Line #17 WMG/FreddyVsJason


1	[[WMG: Freddy and Jason live on]]
2	* Jason decided to return to camp crystal lake and [[Film/FridayThe13th2009 started all over]], but decided to keep Freddy's head. Freddy was able to find a new head which was less ugly, but had worse burns and a new arm. Freddy built a new glove, since his old one was at the bottom of the lake, which was slightly different and he went [[Film/ANightmareOnElmStreet2010 right back to Elm Street]]
3	** Take note - when Freddy and Jason were fighting in the camp, it wasn't the old, trashed one - it was being rebuilt. Again. You know, because Jason had been dead for a while and people are idiots. That was one helluva setup for more Camp Crystal Lake slaughter.
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5	[[WMG: Jason's in a coma at the bottom of the lake and Freddy's stuck in his mind]]
6	* Jason can come back for Jason X, but Freddy was unpleasantly surprised to find that nobody alive remembered him and Jason doesn't sleep much. [[AndIMustScream Freddy's in a very nasty situation...]]
7	** This is a good meta ''and'' in-universe excuse for there not being any Robert-based Freddy movies made after this. Plus, this inadvertently achieves what Jason (and the teenagers who "rooted" for him) set out to do: stop Freddy permanently. What better way to stop the unkillable dream demon than to essentially [[FateWorseThanDeath lock him up in the mind of the one person who never sleeps]]? ''Also'', it's ironic; in trying to find a way to bring himself back, Freddy [[HoistbyHisOwnPetard ended up causing his own "demise"]] (or the closest he'll get to it, since he can't really die).
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9	[[WMG: The end credits were part of the film's story.]]
10	* It was a long POV shot from Freddy's perspective. The background was the floor of Jason's house, the dripping blood came from Freddy's severed head as Jason carried it around looking for a place to put it. The blood-loss caused Freddy to hallucinate the credits and the song was Freddy singing to Jason [[ManipulativeBastard to try to convince him]] not to use his head as a flower pot.
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12	[[WMG: This is the true end for Freddy]]
13	* At the end of the movie Jason stuck Freddy's head on his knick-knack shelf. Freddy is thus stuck in limbo; he's not dead so he can't re-enter the dream state, but he's just a severed head so he can't escape Jason's cabin either. He's doomed to sit up there next to Jason's bobble-heads until the end of time.
14	** Whatever the final scene of [=FvsJ=] suggests, Freddy will be going back to Springwood to slaughter more kids. He succeeded in spreading the fear he'd wished to when Will & Mark told the Legend of Krueger at Springwood High so there are tons and tons of high schoolers who know Freddy now. Freddy may have lost the battle, but he won the war. Alternatively it can be observed that Springwood can simply replace its' supply of Hypnocil and people aren't afraid of Freddy but the man in the hockey mask who attacked the cornfield rave. The only 2 people even aware of Freddy's return are the hero and heroine who obviously aren't scared of him.
15	** One way or another, you're right about it being the end of [that incarnation of] Freddy. When a (gratingly unnecessary) remake starts a new series in Hollywood, the old series is automatically kaput. So if there are any more sequels they will be to the NOES and F13 remakes.
16	** Wasn't there a comic sequel called Freddy vs Jason vs Ash that continued the story?
17	*** The comic and film are not canon to each other.
18	*** The movie is, obviously, canon to the comic. And the comic was written with people who helped produce the movie, and the script for the comic was the script for the planned sequel, so...
19	*** Just because the movie is canon to the comics doesn't mean the comics are canon to the movies. There is nothing to suggest that anything but the movies are canon. Comics, novels, etc. exist in their own alternate universe and have never been acknowledged in any capacity. Essentially, they're "what if's".
20	** The 6th Elm Street film also theoretically takes place in the future ("Ten years from now"), like Jason X. If that hasn't happened yet, it would explain why Springwood is a more-or-less normal town in this film, but a nearly empty ghost town with no children and the remaining adults completely insane in Freddy's Dead. No way the town could have been repopulated and Freddy's existence suppressed so well. Even if you assume that the time given in the beginning was ten years from the release of that film (1991), then since this film takes place in 2003 they would have had to fix the town in a mere two years.
21	*** Then maybe Freddy succeeded in this film after all. He will indeed get credit for all the killing Jason did, and that is what will give him enough power to bring about the events of ''Freddy's Dead''.
22	*** The promotional materials state that this film takes place exactly 4 years after ''Freddy's Dead''. The writers just chose to ignore the "10 Years From Now " thing just be pragmatic.
23	*** Clips from ''Freddy's Dead'' are seen in the opening prologue to [=FvJ=], showing that those events have already happened by the time this movie's events occur.
