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16	* [[Literature/TheAdventuresOfPinocchio Pinocchio]] is basically a symbol of lies because [[PinocchioNose his nose grows when he tells lies]], but originally, Pinocchio is not that much of a liar, the growing nose incident only happened twice and a few of Pinocchio's lies did not affect his nose at all. Lies have little focus in the original book.
17	* ''Literature/AliceGirlFromTheFuture'':
18	** In one of the several dozen entries of the series, Alice talks about a dish called brambulet that she can cook herself. The topic is forgotten after a few paragraphs, and brambulet isn't mentioned in any other ''Alice'' books. In fanfics, however, it often becomes practically ''the'' national dish of the bright future and Alice's favorite food in particular.
19	** If you read fanfiction, you might think Rat always calls Alice "Alisochka", the pet form of her name (whether as a TermOfEndangerment or actual AffectionateNickname, depends on the fanfic). Canonically, he only addresses her like that ''twice'' in all their numerous confrontations.
20	* ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}'':
21	** From the constant fanart (and the existence of sites like Blog/CinnamonBunzuh), you might think that all Ax ever does in human morph is eat cinnamon buns. While they are his TrademarkFavoriteFood, that's really only due to them being the one food item that's mentioned most. He [[ExtremeOmnivore eats anything edible]], and a few things that aren't.
22	** He only did it once or twice, but [[DrivesLikeCrazy Marco's driving]] has become a MemeticMutation. To be fair, he was 13 or 14 at the time, in a stolen truck, and [[IKnowMortalKombat had only driven in video games before]].
23	--->''' Jake:''' Do you hate trash cans? Is that it? Do you just HATE TRASH CANS?
24	* A few of the people in ''Literature/TheBible'' have traits they'll never live down. "Doubting" Thomas springs to mind.
25	** Bible researchers have also pointed out that the characters of those who told Thomas weren't impeccable either: John, who had an awful temper, and Peter, who denied Christ thrice.
26	** Pontius Pilatus: washing his hands was basically a way of saying, ''"I don't want to hear about this anymore"''. This is just about the only thing that we hear about ''him'' and it is what he is most remembered for, to an almost TropeNamer level. It's also where the term "wash one's hands of it" came from, meaning to absolve oneself of responsibility or guilt, or to simply not want to discuss something anymore. The fact that the only thing he's known for has become a common part of the English language isn't doing Pontius any favors.
27	** Similarly, Judas for betraying Jesus, leading to his execution. You don't contribute to God dying without paying for it for all eternity.
28	* ''Literature/TheBerenstainBears'': While Mama Bear is usually the [[OnlySaneMan only sane bear]], she has her share of detractors who won't let her live down the scene in "The Messy Room" where she threatens to throw away her cubs' toys if they don't clean their bedroom.
29	* In ''Literature/AChristmasCarol'', Ebenezer Scrooge has become most famous for his '[[CatchPhrase catchphrase]]', "Bah! Humbug!" In reality, he uses this phrase only twice during the entire book. This is to say nothing of the fact that Scrooge has become synonymous with greed and [[TheGrinch anti-Christmas sentiment]], despite the fact that the book is about his redemption from these traits and that such redemption begins taking place almost immediately upon being transported to Christmas Past.
30	* ''Literature/ACourtOfThornsAndRoses'':
31	** Many readers believe that Tamlin's lowest moments i.e. locking Feyre up in his manor and allying with Hybern, define him as a character and that his more sympathetic characterization present in ''A Court of Thorns and Roses'' was just a façade.
32	** Judging by the fanbase's reaction, Rhysand conspiring to keep Feyre from knowing that her pregnancy will probably kill her won't be forgotten any time soon.
33	* The title character of ''Literature/{{Cujo}}'' has undergone MemeticMutation as a label for any frightening, vicious dog. People actually reading the book are likely surprised to find he's actually a BigFriendlyDog who only becomes the killer he's remembered as because of a rabies infection. The epilogue even spells out that he never wanted to hurt anyone and was a victim himself of the disease.
