Line #152 WMG/Ben102016


1	[[WMG: Kevin's aliens are genetic hybrids between Ben's 10 main aliens and other aliens Ben has turned into in other continuities]]
2	* Bashmouth = Blitzwolfer + Rath
3	* Dark Matter = Grey Matter + Jury Rigg
4	* Rush = [=XLR8=] + Crashhopper
5	* Bootleg = Upgrade + Echo Echo
6	* Hot Shot = Heatblast + Swampfire
7	* Skunkmoth = Stinkfly + Eatle
8	[[WMG: The reboot takes place in one of the alternate dimensions from the main series]]
9	The concept of alternate universes isn't new to the Ben 10 franchises at all. It was introduced with the WesternAnimation/GeneratorRex crossover and expanded upon in WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse. Many of these alternate dimensions have their own Ben, so it's possible that this is yet another parallel universe tangent to that of Ben Prime.
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11	[[WMG: Alternatively, it's an alteration of the main series.]]
12	In Omniverse, the Celestialsapiens mention their doings being responsible for several changes throughout the universe, such as changes in [[ArtShift looks]] and [[TheOtherDarrin voices]] over the franchise. What if someone screwed with the old universe to make this one? Which means...
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14	[[WMG: Instead of a re-reboot, the universe will be 'put back' later on.]]
15	When Cartoon Network gets over its Teen Titans Go obsession, a season finale will have a person or thing remake the universe, similar to the last time such a thing happened (cue flashbacks to the cast with older designs hit by a WorldWreckingWave and when it clears, the world looks like this one.)
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17	[[WMG: This will be the FranchiseKiller for Franchise/{{Ben 10}}.]]
18	This reboot has a 2.5/10 rating on Website/IMDb and is considered to have less quality than the [[WesternAnimation/{{Ben10}} original series]] it's based on.
19	* I doubt it. Regardless of the franchise's reputation in the United States, it's incredibly popular overseas with franchise merchandise currently raking in over 4 billion dollars.
20	* Ben 10, like {{Franchise/Transformers}}, has had enough people make this prediction that the wiki has its own DarthWiki/RuinedForever page.
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22	[[WMG: There will be flashback episodes to ben getting the Omnitrix and meeting various foes]]
23	* Know that the series has got its footing after Omni-tricked, they can do proper introduction episodes for Animo, Zombozo and other characters brought out from nowhere and show how this Ben got his Omnitrix
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25	[[WMG: Vulkanus will be the new third member of the Bounty Hunters]]
26	It makes too much sense. Now that Tetrax has defected and double-crossed the other two, it would be all but necessary for someone like Vulkanus to step in, since he and Sixsix frequently partnered up in the original series.)
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28	[[WMG: An episode will feature this version of Ben meeting the Ben from ''Alien Force'', ''Ultimate Alien'', or ''Omniverse''.]]
29	Vilgax will make an appearance as well, prompting Teen!Ben to get upset over the fact that [[ActorAllusion they sound similar.]] Or Reboot!Ben will panic over the fact that he's going to sound like Vilgax in the future. Either one works.
30	** Or Reboot!Ben will mistake Original!Ben For Vilgax at first
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32	[[WMG: This series will be a mix of the original, and sequel series]]
33	They already introduced characters from later series as younger versions of themselves, not to mention that overflow, an Expy of Waterhazard with the same species, is part of the original ten aliens. We could start seeing younger versions of the Plumbers' kids and or rook. and maybe cameos of other Man of Action series like Rex
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35	[[WMG: Next season will take place after Summer Vacation]]
36	Ben said "best summer ever" at the end of season 1, and continuing the series into elementary school will be a big difference from the original show.
37	* Jossed.
38	* This show appears to be taking place in some kind of neverending summer.
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40	[[WMG: In a future episode, Ben will turn into [[spoiler: [[Film/{{Ben10RaceAgainstTime}} Eon]].]] ]]
41	We already got [[spoiler: Gax during ''Omni-tricked''.]] Maybe it was meant to be the start of a Main/{{Running Gag}} involving Ben turning into [[spoiler: his worst enemies' alien species.]]
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43	[[WMG: For an episode, the show will feature art-styles from the previous series ]]
44	Steam Smythe will use an artifact to make everything look retro and steampunk. Ben will try to stop him, causing the item to malfunction and make the world look like it came out of the Original Series. The rest of the episode will have the world continuously shifting between all the different art-styles we've seen before, including CGI and live-action.
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46	Ben will comment that it might look cool how he, Gwen and everything else looks like, but it's old and some other people enjoy something new, shutting up Steam Smythe at his constant blabbering of hating the modern world.
