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6	You're watching your favorite adventure series. A group of plucky kids snoop around the place, get into exciting situations, and even get into danger and need to be rescued. And in the end, a cop arrests the criminal the kids were after. Supposedly, the kids didn't even help the police at all.
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8	Suddenly it dawns on you. The main characters aren't that useful! They did all the cool stuff (basically, get into all the danger), yet [[NonProtagonistResolver someone else ultimately stopped the bad guy and saved the day.]] What the heck? Why even bother with these "heroes" and their adventures?
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10	Because this is a story where the main attraction, if not the very point, is to watch ordinary people get into all sorts of excitement and danger. Yet they can't ultimately thwart the villain or solve the problem, because, well, that's not their job, nor do they have the actual skills for it.
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12	This is a way to get kid characters (or average, non-professional adult characters) into an exciting adventure while providing the realism of showing the real police or other professionals doing their jobs and saving the day. Note that despite the title, this doesn't have to be about young characters specifically; this is about when the ''main'' characters, regardless of who they are, are not the ones who save the day (though CharacterDevelopment ''does'' happen). Also note that the full story of the defeat of the bad guy may be available ''elsewhere'', simply not at this particular story we are reading. In that case, the villain was defeated by a HeroOfAnotherStory.
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14	See also LittleHeroBigWar, which is kind of this on a much larger scale, and with the hero having a larger chance of being the one who actually defeats the villain. Often if the main character pads a lot of the story failing to succeed it's because WeAreTeamCannonFodder.
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22	* While ''Manga/CaseClosed'' is all-but ''married'' to AdultsAreUseless and PoliceAreUseless most of the time, it played this trope completely straight on at least one occasion: [[spoiler:the Ayumi kidnapping case]]. The police catch the actual criminal off-screen, while Conan and friends wind up "busting" [[spoiler:two guys putting on a play]].
23	* ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'': A downplayed and subverted example occurs after [[spoiler:Katsuki Bakugo]] is kidnapped by the League of Villains during an attack on U.A.'s summer camp. While All Might, the rest of the pro heroes, and the police are capable of handling the bulk of the confrontation with the League (enough that Bakugo's student rescue team, which consists of [[spoiler:[[TheLeader Midoriya]], [[OddFriendship Todoroki]], [[TheLancer Iida]], [[TheHeart Kirishima]], and [[TeamMom Yaoyorozu]]]]) don't need to face them in combat, their split-up in Kamino Ward and reveal of [[spoiler:[[BigBad All For One]]]] ultimately turns the tide of the rescue mission back in the League's favor. Luckily, [[spoiler:despite their terror at the situation, Midoriya is able to come up with a successful plan to swoop in and grab Bakugo, allowing All Might to go all out in fighting All For One]].
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27	* ''ComicBook/UltimateMarvel'':
28	** ''ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan'': The Rhino is on a rampage in the city. Peter tries to leave the school to go and stop him, but several things conspire to keep him there: May shows up, Gwen is crying in the dumpster, Flash attacks him, etc. By the time he finally gets to the crime scene, Rhino has been defeated by [[ComicBook/TheUltimates Iron Man]].
29	** ''ComicBook/UltimateMarvelTeamUp'': When Spider-Man visits the Fantastic Four, he accidentally releases a Skrull invasion. He puts up a fight, but the Skrulls are finally defeated by Reed Richards.
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33	* ''Fanfic/AdventuresOfALineHopper'' is a {{Crossover}} that strictly adheres to both series' canon, so characters from the ''Franchise/{{Buffyverse}}'' are always unable to make any serious impact upon any preestablished events from ''Franchise/DoctorWho''. The same also applies in reverse.
34	* PlayedWith in ''Fanfic/DelendaEst''; Rose, Leo and their young friends are able to assist Harry and Bellatrix from time to time... mainly because they're the only other people who know the truth about the Ghost of Ashworth. Dumbledore also speculates that their youth makes them easier to manipulate than adults would be.
