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| 6 | [[quoteright:350:[[Manga/MagicalCircleGuruGuru https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/mggthief.jpg]]]] |
| 7 | [[caption-width-right:350: [[KleptomaniacHero To be fair, a lot of heroes are thieves by default.]]]] |
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| 9 | ->''"When I was little, I thought my father had it all figured out. He said men must be loyal to their friends and dangerous to their enemies. But when he prevented me from...from hurting someone, he had changed. He said enemies and ego are not as important as loved ones. I didn't want to hear it. I was...lost. I called him a hypocrite in a thousand different ways, said that he was going soft. Now...I think maybe he ''did'' have it all figured out."'' |
| 10 | -->-- '''Kolyat Krios''', ''VideoGame/MassEffect3: Citadel'' |
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| 12 | [[BrokenPedestal Some characters find out that their idols were not the people they thought they were]], or see them do things that goes against their previous respect for them, such as a mentor [[FaceHeelTurn who joined their enemies]]. Other times, they resent a person they would otherwise have admired, such as [[ParentalAbandonment a parent who abandoned them]]. |
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| 14 | But there is often more to the story than that, especially when the formerly admired character is mentioned to be a BrokenPedestal early on in the story. The characters typically learn more about the event or decision that caused them to lose faith in the person they once admired, [[LessDisturbingInContext sometimes circumstances that explain or justify the action]], and [[MistakenForMurderer sometimes that they were completely mistaken]]. This leads them to decide to reconcile with the mentor, and sometimes, [[AnAesop learn a significant personal lesson in the process]]. |
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| 16 | Rebuilt Pedestals are typically broken by the time they are first introduced unless both the revelation that caused them to break and the revelation that restores their admirer's faith are tied in to the main story. Sometimes this trope can be played for tragedy as the pedestal holder may be dead by the time the character learns the truth, making any sort of reconciliation impossible. |
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| 18 | Quite literally the {{Reconstruction}} of BrokenPedestal. Compare WartsAndAll, in which the admirers accept the person for their flaws, and the pedestal may not have been broken in the first place. This is sometimes hand-in-hand with GoodAllAlong when it involves an apparent FaceHeelTurn. |
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| 20 | There will be some unmarked spoilers ahead, for the rebuilding and sometimes for the breaking. |
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| 22 | !!Examples: |
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| 26 | [[folder:Anime & Manga]] |
| 27 | * Yoruichi for Soifon in ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'', as Soifon initially hated her for leaving her behind after fleeing Soul Society, but apparently came to forgive her, as in fillers and manga extras, addresses her with the same respect and shows the same admiration she had when she was younger. (It helps a lot that at the time of their eventual confrontation the reasons behind the part which hurt her the most -- that Yoruichi didn't just abandon her but abruptly disappeared from the world without ever explaining why or contacting her again -- were in the process of expiring, and it turns out Yoruichi had very good reasons, so their basic relationship was quick to fix. We just don't happen to see it.) |
| 28 | * ''Anime/CodeGeass'': |
| 29 | ** Kallen initially hated her mother for staying as a maid, seemingly out of love for her father who has already remarried, but learned that it was out of love for her that she did so. Happens to her ''several'' times with Lelouch. |
| 30 | ** Lelouch manipulates his BrokenPedestal status to his soldiers, the Black Knights, and to his friend Suzaku Kururugi, and deliberately expands that to enact a ZeroApprovalGambit/[[spoiler: ThanatosGambit]] with [[spoiler: the Zero Requiem, becoming the villain to the entire world. Upon discovering the Zero Requiem, however, several of those people rebuild his pedestal, including Suzaku, Kallen, and Lelouch's sister Nunnally.]] |