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48	[[WMG: There will be a crossover with ''[[WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse Steven Universe]]'']]
49	The reboot seems light-hearted enough for that. Plus, we've already seen the characters in several episodes having the same starry-eyed look Steven has.
50	* Confirmed (kinda). There's an upcoming crossover episode between [[WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse Steven Universe]], [[WesternAnimation/OKKOLetsBeHeroes OK K.O.! Let's Be Heroes]], this show and [[WesternAnimation/TeenTitansGo Teen Titans Go!]].
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52	[[WMG: Some more villains from the previous series will be reintroduced.]]
53	Either Kevin 11 or Albedo as an evil counterpart to Ben, The Vreedle Brothers because they are idiots suited to the reboot.
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55	[[WMG: In a new episode, Ben will turn into Rath.]]
56	He will start by yelling "Lemme tell ya somethin', Vilgax."
57	* And getting John [=DiMaggion=] to voice him is not optional.
58	** Rath did appear in "Rath Of Con", but he's voiced by Creator/DeeBradleyBaker.
59	[[WMG: Potential [[UnexpectedCharacter Unexpected Characters]]]]
60	* Professor Paradox
61	** Voiced by either Creator/ChristopherEccleston, Creator/DavidTennant, Creator/MattSmith, or Creator/PeterCapaldi.
62	* Malware
63	* Psyphon
64	* Blukic & Driba
65	* Ignacius Baumann
66	* Argit
67	* Albedo
68	* Verdona
69	* Feedback
70	* A younger version of Julie (who will become Ben's love interest as a way of apologizing to the people angry over the clumsy ShipSinking they were subjected to in ''Omniverse'')
71	* A younger version of Rook (who still has his bi'nthak and therefore still hasn't been named yet)
72	** In Ben's daydream in "Drive You Crazy", there's a blue racer whose outfit matches Rook's face lines and Proto-Armor. Maybe foreshadowing his appearance in a future episode?
73	* For something ''really'' unexpected, classic continuity Ben Tennyson himself, via cross-time shenanigans. Bonus points if he even [[LampshadeHanging lampshades]] his own unexpectedness.
74	** Bonus points if Reboot!Ben acknowledges the events of "Ben Again and Again" to compare how crazy the situation is with Classic!Ben, as well as showing he already dealt with reality-altering messes before.
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76	[[WMG: Todd and Sally will get [[DayInTheLimelight their own episode]]]]
77	And probably end with at least one of them realizing the connection between their misfortunes.
78	* The episode ''"Hole in 10"'' already had Sally complaining to an agreeing Todd that every time Ben shows up, "danger follows, then it's another three doctors appointments!". So they at least know that Ben is linked to the things ruining their dates. We still have yet to see them with their own episode though.
79	* Unless they think that Diamondhead and Ben are two completely different characters.
80	** At this point in the series (unless it happened off-screen), Diamondhead appeared in the same place as them only once during ''"Ben 24hrs"'', and it was to fix Adrenaland after their date was ruined, yet Sally still stated that he was responsible for their problems at the minigolf course. It's more likely they know Ben and his aliens are the same person, but [[UnusuallyUninterestingSight simply brush it off like everyone in the reboot does]].
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82	[[WMG: Maurice is meant to be an Expy of [[WesternAnimation/KimPossible Dr. Drakken.]]]]
83	Bumbling mad scientist? Check. Voiced by Creator/JohnDiMaggio? Check. Comes up with bizarre schemes? Check.
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85	[[WMG: WesternAnimation/GeneratorRex will have another crossover with this series]]
86	It would be an alternate universe to the main series, but it will be the 'sequel' to WesternAnimation/Ben10GeneratorRexHeroesUnited.
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88	[[WMG: The Cascan (Overflow's species) are actually a subspecies of Orishan (Water Hazard's species)]]
89	It just makes too much sense.
90	* There's a slight issue with that, they come from different planets who are polar opposites: Cascareau is a planet full of water while Kiusana is mostly a desert planet, and Cascareau is full of pirates, while Kiusana mostly has village shamans and rockstars. Them being subspecies is possible but kinda hard to envision with that kind of info.
91	* Maybe the Cascan are native to Kiusana but migrated en mass to Cascareau after [[FanficFuel some big war between the two races over who was superior]]?
92	[[WMG: Alternatively, the Cascans are actually [[OurDragonsAreDifferent Chinese dragon aliens]] with robotic armors]]
93	Just like NRG in the classic continuity.
94	* Dragons like to keep treasures, so the 'pirate' thing works.
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96	[[WMG:[[spoiler: Glitch is going to help Ben unlock more aliens ]] ]]
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98	[[WMG: Should Professor Paradox appear, he'll essentially be the same Paradox we knew from the previous shows rather than an alternate reboot counterpart.]]