35	* ''Fanfic/DigimonAdvent'': When the young heroes attempt to stop Medusamon and Sastrugamon by themselves, [[spoiler:Darren and their digimon get turned to stone]], causing Kai to suffer a HeroicBSOD. Later on, [[spoiler:Laelapmon]] is almost killed by Ikkakumon when Amy's plan to hold them back as a safety measure fails.
36	* ''Fanfic/LaBelle'': While the amateur investigation that Bowser organizes starts off solid enough, it gradually crumbles under the combined weight of everyone's stress, finger-pointing, and the lack of any real ''evidence'' after [[spoiler:Ganondorf]]'s death. However, [[spoiler:things turn around when Soren and some of the Brawl newcomers arrive at the mansion and offer new insights into the murderer's methods]].
37	* ''Fanfic/SugarPlums'': The SelfInsert protagonist finds herself reborn into the world of ''Franchise/{{Naruto}}''... in the village of Kirigakure. Not only were the events that shaped Kirigakure into what it is not well covered in the original series, the majority of its issues stem from things that happened ''decades'' in the past, which have been perpetuated ever since. As a result, she and her companions find that there's very little that low-ranking shinobi like themselves can do to improve their circumstances, much to her ongoing frustration. This starts changing once they catch up to where the ''Naruto'' series began (as the first eighty-plus chapters cover a period of five years before the manga).
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41	* In ''Film/TheThirteenthWarrior'', main character Ahmed Ibn Fahdlan is a useful extra swordsman but doesn't actually do anything to resolve the plot, with the single exception of figuring out how the group can escape from the Wendol cave. Of course, since the story is really about Bulliwye/Beowulf, this is understandable. Ahmed also figured-out that the Wendol liked to act, and maybe even think of themselves as bears, and this allowed the group to find the Wendol cave to begin with. However, he is mostly an audience identification character and eventual chronicler of Bulliwye/Beowulf, so he still fits the trope well.
42	* In ''Film/TheDesperateHours'' a family is taken hostage. They have two or three perfect escapes foiled by the same kid. In one they get outside, find the kid missing and see he's still in the house at gunpoint. This kid also mouthed off to the bandits with something like "Oh, yeah? Well, when my father gets to his gun which is in the drawer right there ..."
43	* ''Film/ForestWarrior'': Downplayed. The sheriff and his deputies (with Austene's father tagging along) get both a court order to stop the logging operation and an arrest warrant for the crooked bosses. They would have been able to enforce them even without the kids setting out to sabotage and delay the loggers. However, Thorne and his men had a couple hours' head start and were going to start cutting down trees right away, so the kid's actions are necessary to prevent ''any'' environmental harm from happening, but the villains still would have been stopped before accomplishing much.
44	* ''Film/GodzillaVsKong'': Team Godzilla (Madison, Josh and Bernie) spend their side of the story investigating Godzilla's rampage and learning what Apex Cybernetics are really up to, but they end up functioning like a FirstPersonPeripheralNarrator: the audience gradually uncovers Apex's plans through the trio's eyes, and once we've gotten all the answers, Team Godzilla get caught by the bad guys. [[spoiler:{{Downplayed}}/{{Subverted}} entirely in the climax, when Josh and Bernie being in the right place at the right time thanks to Madison bringing them into the investigation, leads to Josh using Bernie's flask to disrupt Mechagodzilla's satellite uplink at a ''pivotal'' moment. If the disruption hadn't caused Mechagodzilla to stall when it did (as it was seconds away from driving its drill weapon into Kong's skull whilst Godzilla was too exhausted to effectively fight it further), then Mechagodzilla would have most likely killed Kong, then Godzilla, then it would have gone on to do [[OmnicidalManiac whatever it wanted]]]].
