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| 4 | !!!''VideoGame/Persona5'' provides examples of the following tropes: |
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| 9 | * SadBattleMusic: "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbw6hF7tHns Throw Away Your Mask]]" for the new TrueFinalBoss in ''Royal'' is perhaps the most melancholic song ever done in the Persona series barring "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Wi1Y8cmjyM Heartful Cry]]" from ''[[VideoGame/Persona3 Persona 3: FES]]'', emphasizing that even in the depths of his madness, [[spoiler:Maruki is a fundamentally good person who regards all of his rivals as his friends and really doesn't want to be here, hurting them.]] It even has an instrumental for the first phase called, "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4yT7hnjWsE Keep Your Faith]]". |
| 10 | * SarcasticConfession: |
| 11 | ** In ''Royal'', during the cleanup on May 30, when Yoshizawa-san talks about the crimes you have allegedly committed, you can say that you "drive without a license, too." Yoshizawa blows it off as a joke, but Joker actually does drive without a license while exploring Mementos. |
| 12 | ** At one point, when Akechi is musing on the identity of the Phantom Thieves in front of your group, you have the option to tell him Ryuji is one. Joker clearly says it as a joke and Akechi treats it the same way. [[spoiler:Or at least, he appears to. It is strongly implied that he has known the identity of the Phantom Thieves since the events in Madarame's Palace.]] |
| 13 | * SavePoint: Joker uses an activity log he's supposed to keep as part of probation to save your current progress through the game. You can save anywhere it's safe enough to take it out and write down what you're doing. During DungeonCrawling, you can only save if you find one of a small number of safe rooms where enemies won't attack you. |
| 14 | * SaveTheVillain: |
| 15 | ** The heroes attempt to save TheHeavy for the villains, Black Mask, after [[spoiler:Shido's cognitive double of him appears and announces that Shido would just have him put down like a rabid dog once [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness his job is done]], leading to Akechi to shoot out a bulkhead door to save the thieves.]] |
| 16 | ** At the end of ''Royal'', after defeating the TrueFinalBoss [[spoiler:Takuto Maruki]], a part of the platform under him collapses and Joker desperately grabs his hand to prevent him from falling to his death. [[spoiler:Helicopter Morgana arrives just in time to save them both, and Maruki is last seen as a taxi driver vowing to face his pain head-on.]] |
| 17 | * SaveTheWorldClimax: The game starts out with small-scale conflicts, and the stakes [[SerialEscalation periodically rise]] until the same teenagers that were exposing a sexual predator less than a year ago are now [[spoiler:reclaiming humanity's freedom from the clutches of an evil god.]] |
| 18 | * SchizophrenicDifficulty: |
| 19 | ** Madarame, the second boss, is maybe the hardest in the game -- not because of outrageous stats or an unbalanced movepool, but simply because [[EarlyGameHell the party's abilities haven't significantly improved]] since the battle with [[WarmUpBoss Kamoshida]] and Madarame actually poses a threat. After beating him, the player's strategic repertoire expands so much that there are few challenges remaining other than the Reaper. |
| 20 | ** In ''Royal'' this applies to Okumura instead, as Madarame is significantly easier there. While his robot mooks are no different from before, if the party does not beat them within two turns, he will instantly remove them and replace them with a fresh wave of four, and he will repeat this indefinitely until the whole wave is defeated, which can easily stall the party until they time out. To complicate things, he can even cast Rakukaja on the robots to make sure he gets his way and he can still inflict Famine as before, making the robots extremely hard to kill. If the player has not prepared for this fight, they ''will'' get stuck. Mixed with GuideDangIt, there is no warning before this happens and there is also no indication that the robots are ''very'' vulnerable to a big list of conditions that can hit them with Technical and they don't resist Gun Damage, and the player may not find it out unless by accident or trial-and-error. And don't forget that Okumura is a TimeLimitBoss. |
| 21 | * SchoolSettingSimulation: Subverted. The first Palace is located in the school, but in the [[MentalWorld Metaverse]] it looks like a medieval castle. |
| 22 | * ScrewThisImOuttaHere: After the Phantom Thieves defeat the cleaner in [[spoiler:Shido's Palace]], he commends them on their strength and gives them his letter, much to the thieves surprise. He no longer sees a point in bothering to stop them, as they're probably going to succeed in bringing down [[spoiler:Shido]] anyway, saying, "the captain was great and all, but he's gonna have to go down with this ship alone." |
| 23 | * SealedGoodInACan: [[spoiler:Igor, the BigGood of the ''Franchise/{{Persona}}'' franchise, spends most of the game sealed away by the game's hidden BigBad, who's been [[IdentityImpersonator impersonating him]]. It's only after discovering the villain's deception that Igor is freed and lends you his full aid in the FinalBattle.]] |
| 24 | * SecretlySelfish: Presented as a positive. Several Personas -- most notably Milady -- will only form the contract when their summoner admits what they ''really'' want, beyond more noble and nebulous concepts such as justice. The game does not see self-interest as a bad thing; in fact, it's often a motivating force. Half the team want revenge on one person or another for screwing up their lives, Yusuke's need to have his talent acknowledged, Makoto's desire to change her sister's heart and Haru's desire to not be sold off to an abusive husband are shown as not only understandable, but perfectly legitimate reasons for doing what they do. Joker is ostensibly the only one that has completely selfless reasons, but the final act of the game makes it clear that he wants to punish those that abuse their power out of revenge for the way he was treated for trying to help someone. More than anything else, he wants freedom, feeling trapped by the circumstances thrust upon him. |
| 25 | * SecurityBlindspot: The Palace of Junya Kaneshiro, head of a local hangure, is modeled after an immense bank, with security cameras abound. Some are fixed on one location, whilst others switch on and off based on a rotation. While cutting the power to a number of the cameras is required to advance, at times the player will need to use Thief's Eye to see where the camera is looking, and then avoid its line of sight. |
| 26 | * {{Sentai}}: TheHeavy for the bad guys, "Black Mask", dresses as an EvilCostumeSwitch version of heroes from Phoenix Ranger Featherman, ''Persona'''s Japanese Saturday morning superhero ShowWithinAShow. One of your party members, Yusuke Kitagawa, also has a side-story vignette where he and the protagonists do {{Super Sentai Stance}}s while trying to figure out how to repair some superhero team action figures he accidentally broke. ''Royal'' adds a costume pack as [=DLC=] that lets the player have the Phantom Thieves dress up as Featherman in the Metaverse. |
| 27 | * SequelEscalation: ''Persona 5'' adds {{Stealth Based Game}}play to dungeon traversal, a wider selection of stat improving minigames, a larger overworld filled with hundreds of [=NPCs=], completely remade enemy/demon/Persona models, and even more stylized VideogameInterfaceElements. |
| 28 | * SequelHook: |
| 29 | ** A small one, but during the ending cutscene, the heroes find that [[spoiler:they are being tailed by men in black suits. We do not know exactly who they are or what they want, but Morgana sabotages their car and the heroes drive away. This leads into ''VideoGame/Persona5Strikers'', where we get some answers on this moment.]] |
| 30 | ** Completing Akechi's confidant in ''Royal'' adds a post-credits {{stinger}}: [[spoiler:while Joker is riding the train home, a man wearing a familiar brown uniform can briefly be seen outside, heavily implying Akechi is alive again. Joker's Metaverse mask is then reflected in the window, implying this won't be the end of the Phantom Thieves.]] |
| 31 | * SerialEscalation: In ''VideoGame/Persona3'', the first entry of the soft reboot of the series, Shadows were mostly just monsters of another world with the aspect of reflecting humanity only touched upon at the end. In ''VideoGame/Persona4'', this nature is elaborated on, with Shadows established as the unseen sides of the human soul, the parts of which that are kept buried beneath the surface. However, ''Persona 5'' shows this isn't black-and-white: not that the repressed feelings may only be that which a good person doesn't want to face, but the hidden, distorted desires that a malicious soul might just be keeping from the public eye... in other words, a malevolent Shadow ''on the antagonist's side.'' |
| 32 | * SevenDeadlySins: As shown in the opening and the AchievementSystem trophies for beating each dungeon, the Metaverse, a MentalWorld shaped by warped desires, is filled with avatars of the standard seven deadly sins and three non-standard ones, represented by ten Latin words: |
| 33 | ** Luxuria (Lust) - Asmodeus/Suguru Kamoshida, a teacher who uses his position to pressure his students into sleeping with him. |
| 34 | ** Irritum (Vanity) - Azazel/Ichiryuusai Madarame, a con-man who has spent decades passing off his pupils' work as his own to pretend to be a genius painter. |
| 35 | ** Gula (Gluttony) - Bael/Junya Kaneshiro, an overweight mafia boss obsessed with blackmailing others to accumulate more and more money, despite having no plans for it other than to have more. |
| 36 | ** Ira (Wrath) - The Sphinx/Cognitive Wakaba Isshiki, the representation of a teenage girl's self-hatred over [[spoiler:believing that she was at fault for her mother's suicide.]] |
| 37 | ** Avaritia (Greed) - Mammon/Kunikazu Okumura, the president of a fast food company engaged in questionable business practices and putting his own daughter in an ArrangedMarriage with an extremely abusive man to grow his massive food distribution company. |
| 38 | ** Invidia (Envy) - Leviathan/[[spoiler:Sae Niijima, a rising public prosecutor insecure about proving the equal of her co-workers and providing for her sister, leading her to a SecondPlaceIsForLosers mentality that has turned her into an InspectorJavert.]] |
| 39 | ** Cavum (Emptiness) - [[spoiler:Loki/Goro Akechi, a sociopathic and nihilistic hitman with a dead mother, a father who couldn't care less about him, and no real friends, to the point where despite having the [[AllYourPowersCombined Wild Card]] ability, he only has two Personas, one born of lies, the other, his hate. His end goal is to bring his father to the height of power, only to then destroy both his and his father's careers by revealing ''all'' of their shared crimes, which he hopes will also cause major chaos and social collapse in a country he feels has been utterly complacent to the suffering of [[BastardBastard children like himself]], seemingly uncaring that he orphaned [[HeroicBastard such a child]] on his father's orders.]] |
| 40 | ** Superbia (Pride) - Samael/[[spoiler:Masayoshi Shido, a highly CorruptPolitician who believes the horrible things he's done to complete innocents, including ''half your party'', are entirely justified and that he is ''God's chosen'', simply because he managed to get away with it.]] |
| 41 | ** Acedia (Sloth) - Mementos/The people of Tokyo, a massive underground dungeon representing the city's collective BystanderSyndrome [[spoiler:where the BigBad imprisons the hearts of those who will not adhere to his KnightTemplar order, to wallow away forever or rot in false contentment.]] |
| 42 | ** The Final Boss is [[spoiler:Yaldabaoth, the God of Control and master of the Metaverse, who runs a rigged game with Joker in order to rationalize his totalitarian rule against the ignorant masses]]. They represent ''all'' the sins, to the point they have skills named after each of the sins. |
| 43 | ** Tristitia (Melancholy) - The TrueFinalBoss of ''Royal'', [[spoiler:Takuto Maruki/Azathoth, who lost his girlfriend to catatonic depression because she was traumatized by her parents being murdered in an indoor burglary, was one of the more fortunate victims of Masayoshi Shido's crimes, and got his research denied by his professor. All of this led to Yaldabaoth accidentally awakening him, leading Maruki to change from just trying to get people to follow his methods of dealing with pain to wanting to trap everyone in a LotusEaterMachine [[NeverBeHurtAgain to prevent them from being sad]].]] |
| 44 | ** Quite a few of the Mementos targets represent them, particularly Greed and Envy. |
| 45 | * ShiftingSandLand: Futaba's [[TempleOfDoom Palace]] is surrounded by a cognitive desert that represents the fact that she doesn't get out much. |
| 46 | * ShipperOnDeck: In some Confidants, various characters may assume that you and the Confidant in question are going out. It's up to you to decide whether or not to prove them right. |
| 47 | * ShooTheDog: Morgana tries this after leaving due to feeling inadequate after one particular palace. After agreeing to a temporary truce, he says he'll drag them down but is told to stop lying to himself, and all is forgiven. |
| 48 | * ShopFodder: Most of the treasure you steal from the various Palaces, can only be sold at the weapon shop for cash. They have no other uses and stay in a separate tab from equipment and other usable items. |
| 49 | * ShoutOut: [[ShoutOut/Persona5 A full page for them]]. |
| 50 | * ShownTheirWork: |
| 51 | ** Making coffee at Leblanc will sometimes prompt Sojiro to visit you and give you a history lesson on different types of coffee beans and how they're grown. |
| 52 | ** Related to that, making curry at Leblanc can also net you actual real world tips and tricks for cooking up Japanese-style curry (specifically Japanese-style mind you, as the tips don't work as well for other curries from around the world). |
| 53 | * ShowWithinAShow: One of the minigames the protagonist can participate in is playing a video game called ''Star Forneus 1988''. |
| 54 | * ShutUpHannibal: During the TrueFinalBoss of ''Royal'', [[spoiler:Maruki calls out each of your party members for rejecting his reality, noting that their lives would be much better if they accepted it.]] Each member (barring [[TheQuietOne Joker]]) vocally rejects the offer again before they get back to fighting. |
| 55 | * SidetrackedByTheGoldenSaucer: ''Royal'' introduces the Thieves' Den after you finish Kamoshida's Palace. It offers several minigames to play with your crew and numerous perks if you spend enough time. Time doesn't pass in the Thieves' Den so you can play to your heart's content without worry of losing days. |
| 56 | * SinisterSubway: Mementos, which resembles a subway system full of Shadows and veins, and carries passengers (people's Shadows) deep into the earth [[spoiler:to the Prison of Regression.]] |
| 57 | * SitcomArchnemesis: Futaba seems to have something against Yusuke. She constantly ribs on him, and when he makes a mouse pun later in the game (due to them all being temporarily turned into mice in a palace), she is very unamused. She even insults him out of nowhere in the epilogue. Presumably it started when he rearranged the body parts of her models of the Feathermen to appear more aesthetically pleasing to him though it horrified her. The Mementos conversations make it clear that they're on good terms with each other, in spite of their differences. Futaba is quick to alert Yusuke to a sale, and when Yusuke talks about how much he enjoys the Phantom Thief costumes, she offers to recreate the costumes with him. |
| 58 | * SittingOnTheRoof: The heroes use chairs littered around their school's roof for their first hideout to secretly plan their PhantomThief activities, before people notice they've been hanging up there a lot, forcing them to relocate. It's also a rare occasion in which the fact that the roof is off-limits to students is openly acknowledged in-story. |
| 59 | * SkeletonKey: Sort of. The Eternal Lockpick/Perma-pick isn't exactly a key, but it ignores the one use limit on lock picks allowing it to unlock every chest. |
| 60 | * SlasherSmile: In two rare heroic examples, both Joker and Yusuke sport pretty menacing grins after awakening to their Personas. For a more traditional example, [[spoiler:Akechi and his cognitive counterpart make these nonstop after the former fully turns on the party.]] |
| 61 | * SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism: The game's events are much DarkerAndEdgier than its predecessor, but the narrative's tone is just as idealistic, with characters managing to overcome both their flaws and their opposition with an ultimately happy conclusion. |