99	Given he is detached from time itself, it would make sense he is immune from the effects of a series reboot.
100	[[WMG:[[spoiler: Glitch will make the aliens come out of the Omnitrix]] ]]
101	[[spoiler: Knowing that he can manipulate the Omnitrix, maybe he can make them come out using some of Ben’s DNA.]]
102	[[WMG: The show is actually a cartoon made ''inside'' the original continuity.]]
103	And as a TakeThatUs moment, the finale will end with the real Ben, along with his friends mocking the inaccurate portrayal of themselves.
104	* Doubt so, the franchise always made in-universe cartoons about Ben's aliens over-the-top and blatantly parodies for Ben to get offended over and to show how his fans will believe anything. Considering the amount of actual effort put into the reboot unlike "Super Alien Hero Buddy Adventures" or OV's Tokusatsu-style show about Ben, this would need to be a very elaborate ShowWithinAShow for the original continuity, if not one of the alternate universes Omniverse talks about.
105	** I disagree, "Super Alien Hero Buddy Adventures" was loosely based on the sightings of Ben in Alien Form, while the other show was based more on the legend of Ben passed by word of mouth across the galaxy, it's possible this could be a cartoon made on earth based on Ben, given that he's a celebrity and superhero, with a combination of research failure and embellishment causing the discrepancies between the reboot and "reality".
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107	[[WMG: Azmuth was the one to hire Sixsix, Kraab and Tetrax to keep ''Vil'' from forming Vilgax again.]]
108	The beeping of the Omnitrix in "Omni-tricked" was an alarm to alert Azmuth if Vil was coming closer to the device to take back his powers. So he paid the bounty hunters to prevent it, or stop the conqueror if they were too late. It would be the only reason why, despite the three of them being amoral mercenaries, they cared about it.
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110	[[WMG: Vilgax helped Azmuth build the Omnitrix.]]
111	It's why he knows so much about it, and how Azmuth was able to strip Vilgax of his powers.
112	* Surprisingly enough, confirmed!
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114	[[WMG: Forever Knight is the dentist from "Screamcatcher" that helped Ben with his cavity.]]
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116	They have the same facial shape, same VA and are the only two characters to share those. It also helps that the dentist is an adventurer with many artifacts in his cabinet, he could've gotten some of those using his technology and armor.
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118	(This also means that Forever Knight has a Ph.D. in dentistry with the dental insurance included for any of his non-robotic employees).
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120	[[WMG: Julie, Ship and/or Bezel will come back]]
121	Julie will be Ben's love interest and sidekick rather than girlfriend, since he's still a kid. Bezel will also give Ship to Julie and give Upgrade back to Ben.
122	* If so, then it's possible Julie bonds with Ben over Glitch as well, with Glitch bonding with Ship as he would've inherited of Ben's love of pets.
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124	[[WMG: What the other aliens would have in their [[SuperMode Omni-Enhanced/Omni-Kix/Omni-Naut]] forms]]
125	Well, since all aliens from the Classic Continuity (every other show) are confirmed to exist in the Reboot Continuity's Omnitrix...
126	* [[{{Technopath}} Upgrade]]:
127	** Omni-Enhanced: Purple portions of body turn electric blue, and black portions become rock. Gains the ability to control electricity and make machines come to life as extensions of his own body.
128	** Omni-Kix: Omni-Kix armour becomes a separate robotic body who acts alongside Upgrade, who can merge with it to enhance its abilities tenfold.
129	** Omni-Naut:
130	* [[SuperIntelligence Grey Matter]]:
131	** Omni-Kix: Gets into a similar HumongousMecha to his Omni-Enhanced form, but this time the mech is more humanoid and more akin to his standard form. Possesses enhanced strength and speed, and is able to [[IncredibleShrinkingMan make the mech shrink down to anywhere between human-size and his basic form's size]].
132	** Omni-Naut: Exchanges the HumongousMecha for a FlyingSaucer equipped with FrickinLaserBeams and DeflectorShields that also has a hyperdrive.
133	* [[GreenThumb Wildvine]]:
134	** Omni-Kix: Gets a tree-like super suit that has a resemblance to Ultimate Swampfire. Becomes able to create and control [[NinjaPirateRobotZombie robotic plant minions]], as well as use a set of tentacles on his legs (similar to his original series appearance) to hover.
135	** Omni-Naut: Basically Omni-Kix form with some additional features, namely electrified tentacles.
136	* Omni-Kix [[MakingASplash Overflow]]: Gains a flowing SurferDude [[RuleOfCool mane made of water]] and a generator on his back. [[MakingASplash Water]] abilities are supplemented by a LightningFireJuxtaposition, as well as being able to hover on a [[VideoGame/SuperMarioSunshine F.L.U.D.D.]]-esque water torrent.