| 31 | * ''Anime/DragonBallZ'': Having grown up without Vegeta around in the BadFuture, Future Trunks is initially happy to meet his father... until he discovers that Vegeta is an arrogant, selfish {{Jerkass}} who not only doesn't give a damn about Bulma or the son he fathered with her, but is perfectly willing to sell out his own allies and put the entire world at risk [[BloodKnight just for the sake of a good fight]]. They reconcile when Trunks discovers that [[PapaWolf Vegeta]] [[UnstoppableRage went medieval on Cell]] after Cell killed him, and they part on good terms. When he returns in ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'' to get help against Goku Black, Trunks is shocked at how much Vegeta has changed. He actually treats him like a son, trains him to fight Black, and gives him advice... [[GoodIsNotNice in his own way]]. |
| 32 | ** In the manga, this happens with Goten when it came to his DisappearedDad, Goku, having heard stories of his greatness and amazing powers, when he finds out Goku had [[ILetGwenStacyDie failed to save Gohan and Vegeta's lives]], he believed these were lies, until he witnessed Goku go [[SuperMode Super Saiyan 3]], putting his doubts to rest. This portion ended up getting {{Downplayed}} in the anime due to {{Filler}}. |
| 33 | * ''Manga/FlameOfRecca''. After [[spoiler:Mikagami fought against Kai, he's told that the one who killed his sister was his master Meguri Kyouza. Although utterly shocked, Mikagami already spotted some irregularities from that statement, and during the eventual fight with Meguri Kyouza, it was revealed that Meguri Kyouza didn't actually kill his sister, but failed to prevent her death by Mori's men, thus blames himself for it and becomes a DeathSeeker. Mikagami forgave him and once again respects him]]. |
| 34 | * In ''Manga/FruitsBasket'', back when Arisa Uotani was in junior high, she greatly admired the legendary gang leader Red Butterfly. When she finds out that she lives nearby, Arisa waits on her chance to meet her. When she finally does, she finds out that Kyoko Honda, the Red Butterfly, has turned into a DotingParent. At first, she isn't happy about it, but then she slowly warms up to her and when [[spoiler:Kyoko helped Arisa quit her gang]], she regains her deep respect for Kyoko and eventually vows to protect her daughter Tohru. |
| 35 | * In ''Anime/FullmetalAlchemist2003'', the older of two Ishvalan brothers is quite bitter toward his mother, who ran out into the foyer of the home where the two boys were, then when soldiers arrived, ran into the bedroom seemingly out of cowardice, being killed when a shell hit. He eventually finds out that her eyesight had deteriorated, and she was running back to check on her children, not knowing where they were when he opens her old locket and finds eye medicine hidden inside. This causes him to forgive her. |
| 36 | * Kawasaki from ''Anime/KirbyRightBackAtYa'' loses all of his respect for his teacher Shiitake once he comes to know that he uses chemical substances in his dishes. The pedestal gets rebuilt at the end of the episode when learns that Shiitake never actually used the spice and everything was actually a ploy for Kawasaki to grow into a more capable chef. Even if Shiitake's reputation is now ruined, he's fine with it since Kawasaki has learnt from the experience. |
| 37 | * In ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikers'', Subaru is left distraught after Nanoha, the mage she looked up to after she was rescued by her, seemingly callously struck down her partner Teana during a training situation, then removed her from the group. She later finds out from Shamal why: [[spoiler:she actually cares for her students and refuses to let them go through TrainingFromHell as doing so nearly got her killed when she was younger.]] Subaru quickly rebuilt that pedestal. |
| 38 | * ''Anime/MobileFighterGGundam''. In the beginning, on learning that Master Asia tried to destroy humanity, Domon considers him a BrokenPedestal. But after the final battle and learning Master Asia's true purpose and the fact that he never resorted to infecting himself with Devil Gundam Cells, Domon re-earns the respect he had for his master, and cried for his death shortly after together reciting the motto of ''School of The Undefeated Of The East'' one last time. |