| 62 | ** That said, the game does take a slightly cynical view of adults, particularly those in a position of great authority. |
| 63 | * SmartPeopleWearGlasses: |
| 64 | ** Possibly invoked by Joker. He doesn't actually need glasses, but he wears them in a seeming attempt to look smarter and overcome the stigma that comes with having a criminal record. |
| 65 | ** The icon for the Knowledge social stat is a pair of glasses. |
| 66 | * SmashToBlack: In ''Royal'''s new Bad Ending, if [[spoiler:Joker accepts Maruki's reality]], the screen suddenly distorts with the actualization taking fold before cutting to darkness, then Joker finding himself with everyone back at Leblanc. |
| 67 | * SoftGlass: Towards the end of the prologue mission Joker is cornered on all sides save for the convenient giant stained glass window while attempting to escape, so naturally he jumps through the window with ease without a scratch to show for it. |
| 68 | * SomethingSomethingLeonardBernstein: As usual, Shoji Meguro's themes are in English, despite Meguro not being entirely fluent, and sung by a non-English speaker, resulting in hard to make out lyrics. |
| 69 | * SomewhereAMammalogistIsCrying: Haru calls civets cats even though they're more similar to mongooses. |
| 70 | * SortingAlgorithmOfEvil: Zigzagged. While seemingly played straight, the [[FemalesAreMoreInnocent two ladies]] who own palaces and two which are significantly more sympathetic each break the pattern. |
| 71 | ** First up we have [[EvilTeacher Suguru Kamoshida]], an abusive PE coach who makes life hell for his volleyball team, any female students who catch his eye, and pretty much anyone who looks at him the wrong way. He has the ear of the school principal, who covers up his abuses for the sake of prestige and pedigree, and it's even suggested that parents and guardians are also aware of what's going on but do nothing for the same reason. He is a ''very'' [[ItsPersonal personal]] antagonist for three of the four founding members of the Phantom Thieves, having beaten one, sexually harassed another, and [[EvilIsPetty attempting to expel the third]], but is completely unrelated to the overall conspiracy and is small fry compared to what's to come -- small consolation that may be to the broken children he leaves behind. |
| 72 | ** The second target is [[PlagiarismInFiction Ichiryuusai Madarame]], a famous artist well-known to the media and the art world. A cynical man with a perpetual [[WritersBlock Artist's Block]], he steals his students' work, tweaks it to make it more financially marketable, and passes it off as his own. Although nowhere near as monstrous and utterly detestable as his predecessor (though he is morally bankrupt enough to allow one of his acquaintances to die so that he can steal her painting ''and'' her son), Madarame holds much greater influence and is a [[AmbiguousSituation nebulous]] financial backer of TheConspiracy, although he himself is being used [[UnwittingPawn unwittingly]]. He is the first person to imply a deeper and more sinister use for Palaces, revealing the existence of a dangerous black-masked assassin rampaging through the Metaverse who won't be dealt with until much later. |
| 73 | ** The stakes are raised again with the third target, [[TheMafia Junya Kaneshiro]], a brutal mobster who runs the underground of Shibuya with an iron fist. He extorts money from many a citizen, and has his goons approach and blackmail students to traffic drugs and even sell themselves. Worst of all, his cautious and elusive nature has essentially put him beyond the reach of the law. Not only is Kaneshiro an explicit backer of TheConspiracy, taking him down is what really puts the Phantom Thieves on the map. |
| 74 | ** The fourth target is a nebulous group of vigilante hacktivists calling themselves Medjed who attempt to discredit the Phantom Thieves by threatening cyberwarfare against the city unless the Phantom Thieves disband. This leads to the Phantom Thieves crossing paths with the fourth palace ruler Futaba Sakura who completely smashes the pattern, being a reclusive, heavily depressed young girl who blackmails the thieves into stealing her own heart. Ironically, it turns out that she, through her mother's research, has perhaps the strongest ties to the Metaverse and the ManBehindTheMan using it who was partly responsible for orchestrating the hacktivist attack to begin with. |
| 75 | ** {{Zigzagged}} for BadBoss [[AmbitionIsEvil Kunikazu Okumura]], the president of popular food chain Big Bang Burger, who's preparing marry his daughter to an abusive man for the sole purpose of becoming prime minister of Japan. He is both personally wealthy and a member of TheConspiracy, using their connections to eliminate key rivals and put himself ahead in business. However, having grown too big for his breeches, the ManBehindTheMan sets him up for a fall and has him murdered at an opportune time, completely destroying the Phantom Thieves' public image. Apparently, he also used to be a better person and his daughter mourns him, so he's presented more sympathetically despite the numerous murders. |
| 76 | ** Further Zigzagged with the sixth palace ruler, [[spoiler:Sae Niijima]], who is an UnwittingPawn to TheConspiracy and not so much "evil" as a good person who's lost sight of her values, but still provides a major threat to the Phantom Thieves' existence both inside and outside the Metaverse. Her pragmatism and lack of scruples in [[spoiler:solving the case at any cost]] make her a dangerous enemy, but ultimately [[spoiler:she regains control of herself without requiring a change of heart and becomes a major ally of the heroes against the real villains]]. Speaking of... |
| 77 | ** At last we come to the head of TheConspiracy, [[spoiler:VillainWithGoodPublicity Masayoshi Shido and his bastard son/personal assassin [[DragonWithAnAgenda Goro Akechi]]]]. Using his vast web of influence, research into the Metaverse, and a very eager Persona-using assassin on a tight leash, [[spoiler:Shido meticulously carries out a bloody bid for Prime Minister]]. He is ultimately behind the mental shutdowns and psychotic breakdowns, which were used to remove and implicate key individuals [[spoiler:whose downfalls his campaign would benefit from]]. He was directly and indirectly funded by several of the above enemies, although not all of them knew exactly what he was doing. After some personal setbacks and a grueling battle, the Phantom Thieves triumph over [[spoiler:Shido and Goro, the latter of whom reveals himself as TheStarscream and leaves the story on a DeathEqualsRedemption note]]. This is also an ironic case of BookEnds, as the head of the Conspiracy ended up being [[spoiler:the petty sexual harasser who sued the protagonist at the very start of the game -- an astronomical coincidence that our protagonist, at the end of the game, believes to have been preordained by a higher power]]. And perhaps with good reason... |
| 78 | ** The final Palace ruler of Vanilla, [[spoiler:Yaldabaoth, AKA the Holy Grail, AKA the Treasure of Mementos, is an EldritchAbomination who usurped the Velvet Room before the story started and began posing as Igor. The "game", as he puts it, was to see whether humanity had a future; if they could be moved to embrace the righteous thieves, embodied by the Trickster, against the chaos and the corrupt establishment, championed by Goro Akechi. As they did not -- as they turned against the thieves to the point of removing them from cognition, choosing instead a life of indolence, passing off all responsibility to the Holy Grail -- Yaldabaoth concludes that they do not deserve to exist. His menace is a threat to the entire world, and he is the fiend that Lavenza, the Velvet Room's true avatar of power, had warned the protagonist of at the start of the game. He also extends a sincere WeCanRuleTogether offer to the heroes, promising to suspend his plan of destruction and rebirth and simply observe the continued actions of the Phantom Thieves provided the Holy Grail is left alone. If he's refused, his defeat comes only after the DarkestHour, and requires the protagonist unleashing his Ultimate Persona, Satanael.]] |
| 79 | ** The final Palace ruler of ''Royal'' is [[spoiler:''anything but evil'']]. It's actually [[spoiler:Takuto Maruki]], a loyal ally of yours who has been [[spoiler:driven insane, and he creates a fake reality where everyone will be happy and no longer suffer from the hardships of reality, in which all of their desires become true through his reality warping.]] While it's not a good thing, it's very heavily implied that [[spoiler:he's just one more victim to Yaldabaoth's plans...and a special one since he corrupted his Persona which he uses to warp reality, and then it manipulates him to warp it to imperfect-perfectness.]] |
| 80 | * SpannerInTheWorks: [[spoiler:The drugs the cops give to Joker at the start of the game make his memory hazy. Because of this, he can potentially forget all about the fact that he intended to get arrested to get off the radar and can end up selling out his fellow Phantom Thieves to get reduced charges (and also forget to give Sae the phone with the Metaverse Nav on it), leading to his assassination by Akechi. However, if you refuse to sell your teammates out, the drugs wear off enough for Joker to remember to give her the phone, which saves his life.]] |
| 81 | * SpeakInUnison: Caroline and Justine do this near the climax of the game, complete with the requisite CreepyMonotone. it's a sign that their true identity as [[spoiler:Lavenza]] is resurfacing. |
| 82 | * SpeechBubbles: Multiple parts of the user interface will pop up as white bubbles with black text in them. |
| 83 | * SpeedStripes: White lines appear around the edges of the screen when the characters move at high speeds. |
| 84 | * SpellingForEmphasis: When Ryuji is excited about hiring a sketchy French maid, he literally spells it out to Joker. |
| 85 | -->'''Ryuji:''' Maids! M-A-I-D-S! That will do anything! For! You!! So?... So?! |
| 86 | * SpitTake: Ryuji does this during an optional evening confidant event at Leblanc's if the protagonist mucks up brewing coffee and it ends up way too bitter (by putting some love into it, instead of doing it as instructed). |
| 87 | * SpoilerCover: A more subdued example that most westerners will overlook is Goro Akechi's presence on the box art for both ''Persona 5'' and ''Persona 5 Royal''. At the time of ''Persona 5'''s release in Japan, Akechi joining the Phantom Thieves was considered a spoiler, which is why he rarely appeared in promotional material leading up to the game's release. |
| 88 | * SpoilerOpening: Zigzagged. The game's opening sequence hides your future party members in shadow so as not to explicitly give their names, appearances, and thief costumes away. This would probably be a little more meaningful were it not for the "let us start the game" image that appears every time ''Persona 5'' is booted up, which gives us a nice look at [[http://i.imgur.com/rnbfsl4.jpg every single one of the thieves in their metaverse attire]], up to and including [[TheRival Goro Akechi]], whose addition to the team marks a fairly major turning point in the story. Atlus seemed unsure of just how far to market Akechi in general; he was conspicuously absent from a good chunk of promotional material that would've given his addition to the group away, but occasionally showed up in costume previews alongside the other playable characters, along with the box art, which made him joining the gang a ForegoneConclusion. |
| 89 | * StatusEffects: The game introduces many status effects, some similar to status effects from previous ''Persona'' games, and others exclusive to the current iteration of the battle system. |
| 90 | ** ''Burn'' - Caused rarely by fire skills, deals minor damage to the target after they do anything, potentially multiple times in a turn if they knock down an enemy to get extra actions. Induces bonus "Technical" damage from wind and nuclear attacks. |
| 91 | ** ''Shock'' - Caused rarely by electric skills, inflicts paralysis as well as capable of being spread through physical contact (such as attacking via normal attack) and inducing bonus "Technical" damage from physical and nuclear attacks. |
| 92 | ** ''Freeze'' - Caused rarely by ice skills, prevents the target from acting during their turn, reduces physical resistance, and induces bonus "Technical" damage from physical and nuclear attacks. |
| 93 | ** ''Dizzy'' - A stand-in for blindness; severely drops physical and magical attack accuracy as well as induces bonus "Technical" damage. |
| 94 | ** ''Forget'' - A stand-in for silence; disables use of any Persona skills. |
| 95 | ** ''Sleep'' - Disables all actions, yet recovers HP and SP each turn. Induces bonus "Technical" damage but wears off immediately afterward. |
| 96 | ** ''Hunger'' - A new status effect which severely drops attack power for the afflicted target. |
| 97 | ** ''Confuse'' - Afflicted target either does nothing, throws away money, throws an item at the enemy, or uses an item. |
| 98 | ** ''Fear'' - Afflicted target is likelier to ignore commands and/or run away from battle. |
| 99 | ** ''Despair'' - A unique stand-in for Doom; afflicted target has disabled actions and loses SP every turn, and is eventually incapacitated after three turns. |
| 100 | ** ''Rage'' - Also known as berserk; afflicted target can't be controlled, can only use basic attacks, and has their attack power increased while their defense is decreased. |
| 101 | ** ''Brainwash'' - Also known as charmed; afflicted target can't be controlled, can heal or cast buffs on the enemy, as well as attack allies. |
| 102 | ** ''Rattled'' - Unique status effect in which the target is [[VisualPun turned into a rat]] and takes increased damage and cannot act. |
| 103 | ** Madarame's paint attack causes a unique status that makes a character weak to all elements. |
| 104 | ** [[spoiler:Yaldabaoth]] inflicts unique status ailments via use of [[spoiler:the SevenDeadlySins. Vanity causes the same effect as Madarame's paint attack while Greed causes Hunger.]] |
| 105 | *** Lust causes the afflicted to skip a turn, but only lasts a single turn. |
| 106 | *** Gluttony doubles the party's cost of using skills for a few turns. |
| 107 | *** Wrath appears to be a less serious version of Rage/Berserk. It increases attack power and decreases defense, but the afflicted can still be controlled, and it only lasts one turn. |
| 108 | *** Envy causes a unit to become jealous for a turn, making the affected attack an ally for assisting another ally. |
| 109 | * StarterMon: Arsène, the only level 1 Persona GuardianEntity, who you get at the very start of the game and starts with nothing but a weak physical attack and a weak darkness spell. Leveling him up will take longer than any other Persona in the game, and you'll have to sacrifice dozens of stronger Personas to give him enough high-end skills to make him useful beyond the first dungeon. The game heavily encourages you to sacrifice him in your first fusion as well, making clear that you are not meant to hold on to any given persona for too long before fusing them for something new. |
| 110 | * StatGrinding: Training in either Leblanc's attic or at the Protein Lovers gym increases Joker's HP and SP each time. Continued training at Protein Lovers will eventually unlock harder training regimens that further increase these stats, and drinking a Protein Shake beforehand will add even more gains per session. |
| 111 | * StealingTheCredit: One of the most common abuses of power featured in the game. |
| 112 | ** Madarame has passed off his underlings' work as his own for years. |
| 113 | ** In Ryuji's link, the teacher who is supposed to take over the track team has every intention of hiring a coach to do the actual work, but claim the credit himself. |
| 114 | ** Tae Takemi's boss hijacked her research so that he could lay claim to a breakthrough discovery. Then blamed her when his recklessness ruined the project. |
| 115 | ** In a sidequest, a woman's boss tells her to accept that her male coworker [[StealingTheCredit stole the credit for her work]] because she's a woman and that's "the natural order of things". |
| 116 | * StealthBasedGame: In dungeons, you can sneak around foes by {{flash step}}ping behind walls, hopping into paintings, and so forth. This allows you to perform {{Back Stab}}s to give your party [[AdvantageBall the first turn]] in battle. |
| 117 | * StealthPun: |
| 118 | ** Ann and Morgana are both burglars that dress like/''actually are'' cats. |
| 119 | ** Futaba's Palace is an Egyptian pyramid and her Shadow is an Egyptian princess half wrapped in bandages. This is because she has "mummy" issues. |
| 120 | ** The name of the game itself could be interpreted as such: "Persona 5" sounded out sounds a lot like "personified" |
| 121 | ** In dungeons, you can find dirty clothing in locked chests. It's as though you are finding the target's dirty laundry hidden away. |