45	* In ''Film/{{Goldfinger}}'', the role of James Bond in the plot is actually rather limited. He spends most of his time tailing Goldfinger and hanging out in his base as a prisoner, always ''trying'' to get intel outside, but failing. [[spoiler:Sure, he does manage to kill both Goldfinger and Oddjob, but that doesn't affect the plot very much, and the bulk of the work ends up being done by the US Army and the CIA. They even disarm the nuke for Bond. The only vital thing Bond does manage to do is, ironically enough, screwing Pussy Galore (who then performs a HeelFaceTurn and sabotages Goldfinger's "grand slam")]].
46	* True, to an extent, for ''Film/RaidersOfTheLostArk''. If Indy hadn't been there to battle the Nazis, would the ending have been much different? [[spoiler:Maybe a little. The flying wing was going to take the ark to Berlin, so if Indy hadn't interfered, it might have been opened in front of the top Nazi brass, thus killing Hitler and ending the war early.]]
47	** Marion probably would have been killed for the headpiece without Indy.
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51	* Generally averted in the ''Literature/AToZMysteries'' series, but played straight in the book ''The Canary Caper''. This story revolves around a series of pet kidnappings ultimately solved by the police. Even when the three main kids discover a pattern in the kidnappings, Officer Fallon says they already made the connection. The kids hide outside the thief's next victim, but the police show up before they can even catch the petnapper.
52	* ''Literature/BoysLife'': Cory spends ten months gradually forming suspicions and looking for clues about a murder, but the same day he solves the case, two Nazi hunters who would have quickly found the killer without his help arrive in town and even end up helping save him from a likely HeKnowsTooMuch fate, [[spoiler:although Dr. Lezander briefly escapes and meets his end through other means.]]
53	* ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'': ''Literature/GuardsGuards'' has the Watch figure out who the Supreme Grand Master is, but it is implied that [[TheChessmaster Vetinari]] was already aware of what was going on, and the Watch are ultimately useless in getting rid of the Dragon - [[spoiler: Errol ends up defeating it by creating a sonic boom, which was part of his mating dance to the female dragon]]. Their investigation for the first half of the story is already invalidated: firstly, by the audience knowing about the Brotherhood's antics; and second, by the Brotherhood getting killed shortly before the Watch learn that they were behind it. Of course, [[spoiler:Errol]] was in a position to do so because [[spoiler: the Watch had adopted him and let him eat assorted random stuff for a good chunk of the book.]] In other words, the Meddling Kids weren't ''useless''... it just turned out the useful thing they did was [[SubvertedTrope something else other than the snooping and the getting into exciting situations]].
54	* Despite having the most screen-time in ''Literature/GoodOmens'', NobleDemon Crowley and the pragmatic angel Aziraphale have no effect on the main events of the story, though not for a lack of trying. Arguably though, having [[spoiler:Armageddon be averted by humans only, without angelic or diabolical help]] was the whole point. Really, most of the rather large cast is like this--the final battle pretty much comes down to the Them vs. the [[HorsemenOfTheApocalypse Horsepeople]]. [[OccultDetective Shadwell]], [[NotSoPhonyPsychic Madame Tracy]], [[PsychicPowers Anathema]], [[UnluckyEverydude Newton]], and [[DemonLordsAndArchdevils Ligur]] all turn out to be pretty pointless, not even counting other characters who had died/disappeared from the plot by this point. (Admittedly Newt's presence might have contributed, it's kind of unclear if the Horsepeople's defeat stopped the nukes or just made it possible for him to.)
55	* In the original, 1920s ''Literature/HardyBoys'' stories, Frank and Joe's "investigation" often ended up with them hiding in a corner or [[BoundAndGagged tied up by the villains]] until their father and the police force arrived to save the day. This was eventually changed in the later books to make them more useful.
56	* Similar to the above example, in ''Janie's Private Eyes'', the fourth book in ''Literature/TheStanleyFamily'' series, while 13-year-old David, 8-year-old Janie and 6-year-old Blair actually do solve the case, they end up in danger and have to be rescued. Fortunately, someone else calls the police and rescues the kids, resulting in the police solving the case without the help of the kids' hard work.