34	* ''Literature/DiaryOfAWimpyKid'': Manny is hated by some for "nearly killing" his family by turning off the electricity in a blizzard while throwing a tantrum. However, intelligent as he is, he is only three years old, so he likely didn't genuinely believe they'd die.
35	* ''Literature/DonQuixote'' is well-known for being an idealistic fool in a cold grey world, a laughingstock, and ButtMonkey. As a result, there's a huge MisaimedFandom that sees him as an ideal to strive for even if he can't win. The original Quixote ''was'' an idealistic fool, but it wasn't his entire character. Both the MisaimedFandom and the people who laugh at him forget that he was also an unsympathetic snob, who used his "knighthood" as an excuse to not pay for things and to bully his social inferiors, especially Sancho. Part of why he isn't remembered this way is the ''Theatre/ManOfLaMancha'', which emphasized his foolish idealism a lot more. ("Dream... the impossible dream...")
36	** Quixote's "battle" with the windmills that he sees as giants in his mind--[[AmusingInjuries which goes about as well as you'd think it would]]--has become the SignatureScene of the novel, and [[HypocriticalHumor any discussion of the novel is all but guaranteed to mention it]]. The incident happens early on in the novel and is particularly memorable for how unreasonable Quixote is acting, but those who then go on to read the novel are usually surprised by how short the scene is, and how the incident is treated as just another one of the Don's misadventures.
37	** In the first part of the novel, Sancho Panza has several scenes enjoying food and drink to show his easygoing nature. When Avellaneda [[{{Fanfiction}} published his own second part of the novel]], he accused Sancho of being a BigEater. In Cervantes’ second part of the novel, Don Quixote’s niece accuses Sancho of this ([[MaliciousSlander she hates him]]) and later, [[OhCrapThereAreFanficsOfUs when they know about Avellaneda’s second part]], Sancho defends himself against this accusation:
38	---> "No, senor, that's not true," said Sancho, "for I am more cleanly than greedy, and my master Don Quixote here knows well that we two are used to live for a week on a handful of acorns or nuts. To be sure, if it so happens that they offer me a heifer, I run with a halter; I mean, I eat what I'm given, and make use of opportunities as I find them; but whoever says that I'm an out-of-the-way eater or not cleanly, let me tell him that he is wrong; and I'd put it in a different way if I did not respect the honourable beards that are at the table."
39	* ''Literature/HarryPotter''
40	** Ginny Weasley has a reputation in the fandom for being [[ReallyGetsAround a tart who can't keep her knickers on]]. In-universe, Ginny dated three guys over a period of four years, none of them all at once, and married the last one. Interestingly, Hermione has also dated three guys, one for [[OperationJealousy rather petty reasons]], and no one accuses ''her'' of being a slut.
41	** There's Dumbledore, who was gay. He did some other stuff, but mostly, he was gay. You can understand why Rowling didn't insert this fact into the books since Dumbles' primary characteristic since the WordOfGay announcement is that [[RuleOfThree he was gay]]. Man, people who refuse to read a sentence from the books or watch one minute of the movies are more likely to know that than any other detail, despite the fact that Dumbledore's sexuality was implied in the last book but never outright stated.
42	*** There are the lemon drops, mentioned twice in the first book. In fanfics, every dialogue with Dumbledore seems to start with "Care for a lemon drop?"
43	*** Also for Dumbledore is the very odd accusation that he is [[BestialityIsDepraved overly fond of goats]]. This is [[InsaneTrollLogic based on the fact that his]] ''[[InsaneTrollLogic brother]]'' cast an "inappropriate" charm on goats, and even then it was just an aesthetic change to their horns.
44	*** To an extent, his reputation of always blatantly showing favoritism toward the Gryffindors which he only does it once at the end of the first book when he awards extra points to the house at the last minute.
45	** Draco Malfoy is often called "ferret", "ferret boy," or some form of that insult in the fandom, referring to an incident in which Mad-Eye Moody turns Draco into a bouncing ferret. In the book, there is not much mention of the incident after the fact.
46	*** There is one instance where Hagrid threatens to turn a misbehaving Malfoy into a ferret, although that's just ''one'' instance. But honestly, "Draco Malfoy, the Amazing Bouncing Ferret" became memetic for the absurdity of the thought alone.