| 122 | ** Joker wears bright red gloves that stand out against the muted, almost black color scheme of the rest of his outfit. Since he's a thief, this means that if he's found out, he'll be ''caught red handed.'' |
| 123 | ** The ATM people outside of Kaneshiro's palace are malfunctioning and are generally broken. They are broke (in the financial sense) people. |
| 124 | ** [[spoiler:Shido's]] palace is the National Diet building as a giant cruise ship sailing through the rest of Japan, which is completely underwater. In real estate, "underwater" is a slang term for a property with a mortgage balance that's higher than its market value, which is true of a lot of Japanese land due to a huge financial crisis in 1992. |
| 125 | ** The name of the bar where you unlock the Devil confidant is called "Crossroads." There's an old folk tale in the U.S. about a blues singer making a DealWithTheDevil while standing at a crossroads (the song "Crossroad Blues" is supposedly about this). |
| 126 | * StepfordSmiler: |
| 127 | ** Goro Akechi, who kept up the image of a talented junior detective and honor student just so someone would want him around after spending his childhood as an abused orphan and the SonOfAWhore. His facade cracks completely, during his [[spoiler:final fight with the Phantom Thieves.]] |
| 128 | ---> '''Akechi:''' [[spoiler:Teammates!? Friends!? ''To hell with that!'' Why am I inferior to you...!? I was ''extremely particular'' about my life, my grades, my public image, so ''someone'' would want me around! I am an Ace Detective... a ''celebrity''! But you... you're just some criminal trash living in an ''attic!'' So how...!? How does someone like you have things I don't!? ''How can such a worthless piece of trash be more special than me!?'']] |
| 129 | ** Kasumi Yoshizawa seems to be a cheerful and successful gymnast and honor student, but she isn't...and by "isn't", [[spoiler:this meant that she isn't even Kasumi Yoshizawa to begin with.]] At first it seems like she simply has self-confidence issues and her sister died, and then her scholarship gets revoked for "bad performances". Time goes foward to the January of next year...and we found out that [[spoiler:this is ''horribly'' subverted because this "Kasumi Yoshizawa" isn't Kasumi, but her younger sister '''Sumire''' Yoshizawa whom Kasumi died to protect her from incoming traffic. In addition to this, Sumire is generally just mentally unstable, suicidally depressed and jealous of Kasumi enough to make her think that if she isn't Kasumi, she should just go commit suicide...and Kasumi protecting her from a rather bad impulsive act that might cause her to be hit by traffic just puts her mental health to abysmal levels.]] |
| 130 | * TheStinger: |
| 131 | ** There's a scene at the end of the credits after the good ending. Joker is now [[spoiler:a free man, but has to go home. His friends decide to take him there with a van that's the same type Morgana turned into in the Metaverse, but not without a road trip. The game ends with Joker sticking his head out of the roof while driving by the coast.]] |
| 132 | ** In ''Royal'', however, Joker [[spoiler:doesn't get to go on the Phantom Thieves' roadtrip. Instead, the Thieves use themselves and their Citroen Type-H as a decoy while Maruki - having transitioned into a new career as a taxi driver - takes Joker to the Shibuya train station.]] Additionally, while sitting on the train and preparing to leave, Joker looks out of the window at the passers-by... [[spoiler:just as someone wearing Akechi's school uniform strolls on by, their face hidden by the sun glare, hinting of Akechi's survival]]. |
| 133 | * StockRPGSpells: Notable for adding complexity to the ''Persona 3'' and ''4'' set of spells. They are: |
| 134 | ** [[WhenAllYouHaveIsAHammer Physical/Phys]]. |
| 135 | ** [[MoreDakka Gun]]. Gun and Phys skils are CastFromHitPoints and can land critical hits. |
| 136 | ** [[PlayingWithFire Fire]]. May burn foes. |
| 137 | ** [[AnIcePerson Ice]]. May freeze opponents solid. |
| 138 | ** [[BlowYouAway Wind]]. No added effect, but costs less SP. Deals extra damage to burning enemies. |
| 139 | ** [[ShockAndAwe Electric]]. May paralyze foes. |
| 140 | ** [[AtomicSuperpower Nuclear]]. Deals extra damage to burned, frozen, or shocked foes. |
| 141 | ** [[MindOverMatter Psychic]]. Deals extra damage to foes suffering from other StatusEffects. |
| 142 | ** [[CastingAShadow Curse/Dark]]. |
| 143 | ** [[LightEmUp Bless/Light]]. Curse/Dark and Bless/Light spells are each a flavor of OneHitKill. ''Persona 5'' added Bless/Light and Curse/Dark spells that deal normal damage. |
| 144 | ** [[NonElemental Almighty]]. Deals neutral damage against any foe and can't be [[AttackReflector reflected]]. Has higher base power than other spells, but a monstrous SP cost. |
| 145 | * SuckySchool: Shujin Academy, especially at the start. The students are rather toxic against others who stand out in a negative way with their [[MaliciousSlander gossip]], for no reason other than [[GossipyHens to gossip about something]], [[EvilTeacher Kamoshida]] is allowed to physically abuse the male students and sexually harass (and assault) the female students, as the principal is willing to sweep all of his crimes under the rug simply because Kamoshida is a former olympic athlete and his presence alone [[SlaveToPR gives the school a lot of good publicity]]. [[spoiler:As if that wasn't enough, the principal is also in ties with TheConspiracy and it's heavily implied he got his position thanks to it, and is also the reason why he let all of Kamoshida's crimes slide]]. Unlike many examples, Shujin's academic record is apparently rather good, but none of the party members particularly enjoy their time at the school, with Ann even calling it a "sorry excuse of a school". |
| 146 | * SummonMagic: As in previous ''Persona'' games, all your special attacks and magic are performed by summoning a GuardianEntity representation of a character's psyche. This time around, the Persona will appear as soon as you start looking through your skill list. |
| 147 | * {{Superboss}}: |
| 148 | ** In NewGamePlus, you can optionally fight Caroline and Justine, who serve as the toughest boss fight in the game. ''Royal'' adds [[spoiler:Lavenza]] as an even tougher challenge. |
| 149 | ** If you stay still for a few minutes on a floor in Mementos, you can fight the Reaper, an insanely powerful Shadow meant for end game parties. |
| 150 | ** In ''Royal'', [[spoiler:collecting all of Jose's stamps unlocks a boss fight against him.]] |
| 151 | ** ''Royal'' has the ''VideoGame/Persona3'' and ''VideoGame/Persona4'' protagonists as optional DLC boss fights. |
| 152 | * SuperMovePortraitAttack: A cut-in of the character's eyes will flash onscreen any time your Persona performs a critical attack. In ''Royal'', a cut-in of the character's face will appear when they're ready to perform a Showtime Attack. |
| 153 | * SupernaturalGoldEyes: Shadow Selves once again sport glowing yellow eyes, even when appearing as {{Doppelganger}}s of their human selves. |
| 154 | ** As always, the attendants of the Velvet Room sport glowing eyes just a shade lighter than that of Shadows. Caroline and Justine draw even more attention to theirs, since they both wear an eyepatch. |
| 155 | ** Interestingly, the protagonists themselves have shadow eyes when they summon their Persona, both in [[GameplayAndStoryIntegration cutscene and in gameplay]]. |
| 156 | * SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: Even though [[spoiler:Akechi]] risked his life to save the Thieves in the seventh dungeon ''and'' turned himself in to protect them, this still isn't enough to let their guard down due to the scale of his prior actions and they are still cautious of him returning to the group in the final arc. Once he does, they aren't comfortable with him right away and it takes time for them to truly accept him. |
| 157 | * SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: |
| 158 | ** Mementos is a randomly-generated, multi-floor dungeon you can go to any time to level up and which is stated at the start of the game to be the focus of a game-long game quest to uncover its mysteries. It's the location of {{Sidequest}}s, is divided into "paths" named after concepts in Hebrew Mysticism, has calendar-based gates that only clear away by proceeding with the plot, and the bottom serves as the not-so-optional [[spoiler:penultimate dungeon]], making it a mirror image of [[EvilTowerOfOminousness Tartarus]] in ''VideoGame/Persona3''. And like Tartarus, if you spend too long in one floor, [[{{Superboss}} the Reaper]] comes after you. |
| 159 | ** At the end of Aiyatsbus in Mementos, you fight a short haired school girl's Shadow, who as it turns out is a total sadist and who drops a whip as her treasure, a la Chie's Shadow in ''VideoGame/Persona4''. |
| 160 | ** The sixth dungeon of the game was created by a party member's relative, is [[DiscOneFinalDungeon ostensibly the last dungeon]], has a theme song with lyrics and the choices you make in regard to the fallout determine which ending you get, something that applies to Heaven from ''Persona 4''. |
| 161 | * SweatDrop: Any time characters are suddenly worried, their character model will have 3 little drops of water pop out from their forehead. any time they're embarrassed, an oversized drop of water pops up on the side of their temple instead. |
| 162 | * SweepingLaserExplosion: The Inferno spell animation involves summoning a laser to sweep the ground to create a wall of fire. |
| 163 | * SympatheticVillainDespicableVillain: [[spoiler:Masayoshi Shido and his illegitimate son Goro Akechi/Black Mask are the ones behind the murders plaguing Tokyo, with the former ordering the hits and the latter carrying them out. However, though Akechi's crimes are deemed unforgivable, he is revealed to have been manipulated by Shido and the Phantom Thieves ultimately see him as a fellow victim of society. In contrast, Shido is a corrupt politician responsible for much of the suffering the Thieves endure, for no deeper motive than a lust for power.]] |
| 164 | [[/folder]] |
| 165 | |
| 166 | [[folder:T]] |
| 167 | * TailorMadePrison: Inverted. The Velvet Room, which changes into a location tailor-made for its current guest, becomes a prison for ''P5''[='=]s Protagonist. |
| 168 | * TakeCover: The protagonist can hide behind walls and furniture while sneaking around. |
| 169 | * TakenOffTheCase: Sae is taken off the Phantom Thieves' case near the end of the game, much to her frustration. [[spoiler:This was to keep her out of the way so the conspiracy could execute Joker. They also wanted to trigger a [[TheyKnowTooMuch mental shutdown in her to keep her quiet.]]]] But she doesn't follow orders and ends up going to interrogate Joker, leading to the final arc of the game. |
| 170 | * TakeThat: |
| 171 | ** Ms. Kawakami basically calls ''The Tale of The Bamboo Cutter'' a story about a woman making unreasonable demands to her suitors, sending them to get expensive shit for her, and then high-tailing it to the moon. (This is an inaccurate telling, which conveniently ignores the fact that the whole reason she set them with an ImpossibleTask was so that they would give up, as she couldn't afford to get attached.) |
| 172 | ** Much like ''VideoGame/Persona4DancingAllNight'', this game depicts' Japan's IdolSinger industry ''extremely'' negatively, though it's mostly related to optional sidequests and a few Confidants. Shiro Asakusa, a manager who demands sexual favors from the models he manages, is the original game's only S-ranked target, and is represented by the demon Mara (i.e. the infamous Persona that looks like a giant penis). That said, you can tell Mishima that "there's a light side" to the entertainment industry too, just like how ''Dancing All Night'' suggests that for all the idol industry's problems, idols can have a positive impact on those they perform for. |
| 173 | * TakeYourTime: You can ride trains all across Tokyo, a process that in real life can take hours, without the sun or moon ever moving an inch. Until you actually engage in a side-story quest or a mini-game, time will never change. Additionally, the loading screen invokes the name of this trope. |
| 174 | * TalkingIsAFreeAction: Whenever one of the party members awaken to their Persona, they are surrounded by shadows who have been recently given orders from the Palace ruler which are some variation of "kill them." Each time, the awakening party member is cornered, but then stands up and delivers a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to the villain before awakening to their Persona and entering battle, and the whole time while they go through the motions (the declaration of rebellion, contract, etc) the Shadows and Palace ruler simply stand there and watch them rather than making any sort of motion to stop them. This is likely because the Palace rulers, and by extension the Shadows, are just as stunned as the party members, unable to do more than just watch in awe, since Palace rulers have no conception of anyone standing up to them, let alone awakening a Persona in their presence. |
| 175 | * TalkToTheHand: The protagonist will stick his hand out to the screen when you open the menu, with text reading "Don't look at me like that" in the corner of the screen. |
| 176 | * TarotMotifs: As in previous games, Personas[=/=]Shadows, party members, and various [=NPCs=] are divided into the 22 Major Arcana of the Tarot deck. |
| 177 | * ATasteOfPower: The prologue sequence has you enter a single fight with a much stronger Protagonist and a far more powerful Arsène than what you'll get at the proper starting point. This is justified due to the InMediasRes nature of the story—by the time the player catches up to this point, they'll have power equaling or exceeding this much. |
| 178 | * TeamMercyVsTeamMurder: During the events of the first palace, a serious debate goes on between the Phantom Thieves over whether or not they should kill Kamoshida for his heinous actions. They won't go through with this, but the PlayerCharacter can pick dialogue options explicitly in favor of murdering him, and everyone agrees that it'd be entirely justified. Ann even comes very close to giving him a mental shutdown but stops herself at the last second, if only because she recognizes death would be too easy of an out for a man like Suguru Kamoshida. |
| 179 | * TearOffYourFace: When party members first rip off their Persona masks, their face becomes appropriately bloodied as if it were their actual face. Ripping the mask off Shadows also surprises and shocks them, giving you an advantage in battle. |
| 180 | * TechnicolorFire: Blue flames are a major visual motif in the game. |
| 181 | ** In the second teaser, an otherworldly blue flame can be seen in the distance once [[TimeStandsStill time stops]]. |
| 182 | ** Each protagonist bursts into blue flame when they first awaken to their Persona. |
| 183 | ** Persona are now covered in blue flame when they are summoned. |
| 184 | * TempleOfDoom: Futaba's Palace takes the form of an ancient Egyptian pyramid in the middle of the desert, with some [[{{Cyberspace}} additional computer motifs]]. |
| 185 | * TemporalParadox: Averted. Due to the game's InMediasRes storytelling, failing to steal someone's heart before a deadline should invoke this, but the game plays it as the main character misremembering what happened due to being drugged too much. This also leads to a [[spoiler:DownerEnding where Joker forgets the plan to fake his death and Sae leaves before Joker tells her to take his phone and show it to Akechi, leaving the latter free to kill him.]] |
| 186 | * TemporaryPartyMemberToVillain: Goro Akechi joins the party for a single palace, before it's revealed that he was infiltrating the Phantom Thieves for his own ends, was the one responsible for the mental shutdowns, and was the traitor mentioned at the beginning of the game all along. |
| 187 | * TestSubjectForHire: This is how the protagonist forms a relationship with Doctor Tae Takemi, a disgraced but brilliant physician. She develops her own medications that are stronger than typical ODC drugs and offered to sell them to the protagonist if he became this. She was kidding, but after the protagonist obliged by drinking the chemicals she gave him, [[IGaveMyWord she held up her end of the deal]]. And we soon find out that all of the research is helping her develop a treatment for an otherwise incurable disease. [[spoiler:And if you max out the Confidant link, she succeeds]]. |
| 188 | * ThematicThemeTune: |
| 189 | ** "Wake Up, Get Up, Get Out There" by Lyn Inaizumi. The lyrics are about stepping out of one's comfort zone to confront the wrongdoings and evils in the world when others are content to just stand by and watch, and that if someone wants change in the world, they have to do it themselves rather than waiting on someone else. |