24	** This assumes that the final scene in the movie is set in the real world, and not in the dream world. Freddy's body can be killed in the real world much like a regular human's can, and can only reappear in the dream world. Obviously, he was decapitated in the real world and that would effectively kill him, so that leaves the final scene to be another one of Jason's dreams. Freddy is "alive" again in the dream world and is just messing with Jason's expectation that his head will act as a decapitated head normally does. Freddy isn't in limbo at all, and will continue slaughtering people.
25	[[WMG: The whole movie is part of a conspiracy]]
26	* On the part of Pinhead, the lead Cenobite. Even if he doesn't live in hell proper, it's not outside the realm of possibility that he can freely travel to dimensions that aren't Earth. Over the course of the movies, he's occasionally succumbed to the urge to hurt people just for the sake of it. Tricking people into opening the box is too much work, but feeding a predictable spirit like Freddy the idea of using Jason wouldn't be any trouble at all. He gets to inflict a little more of the suffering that isn't technically in his job description, and then watch two creatures that he more than likely loathed beat the stuffing out of each other.
27	** Pinhead WAS in fact supposed to have a [[WhatCouldHaveBeen cameo]] in this movie.
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29	[[WMG: The movie is set in [[NextSundayAD 2004 or 2005.]]]]
30	* If we assume that the first movie of "A Nightmare on Elm Street" is set in 1984, then the second film is set in 1989, the third is set in 1990, the fourth and fifth are set in 1990 or 1991, "The final Nightmare" is set in 2000 or 2001. And this film is set four years later of "The Final Nightmare".
31	** A Nightmare on Elm Street takes place in 1981, not 1984. The tombstones of Kristen and Kincaid in Nightmare 4 show their death date as 1988. Nightmare 5 opens with the high schoolers graduating and a "Class of '89" banner. Working backwards from those dates places the events of Nightmare 1 in 1981. Freddy vs. Jason features a "Coming in 2004" sign on the construction at Crystal Lake, setting it in 2003. According to the "four years" thing, Freddy's Dead would then take place in 1999.
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33	[[WMG: Lori's father is Dr. Neil Gordon from ''[[Film/ANightmareOnElmStreet3DreamWarriors Dream Warriors]]'']]
34	* He's a doctor at Westin Hills prescribing Hypnocil with the same hairstyle and mannerisms. After Nancy died in Dream Warriors, he married, had a daughter, and devoted his life to stopping Freddy. He just changed his name along the way.
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36	[[WMG: Lori is the reincarnation of Freddy's wife, Loretta]]
37	* Lori is short for Loretta.
38	** This could explain why Freddy attempted to rape Lori in a rather elaborate fashion. Perhaps Freddy's power allowed him to realize she was Loretta reincarnated and he decided to "catch up" with his former wife.
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40	[[WMG: Deputy Stubbs moved to Springwood from Crystal Lake, New Jersey.]]
41	* It would explain how he knows so much about Jason, and what a Jason copycat killer might be like, considering [[Film/FridayThe13thPartVANewBeginning it happened before]].
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43	[[WMG: That weird worm-hookah bit with the Jason Mewes lookalike...]]
44	... is because Freddy can access drug trips just like he can dreams. But his ability to affect the real world is not as strong in that case.
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46	[[WMG: Nancy and some of Freddy's other victims are still alive here.]]
47	* The movie is implied to have a BroadStrokes continuity. The way Freddy's narration is framed implies that it was Nancy saying she didn't believe in him which was one of the final straws in Springwood erasing his memory (although it could be in that order for dramatic effect). This could be seen as implying the existence of a slightly different timeline where more of Freddy's victims survived their encounters with him or were never attacked in the first place before Springwood temporarily banished him.
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49	[[WMG: ''Freddy vs Jason'' actually takes place before ''Jason Goes to Hell'']]
50	Everyone seems to assume, mainly due to the ending of part 9 and some lines in the Vs movie, that Freddy VS Jason must take place after Jason Goes to Hell. But it actually kind of makes more sense to assume it comes before. For one thing, Steve in Part 9 mentions that the cabins at camp crystal lake were torn down two years prior, yet in Freddy vs Jason we see the whole camp still intact (was it torn down because of the huge explosion that devistated it in VS?) Assuming that Part 9 takes place after VS could also explain how Jason was revived after part 8 (Freddy ressurected him) and how he got from New York back to Crystal Lake (Freddy brought him to Springwood, and then the kids took him the rest of the way back). It might also explain how Jason suddenly developed body jumping abilities, the supernatural ressurection by Freddy ended up giving him some unexpected new powers.

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