137	* [[TheJuggernaut Gax]]:
138	** Omni-Enhanced: Gains a gauntlet and armour similar to Vilgax's ''Alien Force'' appearance. Becomes able to project a sword and shield out of energy, and physical strength is increased.
139	** Omni-Kix: Regresses into pre-[[WeCanRebuildHim rebuilding]] Vilgax-like form, but gets into a Dagon-esque mech which has CombatTentacles, {{Flight}}, a DeathRay, and a cloaking field.
140	* [[AngryGuardDog Wildmutt]]:
141	** Omni-Enhanced: Rock-covered paws and spikes, and has a tube-like visor around where his eyes would be able. Is able to see thanks to the visor, and becomes more bipedal and even stronger and more agile.
142	** Omni-Kix: Gains large spikes and tail similar to Ultimate Wildmutt. In addition to enhanced strength, agility and endurance, he can also now shoot his spikes and use wheels in his feet for brief bursts of SuperSpeed.
143	* Ripjaws:
144	** Omni-Enhanced: Gains XenomorphXerox armour with an extendable jaw and a additional jaw on his tongue. Can use lure to hypnotise enemies, has SuperStrength, and is able to absorb water molecules in the air to survive on land longer.
145	** Omni-Kix: Omni-Kix armour resembles a diving suit, and gets external set of teeth and lure. No need for water anymore (since armour just pumps it into him) and can [[IfItSwimsItFlies fly like he's underwater]].
146	* [[OurGhostsAreDifferent Ghostfreak]]:
147	** Omni-Enhanced: Second skin turns electric blue and becomes transparent, becomes able to use natural abilities (CombatTentacles and PsychicPowers) while within the second skin.
148	** Omni-Kix: Second skin becomes Omni-Kix armour that includes a [[TheGrimReaper skull-like face plate and a scythe]]. Immune to light and able to use LightEmUp and HellFire powers.
149	* [[EyeBeams Eye Guy]]:
150	** Omni-Enhanced: All parts aside from eyes become encased in Omni-Enhanced rock, eyes turn electric blue and spark. Can fire electricity and TechnicolorFire from eyes, as well as use VeinOVision to detect hidden enemies.
151	** Omni-Kix: Eyes become encased in mirrors, which enables BeamSpam attacks and X-Ray Vision. Can also emit sonic blasts from his ears.
152	* [[{{Kaiju}} Way Big]]:
153	** Omni-Enhanced: Gets electrically armoured fists and a chestplate similar to Franchise/UltramanZero. Grows slightly to around 250 feet, and becomes able to create electric energy balls.
154	** Omni-Kix: Gains [[Series/UltraZeroFight Ultraman Zero Darkness]]-esque armour and CastingAShadow abilities.
155	* Omni-Enhanced [[UnstoppableRage Rath]]: [[BodyHorror Upper skull is torn away, with Omni-Enhanced energy covering his brain]]. Becomes [[GeniusBruiser calmer and smarter]], and gets one extra claw on each hand.
156	* Omni-Enhanced Humungousaur: Gains a Ultimate-Humungousar Omni-Enhanced rock backplate and helmet. Able to shoot missiles from his hands and cause a shockwave clap.
157	* Omni-Enhanced [[IfItSwimsItFlies Jetray]]: Gets a JetPack and helmet, giving enhanced speed and durability. Becomes able to walk more upright and gets a BladeBelowTheShoulder on both arms.
158	* Omni-Enhanced [[BlobMonster Goop]]: Saucer merges with body and legs disappear, replaced by {{Flight}}. Enhanced strength and speed, and [[MesACrowd can split up into smaller goo-saucer hybrids]] that all act under one HiveMind.
159	* Omni-Enhanced [[AsteroidsMonster Slapback]]: Completely covered in Omni-Enhanced rock and energy, making him taller and looking a little bit like Ditto. Becomes able to ride on a hoverboard made of energy and has a longer reach.
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161	[[WMG: Serena and Bellicus are suppressing Alien X’s power so that the others can defeat him more easily.]]
162	* That would explain why Alien X is weaker but more in control. They didn’t want him to destroy everything so they made him weaker while preventing him from changing forms, thus allowing him to be overwhelmed by the various Omnitrix wielders. As for why they didn’t just keep him in place forever, they probably knew that would take a ton of mental endurance to keep from disagreeing and allowing the Ben in control to cast a vote in his favor and wreak true havoc on the multiverse, so they just went for SuicideByCop.
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164	[[WMG: The high override was controlling his own people similarly to how he was controlling Ben.]]
165	This was why they were so easy for Vilgax to defeat—most of them didn’t ''want'' to fight back.
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