| 190 | ** "Life Will Change" by Lyn Inaizumi. The lyrics have characters who have now gained strength by discarding the masks that once held them back to challenge the established order, inspire others, and change the world around them with their own hands. |
| 191 | *** [[spoiler: In the Royal-only Maruki's Palace this is swapped out for the track 'I Believe'. The lyrics of the song reflect the Thieves' intentions to stop Maruki's rewritten reality, as well as the Wishing Star, which plays a huge role in this part of the game.]] |
| 192 | ** "Rivers in the Desert", which has the hero and villain switching off verses giving their motivations for fighting each other, only to come together in the refrain to declare their similar, WellIntentionedExtremist desires to change the world. |
| 193 | * ThemedCursor: In the PC port, the mouse cursor takes the form of Joker's dagger. |
| 194 | * ThemeMusicPowerUp: |
| 195 | ** "Awakening" kicks in any time a character awakens to their GuardianEntity and destroys a bunch of {{Mook}}s. |
| 196 | ** "Life Will Change" plays on any day the heroes pull off their latest [[TheCaper heist]]. Notably, the game uses two variants: the early Palaces all use an instrumental version, the final set of Palaces (starting with the Casino, as heard in the prologue) on the other hand make use of the lyrical version. |
| 197 | ** An instrumental version of "Wake Up, Get Up, Get Out There" plays when Futaba [[spoiler:hijacks all of Japan's airwaves to send out their calling card to Shido.]] |
| 198 | * ThemeTable: |
| 199 | ** As usual, each character is associated with a {{Tarot Motif|s}}. |
| 200 | ** Each character's starting Persona is based on a {{Picaresque}} hero. Meanwhile, each character's ultimate Persona is based on a RageAgainstTheHeavens mythological figure. |
| 201 | ** Each ArcVillain is associated with one of the SevenDeadlySins, including two from less popular traditions (Vanity and Despair). |
| 202 | * ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill: The party CombinationAttack has your team hitting the enemies so many times that they erupt into sprays of blood. Even if the opponent is one hit away from death. |
| 203 | * ThisIsAWorkOfFiction: All ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'' games begin with one of these, but this game stands out in particular by incorporating it into the narrative, with Igor asking the player directly whether they accept the disclaimer. [[ButThouMust Selecting "no" boots the player back to the title screen.]] |
| 204 | * ThresholdGuardians: Like in the [[VideoGame/Persona4 previous game]], the main cast's Shadows act like this. However, instead of manifesting to physically confront their real selves, they act as voices in their heads that challenge them to face the truths they've avoided and [[DareToBeBadass challenging them to break free and fight back]] against those against them. |
| 205 | * ThroughTheCeilingStealthily: The Phantom Thieves infiltrate Madarame's Palace by opening a skylight and lowering themselves down via a rope with a grappling hook to bypass the security in front. |
| 206 | * TimedMission: Each Palace has to be completed before a set date, or else something bad will happen. They are as followed: |
| 207 | ** Joker, Ryuji and Mishima will be expelled from school by Kamonshida, while its implied Ann surrenders herself to him just so he'll stop abusing Shiho. |
| 208 | ** Madarame takes legal action against the team and likely ruining Yusuke's life as well. |
| 209 | ** Kaneshiro leaks the photos of Makoto and the Thieves at the club, later having her sold into prostitution. |
| 210 | ** [[spoiler: Futaba commits suicide due to her lingering guilt.]] |
| 211 | ** Okumura will have his daughter be married off to an abusive asshole for connections to the political world. |
| 212 | ** [[spoiler: Sae launches an investigation against the Thieves that leads to their arrest.]] |
| 213 | ** [[spoiler: Shido is voted into office without a hitch.]] |
| 214 | ** [[spoiler: Maruki sees the team failing to meet the deadline as Joker’s indecisiveness causing him pain, putting Joker in a permanent sleep.]] |
| 215 | * TimeSkip: [[spoiler:Accepting Maruki's offer]] during the Third Semester in ''Royal'' causes the game to skip forward a couple months to March 15, when [[spoiler:Haru, Makoto, and Akechi are about to graduate from Shujin Academy]]. |
| 216 | * TimeStandsStill: When the protagonist first activates the Meta Nav app, everyone around him in a crowded intersection freezes, leaving only the protagonist still moving. |
| 217 | * ToBeLawfulOrGood: A central conflict in the game. The Phantom Thieves become criminals to reform those who have manipulated the rules of society to exploit others, and are thus untouchable by traditional authorities. Akechi's FaceHeelTurn also first appears to be caused by his desire to uphold the law instead of doing the right thing, only to turn out to be the opposite: He takes the Phantom Thieves' methods [[spoiler:to the extreme, killing people in order to propel his father to Prime Minister, then revealing said crimes in order to punish society as a whole for allowing Shido's abuse of others.]] |
| 218 | * TokenEvilTeammate: In ''Royal'', [[spoiler:Crow]] fits this trope after rejoining the party for the 3rd Semester; they're not TheMole anymore, but neither are they hiding their true nature. |
| 219 | * TokyoIsTheCenterOfTheUniverse: Being an AnthropomorphicPersonification of KnightTemplar order, the [[spoiler:BigBad could have basically manifested anywhere in Japan, or even the world at large. The game implies Shido's collective unconscious research and the Japanese public's tendency to think of themselves as one entity and not question authority much (compared to a country that actively glorifies various types of individualism, such as UsefulNotes/TheUnitedStates) helped, but there's no direct reason given.]] |
| 220 | * TomatoInTheMirror: In the [[GameWithinAGame in-universe video game]] ''Featherman Seeker'', it is revealed in the final stage that the protagonist is actually an alien monster created to destroy the Feathermen and that his mentor has been stringing him along the entire time. [[PhlebotinumRebel It doesn't end well for the mentor.]] |
| 221 | * TooAwesomeToUse: In the original release, your guns could often end up being this. They are powerful, but due to having limited ammo over the course of a dungeon, you might find yourself avoiding using them. ''Royal'' sought to rectify this by turning ammo into a per-battle resource rather than per-dungeon, giving you a full magazine every single fight. Overall damage was reduced to compensate for this however. |
| 222 | * TooLongDidntDub: Due to the game being explicitly set in UsefulNotes/{{Tokyo}}, Japan, various cultural references are untranslated. This includes things like Senpai/Kohai, food names, most UsefulNotes/JapaneseHonorifics with some exceptions[[note]]Morgana calls Ann "Lady" rather than "-dono", and teachers tend to be called "Mr." and "Ms." rather than "sensei".[[/note]] and so on. |
| 223 | * TrademarkFavoriteFood: PlayedForLaughs. When you go to a fancy buffet at multiple points throughout the story, female party member Ann will get nothing but desserts, and male party member Ryuji will get nothing but meat. Morgana, on the other hand, never misses an opportunity to demand fish in general, but sushi especially. |
| 224 | * TradeYourPassionForGlory: |
| 225 | ** The group starts to lose sight of their original goal to inspire people to change when they try to win support from the public by going after more high-profile targets that they allow the people to choose, unintentionally turning themselves into a fad rather than true social reformists in the public's eyes. [[spoiler:Shido]] takes advantage of it to screw them over using [[spoiler:Goro]] as a mole. In practice, however, this is a bit of an InformedFlaw, since they had several good reasons for going after Okumura- punishing him for abusing his workers, preventing Haru from being married off and finding the culprit behind the mental shutdowns. |
| 226 | ** An invoked example occurs with the deal offered by [[spoiler:Yaldabaoth. After nearly erasing the Phantom Thieves from reality, he offers to cut a deal with Joker that will ensure he stays in business and remain famous and loved, at the cost of leaving the Holy Grail (to which people are subconsciously surrendering their free will) alone. Naturally, getting the true ending requires sticking to your principles and refusing the offer, though if you do in fact accept it, Yaldabaoth keeps his word and you get a bad ending where Joker and Yaldabaoth have effectively taken over the city.]] |
| 227 | ** Another invoked example appears when Joker cuts a deal with [[spoiler:Maruki]], either by direct offer or inaction. [[spoiler:Maruki]] will offer Joker [[spoiler:to let him overwrite the current reality so everyone can live HappilyEverAfter with no more meaningless suffering.]] It seems a lot better than [[spoiler:Yaldabaoth's deal]], but it's ultimately still [[spoiler:apathy and nihilism and you are still betraying your very own principles.]] True to that, if you accept [[spoiler:his]] deal, [[spoiler:all of Joker's teammates will be living in the new reality happily...anyone but him and probably Akechi. At the credits, the snapshot even has Akechi and Joker staring towards you before the picture burns to symbolize it's the end of everything. This means that the decision is so questionable that Akechi and Joker are questioning ''you'': WhatTheHellPlayer]] |
| 228 | * TrailersAlwaysSpoil: |
| 229 | ** Ryuji's character trailer for the UpdatedRerelease ''Royal'' spoils the inclusion of third-tier Personas. |
| 230 | ** Likewise, Akechi's Character Trailer has no qualms showing him dressed in [[spoiler:his Black Mask costume and using Loki. Akechi was only revealed to be Black Mask directly during the events of Shido's Palace.]] |
| 231 | * TraitorShot: After the game gets to the present from the Protagonist's flashbacks, it's revealed who sold him out after Sae Niijima leaves the interrogation room. [[spoiler:Goro Akechi says he's down there to question the Protagonist, but as Sae walks past, he chuckles and says, "Foolish woman," with his in-game portrait looking very menacing.]] |
| 232 | * TransformationOfThePossessed: |
| 233 | ** Humans who have had their MentalWorld messed with by TheConspiracy end up with BlankWhiteEyes and start bleeding sludge-like black blood from their mouth and eyes. |
| 234 | ** When first offered a DealWithTheDevil by their GuardianEntity "other-self", characters gain SupernaturalGoldEyes just like TheHeartless they battle. |
| 235 | * TranslationConvention: Like other ''Shin Megami Tensei'' English dubs, the script behaves as if the characters are all speaking Japanese in-universe, and English is merely being heard for the benefit of the anglophone player. Granted, this does make a few scenes where Ann has to read things that are in English a little odd, since everyone is speaking English... and they need Ann's help with English. There's another scene with Ryuji's glee at a Hawaiian native being able to speak Japanese, despite the player hearing both of them speaking English to each other. |
| 236 | * TrialAndErrorGameplay: During the improvised Okumura fight in ''Royal'', he will have a ''lot more'' stuff coming from him, namely resetting his robot waves every two turns if all four are not killed within that window (And buffing one of the robot's defense to make sure it happens), piling all of the robots on one party member, and a new enemy right after the Execurobo that self-destructs after it's damaged enough. If one does not go in with the appropriate non-offensive moves or Baton Pass tactics, the timer will run out nearly without fail. However, what ''actually'' defines a large portion of the difficulty is that there are no forewarnings before any of these bar the robots piling up on one party member, actually happen. Another point is that the robots can be affected by nearly every status for technical damage and thus can be incapacitated by these conditions. They also don't resist gun, unlike in the original game. Again, none of these are brought up even once in the game's dialogue and it's impossible for the player to know about them unless they read a walkthrough or find it out by accident. |
| 237 | * TriumphantReprise: |
| 238 | ** The Phantom Thieves' "Life Will Change" theme is a faster, more upbeat version of the opening "Wake Up, Get Up, Get Out There" theme. It also replaces the questioning, lamenting lyrics of the opening with a triumphant promise that the singers will change the world themselves. |
| 239 | ** "Our Beginning", the song that plays in the background [[spoiler:as Satanael finishes off Yaldabaoth]], is an epic orchestral rock reprise of both the heroic solo from [[spoiler:Yaldaboath's boss theme]] and "Swear to My Bones". |
| 240 | ** "Life Will Change" gets its own epic reprise as "I Believe" for the new final heist in ''Royal'', calling back to "Life Will Change"'s lyrics, remixing its guitar riff, and adding a "Last Surprise"-esque string backing. [[spoiler:It plays again as the Phantom Thieves hold off Adam Kadmon to allow Joker to deliver the finishing blow]]. |
| 241 | * TroubledTeen: Subverted, the protagonist character was blamed for abusing a woman and from that point, gains a reputation for being troubled and reckless when what ''really'' happened was that he protected the woman from a drunk man, a drunk man who was also a powerful politician. Also subverted with the most of the cast that have reputations, but are otherwise well-adjusted. |
| 242 | * TruthInTelevision: Futaba's sleeping habit before joining the team, falling asleep suddenly and for long periods of time, actually is a symptom of heavy depression, although Futaba's is exaggerated for comedy and plot reasons. People who suffer heavy depression can become fatigued, drowsy, or otherwise tired without any outside input depending on what mental state they're in, to the point of being able to sleep in a state that a healthy person would consider impossible, such as after they've gotten a full night's rest with daylight clearly visible. |
| 243 | * ATwinkleInTheSky: In the escape from the pyramid dungeon, Ann throws Morgana so high into the air it results in Morgana temporarily disappearing in a tiny flash of light before landing at the base of the pyramid. |
| 244 | * TwoTeacherSchool: Subverted. In the first arc of the game, it appears the only two named teachers at the school are StarterVillain Suguru Kamoshida and your homeroom teacher (and eventual Confidant) Sadayo Kawakami. However, ''all'' your teachers end up showing up in PopQuiz sections, and even have {{Character Portrait}}s. |
| 245 | [[/folder]] |
| 246 | |
| 247 | [[folder:U]] |
| 248 | * UncommonTime: The intro to the final boss's battle theme is cut into measures of length 4/4 + 5/4 + 4/4 + 4/4, which can alternatively be written as 17/4. |
| 249 | * UndergroundMonkey: Subverted. On [[PreexistingEncounters the field]], enemies are slightly retextured versions of two or three enemies- often a man, a woman and a dog. For instance, the first dungeon only has a knight in silver armor, and a nearly identical knight with a golden armor texture and plumed helmet. [[ActuallyFourMooks In battle]] however, the enemies are all custom models from several decades of ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'' designs, with only a few palette swaps, such as Slime and Black Ooze or Tam Lin and Cu Chulainn. |
| 250 | * UnexpectedlyRealisticGameplay: Shock, Freeze, or Frighten your enemy to knock them down? Great! However, don't expect to be able to negotiate with them in that state. For less debilitating ailments, like Burn, the Shadows will have to put themselves out first before they can talk it out. |
| 251 | * TheUnfought: |
| 252 | ** While Medjed is built up to be a serious threat, the real objective of that chapter is to help Futaba, who deals with them by herself in one scene, memorable only in that she's so focused on crashing their network that she's oblivious to Morgana trying to talk to her, leaving him and the protagonist to pass what appear to be hours by cleaning her pigsty of a room. As revealed late in the game, Medjed's fall was planned to be staged to make the Phantom Thieves popular - and the real defeat took the Conspiracy by surprise - so they were never truly going to be fought in the first place. |
| 253 | ** The Thieves consider stealing Mishima's heart late in his Confidant chain when it looks like he's becoming a problem, although Ryuji has reservations. Rather than fight his Shadow, though, Joker decides to talk to it and convinces him to change on his own. |
| 254 | ** There are several ''really'' corrupt people in various confidant arcs that Joker can drive away simply by progressing their confidant, including Sugimura, whom the party only kills his Cognition in Okumura's Palace and the real person fades away at the end of Haru's Confidant without any confrontation. Another is Yamauchi from Ryuji's confidant, who leaves Ryuji and the Track Team alone without being fought at all, since Ryuji decides that he's their problem. |