| 39 | ** The same happens with Domon and [[spoiler:his older brother Kyouji. He believed that his brother had willingly betrayed humanity, sold out their family and become the pilot of the Devil Gundam; when he learned that Kyouji was TheScapegoat, that he was BrainwashedAndCrazy by the DG-Cells ''and'' that he had managed to use his last bits of sanity to "create" his clone Schwarz Bruder, Domon forgave him and started to refer to Schwarz as "Brother". And then he had to MercyKill both Kyoji and Schwarz to stop the Devil Gundam, [[ManlyTears crying as he did so.]]]]. |
| 40 | * In ''Manga/MuhyoAndRoji'', Biko is initially shocked at her teacher Rio’s betrayal of the Magical Law Association but comes to forgive her after she rejoins the heroes. |
| 41 | * In the very beginning of ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'', Deku is disillusioned when he sees [[BigGood All Might's]] weak form and is told off by his hero that because he was [[{{Muggle}} Quirkless]] meant he would never be a Hero. After Deku selflessly threw himself at a villain who kidnapped his former best friend Katsuki, giving All Might a HeroicSecondWind, the Hero quickly changed his tune and made Deku his successor to the One For All power, allowing him to rebuild his pedestal for his hero. |
| 42 | * In ''Manga/MyHime'', Natsuki temporarily enters a HeroicBSOD after learning that [[spoiler:her mother was supposedly planning to sell her]], but later decides to believe in the mother inside her heart. |
| 43 | * A few cases from ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'': |
| 44 | ** Itachi Uchiha. Sasuke looked up to him before he massacred his clan, but after realizing he was forced into it, avenging what happened to him becomes his motive for revenge. This is not a good thing, as the [[SanitySlippage Curse of Hatred]] led him to try to unleash his anger towards Danzo against all of Konoha, and it takes Itachi, the four former Hokage, and Naruto to return him to his senses. |
| 45 | ** Quite a few filler characters also count; the princess in the Land of Vegetables arc realizes that her father regretted having her sent away as a hostage so his nation could survive, and Utakata realizes that his master wanted to extract Saiken the Six Tails for his sake. |
| 46 | ** Kakashi goes from being ashamed of his father Sakumo for breaking the rules to save his comrades, to believing he did the right thing in ''Kakashi Gaiden''. [[spoiler:Unfortunately, his best friend Obito, who rebuilt said pedestal, went the opposite direction, due to the Curse of Hatred destroying his sanity after watching Rin die.]] |
| 47 | ** While Naruto never showed any outward resentment for Minato Namikaze, the Fourth Hokage, he finally expressed his anger when he met him after nearly releasing Kurama during Pain's attack on Konoha (he ''did'' seal Kurama inside him, leading to almost all of Konoha ostracizing him, after all). Learning that Minato was his father helped towards rebuilding the pedestal, and now the respect he has for him is possibly even greater than it was before. |
| 48 | ** Hanabi Hyuga admired her older sister Hinata for years, but when Hinata was deemed weak, her views shattered. She didn't ''hate'' Hinata; however, she lost the bond between them. After seeing how [[TookALevelInBadass strong]] and [[PluckyGirl determined]] [[SilkHidingSteel Hin]][[LadyOfWar ata]] has become in ''Shippuden'', Hanabi begins to [[BigSisterWorship admire her]] again. |
| 49 | * In ''Manga/OnePiece'', Laboon desperately tried to break through the Red Line to reach his crew, believing that they sailed back to West Blue rather than circumnavigating the globe on the Grand Line, also forgetting their promise to return to him. It’s eventually revealed that they had been killed on the Grand Line. One of their crew, Brook, came back to life with his Devil Fruit power and is determined to return to Laboon to fulfill his promise. |
| 50 | * ''Anime/PokemonTheSeries'': |
| 51 | ** In ''Anime/PokemonTheOriginalSeries'', Misty idolized the Water-specialist Nurse Joy who works at Lake Lucid. However, upon meeting her, Misty is distraught when she learns that Joy is actually so frightened of Water Pokemon that she refuses to touch them, wearing a special suit so she doesn't have to. However, once Joy manages to calm down an angry Gyarados with her bare hands after her suit was washed away, Misty realizes that Joy prioritizes her duty above her fear, and respects Joy again. |