57	* ''Literature/JohnPutnamThatcher:'' Downplayed in ''Murder to Go.'' Thatcher ''does'' expose the killer, but the ending reveals that the police would have almost certainly closed the case without his help. They secretly zeroed in on the culprit several chapters before Thatcher due to a combination of opportunity and an INeverSaidItWasPoison slip-up.
58	* In the ''Literature/LeftBehind'' books, the main characters, calling themselves the Tribulation Force, basically sit around and try to survive the tribulation, but do nothing that actually affects the events of the story in any way. Their main contributions are actually the minor tasks they do for the villain (writing press releases and flying his plane mostly). The books could basically be described as a travelog for TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt.
59	* Ishmael, in ''Literature/MobyDick''. The only thing that really distinguishes him as a character is that he's the SoleSurvivor of the ''Pequod''.
60	* ''Literature/TalesFromAlcatraz'': In ''Al Capone Does My Homework'', the main plot is Moose trying to figure out who set the fire that his sister is suspected of starting and worrying an investigative task force may decide to fixate on Natalie as the obvious suspect. The task force identifies the correct culprit (someone Moose barely considered) without much trouble, although Moose does uncover other important wrongdoings while snooping around.
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64	* Invoked in ''Series/TheBigBangTheory'': Amy spoils ''Film/RaidersOfTheLostArk'' for Sheldon and the other guys by pointing out that Indiana Jones has nothing to do with the outcome of the movie.
65	* Invoked and justified in a few episodes of ''Series/DoctorWho''.
66	** Certain events, especially those based on RealLife history, require the Doctor and his companions to be this trope while otherwise solving the problems connected to what the show calls "fixed points in time" (the event must take place within a rigid set of circumstances defining the end result or reality will collapse). A good example is the Tenth Doctor episode "The Fires of Pompeii", where the Doctor and his companion discover alien beings called the Pyroviles are using Mount Vesuvius to stay alive, and to prevent the danger they pose humanity, Vesuvius must erupt as history dictates, leaving the protagonists unable to stop the historical event. They are, however, allowed to save at least one family of people from the event, since history doesn't record anything that would contradict their survival.
67	** This also happened in "Warriors' Gate" (where it was intended to be AnAesop about "doing nothing" sometimes being wiser than pointless action), and in certain stories during Creator/EricSaward's tenure as script editor (where it was probably because of Saward's belief that the Doctor just wasn't as cool as his own badass military characters).
68	** In "The Time of the Doctor" the Doctor explains his default plan: talk a lot, hope something good happens, take the credit.
69	* The documentary ''The Pharmacist'' explores this trope as regards its titular focal character turned AmateurSleuth when he suspects a local doctor is operating a prescription mill for oxycontin. He frequently passes his suspicions to various authorities, is told they're looking into it, [[PoliceAreUseless believes they're blowing him off]] and continues investigating on his own. Eventually we hear the feds' side of the story; the DEA have, in fact, been surveilling the suspect and gradually building a case against them, and while they appreciated the information Dan was able to pass on as a witness, his attempts to investigate independently (and his constant haranguing phone calls to the authorities) were at times more of a hindrance than a help, and he risked alerting the target. Despite all this, the documentary is structured around the ostensibly "useless" amateur sleuth because [[EnforcedTrope it makes for a more compelling story]]; he's a [[CrusadingWidow Crusading Father]] whose son was killed by a (street-level) drug dealer and who is DesperatelyLookingForAPurposeInLife, and his investigation is grounded in worry about his own customers and community, wracked by the opioid crisis.
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73	* ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfHeroesTrailsOfColdSteel II'' has Class VII try to minimize the damage of the CivilWar as much as possible but ultimately aren't the ones who could end the war itself.
74	* ''VideoGame/PokemonSwordAndShield'' has out-of-control Dynamax Pokémon appear all over the region at the tail end of the story, but Champion Leon, along with other adults like Sonia, deal with them while the protagonist and rivals are told to continue the Gym challenge.