| 255 | * UngratefulBitch: The protagonist saves a woman from being assaulted, only for the woman to speak against him due to her boss telling her he'll blame her for engaging in money laundering on his orders. She's also considered one InUniverse before her boss's true identity/connections are established late in the game, and Yusuke even lampshades this trope, saying that the woman sounds quite horrible [[DirtyCoward in her own way]], too. It's justified however in this case as her boss is [[spoiler:''Shido'', which means that even the slightest damaging of his ego will result in him retaliating with extreme levels of DisproportionateRetribution. She would most obviously ''not'' want to be a part of this]]. Thankfully, during the protagonist's time in [[spoiler:juvie, his friends eventually find the woman and get her help in freeing the protagonist thanks to having changed the hearts of Shido ''and'' the public, subverting it in the end.]] |
| 256 | * UniqueProtagonistAsset: The Protagonist has the unique "Wild Card" ability, that lets him change his GuardianEntity at will and recruit Shadows to his cause. Somewhat Subverted when it turns out [[spoiler:The Black Mask, or Goro Akechi, {{The Conspiracy}}'s DragonWithAnAgenda,]] has the same power, although [[spoiler:since he seemingly can't utilize it to any potential at all, the protagonist remains the sole true Wild Card.]] |
| 257 | * UnmovingPlaid: In the traditionally animated opening, the plaid pattern present on Joker, Ryuji, and Ann's uniforms is static. This is a stylistic choice, as the plaid used for traditionally animated cutscenes both looks different and matches the characters' movements. |
| 258 | * TheUnreveal: |
| 259 | ** InUniverse: [[spoiler:[[DoNotAdjustYourSet As part of their broadcast hijack]] to deliver Shido's calling card]], the Phantom Thieves reveal their appearances, but all of them are silhouetted. Joker's "face" reveal doesn't reveal much either since it's just an extreme close-up on his DominoMask. |
| 260 | ** In ''Royal'', there are several hints that Jose is working for some mysterious, otherworldly person or force, with him stating right before his OptionalBoss fight that he promised "someone" to study humans before immediately telling the Phantom Thieves to forget he said anything about it. When pressed on the issue of who he's working for and what, exactly, he is he dodges the question by stating "You'll find out someday." This might lead one to assume that Jose's employer would be a large reveal, but it's never brought up or revealed during both ''Royal'' and ''Scramble''. |
| 261 | ** Madarame's Treasure takes the form of the real "Sayuri" painted by Yusuke's mother. When the group examines the painting after the Palace, Joker can ask if "Sayuri" was her name, to which Yusuke will respond that it wasn't; Madarame changed the painting's name to prevent anyone from tracing its true origin. In ''Royal'', [[spoiler:in Maruki's dream world, Yusuke displays the painting in a gallery under its original name, but the player never actually gets to learn what it is.]] |
| 262 | * UnspokenPlanGuarantee: Justified. Anything involving the Protagonist's plan to [[spoiler:fake his death and expose Akechi and his boss]] isn't shown until the Protagonist is putting it into motion. This is because the Protagonist was heavily drugged, thus he legitimately did not remember that [[spoiler:there was a plan until the last minute, and the game fades to white before any scenes involving the plan. In fact, a few crucial mistakes can trigger the interrogation room bad ending, where Sae ends the interrogation and Akechi comes in to murder the protagonist before he can remember what he's supposed to do.]] |
| 263 | * UnstableEquilibrium: In the Tycoon minigame in ''Royal'', players who scored the lowest in the previous round (the Beggar and Poor) are forced to trade some of their highest cards to those who scored highest in the previous round (the Tycoon and Rich). This makes it easy for the first round's Tycoon to sweep the later rounds, but there's a catch: the "bankruptcy" rule means that if the Tycoon doesn't place first in the next round, they automatically become the Beggar. |
| 264 | * TheUntwist: |
| 265 | ** In-Universe, most of the Confidants find out the player is a Phantom Thief, and treat it as this, casually revealing that they've known for a while during their rank 10 scene, generally as a result of the antagonist of their Confidant having a change of heart after Joker asked for the person's name. [[IntrepidReporter Ichiko Ohya]] in particular laughs at how obvious it is. |
| 266 | ** Also in-universe, none of your party members are actually caught off guard by [[spoiler:Akechi's]] betrayal; nor is [[spoiler:Shido]]. |
| 267 | * UnusualHalo: [[GodIsEvil Yaldabaoth]], the BigBad and GreaterScopeVillain of the game, sports a halo above his head that is made of angelic wings linked through a ring. [[spoiler:The player's Ultimate Persona, [[DarkIsNotEvil Satanael]], sports a similar halo made of bat / demon wings]]. |
| 268 | * UrbanFantasy: The game revolves around high school students in contemporary Tokyo who can summon an AnthropomorphicPersonification of their respective psyches that take the forms of various fictional and mythological figures, so monsters bearing the appearance of demons and gods are fought both with melee weapons and modern firearms. |
| 269 | * UpdatedRerelease: ''Royal'' follows ''VideoGame/Persona4 Golden's'' footsteps. Let's run down the list. New characters? (Marie in ''Golden'' and Kasumi, Maruki, and Jose in ''Royal''). Check. New story content taking place during the original's TimeSkip? Check. Redemption arc for the traitor? Check. An expanded ending and epilogue? Check. More endings, both good and bad? [[OverlyLongGag What do you think?]] On top of that, all of the DLC costumes and Personas from the original release are now included in the main game. |
| 270 | * UselessUsefulSpell: |
| 271 | ** Hama and Mudo have even less utility compared to previous games – as always, they're somewhat inaccurate (70-80%) and are {{One Hit Kill}}s, meaning the enemy is either killed or completely unharmed. This game features more typical attack spells in the light and dark elements with high accuracy, meaning you can reliably deal damage and more easily exploit weaknesses instead of gambling. This is somewhat mitigated by the fact that the instant-kill spells are more accurate against an enemy with the right weakness. |
| 272 | ** Several skills in this game offer a bonus when the party is being ambushed. For instance, Cornered Fang grows stronger, and the Adverse Resolve or Last Stand passives increase critical or evade rate, allowing you a better chance at breaking out of an ambush. However, the stealth mechanics make it very easy to not get ambushed – not to mention that getting ambushed also means your party is likely to get killed immediately – and so reduces their usability. The worst of all goes to Thermopylae, a skill that buffs all stats of the whole party in one turn for less than half of the cost it takes to do it in 3 the normal way, but can only be used while being ambushed, meaning it's useless in boss fights (except against [[{{Superboss}} the Reaper]]). On top of that, enemy Shadows may have those skills and can use them to their fullest to ruin your day. |
| 273 | *** ''Royal'' gives all Persona traits that can be inherited, one of which is "Vitality of the tree" which allows you to use skills as if cornered, thus Thermopylae and other "cornered" skills have a useful niche. |
| 274 | ** The Life Drain and Spirit Drain skills steal an enemy's health or SP respectively and heal you for the same amount. Unfortunately, that amount is a pathetic 30 HP or 10 SP, making them too weak to bother with after the first Palace. What's worse, when enemies use them, they hit for 150 HP and 50 SP instead, which actually ''is'' powerful enough to be significant. |
| 275 | ** This trope is otherwise {{averted|Trope}}, as usual for the ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'' series. Although status effect spells are useless against the major plot-relevant bosses, they have surprising accuracy (even the slightly less accurate all-targeting versions still hit most of the time). And as it turns out, many of the bosses in Mementos ARE vulnerable to ailments. And, as veteran SMT players know, stat buff and debuff spells have a very large effect, are 100% accurate, and can't be resisted by any enemy, making them absolutely vital. |
| 276 | * UselessUsefulStealth: The opening tutorial seems to suggest that stealthing past enemies can be a viable strategy when it forces you to hide until an agent talking on his cell phone leaves, but in actual gameplay sneaking past enemies will deprive you of experience, money, and items. Not only that, but stealth also slightly alters a Shadow's patrol path such that they won't walk past your hiding position, only turning around once they get close. Unless you're running dangerously low on SP, stealth is primarily useful for ambushing enemies. |
| 277 | ** The feature has been improved in ''Royal'' -- while hiding, you can now manually toggle between your next hiding spot, some of which will be behind a Shadow's patrol path. This lets you slip by any dangerous-looking enemy or sneak to safety in a pinch. |
| 278 | [[/folder]] |
| 279 | |
| 280 | [[folder:V]] |
| 281 | * VacationEpisode: Your ClassTrip involves the party traveling by plane out of Japan to ''Hawaii''. |
| 282 | * VaguenessIsComing: Igor repeatedly mentions the "coming ruin". Good luck getting anything solid from him about what that "coming ruin" actually entails. |
| 283 | * VariableMix: In ''Royal'', Mementos gets all new music from the third area onward that increases in intensity the deeper you go. [[spoiler:The Path of Da'at unlocked in the third semester combines both the old and new music themes.]] |
| 284 | * TheVeryDefinitelyFinalDungeon: Assuming that you've reached the path to the [[spoiler:True Ending, the final dungeon is Qliphoth World, where Yaldabaoth is starting to overlay his Palace onto the real world]]. In ''Royal'', [[spoiler:there is one more dungeon that follows: Maruki's Palace, accessible in the third term]]. |
| 285 | * VictoryPose: Party Members not only have various poses they strike after winning a battle, but unique splash screen poses that'll pop if an All-Out attack they initiated wiped out the enemy party: The Protagonist tightens one of his gloves and pops a SlasherSmile, Ryuji does a devil horns {{Hand Signal|s}}, Ann does a {{V Sign}}, Morgana does a ChairReveal with a cigar, and so on. |
| 286 | * VictoryQuote: |
| 287 | ** Your party members will randomly drop various lines when you enter the battle results screen. |
| 288 | --->'''Ann:''' Total victory, yay! |
| 289 | --->'''Makoto:''' Don't forget this feeling! |
| 290 | --->'''Akechi [[spoiler:(Black Mask)]]:''' Just trash after all... |
| 291 | ** If you win with an All-Out Attack, you also get a quote in the background of the character you were controlling when you won. |
| 292 | --->'''Joker:''' THE SHOW'S OVER\ |
| 293 | '''Ryuji:''' FREAKIN' BORING\ |
| 294 | '''Ann:''' OMG! We are SO awesome!\ |
| 295 | '''Morgana:''' MISSION ACCOMPLISHED\ |
| 296 | '''Yusuke:''' IT WAS FUN WHILE IT LASTED, GOODBYE\ |
| 297 | '''Makoto:''' JUSTICE HAS PREVAILED\ |
| 298 | '''Futaba:''' GIT GUD[[note]]''Royal'' only; activates randomly as part of her Persona's unique trait.[[/note]]\ |
| 299 | '''Haru:''' Adieu\ |
| 300 | '''Akechi (Crow):''' [[spoiler:MY SOLE INTEREST IS IN UNCOVERING THE TRUTH.]]\ |
| 301 | '''[[{{Superboss}} Justine & Caroline]]:''' DON'T BE SO COCKY\ |
| 302 | '''Kasumi ([[spoiler:Sumire]]):''' Beauty is Devotion[[note]]''Royal'' only[[/note]]\ |
| 303 | '''Akechi [[spoiler:(Black Mask)]]:''' I DECIDE THE TRUTH[[note]]''Royal'' only[[/note]]\ |
| 304 | [[spoiler:'''[[{{Superboss}} Lavenza]]:''' DON'T BE SO NAIVE[[note]]''Royal'' only[[/note]]]] |
| 305 | * VideoGameCrueltyPotential: |
| 306 | ** During a Hold Up, if you have unlocked Yoshida's Diplomacy skill, you can ask enemies to give you more money or items than they've already given you or just commence an All Out Attack. If you're lucky you can, for example, make a Shadow give you large sums of money in exchange for sparing them, only to kill them anyways. |
| 307 | ** Since Mishima's Confidant ranks up every time you spend time with him, you can feel free to choose the more sarcastic/insulting conversation options without fear of the Confidant taking longer. His Confidant has more of those options than most others, giving you many opportunities to choose them, some of which Mishima arguably deserves. |
| 308 | ** One event on 5/16 involves Morgana pretending to be a stuffed toy to ride the subway without being caught. To sell the illusion, Joker has to press down on his head to make him meow; he can choose to [[VideoGameCaringPotential pet him gently]]... or he can "button mash" and repeatedly pet Morgana on the head hard. |
| 309 | ** One notable ''Royal'' example of this could happen during the Kamoshida boss fight, during one segment [[spoiler:Cognitive Shiho]] appears and to make matters worse Morgana encourages you to fight her and she is weak to physical attacks. With that said you can turn this segment into the [[VideoGameCaringPotential opposite direction]] by strictly attacking Kamoshida and deal at least 300 damage to make her retreat. |
| 310 | * VideoGameCrueltyPunishment: |
| 311 | ** Failing to complete a dungeon [[spoiler:or betraying your friends to Sae]] will result in you getting a BadEnd, [[spoiler:all of which end with you getting [[BoomHeadshot shot in the head]]]]. |
| 312 | ** If you enter the women's bathroom in the second half of Madarame's museum Palace, a female Shadow {{Mook}} will be waiting to get a surprise attack on you. |
| 313 | ** Most Confidants allow you to be an utter jerk to them via the dialogue options. However, these options tend to grant less affinity points if chosen, making them much harder to rank up than if you're simply nice to them. |
| 314 | ** In ''Royal'', [[spoiler:Shadow Wakaba will mention negative things about Futaba.]] Agreeing with her will delay the ballista from 3 turns to 9 turns. Prolonging the battle further than it logically should will have her cast a Megidolaon out of nowhere which will most likely instantly kill you. |
| 315 | * ViewersAreGoldfish: During dinner, Sae snaps at Makoto and calls her useless. Ann calls Makoto useless too a scene later. Cue flashback to Sae calling Makoto useless, even though it happened a couple minutes ago. |
| 316 | * ViewerFriendlyInterface: Mostly averted - almost all of the screens in-game have realistic-looking interfaces, and if what they're displaying is relevant, the cast will speak it aloud for the player's benefit. Played straight with the messenger app, however, which has [[https://i.imgur.com/iR0UMKI.jpg somewhat unrealistically-large text with every contact conveniently having a uniform avatar of their face to let the player know who's saying what]]. Being as it fits the bright red color motif and bringing it up shows Joker's hand as being in a sketchy, chalk white style, however, it's implied the app doesn't ''really'' look like that, and instead takes this appearance as an out-of-universe HUD element. |
| 317 | * VillainBall: TheConspiracy get hit with this concerning [[spoiler:their plan to kill Joker]]. They could've found out about [[spoiler:the Phantom Thieves faking his death much earlier if they hadn't just taken Akechi's word for the apparent suicide and actually made sure that there ''was'' a body. Even the coroner didn't bother to enter the interrogation room after Akechi and simply wrote the death certificate.]] |
| 318 | * TheVillainMustBePunished: Joker and Ryuji are hesitant to act against Kamoshida because they're worried about the effects that stealing his Treasure will have on him. But once a female student that Kamoshida abused ([[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil and possibly raped]], though the game doesn't explicitly confirm it) [[DrivenToSuicide tries to kill herself]] in front of the whole school, they decide that Kamoshida needs to be punished for what he's done, not just stopped. Ann even goes so far as to consider deliberately killing him, though she stops [[CruelMercy because she decides that being forced to live with the knowledge and guilt of his crimes would be worse]]. |
| 319 | * VillainousBreakdown: The CallingCard is meant to elicit this, forcing your target to be confronted by their twisted desires and, in turn, causing a shift in cognition that makes the treasure materialize in such a way that it can be pilfered. Doing so also causes security in the Palace to be automatically maxed out - in the vanilla game, it's set to 99% due to 100% security booting you out of the Palace, but ''Royal'', not having that restriction, does set it to 100%. |