47	** Ron generally has a reputation with [[BaseBreakingCharacter certain segments of the fandom]] who regard him as TheLoad, a GreenEyedMonster, and an idiotic JerkAss. In the books, Ron was more laid-back and certainly not as driven as Hermione, but it was mentioned that he and Harry did about equally well in their classes (Harry was mostly ''forced'' to learn extra things to save his own life). And BelligerentSexualTension aside, there was never any indication that Ron was or would be abusive towards Hermione, or indeed that he'd be capable of it if he wanted to be. The worst he ever did was when he [[spoiler:abandons Hermione and Harry in ''Deathly Hallows'', and that was done in a moment of anger, after enduring MindRape by the horcrux, and he wanted to return immediately, only to be foiled by circumstances. And his first act upon returning was to rescue Harry from drowning in a frozen pond.]] There's a reason why he's the TropeNamer for [[RonTheDeathEater a canonically good character becoming a massive jerk in fan works]]. It doesn't help that the films tended to portray him as being dumber and more cowardly than he was in the actual books and all for the sake of cheap laughs, which then rippled over into the books a little bit.
48	** James Potter won't live down [[spoiler:being a jerk to Snape]]. People who've suffered bullying in the past would see James as a spoiled brat that got everything handed to him while Snape had to suffer his whole life. They also completely ignore that Snape (according to [[UnreliableNarrator Sirius Black who hated him]]) gave as good as he got and even went so far as to use Dark Magic to slash him across the face (albeit in self-defense), while the worst thing James did to him was hang him upside down and pants him. They also forget that Lupin and Sirius mentioned that James grow up out of the bullying in his last years in Hogwarts.
49	** On a related note, Snape as a child/teen is usually remembered as a weak loner who's bullied left and right and was tragically rejected by [[spoiler:Lily Evans]]. Rarely do people mention his TeenGenius status in regards to Potions and the Dark Arts, nor do they mention the fact that he had other friends besides [[spoiler:Lily]], all who became Death Eaters upon graduation. A flashback even shows him defending his friend Mulciber after [[spoiler:Lily]] tells Snape he used Dark Magic on one of their classmates, claiming it was [[MoralMyopia "just a bit of fun".]]
50	*** In an paradoxal note: a large part of the Fandom will never forget he is a SadisticTeacher and the fact his bullying of Harry is due to wanting to take revenge against James Potter. And nobody will forget he is Neville's worst fear. This trope is the reason of why he is BOTH DracoInLeatherPants and RonTheDeathEater in fanfiction. People only Remember the best or the worst part of who he is and not for the JerkassWoobie he really is
51	** Professor Slughorn to some degree. Many fans will still see him as just another example of a bigoted Slytherin, due to his surprise at a Muggleborn being more skilled than a Pureblood. This ignores the fact that he's genuinely appreciative of his favored students, especially Lily, and expresses genuine regret regarding [[spoiler:telling Voldemort about how to make Horcruxes.]]
52	** Then there's Professor Binns, the ghost who teaches History of Magic. His most memorable scene involved him droning about the Goblin Rebellion. Now, many HP fanfictions contain scenes that take place in class, and if it's History of Magic? You can bet Binns will be talking about goblins.
53	** For as much of a general NiceGuy as the eponymous character is, fans still tend to give him flack for his {{Wangst}} in ''[[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheOrderOfThePhoenix Order Of The Phoenix]]''.
54	** The books' publishing company, Bloomsbury, will always be the people who insisted the first book's title be changed to "Sorcerer's Stone" in America, giving them a reputation of thinking Americans are a bunch of morons who would never pick up a book unless the title promised it was about magic.
55	** While Rowling has become infamous in recent years for her repeated, oftentimes nonsensical, {{Retcon}}s about the lore of her world, the reveal that wizards used to [[ToiletHumour poop and pee where they stood]] and magicked it away is one of the most notorious, and is what people who have grown disgruntled with Rowling and the franchise turn to.
