headgear was lame, so he did some research and decided to base his costume on the executioner outfit instead. Or, alternately, [=PH=] studied under the Butcher (like how Amanda studied under Jigsaw).
19	* I've always thought of Pyramid Head and The Butcher as being different manifestations of the same entity, actually, along with Valtiel.
20	** I believe Pyramid Head to be a creation of Silent Hill based off of the Butcher, which was created by the town by pulling it from Travis Grady, and which the town is thus unable to create without Travis present. Pyramid Head is, in fact, stronger than the Butcher, as Pyramid Head is unkillable, but the Butcher is not.
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23	[[folder:In ''Origins'', the monsters killed by Travis aren't monsters.]]
24	The idea that the monsters the heroes see throughout the games aren't monsters, or are connected to the real world in some fashion, goes all the way back to the original game, with the hidden audio clip of a poor dog barking, then meeting a violent end (implying that was the real fate of the 'dog monsters' Henry faced.) Considered in this light, 'The Butcher' ending makes a lot more sense -- after all, you ''earn'' it in the first place by slaughtering lots of monsters, and Travis hears voices of confused people screaming in agony as they're cut down... He never leaves Silent Hill because he's been arrested for mass murder. And this puts him solidly in the cult's hands, with all the nastiness that implies... They've got plenty of time and ways to ''punish'' him for setting their plans back.
25	* This is backed up in Silent Hill 3, when Vincent off-handedly remarks to Heather: "Monsters? They look like monsters to you?"
26	** That is referring to the Missionary and the Scrapers, who are actually cult hitmen dressed as monsters or altered by the power of their god.
27	* It doesn't help that if you come back to the place where you killed your first monster in 2, it will be surrounded by police tape. What exactly did you bludgeon to death with a loose board, James?
28	** Except they ''are'' monsters. That is, unless we assume that [[VideoGame/SilentHill4 Walter]] has MindControl powers, is able to teleport people, able to somehow be in two places at once where one of said instances is dead...yeah, Occam's Razor says that they ''are'' actually monsters.
29	*** You're trying to apply OCCAMS RAZOR to Silent Hill? Jesus christ...
30	*** Well, yeah; the idea that your PC is a psychotic mass-murderer and all the "monsters" are really innocent people requires one to both drastically overthink ''and'' critically underthink things at the same time, just for the sake of cheap shock value.
31	*** As the below comment suggests, it also has precedent. Eddie pretty clearly wasn't seeing icky creatures coming after him...
32	*** ... But Walter ''does'' have MindControl powers, the ability to teleport people and is able to be two places at once where one of said instances is dead. Or at least Room 302 can teleport people, but he still canonically has mind control powers.
33	*** Ties in with the Theory of Henry being the Murderer in Silent Hill 4 as well, considering that there is no 'Walter', just Henry's twisted point of view as an UnreliableNarrator.
34	*** When you're in the hospital and solve the mannequin riddle by putting in the plastic parts, you come back to the room and find a body with no eyes -you took the plastic eyes to open another door- I don't know how many commented on this before, but it is probably the moment that made me feel more uncomfortable of the whole series -not the creepiest but it made me doubt what I was doing and Vincent's voice came to me directly-,
35	** This has always been an underlining mindscrew in a lot of the Silent Hill games. Sometimes the monsters are totally out of place and weird, but other times the monsters are twisted versions of individuals or animals that could really exist in the area your character is in, leaving you to wonder if perhaps your character isn't surrounded by monsters but is instead on a killing spree after going crazy. (Those child sized monsters in the school...) However, rather then being anything your character worries about this is generally more of a player mindscrew, other then the time it is brought up to Heather in Silent Hill 3.
36	** I actually got the impression that Vincent's "They look like monsters to you?" remark was actually the somewhat more benign but still unsettling implication that the cultists actually saw the "monsters" of Silent Hill as more angelic or divine beings, since they're ostensibly servants of the cult's god and therefore, see them in a better light.
37	** I would hope that whatever law enforcement is on hand in Silent Hill would do a better job of stopping all these mass murderers before their kill counts hit the third digit.
38	*** If they're in the cult's pocket, they'd have to make sure the killings aren't part of one of their rituals first.
39	*** What everyone seems to have forgotten is that Vincent's "they look like monsters" comment was a joke by Vincent to freak out Heather. He even says so.
40	*** In context it seems like Vincent is backpedaling because he wasn't expecting Heather to freak out by what he said. The fact that he said "They look like monsters to you?" in a mildly bemused tone and ostensibly ''didn't'' expect such a horrified reaction suggests that they aren't innocent humans, but also not something Vincent, as a prominent member of the cult, sees as evil or a threat.
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43	[[folder:The Butcher and Valtiel both dress up as Pyramid head to screw with the player characters.]]
44	Probably MindScrew, but [[RuleThirtyFour other possibilities]] exist. Valtiel started it, then The Butcher [[BecomingThemask became The Mask]] after copying it to mess with the [=PCs=] and see the wird through Pyramid Head's [[strike:eyes]]mask.
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47	[[folder:Travis has the same kind of powers as Alessa]]
48	Travis is unique among ''Silent Hill'' protagonists in that '''he''' can enter the Otherworld voluntarily. Everybody else gets dragged in. So why is he able to when nobody else is? It's likely a manifestation of ''his'' power. A book in the school in ''Silent Hill 1'' mentions that while such manifestations are not at all common, and usually happen around adolescent females when they do occur, it doesn't say that they are '''exclusive''' to them. This would also provide an explanation as to why Alessa used Travis against the cult. Having similar powers, albeit not as strongly as her, would allow him to act in her stead, including doing things which shouldn't have been possible.
49	* His family had a thing with mirrors, because Travis' mother claimed to hear from a being in a mirror. Very possibly, they are related to the founders of the town.
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52	[[folder: Travis is related to Alessa]]
53	Building upon the above folder, there is also the matter of Travis' mother, who is implied at one point to have had the same power to enter the Otherworld, long before Alessa was even born. If that is true then Travis' ability is likely an inherited one. And if it is something he could inherit then it is something Alessa might have inherited as well. As for why Dahlia didn't show any overt signs of the power herself, I can't be sure. It's possible though that the power can skip generations. It's also likely that until Alessa was born nobody in Silent Hill had a strong enough power to become the cult's desired Mother of God.
54	** This may be inadvertently [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] by the backstory with Travis's mother considering Travis a "demon". [[spoiler: She even attempted to end Travis's life (and her own), but for different reasons than The Cult intended for Alessa's case.]]
55	** Assuming OP means that Travis may be Alessa's father, some more evidence is the fact that Dahlia also knows his name. He even asks her how she knows it...
56	** Then there's incriminating lines in the game's opening song, O.R.T., which is from Alessa's point of view:
57	---> ''Is it lonely where you, in there, Dad? Does the darkness know your name... does Mom?'' (Considering the above, yes, Mom may very well know Dad's name.)
58	---> ''She said, "Her blood turns to ash," laughing... Dad, do you know what you've done this time, to me?''
59	---> ''Did you have that dream again? Release. Breathe. "You're receiving what you sent," said she.''
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62	[[folder: Travis from Origins is really Laurie Driver from the Viz.]]
63	Think about it, both are truckers,in the bad ending, it is revealed he was/is a serial killer of women, just like Driver. so, i figure he cut his hair short, dyed it, lost a few pounds and sorted out his bad teeth to avoid the police. think about it...[[/folder]]
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