| 320 | ** Out of the three Palace Rulers whose confessions we actually get to see, mainly due to how public their confessions are, Madarame's takes the cake. Even one of the bystanders watching the conference in Shibuya notes that the guy is crying ''way'' too much. |
| 321 | * VillainOverForDinner: {{Sympathetic Inspector Antagonist}}s like Sae and Akechi will show up at Cafe Leblanc for coffee throughout the story. For Akechi, this is actually a part of his Confidant[[spoiler:, but only in ''Royal'']]. |
| 322 | * VillainSong: The new final boss theme for ''Royal'' is sung from [[spoiler:Maruki's point of view, trying to convince the Phantom Thieves to surrender to the dream world he created]]. |
| 323 | * TheVillainSucksSong: |
| 324 | ** The entirety of the main battle theme "Last Surprise" is dedicated to mocking the enemy that whatever plan they came up with was going to be torn to pieces. |
| 325 | ** "Life Will Change" has some elements of this, particularly in the second verse. |
| 326 | --->Aint' it a shame?\ |
| 327 | I'm not a figment\ |
| 328 | Of your ailing old mind\ |
| 329 | I'm just as real as\ |
| 330 | I'm just as dangerous\ |
| 331 | As you will soon find\ |
| 332 | A taste of your own meds\ |
| 333 | Fire in every breath\ |
| 334 | Fire inside your head\ |
| 335 | Your heart\ |
| 336 | And as your crippled brain\ |
| 337 | Tries to fight in vain\ |
| 338 | Your empire will fall apart |
| 339 | ** The ''Royal''-exclusive battle theme for ambushes, "Take Over", mocks the enemies for having played themselves right into the Phantom Thieves' trap, and that beating them will be no more difficult than a dance. |
| 340 | * ViolationOfCommonSense: |
| 341 | ** One of the best strategies to fight [[{{Superboss}} The Reaper]] (that doesn't involve the flu season in vanilla ''Persona 5'') is to let him ambush you on purpose. It sounds like a dumb thing to do because it gives The Reaper a free turn at the start of the fight, but if the party is capable of tanking his opening move, this makes the rest of the battle a lot easier because of two reasons: First, Ambushes work under their own turn rules, meaning that The Reaper will be able to move only once per turn ''instead'' of going twice in a row after the party's first turn. And second, it allows the protagonist to use the skill Thermopylae, something that it isn't possible for any other BossFight in the game, to buff all three stats for the whole party in just one turn. |
| 342 | ** The most commonly recommended trick to fight Okumura in ''Royal'', where he would otherwise be dreadful to engage normally? Turn the difficulty up to Merciless. This actually makes sense, since the fight revolves attacking the weak points of several waves of robots and chaining them into Baton Pass combos. As Merciless increases the damage dealt to weak points by x3.0, this ensures that the robots will go down that much faster. |
| 343 | * VirtualPaperDoll: The ability from ''[[UpdatedRerelease Persona 4 Golden]]'' to equip your party members with different sets of clothes returns. Unlike in that game, though, the costumes are DLC, some paid, others free. |
| 344 | * VitriolicBestBuds: |
| 345 | ** Ann and Ryuji. While they can give each other a hard time, they're much closer and more affectionate friends than Yukari and Junpei or Chie and Yosuke from the previous games. |
| 346 | ** Ryuji and Morgana have this dynamic as well; it actually becomes a plot point. When Morgana's insecurities and uncertain origins are exacerbated by Futaba taking over his role as navigator, he begins to take offense to the flippant comments Ryuji is prone to making and is genuinely hurt, while he usually gives as good as he gets. This eventually comes to a head and Morgana temporarily leaves the group, feeling he's no longer wanted or needed. |
| 347 | ** Futaba and Yusuke. The former likes needling the latter, while the latter often responds in kind, but Yusuke's one of the first thieves who manages to have an actual conversation with the highly introverted Futaba. That said, Makoto once tells them to cut out their bickering over IM during a particularly tense time. |
| 348 | [[/folder]] |
| 349 | |
| 350 | [[folder:W]] |
| 351 | * WakeUpCallBoss: |
| 352 | ** The Archangel midway through Kamoshida's Palace is the first boss that's able to use Charge to drastically increase the damage of its next physical skill. If you're not careful, it can easily one-shot you, especially on higher difficulty settings. |
| 353 | ** Shadow Kamoshida/Asmodeus is the first real boss of the game and demonstrates that boss fights are going to be a lot more complex than previous games. First, you have to figure out that you need to take out his cup or he'll just heal himself. Second, he can buff his attack, allowing him to hit for very high numbers, teaching the importance of buffs and debuffs. Third, both veterans and newcomers will be introduced to special operations, forcing them to learn how to keep up the offensive against the boss with a reduced party. |
| 354 | ** The Nue midboss in the middle of Madarame's palace is fought only with the protagonist and Ryuji available. If you've been diligent with keeping a good spread of skills on your Personas, the fight should not be very difficult. But if you've been over-reliant on Ann and Morgana for debuffs and healing respectively, the fight can catch you in a difficult position, as you'd have to sit through a few cutscenes if you need to reload to better prepare yourself. |
| 355 | ** Shadow Madarame/Azazel starts the fight as four separate parts that you have to defeat more or less simultaneously, in order to expose his real body. Each part gets a turn and they each have their own resistances and attacks. The first time isn't too much trouble, the second time though, the boss gains a new attack that gives a random party member a weakness to every attack, which you can definitely expect the boss to exploit, and any living parts will use up their turns to resurrect downed parts if you don't take them all down at once. This makes him an annoying boss even on ''safety'' difficulty. |
| 356 | *** Subverted in ''Royal'', where he becomes much easier since he never regenerates the painting once it is fully destroyed and instead summons clones of himself that can be spammed for One Mores if hit correctly. The clones repel the wrong attacks and will attack you instead of Madarame himself, who has no attacking moves. He even summons clones with status effects and/or at very low HP if his HP is low enough. |
| 357 | ** There is an Arahabaki in Madarame's Palace in ''Royal'' defending a Will Seed. This Shadow is ''extremely'' dangerous since it has very high HP, repels all physical attacks just like what you expect on an Arahabaki and can use Brain Jack. If anyone is hit by Brainwash, it can even use Mapsio to cast technical damage. |
| 358 | ** Kaneshiro in ''Royal'' is nothing like you see in the base game: he now starts ''inside'' the Piggytron and only fights on foot once it is destroyed. Unlike in the previous game, he is much stronger and is shielded by two bodyguards. To make things worse, he constantly casts sleep-inducing conditions and uses gun attacks on asleep party members for technical damage. It basically teaches you that you have to use status effects sometimes, as both Kaneshiro and his bodyguards are susceptible to them. |
| 359 | ** Okumura in ''Royal'' will punish anyone who hasn't properly learned the importance of non-damaging skills. The fight is a TimeLimitBoss, and every mechanic is designed to stall out the timer. First, instead of just replacing whoever's defeated, Okumura summons his Corporobos in uniform waves. If the wave isn't completely cleared out in two turns, then the wave is reset. Second, Okumura now uses buffs and debuffs more often, like using Rakukaja and hunger to make sure at least one robot survives until the wave reset, using Marakunda to make the Corporobos hit harder. Third, the battle is heavily dialogue ridden, which eats up precious seconds even with fast-forwarding. Finally, there's one more battle after the last Execurobo before you can finish off Okumura, which can trip up players who thought they still have time to spare or who are on their last legs. The battle requires a proper understanding of buffs, debuffs and status ailments (which the enemies are now vulnerable to) or else running out of time is a very real possibility. |
| 360 | * WakeUpGoToSchoolSaveTheWorld: Your party spends their days going to school and their afternoons and nights reforming corrupt adults and trying to dismantle a criminal conspiracy. |
| 361 | * WaterWakeup: This is how Joker is woken up at the start of the game by the police interrogators. [[PoliceBrutality They proceed to beat a confession out of him.]] |
| 362 | * WhatIsGoingOn: The usual reactions for the protagonists when first entering the Metaverse is complete and total confusion. |
| 363 | * WeaksauceWeakness: In vanilla, [[{{Superboss}} The Reaper]] is vulnerable to being inflicted with Despair during Flu Season. Since Despair prevents the victim from acting, drains SP every turn, and kills the target at the start of its third turn if it isn't healed, that results in a free victory. |
| 364 | * WeaponForIntimidation: How the concept of gunplay introduces itself into the game; on your second venture into Kamoshida's Palace, after reaching the first [[SavePoint safe room]], Ryuji reveals that he planned ahead and got some medicine and a toy (if incredibly realistic-looking) gun in the hopes that you could scare enemies off with it. However, given the manner in which the [[YourMindMakesItReal cognitive world works]], the model gun can hit as hard as a real gun as long as the Shadows believe it's the genuine article. The Hanged Man Confidant gives you the ability to modify the guns to look ''even more'' realistic, which makes them more powerful and effective in the cognitive world. |
| 365 | * WeCannotGoOnWithoutYou: If the protagonist is defeated during battle, the game ends, even if your party members are at full health. The reason is that if you die before 11/20 it means the drugs Joker was injected with knocked him out in the current time; [[spoiler:[[DisasterDominoes which means that Sae leaves him and then you get shot in the head by Akechi]]]]. In the current timeframe, you just [[spoiler:lose Yaldabaoth's game. By the third term, you end up accepting Maruki's reality.]] |
| 366 | * WeHaveBecomeComplacent: A major theme throughout the game, wherein the Japanese population has grown complacent and uncaring of the world around them. People who are seen as "deviants" are ostracized, while the general public is only concerned with keeping order. [[spoiler:This is illustrated by the Prison of Regression in the depths of Mementos, where the public's collective subconscious has locked itself into a massive prison, preferring to stay safe under tyranny than to make choices for themselves. Conversations with the prisoners show their disillusionment with life, and their belief that nothing they do can cause things to change.]] |
| 367 | * WellDoneSonGuy: |
| 368 | ** Akechi lived his entire life feeling unloved and unwanted, and the primary motivation behind his actions is to gain the respect of his [[spoiler:deadbeat father, Shido, before backstabbing him and exacting revenge for ruining his life.]] |
| 369 | ** Takeishi feels pressured to follow in his father's footsteps and graduate from Taisei. Because of that, he ends up going along with Yamauchi until he realizes that Yamauichi plans on [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness getting rid of him when he's no longer useful]]. |
| 370 | * WeWouldHaveToldYouBut: When Sae asks why the Phantom Thieves didn't upfront tell her that [[spoiler:Akechi was working for a conspiracy that was using the Metaverse to commit crimes, the Thieves reply that 1) Sae wouldn't have believed them and 2) they needed Sae in the dark for their plan. Sae counters that they are correct and accepts that the story is too unbelievable.]] |
| 371 | * WeakBossStrongUnderlings: There are two examples among the [[ArcVillain Palace Rulers]]. |
| 372 | ** [[TheDon Junya Kaneshiro]], especially in his updated boss fight in ''Royal''. While he possesses some offensive skills, he's barely a mid-boss level threat on his own, which is why he relies on [[HumongousMecha Piggytron]] at first, and later two hired bodyguards who can [[DrawAggro intercept attacks aimed at him.]] The bodyguards hit much harder than he does too, although [[OnlyInItForTheMoney they'll abandon him if he's no longer able to pay them.]] |
| 373 | ** [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Kunikazu Okumura]] takes this to extremes. He relies entirely on his [[FlunkyBoss robot workforce]] to pose a threat in his boss fight, only providing the occasional buff or order in support. Once they're all gone, Okumura himself goes down in one hit from any decently powerful attack. |
| 374 | * WhamEpisode: |
| 375 | ** While the game establishes that its DarkerAndEdgier than previous entries early on, its Shiho's suicide attempt that brutally drives the point home for many players, showing that this game is ''not playing around''. |
| 376 | ** Kunikazu Okumura's death, which breaks Haru's heart, lands the Thieves in hot water with the authorities since it seems like they were responsible, tanks their public support, and leads to revelations that TheConspiracy is much more powerful than the Thieves imagined. |
| 377 | ** October 26th, wherein Akechi reveals he [[spoiler:knows the identity of the Phantom Thieves and blackmails them into letting him join.]] |
| 378 | ** The entire sequence of events after the story finally catches up to the present day. [[spoiler:Goro Akechi]] was a traitor and he tries to [[spoiler:kill the Protagonist after Sae's interrogation]]; however, the Thieves were suspicious of [[spoiler:him from the start and bugged his phone, meaning that they already knew of his plans.]] It turns out [[spoiler:Joker's capture was part of a risky GambitRoulette to convince Sae to join the good guys, use the Metaverse to fake Joker's death, and figure out who the leader of the conspiracy is.]] |
| 379 | ** The confrontation with [[spoiler:Akechi]]. He reveals that he's [[spoiler:Shido's bastard son]], and he's been [[spoiler:causing mental shutdowns and psychotic breakdowns]] on his behalf so he can [[spoiler:set him up for a fall]]. However, even more surprising than that, it turns out that he has [[spoiler:''a second Persona'' and that is the power that he uses to induce the psychotic breakdowns]]. And at the end of it all, just when the Thieves seem to be [[spoiler:giving him a second chance, he seemingly sacrifices himself]] to save the Thieves from an army of Shadows. |
| 380 | ** The ''whole'' final arc from December 23 to December 24 is this. After defeating the [[spoiler:supposed BigBad Masayoshi Shido, things aren't going right. The public simply StoppedCaring to an insane degree, followed by Shido's popularity raising to uncanny, cult like levels, something that Makoto describes as "like being in a Palace".]] On the next day, [[spoiler:everything becomes even worse -- when the party ventures to the Depths of Mementos, it turns out that the members of the public willingly subjugated themselves to MoreThanMindControl, none of the targets you faced before got a proper change of heart and were merely becoming one with the masses, and the Depths' security are so sophisticated that it couldn't possibly be ran by the public. Finally, when the party reaches the bottommost floor of Mementos, the Treasure reveals itself to be a PhysicalGod who was orchestrating the events -- up to manipulating your circumstances to make sure everything goes the way he wants to. Your whole journey, unlike in ''Persona 3'' and ''Persona 4'' is a ''farce'' up until this point]] |
| 381 | ** After [[spoiler:the Holy Grail fuses reality with Mementos and causes the Phantom Thieves to disappear]], Joker is brought to the Velvet Room where Igor [[spoiler:orders Caroline and Justine to execute him for failing to complete his mission. While there were signs that something was up with Igor beforehand, this move is definitely out-of-character, and it sets in motion a chain of events that reveals that the Igor you've been dealing with for the entire game is in fact the Holy Grail in disguise, having imprisoned the real Igor and split his attendant into Caroline and Justine.]] |
| 382 | ** Akechi's Rank 6 Confidant in ''Royal'' sheds a significant amount of light about exactly ''why'' he ended up like he was in the base game; [[spoiler:committing mass murders and treason for Shido just to ruin him when he ever gets inaugurated.]] It turns out that [[spoiler:his mother was a call girl who was heavily implied to accidentally become pregnant with Akechi when she had a one-night stand with Shido. When she conceived him, she took whatever part time job she could to take care of him, and before she took any customer for her nightclub, she sent Akechi to the bathhouse. It turns out that she did take care of Akechi for a while, until she was shamed and offed herself as stated by him in the base game.]] |