56	** On a more serious note, it's hard to talk about the series without mentioning Rowling's rabid transphobia
57	* Chances are, if you haven't read ''Literature/TheHitchhikersGuideToTheGalaxy'' you're only going to know one thing about it: 42, the meaning of life. Which it isn't, by the way; it's the answer to the great Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything, so it's utterly meaningless unless you know them both. Despite a generation of bored mathematicians and conspiracy theorists attempting to prove him wrong, the author insisted all his life that 42 was simply a number he grabbed out of the air and found amusing. It doesn't help that Stephen Fry likes to troll people about this, saying he'll take the "real" reason to his grave.
58	* Perhaps it's safe to say that Johanna of ''Literature/TheHungerGames'' fame won't be living down ''[[NakedPeopleAreFunny stripping down naked in an elevator]]'' while simultaneously casually chatting with Katniss and Peeta any time soon.
59	** Or Katniss agreeing to [[spoiler: the Capitol Games]]. Some people ignore the fact that [[spoiler: she was ''acting'' in front of President Coin.]]
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63	* Good luck finding a hater of the Literature/InheritanceCycle who doesn't notice the HoYay. Constantly. Admittedly, even the people who [[GuiltyPleasures like the books]] notice this too.
64	** Same goes for ''Literature/EndersGame'' (there was ''one'' fight in showers, OK? ''One'' fight!), though considering Creator/OrsonScottCard's [[HeteronormativeCrusader recent activities]], it's hard to feel bad for him.
65	* ''Literature/{{It}}'': Bev has sex with the rest of the Losers Club after defeating It. Whether it was evidence of Bev's abuse manifesting itself in questionable sexual development, a scene about the fears and uncertainties of adulthood, or Creator/StephenKing just being on drugs; it is an incredibly awkward scene and [[Film/It1990 both]] [[Film/It2017 adaptations]] cut it. The scene is quite infamous when discussing Bev and the story in general and when the 2017 film came out a number of King's more malicious critics tried to use it as evidence that he was or was enabling child predators.
66	** King himself will probably never live down the idea of his "writing while flying high on cocaine". He has been drug-free since the early '90s. For that matter, people tend to blame the (perceived) weak ending of ''Literature/TheStand'' and the rather rambling plot of ''Literature/TheShining'' on King's drug habit, when in fact he wouldn't have serious drug problem until the '80s. He did, however, have a drinking problem early on.
67	** The list of things King may never live down is pretty long, but one would be remiss not to mention the supposed idea that the latter half of his career has consisted of unreadable dreck that even his fans can't stand. Some even blame his being hit by a car for "destroying his creativity". In the opinions of those who have actually read his post-accident output, he's written some of this best work since then, including ''Literature/DumaKey'', ''Literature/ElevenTwentyTwoSixtyThree'', ''Literature/DoctorSleep'' and ''Literature/{{Revival}}''. Many of the novels held up as "proof" of his later work being awful generally include ''Literature/RoseMadder'' or ''Literature/{{Insomnia}}'', two books that are actually from the '90s and pre-accident, or they will bring up ''Literature/{{Dreamcatcher}}'' and ''Literature/{{Cell}}'', which he wrote years apart, and are only two books out of his post-accident period.
68	* ''Literature/LittleWomen'':
69	** Amy March burns Jo's book manuscript as a child, is chosen by Aunt Carrol to go to Europe instead of Jo, and marries Laurie, whom [[FanPreferredCouple countless fans consider Jo's soul mate.]] For these three reasons, she's been subjected to a century and a half of RonTheDeathEater.
70	** Professor Bhaer criticizes Jo's writing. Never mind that he doesn't criticize the ''quality'' of her writing, only the genre of sensation stories, and that Jo never really liked writing in that genre, only doing it for money. Never mind that in the book (though some adaptations are different), he never even criticizes ''Jo's'' stories specifically – he disparages the genre without revealing that he suspects Jo writes in it. Fans still harp on the fact that he "criticizes Jo's writing" as a reason to [[FanPreferredCouple ship Jo with Laurie instead.]]