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78	* The children in ''WesternAnimation/TheAmazingChanAndTheChanClan'' try their hardest, and are usually the ones who get the ball rolling, but it's always their dad who ends up solving the mystery in the end.
79	* ''WesternAnimation/CaptainPlanetAndThePlaneteers'' is sort of like this. The Planeteers are the real main characters, with Captain Planet himself usually only getting about two minutes of screen time per episode. He ''is'', however, the DeusExMachina that solves all the major problems, while the heroes are mostly there to just [[AllYourPowersCombined summon him]] and learn the {{Aesop}} ([[GreenAesop green]] or otherwise) ''du jour'', after getting into a lot of danger and adventurous situations, of course. Although FridgeLogic often comes in since the Captain's solutions are usually things they could have done just as easily without him; he's usually only useful at all because they have terrible teamwork and don't realize they can use their powers in combination.
80	* Rufus and Amberley of ''WesternAnimation/TheDreamstone'' were usually ineffective against even [[HarmlessVillain the Urpneys]], though usually come out fine anyway due to the assistance of [[InvincibleHero the Wuts]], [[NiceJobFixingItVillain the Urpneys screwing up the plan]] or [[TheFool just pure dumb luck]]. [[TookALevelInBadass They became much more effective at it]] during later parts of the series however, sometimes disassembling their plans single handed.
81	* In the original 1960s series, ''WesternAnimation/JonnyQuest'' basically just hung around while his dad and Race dealt with all the dangerous stuff. Occasionally, he, Hadji, and Bandit would need rescuing, and would even take down a {{mook}} or two, but otherwise did little but comment on the action. This was realized when ''WesternAnimation/JonnyQuestTheRealAdventures'' was made, resulting in the younger cast members being much more capable of fighting and getting out of trouble, not to mention being aged up a bit.
82	* The ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' episode "Over A Barrel" goes one better, as the main characters actually make the problem worse, repeatedly. The issue is finally solved ''despite'' them, rather than by any action on their part.
83	* ''WesternAnimation/TheNewScoobyDooMovies'':
84	** In "A Good Medium Is Rare," two cops responding to a call about prowlers (although said prowlers were the gang rather than the bad guys) arrest the jewel thieves with absolutely no help from the gang.
85	** In "[[Recap/TheNewScoobyDooMoviesS1E8TheSecretOfSharkIsland The Secret of Shark Island]]," judging by how he shows up in the villain's base during the climax, Agent Hidalgo would have solved the case even without the gang's contribution.
86	* ''WesternAnimation/ScoobyDoo'''s Mystery Incorporated, the [[TropeNamer meddling kids]] themselves, are an odd case. The mysteries are usually solved by Velma, using clues that Scooby and Shaggy discover completely by accident. Freddie is useless until the final act, when he builds a trap for the villain that never does what it's supposed to but results in the villain's capture anyway. Daphne contributes nothing. As famous as this formula is, it was frequently averted even in the first season and fell apart completely afterwards.
87	** This is averted hilariously in the live-action movies, in which the cast also realize their shortcomings -- Daphne takes down a good number of bad guys after [[IKnowKarate taking martial arts classes]] and Shaggy and Scooby spend the entire second movie performing investigations on their own to prove their worth (of course, the success of said investigations is pretty limited...)
88	* PlayedForLaughs in ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' episode "The Day the Violence Died." Bart and Lisa brought to light a copyright issue that caused ''The Itchy and Scratchy Show'' to cease production. They struggle to resolve the problem themselves, eventually figure out something...only to discover that a [[SimilarSquad pair of similar-looking siblings]][[note]][[MythologyGag Modified from their original designs]] on ''Series/TheTraceyUllmanShow''[[/note]] figured out a different solution already. The episode ends with them feeling perturbed by this while giving not-Bart a dramatic close-up and ScareChord.
89	* ''WesternAnimation/TheVentureBros'', who were based on ''Literature/TheHardyBoys'' and ''WesternAnimation/JonnyQuest'' both, really do nothing in the show during the first season, but are the main characters nonetheless. This changes in later seasons.
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