| 383 | ** During the Star Confidant, the confrontation with Hifumi's mother Mitsuyo's Shadow reveals that she isn't just trying to use Hifumi's career as a stepping stone to make Hifumi an idol (all so that Mitsuyo can live vicariously through her daughter)- she even fixed several of Hifumi's matches to ensure her rise to fame. |
| 384 | ** In ''Royal'', the events directly after [[spoiler:the final battle with Yaldabaoth act as this. Joker approaches Sae and prepares to turn himself in just as in the base game... But if certain conditions are met, then Akechi reveals himself, having somehow survived the standoff with his cognitive self in Shido's palace, and offers himself up in Joker's place. Joker, now exonerated from his false criminal record, spends Christmas at Leblanc, spends a quiet evening with his romantic interest (if he has one), and celebrates New Year's Eve with the gang, [[HopeSpot and the game seems set to end on a happy note]]... Then Joker has a strange dream where he follows a butterfly through the darkened halls of Shujin while in the prisoner outfit he wore in the Velvet Room. After he wakes up, goes downstairs, and speaks with a blue-eyed stranger who apparently knows him, Futaba walks in wearing a beautiful yukata she got to visit a shrine... And the first thing out of her mouth is your first hint that ''something is '''very wrong'''''.]] |
| 385 | --->'''Futaba:''' [[spoiler:[[WhamLine I picked it out with my mom]].]] |
| 386 | *** The entire initial investigation of the new Palace during the third semester as well. Not only rock-solid proof that [[spoiler:"Kasumi Yoshizawa" is a ''mockery'' began to show up]], your friendly [[spoiler:counselor Takuto Maruki has taken up a mission to make everyone in the world happy and painless by means of his Palace and research lab and is now causing stagnation via this utopian plan.]] He then proceeds to show you [[spoiler:literal damning evidence that "Kasumi" is actually her younger sister Sumire, and the real Kasumi tried to prevent Sumire's jealousy-induced fit that nearly caused her to be ran over by traffic, only for Kasumui to die instead. Then, overriden with survivor's guilt, Sumire's desire to become Kasumi or die grew exponentially more intense. Maruki, being indirectly told this by Sumire during a counselling session, decides to make her think that she really ''was'' Kasumi (because that was the greatest extent of his powers during that point), to rid her of her pain.]] |
| 387 | *** The last surprise twist in ''Royal'' happens to be [[spoiler:sending the Calling Card to Maruki during the 2nd of February, where he reveals to you that Akechi, in some form or way was affected by his "Actualization". While Maruki does not actually tell Joker if Akechi is dead or not, this is a surefire implication that Akechi is ''not'' supposed to be here, and Maruki's actualization made him appear in front of Joker. Then, you may let Joker be coerced by Maruki so you get the same bad ending as the 9th of January. And sure enough, unless during certain conditions where you can see someone who looks like him very briefly for a few seconds post-credits, Akechi vanishes after you take back the true reality.]] |
| 388 | * WhamLine: Lots of them: |
| 389 | ** Only a few minutes into the game, a police investigator is reading the crimes Joker has been charged with [[spoiler:(Joker [[TheReveal isn't really guilty]], [[UnwittingPawn the police]] are following the CorruptPolitician that [[MiscarriageOfJustice originally ruined Joker's life]])]], the last one possibly leaving a doubt as to how heroic our protagonist really is: |
| 390 | --->'''Investigator:''' Obstruction of justice, blackmail, defamation, possession of weapons... manslaughter too, yeah? Talk about the works. |
| 391 | ** During the start of a lesson which also marks Morgana's first appearance in class, the day gets derailed when a student notices something outside... |
| 392 | --->'''Standing Male Student:''' Hey... What's that...!?\ |
| 393 | '''Gawking Female Student:''' Wait... Shiho's going to jump! |
| 394 | ** During the final confrontation with Madarame's Shadow, Yusuke reaches an epiphany that surprises even the party. |
| 395 | --->'''Yusuke:''' I've heard that you destroy your "art" once they [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness outlive their usefulness]]... did that include [[MissingMom my mother]] as well? |
| 396 | ** Memes aside, [[INeverSaidItWasPoison these lines]] indirectly reveal who the true culprit is [[spoiler:- for context, only people who've been to the Metaverse and heard Morgana speak there can understand him in the real world]]: |
| 397 | --->'''Morgana:''' I wanna go to that huge pancake-looking place we passed on the way here!\ |
| 398 | '' A minute later...''\ |
| 399 | '''[[spoiler:Akechi:]]''' Oh, am I mistaken? I thought I heard something about [[spoiler: delicious pancakes]]... |
| 400 | ** It's minor in the grand scheme of things, but when trying to pinpoint Kaneshiro's Palace, the Thieves hit the right answer by accident... and this answer reveals exactly what they're getting into, and just how dangerous he is compared to their earlier targets. |
| 401 | --->'''Yusuke:''' The place that Kaneshiro sees as a bank is ''"all of Shibuya."'' |
| 402 | ** After Morgana breaks away from the Phantom Thieves for feeling useless, he tries to tackle Okumura's Palace alone, but only succeeds in getting himself badly hurt. As he's lying there, Haru (yet-to-be properly introduced at that point) comes across Morgana after having unknowingly followed him into the Metaverse. Her cry of "How horrible!" soon prompts this line: |
| 403 | --->'''Morgana:''' ''(weakly)'' I can't... see... Who's there...? ''Master''...? ''(passes out)'' |
| 404 | ** On October 3rd in ''Royal'', Joker goes to the stadium in Odaiba to find Kasumi and give her back her good luck charm which she dropped. After Kasumi says [[spoiler:Maruki]]'s name, along with some other inconspicuous words, we get the following from her phone, along with a familiar app appearing on it... |
| 405 | --->''[[FinalDungeonPreview Beginning navigation]]''. |
| 406 | ** As the interrogation begins to catch up to the present day, Sae pulls out the last CallingCard that was sent and reveals who the Thieves' last target was. |
| 407 | --->'''Sae:''' This was addressed to "Sae Niijima"...myself. |
| 408 | ** If the player got rank 9 in Maruki's Confidant in ''Royal'', on his last day at Shujin, he invites Joker to lunch and reveals that his paper on cognitive psience is finished thanks to Joker's help, then drops the following bombshell. |
| 409 | --->'''Maruki:''' Please, allow me to express my gratitude to you once more as a most helpful student of Shujin... [[spoiler:[[SecretSecretKeeper and as a phantom thief as well]].]] |
| 410 | ** After the story catches back up to the present, the traitor's identity is at last revealed after a confrontation with Sae: |
| 411 | --->'''[[spoiler:Goro Akechi]], sporting a PsychoticSmirk:''' [[TraitorShot Hmph, foolish woman]]. |
| 412 | *** Followed shortly thereafter by the revelation of [[TheManBehindTheMan the guy pulling HIS strings]]: |
| 413 | ---->'''[[spoiler:Akechi]], on the phone:''' [[spoiler:Shido-san]], my task is complete. |
| 414 | ** During Akechi's Rank 6 hangout in ''Royal'', this line paints a ''much darker'' light on [[spoiler:his childhood, amplifying the tragic side of him that was mostly only implied in the Vanilla game]]. |
| 415 | ---> '''Akechi:''' My mother [[spoiler:worked at a nightclub. Whenever she had to bring a man home]], she'd send me off to the local bathhouse. |
| 416 | ** On the path to the good ending, a cutscene shows the reaction of the Phantom Thieves to [[spoiler:Joker's arrest and apparent "suicide"]]. They are all appropriately concerned and horrified by the turn of events, and then... |
| 417 | --->'''Ryuji:''' You're shitting me.... [[spoiler:[[AllAccordingToPlan We got 'em.]]]] |
| 418 | ** During the game's DarkestHour. |
| 419 | --->'''Igor:''' In accordance to the game's rules, the defeated must pay a price. [[spoiler:Your life is forfeit. I sentence you to be executed.]] |
| 420 | *** If the player's thoughts are that [[spoiler:Igor himself has become distorted]], or other rationalizations, this throws that out of the window shortly afterward: |
| 421 | ---->'''[[spoiler:Lavenza]]''': And to the scoundrel who has [[spoiler:swindled my master's name]], your lies shall work no longer now that my sight has been restored! |
| 422 | ---->'''Igor[[spoiler:?]]:''' The game isn't over yet. |
| 423 | ** In ''Royal'', should all the right conditions be met, a familiar voice is heard after Sae requests Joker turn himself in. |
| 424 | --->'''[[spoiler:Akechi]]:''' There's no need for that. |
| 425 | ** At the beginning of the Third Semester, everything seems pleasant and joyful, with Joker living out his life peacefully with Sojiro in Leblanc. On New Year's Day, Futaba comes in to show off her new kimono, and as she's complemented on it, she casually drops a bomb that things might be ''[[LotusEaterMachine too]]'' perfect... |
| 426 | --->'''Futaba:''' Thanks. I picked it out [[spoiler:with [[BackFromTheDead my mom]].]] |
| 427 | ** During the Third Semester, we have the following about Kasumi and [[spoiler:Maruki]], all in fairly quick succession: |
| 428 | --->'''Girl with tied up hair:''' My younger sister! She should be here in the stadium... Oh, there she is! [[spoiler:...Sumire!]] [[spoiler:Sumire!]] I did it! Both of us have the same dream - to be international champions! |
| 429 | *** After Kasumi is [[spoiler:exposed as Sumire:]] |
| 430 | ---->[[spoiler:'''Akechi:''']] ...The girl known as [[spoiler:"Kasumi Yoshizawa"]] is currently deceased.[[note]]This was actually a mistranslation: The original text says "The girl known as [[spoiler:"Kasumi Yoshizawa"]] is already dead.[[/note]] |
| 431 | *** [[spoiler:Sumire]] explains about [[spoiler:Kasumi's death]]: |
| 432 | ---->[[spoiler:'''Sumire:''']] ... It was last spring... Before I started at Shujin... We were walking home from practice. It happened right there, on that street in the video... [[spoiler:I wasn't looking where I was going... And Kasumi, she protected me from the car... I was saved by Kasumi... I robbed her of her dreams... and even her life!]] I'm [[spoiler:her younger sister, '''Sumire Yoshizawa'''.]] |
| 433 | *** [[spoiler:Maruki]] explains [[spoiler:his role on Sumire's cognition warping:]] |
| 434 | ----> [[spoiler:'''Maruki:''']] Her [[spoiler:real name is Sumire Yoshizawa. She's Kasumi-san's younger sister... But for months now, she's only seen herself as being Kasumi Yoshizawa, her deceased elder sister. Of course it was only her cognition of herself that changed, so to the people around her, she was still Sumire-san.]] |
| 435 | *** [[spoiler:Akechi]] tells Joker about [[spoiler:Sumire]]: |
| 436 | ----> [[spoiler:'''Akechi:''']] It appears you were clueless, but [[spoiler:she was Sumire Yoshizawa from the start.]] |
| 437 | * WhamShot: |
| 438 | ** During the "Maid Investigation", if you didn't recognise the maid's voice and/or the fact that she recognises Mishima and Ryuji by their panicking outside, she turns around to face the camera and her dialogue portrait is pulled up, revealing that she's ''Kawakami''. |
| 439 | ** During the segments when the mini-calendar on the top left fast-forwards to the present, any player would notice the date stops on a certain date once they're getting closer to the day Joker gets captured. [[spoiler:Which is November 20th.]] |
| 440 | ** Near the end of the interrogation, as Sae mentions Joker's latest heist, rather than present a folder like she usually does, she instead [[spoiler:shows him a CallingCard, showing that she was the latest target]]. |
| 441 | ** During the days approaching the 6th Palace, Sojiro is watching a news report about the Phantom Thieves concerning the death of Okumura. If you didn't see it at first glance, the game shows that Sojiro found Futaba's calling card. |
| 442 | ** The cutscene entering [[spoiler:Sae Nijima's]] Palace for the first time places the thieves a good distance away from the actual palace, in a minimally distorted area of the Metaverse. Then the camera pans up to show a familiar-looking casino, one that was seen at the game's beginning. |
| 443 | ** The TraitorShot, wherein [[spoiler:Goro Akechi]] suddenly obtains a much, much more sinister-looking dialogue portrait than all of their previous ones. |
| 444 | ** When the crew enters [[spoiler:Shido's Palace]]; it at first looks the same as reality sans the locked gate, and their clothes haven't yet changed... until the camera pulls out to reveal [[spoiler:the Diet Building on the deck of a ship, afloat in a sea that has sunken Tokyo]]. The music especially assists hammering home its impact. |
| 445 | ** Akechi using a [[spoiler:shadowed Persona that ''isn't'' Robin Hood to turn nearby Shadows psychotic, soon followed by his summoning Loki, revealing that he's ''another Wild Card user''.]] |
| 446 | ** Near the very end of the game, when Morgana [[spoiler:returns to Leblanc and his dialogue portrait is replaced with that of his housecat appearance, conveying that he's lost his humanoid form.]] |
| 447 | ** During the first investigation to the Palace in Odaiba, you, Akechi and Kasumi go in and see images of a Kasumi [[spoiler:with brown hair and a beauty mark around her left eye. It's pretty obvious that the "Kasumi" you met is an imitation, while the real one is the aforementioned girl and she's DeadAllAlong.]] |
| 448 | ** You also don't know who owns the Odaiba Palace...[[spoiler:and it turns out that it's your friendly counselor Takuto Maruki, who only wants to bring blind happiness to the world.]] |
| 449 | ** Additionally, during the third semester events you will also know that [[spoiler:Sumire entrusted Maruki with the knowledge that she would rather die than keep living as Sumire if she were unable to become Kasumi, resulting in him deciding to "fix" her depression by making her believe she is Kasumi, effectively going right against what "Kasumi" told Akechi in the cafe hangout event - Kasumi's belief that one should overcome their difficulties by their own merit.]] |
| 450 | ** In TheStinger of the ''Royal'' edition (if certain conditions are met), [[spoiler:as Joker sits in the train, a figure wearing Akechi's clothes walks by, hinting that he's NotQuiteDead.]] |
| 451 | * WhatHappenedToTheMouse: |
| 452 | ** As [[spoiler:Sae never had her heart stolen]], it's unknown what happened to [[spoiler:her Palace after Joker's arrest, though it can be inferred that with Sae's realization of how far her desires have gone, they gradually became undistorted (and thus the Palace went away)]]. [[note]]In ''Royal'', if Joker talks with Jose in Mementos after said events, the latter will become interested in the Crystal of Jealousy, much like the others. Since this conversion is only done after the corresponding Palace is dealt with, it implies that it has indeed gone away.[[/note]] |
| 453 | ** At one point in ''Royal'', Joker and Kasumi visit a mysterious Palace with no apparent owner, only for Morgana to discard it on the basis it's not the Palace they're not looking for. Unless you max out [[spoiler:Maruki]]'s confidant, this Palace is forgotten about for the rest of the game with no explanation given to who it belonged to. [[spoiler:This is because it belongs to Maruki, and maxing his social link is required to access the True Ending.]] |
| 454 | * WhatMeasureIsANonHuman The team is exceptionally cautious to not kill human-shadows because it will kill their human counterpart for sure, but they do not have any problem in hurting and killing thousands of monster-shadows in their way even if they are completely sentient, [[WouldHurtAChild are kids]] or [[WouldHitAGirl Women]], have families, dreams and goals in life. Yusuke outright stated that he doesn't have any sympathy for them. This is like how, in previous games, minor Shadows were generally considered foes to be eliminated. |
| 455 | * WhatTheHellHero: |
| 456 | ** If you enter the women's bathroom in the first half of Madarame's museum Palace while Ann is in the party, she will comment on it and ask you to leave. |
| 457 | ** On a heavier note, if you choose to [[spoiler:accept Yaldabaoth's deal towards the end of the game, Lavenza expresses her disappointment at you. After which she laments that neither she nor the true Igor saw this turn of events coming, and sadly confirming how Joker really is a Trickster.]] |
| 458 | ** In the endgame, if you dated more than one girl at a time, all of the romanceable Confidants will confront you about your unfaithfulness the day after Valentine's Day. |