71	* Isildur from ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings''. He was a total badass who did many great things. Chief among them, he actually [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu defeated]] Sauron, admittedly with his father and Gil-Galad having done most of the work. However, all many readers seem to remember him for is not destroying the ring, which meant Sauron could return. What makes this an especially glaring example is that ''no one could have done any better.'' Frodo is the next person to be in a position to destroy the Ring and makes the exact same choice. According to WordOfGod, no one has enough willpower to actually destroy the ring.
72	** In the movie version, this is compounded with Isildur only defeating Sauron with a desperate swing of his sword that luckily cut Sauron's ring finger off (after which Isildur retrieves the Ring), followed by Isildur refusing Elrond's urging to destroy the Ring. In the book, there is no mention of Elrond taking Isildur to the Cracks of Doom and it's unknown whether or not he ever told Isildur to destroy the ring.
73	* ''Literature/TheCampHalfBloodSeries''
74	** Yes, in ''Literature/PercyJacksonAndTheOlympians'' Nico [[spoiler: summoned the dead with Happy Meals]]. Yes, and Thalia torched New England too.
75	** Yes, in ''Literature/TheHeroesOfOlympus'', Nico was [[spoiler:gay for Percy]].
76	* ''The Pet Goat'' gained enormous amounts of attention as the book UsefulNotes/GeorgeWBush was reading when 9/11 happened.
77	* ''Literature/RamonaQuimby'': Ramona is most known for cracking an egg on her head by accident, squeezing out a tube of toothpaste, throwing up in class, and wearing her pyjamas to school under her clothes.
78	* While Literature/SherlockHolmes used cocaine in more than a couple of stories, he was an addict, not of that drug, but of mental exercise. His brain had to be constantly working or else it would "rebel." When on a case or any other activity that he would consider mentally challenging, he would stop using for as long as his brain was entertained. If one only knew Holmes from fanfics and pastiches (professionally published fanfics), he turns into a drug-addicted genius who needs a constant high to function. In such stories, his drug of choice is usually changed to opium for whatever reason, even when it was specifically stated in the canon that he doesn't do opium. This is also carried over to more official adaptations.
79	** Playing on the [[ILoveYouBecauseICantControlYou only-woman-to-outsmart-Sherlock-Holmes]] angle, all adaptations portray Irene Adler as a notorious [[DatingCatwoman Catwoman-like]] criminal mastermind, despite her only "crime" in [[OneSceneWonder the one story she appears in]] being possessing a photograph that someone fears she could use to blackmail him... which she ultimately never does. Perhaps it's just easier to put Holmes' WorthyOpponent on the opposing side of the law.
80	** Also the BreakoutVillain Moriarty, who encountered Holmes once in person and also sent him a letter once, but is only ''ever'' remembered as 'Holmes's ArchEnemy'.
81	* ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'':
82	** Catelyn Stark, who is otherwise a kind and caring mother and a woman with a strong sense of honor and duty, is often remembered for being a stone-cold, callous bitch due to her poor treatment of her husband's [[HeroicBastard illegitimate son]] Jon Snow: [[spoiler:her son lies unconscious, forever a cripple, and in a moment of mad grief, she tells Jon (who is also grieving and worried for his half brother), "It should have been you," before breaking down in tears]]. She never lives that one down, it seems. It's a big KickTheDog moment, but let's be perfectly honest: who ''doesn't'' get one of those in this series? It doesn't help that it's one of the ''first'' things readers see her do and as such, something like this tends to stand out.
83	*** Oh, and in the first book she [[spoiler:arrests Tyrion Lannister for a crime he has been completely innocent of]], and by sheer luck (and some power of his wits) he gets out of the mess alive. Justified since she [[spoiler:feels she can trust her childhood friend Littlefinger who implicated Tyrion]], not having realized how much he has changed over the years, and the crime in question was [[spoiler:attempted murder of her already crippled son]], so she isn't thinking too clear on the matter. Nevertheless, her mistreatment of not one but ''two'' fan favorites has built her quite a reputation in fanon. For instance, if in fanfics any of her children are paired with any one of the Lannisters (or their bannermen, or any of the Starks' enemies), in most cases expect Catelyn to [[LoveObstructingParents oppose the match with all her might]], up to threats of disowning her children, no matter how much in love the couple is and how politically profitable the marriage can be.