| 459 | * WhatTheHellPlayer: In ''Royal'', if you accept any of the offers from [[spoiler:Takuto Maruki to surrender to his magic, regardless if he directly proposed it or not, the protagonist will be dissatisfied even if everyone else is enjoying life forever, and during the graduation snapshot, Akechi doesn't look happy and the protagonist looks absolutely pissed off while everyone else sports the brightest smile ever in it. The post-credits snapshot will also feature him and Akechi looking towards you (Yes, YOU) as if they were questioning your actions.]] |
| 460 | * WhatWouldXDo: A variant. When the Protagonist has to [[spoiler:turn himself in so that Shido can be found guilty, the other Thieves imagine Morgana (who they believed to have disappeared with the other world) making fun of them for giving up too easily. This encourages them to find a way to save the Protagonist.]] |
| 461 | * WhatYouAreInTheDark: The Shadows Selves in the Palaces represent the twisted hidden feelings of the respective adults you target. Similarly, when characters' Persona first awaken, they encourage their other selves to ignore society's expectations and unleash their true rage/vengeance/etc. on those who have wronged them. |
| 462 | * WhenIWasYourAge: A recurring theme of the NPC chatter is that the older generations dismiss the complaints of the younger generations, considering them to be too soft or weak compared to when they were younger. This shows up a lot in the Okumura arc. Even after just how bad he's treated his employees is revealed to the public later in the arc, there are a few older folks that treat it as normal behavior for a company. |
| 463 | * WhereItAllBegan: The protagonist first gets the Metaverse app and catches his first glimpse of the Metaverse while traversing Shibuya. In the base game, and in ''Royal'' under certain circumstances, the final palace is located in Shibuya. |
| 464 | * WholeEpisodeFlashback: Of the HowWeGotHere variety. The prologue shows Joker's capture by the police after a recent heist, before backtracking six months to his arrival in Tokyo and the start of his adventures. At regular intervals, the story cuts back to Sae and Joker discussing the events that led up to the current situation. |
| 465 | * WithThisHerring: The game starts with your sum total of equipment being nothing but a knife, a toy gun, a giant toy sword, and a giant toy slingshot. In fact, figuring out how to exploit the YourMindMakesItReal properties of the MentalWorld you're traversing and getting better weapons from a military hobby shop ends up being such a big issue that they get their own {{Sidequest}}. |
| 466 | * AWizardDidIt: Cognition is used to explain a wide variety of different things in the game (and by many folks in the fandom when discussing any inconsistencies in the game's storyline or a character's powers). |
| 467 | * WomanScorned: Cheating on your LoveInterest was already a bad idea in ''P4 Golden'', but doing so here ''will'' result in the girls finding out in the epilogue. [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown It does not end well for Joker.]] |
| 468 | * WontTakeYesForAnAnswer: If you date Haru on Christmas in ''Royal'', then she and Joker will visit a stand looking for Christmas cakes and Haru will comment that it could be a long shot. She then asks the employee if they have any she replies cheerfully that they do, at which point Haru starts to respond sadly that she expected as much, before realizing just what the woman said. |
| 469 | * WorldOfJerkass: The general population is depicted as rather two-faced overall. If someone of note finds success and notability, others will happily sing their praises loudly, however eventually they tend to grow bored and eventually lose interest, or even outright turn around and start treating them horribly if they catch wind of anything negative about them. It happens to be connected to the Metaverse, seemingly creating a vicious cycle, as the distortions in the general public's hearts turns the collective unconsciousness more negative, which in turn causes people to treat each other even worse, which distorts the Metaverse even more. There are those out there who maintain their dignity and humanity, but they are often trodden underfoot by those who would use and abuse them, generally requiring the Phantom Thieves to step in. |
| 470 | * WorthlessTreasureTwist: |
| 471 | ** The treasure from Okumura's Palace turns into a model spaceship he wanted as a boy. Subverted as it turns out to have become a valuable collector's item since then. |
| 472 | ** Later played straight with [[spoiler:Shido's treasure, which turns out to be his legislator's pin]]. As the party points out, a [[spoiler:legislator's pin is worth almost nothing in raw value itself]]. It gets even more anti-climactic when taken into consideration that this is [[spoiler:the BigBad]]'s treasure, perhaps as a minor foreshadowing that his actual confession is no more satisfying. |
| 473 | ** [[spoiler:Sae's]] treasure is also suggested to be [[spoiler:a mere police notebook]], though what it actually is remains unrevealed. |
| 474 | ** Subverted with Kaneshiro's treasure, a golden suitcase filled with obviously fake money, which disappoints the party at first. However, the ''case'' itself is easily the most valuable treasure in the game. |
| 475 | * WrittenSoundEffect: While occasional in ''P3'' and ''4'', they're much more liberally used here, further contributing to the stylish comic book-esque aesthetic. A few examples include groups of chatting people having "Whisper" or "Murmur" written above their heads, Morgana's dialogue in his housecat form being accompanied by "Nya~"s (changed to "Meow~" for the English version), and "BANG!"s filling the screen when Joker uses his Down Shot skill. |
| 476 | * WritersCannotDoMath: Two examples: |
| 477 | ** Madarame took Yusuke in when Yusuke was three years old, and Yusuke expresses gratitude to Madarame for having kept him safe "these past ten years." But Yusuke is a second year student at Kosei High School, i.e. 16 or 17, not 13. |
| 478 | ** Kaneshiro's deadline is July 9th, even though he issued the three-week demand on June 20th, which would actually place it at July 11th. |
| 479 | * WrongfulAccusationInsurance: At the end of the game, Joker is [[spoiler:arrested and sent to juvenile hall due to his past record and confessing to numerous other crimes like breaking into people's houses and hijacking a broadcast signal. However, he's eventually let go with all charges dropped because his friends were able to prove that his initial charge (assault against Shido when he was really trying to prevent Shido from assaulting someone else) was false.]] |
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| 483 | * {{Yandere}}: One of the students at Shujin, Yumeko Mogami, who Joker [[MeaningfulName aptly nicknamed]] the [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Creepy Female Student]], fits this trope to a T. This student also happens to be one of the Mementos targets in early game. |
| 484 | * YearX: Rather than being a specific year as previous games, the in-story calendar is dated 20XX. Though if one correlates calendars, and given other hints in the game (like Rise still releasing albums while not looking ''terribly'' much older than she did in ''VideoGame/Persona4'', and a TV broadcast later stating that she's at least 20), it's pretty clear the game takes place in 2016-2017.[[note]]As a refresher, Rise was born on June 1, 1995; she was 16 when ''Persona 4'' happened in 2011 and doing the math tells you that she'll be hitting 21 in 2016. The game's calendar also matches the 2016 calendar, starting on April 9th, which was a Saturday both in-game and in reality.[[/note]] |
| 485 | * YouAreAlreadyDead: When you perform an [[CombinationAttack All-Out]] [[FinishingMove Attack]] that wipes out the enemy party, the enemies will freeze in place for a few seconds so a member of your party can pop a VictoryPose and drop a BondOneLiner, at which point a GoryDiscretionShot shows the enemies' silhouettes erupting into a spray of HighPressureBlood. |
| 486 | * YouAreFat: |
| 487 | ** Subverted. A lot of players initially thought Yusuke was pointing out Ann's figure when he asked "have you gained some weight?", which caused them to consider if he wasn't as sympathetic as they hoped, and also added to any other initial reactions since Ann is already posing for his painting against her will. Then it turns out Ann is posing under tons and tons of clothing layers! |
| 488 | ** Haru's dickish fiancé plays it straight later in her Confidant. |
| 489 | --->'''Sugimura:''' Why don't you stop by the gym or something, Haru? I mean, if you have time to mess around with this punk, you damn well have time to get a little thinner. |
| 490 | * YouDoNotWantToKnow: Just before sending the calling card to President Okumura, Haru asks why her father didn't seem to include a cognitive version of her in his Palace. Morgana has thought of several possible reasons why, but warns Haru that she may not like them. While this goes unaddressed in the original game, ''Royal'' proves Morgana's point; during the ensuing boss battle against Okumura, he summons a cognitive copy of Haru taking the form of an android assistant that loyally serves his cause, yet once there is nothing left to defend him, he ends up sacrificing it as easily as he does his other workers. |
| 491 | * YouLoseAtZeroTrust: |
| 492 | ** Usually averted. Unlike the previous two games, it is impossible to break or reverse any Confidants, possibly because the Confidants are a business relationship between the protagonist and the NPC in question. Data mining suggests that both reversing ("doubt") and breaking were intended to be possible, with leftover dialogue and images left in the released game. The implications of these remnants indicate that starting Confidant deals and ignoring them for extended periods before you build up enough trust would eventually cause the Confidant to first doubt you (removing Confidant-specific bonuses), then break the deal (removing both Confidant-specific bonuses and fusion EXP bonuses). The largest remaining artifact visible to players of this is Morgana's warnings when receiving phone requests to accept offers to meet from certain confidants[[note]]Wheel of Fortune, Hanged Man, Death, Temperance, Devil, Tower, Star, and Sun[[/note]] until you build enough trust with them, though there is no active in-game penalty from failing to do so. |
| 493 | ** In ''Royal'', accessing the third trimester requires Maruki's Confidant to be Rank 9 before he leaves in November, before sending the calling card to the target of the Casino Palace. This is because [[spoiler:TheReveal about Maruki severely changes his character. He's central to the plot of the third trimester as the Palace Ruler and the creator of the "dream world"]]. If Maruki is not Rank 9 by that time, the third trimester is inaccessible. |
| 494 | * YourMindMakesItReal: The Metaverse is built on the collective unconcious of every sentient being in the world, their Cognition, and the Palaces are formed from the Cognition of its rulers that have been distorted by their own twisted desires. This means that even a toy gun can be used to fire actual ammunition in the Metaverse, so long as it can be ''perceived'' as a real weapon by the shadows there; however, more than this, the Metaverse as a whole can be ''altered'' if one can change the right person's Cognition. Very frequently, the Phantom Thieves are required to alter someone's Cognition in the real world in order to advance their goals in the other world. |
| 495 | ** Just finding a Palace's treasure (the embodiment of the ruler's twisted desires) isn't enough for the Thieves, as the treasure is by default an intangible metaphysical concept; in order to make it manifest itself in a physical form that can be stolen, they send a calling card to the Palace's ruler in the real world declaring their intent to steal it and "change their heart". Once the Palace ruler is made aware that A) their desires are twisted, B) their desires can be ''stolen'', and C) someone is coming to steal their desires, the treasure manifests. However, this effect relies on making the Palace ruler shaken and unbalanced by the perceived threat, and will only last about a day before the Treasure becomes inert again. It also can't be repeated, as the same trick won't make the ruler panic twice. |
| 496 | ** Since Palaces are based on a distorted view of a real place, areas that the palace ruler ''considers'' totally secure will be entirely unopenable in the Metaverse until the ruler's cognition is forcibly changed by gaining access to the area's real-world counterpart in such a way that the ruler perceives them doing it. The first time this happens, in Madarame's palace, the door to an art storage room is locked in the real world [[spoiler:because it's where he's hiding ''Sayuri'' and its copies as part of a scam]] and no one but him has ever entered, so the Thieves have to pick the lock and trick Yusuke inside and be discovered by Madarame, so he no longer thinks of the room as secure. [[spoiler:Futaba, being a shut-in, sees the door to her room as the door to her self-made tomb, and doesn't open until the thieves convince her to willingly open it for them and let them in. Sae sees her courtroom as apart from the general public, much less a bunch of teenagers (her own sister included), so her Palace's security turns them away immediately. The Thieves therefore attend one of her trials in the real world so that she recalls that anyone can sit in on a public trial in Japan, opening the rest of her Palace.]] |
| 497 | ** Kaneshiro considers himself far above everyone in Shibuya, and unconcerned by anyone he isn't currently exploiting, and so his Palace is seen flying through the air, well out of reach of the Thieves. Only after Makoto incurs a 3-million-yen debt with Kaneshiro in the real world, thus making her an exploitation target, does the palace lower itself for them to enter as "customers" of his bank. |
| 498 | ** Mementos is the representation of the collective unconscious. The Thieves are stopped at multiple times in their descent into the depths of Mementos by massive stone doors, and only when they begin to make a name for themselves in the real world, becoming more enshrined in the collective unconscious, do these doors open themselves. |
| 499 | ** One Mementos target cheats in the shooter game ''Gun About'', something he believes makes him invincible in-game, which in turn translates to his shadow being invincible until Shinya Oda shows Joker how to get around his cheating. |
| 500 | ** The Thieves' gamble to out the traitor relies heavily on manipulating Cognition to their advantage. [[spoiler:The plan for Joker to get caught relies on Sae Nijima interrogating Joker personally, during which Joker must convince her to show his phone to Akechi. When she does so, she will inadvertently bring Akechi into Sae's Palace. Specifically, to the police station next door to the courtroom, which while connected to her Palace (the courtroom) because it's part of her work as a prosecutor, is not distorted because Sae has no real power there, unlike the courthouse. Because the Palace is a representation of Sae's Cognition, and she was just in the interrogation room of the police station with Joker, there is a cognitive version of Joker still inside the cognitive version of the interrogation room for Akechi to murder, while in the real world, Sae is convinced to save the real Joker.]] An optional conversation with Futaba afterwards has her mention a small detail that the team didn't consider until the very last minute: [[spoiler:Because Sae had also just seen Akechi entering the police station on his way to murder Joker, Sae's palace would also have a cognitive version of Akechi arriving at the same time, which would tip the real Akechi that there was a plot against him. The other Thieves make a second venture into the Palace to lie in wait for the cognitive Akechi and dispose of him before Sae drags the real Akechi into the Palace.]] |
| 501 | ** Cognition is also weaponized ''in reverse'' by the GreaterScopeVillain. [[spoiler:At the end of the game, Yaldabaoth fuses Mementos with the real world, thus making the Metaverse the true reality. At this point, however, the public had become convinced that the Phantom Thieves weren't actually real, and so since they've disappeared from the public unconscious, the Phantom Thieves suffer a CessationOfExistence in the Metaverse, therefore the real world. They get better though.]] |
| 502 | * YourPrincessIsInAnotherCastle: In ''Royal'''s third semester, the Phantom Thieves assume that destroying [[spoiler:Yaldabaoth]] would destroy Mementos, but TrueFinalBoss [[spoiler:Takuto Maruki]] takes it over instead and you have to change his heart to finish the job. |
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