84	** Similarly, Sansa Stark, Catelyn's daughter, is largely defined by her naivety and ignorance in the first book, and forever characterized as TooDumbToLive and HorribleJudgeOfCharacter. Granted she did make some idiotic mistakes, chief among them believing [[{{TheSociopath}} Joffrey]] was her prince charming, betraying her father's escape plans to [[{{GodSaveUsFromTheQueen}} Cersei]] and not backing up Arya about Joffrey attacking the butcher's boy. (Which gets the boy and Sansa's own direwolf killed). However, fans seem to forget she was only an ''eleven-year-old girl'' coming from a sheltered upbringing, with parents who totally failed to prepare her for the dangers of court. Despite the subsequent hell she goes through, and becoming much savvier and less idealistic, the vitriol against her is worse than that against some villains. Her case isn't helped by being a {{Foil}} for her little sister Arya, a scrappy, tomboyish underdog who manages to be a better judge of character than her parents and older siblings put together, and is frequently bullied by Sansa.
85	* Richard Rahl, protagonist of the ''Literature/SwordOfTruth'', once led his troops to cut through a peace protest staged by TooDumbToLive [[StrawCharacter political strawmen]] to get to the villains they're guarding, during the book that even fans acknowledge is [[FanonDiscontinuity best ignored]]. The key word here, of course, is "''once''". A good chunk of the times it's mentioned on this wiki, though, it's phrased to make it sound like he spends all eleven books doing nothing but slaughtering pacifists.
86	** The infamous scene in which the demonic entities are first introduced... [[{{Narm}} as a chicken]].
87	---> "This looked like a chicken, like the rest of the Mud People's chickens. But this was no chicken. This was evil manifest."
88	* ''Literature/TheThreeMusketeers'' only say "All for one and one for all!" ''twice'' in the original books; most adaptations have them saying it all the time. Then again, [[InformedAttribute they do claim it is their motto]].
89	* ''Literature/TortallUniverse'':
90	** Alanna from the ''Literature/SongOfTheLioness'' suffers from a similar reputation, despite having had relationships with a grand total of three guys in her life, each of them long-term and serious, one of which became a marriage. Yet that's still more than any of Creator/TamoraPierce's other protagonists (except Briar in the ''Literature/CircleOfMagic'' universe), so she gets stuck with a Slutty [=McSluttington=] image in some readers' minds. (The books were banned from a few school libraries as a result of her supposed sexual promiscuity, which probably didn't help.)
91	** ''Literature/TheImmortals'' has one positive and one negative. The good: Daine and her '''rampaging zombie dinosaurs'''. The bad: hooking up with Numair when he's 30 and she's 16. Although Alanna/George had an eight-year age gap and he was declaring his love for her while she was still a teenager, they were both still adults by modern standards, and it didn't push TeacherStudentRomance squick buttons. The outcry was so great that Pierce promised never to have such a wide age gap again.
92	** Pierce herself has this with the ''Literature/BekaCooper'' book ''Mastiff'', which went over with her fans like a lead balloon and was largely seen as a shocking quality drop from a usually great author.
93	* ''Literature/{{Twilight}}'' may be popular for other things, but now thanks to the movie, everyone associates the entire saga with [[BishieSparkle sparkly]] [[OurVampiresAreDifferent vampires.]]
94	** ''Baseball-playing'' sparkly vampires.
95	** The sparkly vampires were already infamous (at least among {{Fan Hater}}s) before the movie, but the movie definitely compounded it.
96	** [[FanHater Fan Haters]] now have the HoYay between Edward and Jacob.
97	** And of course, Jacob imprinting on Edward and Bella's newborn daughter, leading to many accusations that he "wants to fuck a baby" despite that not being ''quite'' what really happens (he waits until she's a physical adult before making a move). Though the whole subplot is still creepy enough that it even overshadows what would probably otherwise be a pretty infamous sequence in its own right where the superstrong unborn fetus breaks Bella's spine and Edward performs a c-section with his teeth, something that caused a genuine push to have the film adaptation be directed by David Cronenberg.
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