| 52 | ** In ''Anime/PokemonLucarioAndTheMysteryOfMew'', Lucario resented his former master Sir Aaron for sealing him in a staff and supposedly abandoning the kingdom in its hour of need. It's near the end of the film that Lucario learns that Sir Aaron performed a HeroicSacrifice to save the kingdom, with him sealing Lucario [[BreakHisHeartToSaveHim so he wouldn't share the same fate]]. |
| 53 | --->'''Lucario:''' ''(remorsefully)'' Forgive me for doubting you, Master. |
| 54 | ** In ''Anime/PokemonTheSeriesBlackAndWhite'', Trip loses his respect for Alder after seeing him act lazy and foolish. He later regains his respect for him after Alder [[CurbstompBattle curbstomps]] him. |
| 55 | * Mai (Konami's daughter) from ''Popotan'' has a severe grudge against her namesake (one of the main characters), [[spoiler: because she never came back to her mother before she died, despite the two of them being best friends who had promised to see each other again]]. In the last episode, [[spoiler: once she's back in the same time period as Konami, Mai has her promise not to resent her for not being able to come back, since her time travel is out of her control. Judging from her daughter's attitude towards Mai in the same episode, it worked on her as well]]. |
| 56 | * In ''Manga/{{Ratman}}'', Shuuto is initially disillusioned with the Hero Organization when he discovers that some members like Ankaiser care more about fame and fortune than about helping people. As the series progresses, the heroes reveal their more redeeming qualities, even Ankaiser. |
| 57 | * ''Anime/SailorMoon'': Chibi-Usa was quite disappointed upon realizing Sailor Moon was the ditzy and whiny Usagi, and decided to take away her broach since she felt she didn't deserve it. After this backfires, Chibi-Usa [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone feels guilty for it]] and returns the broach to Usagi, allowing Usagi to successfully defeat Rubeus. After this, while she still considers her a ditzy crybaby and likes to get under her skin, Chibi-Usa starts to have a better appreciation towards Usagi as time goes on. |
| 58 | * In ''Anime/TheVisionOfEscaflowne'', [[spoiler:Van's AloofBigBrother Folken was allied with TheEmpire, so when he had a HeelFaceTurn he was ReformedButRejected and Van was unable to forgive him. Then Folken saved Van ''and'' himself from a Dragon that was around [[DistressBall when they were unarmed]], and Van re-accepted him. By the time Folken fell victim to a KarmicDeath, poor Van was screaming and crying for his brother's demise.]] |
| 59 | * In ''Anime/YuGiOh'', Atem finds out that [[spoiler: his father was responsible for the creation of the Millennium Items, which were made by sacrificing a village full of innocent people]]. The pedestal is rebuilt when he finds out that [[spoiler: his uncle, not his father, was primarily responsible, and his father became sick with grief as a result]]. |
| 60 | * ''Anime/ZombieLandSaga:'' Occurs a few times. |
| 61 | ** [[Characters/ZombieLandSagaSakuraMinamoto Sakura]] was a big fan of [[Characters/ZombieLandSagaFranchouchou Ai Mizuno]] in life, who inspired her to become an idol one day. When the two meet as zombies, Ai exhibits a very hostile and cynical attitude because of their situation, both being dead and forgotten by the world, and being roped into the Zombie Land Saga project without much choice. Sakura, who values her second chance at life, becomes disillusioned with Ai. Once Ai helps her and the other girls save a failing performance, and Ai decides to stick around to help the others become idols, Sakura renews her appreciation for her. |
| 62 | ** After a failed concert that put Franchouchou in debt, Kotaro goes into a depressive slump, drinking heavily and withdrawing from his producer duties. Sakura, after many attempts to try and reignite his spirit, decides she's had enough of his attitude and leaves him to sit alone at a bar. Kotaro eventually snaps out of his funk and fully commits to helping Franchouchou rise from rock bottom, regaining Sakura's respect. |
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| 65 | [[folder:Comic Books]] |
| 66 | * ''ComicBook/RebelHeist'': Loyal Rebel soldier Jan becomes extremely disenchanted with the Rebellion after he and Han get paired together on a mission, Han does a lot of reckless stuff, and the two of them get captured as a result. After he learns that it was all a BatmanGambit, he calms down and his last scenes shows him in a bar, praising the superiority of the Rebellion over the Empire. |
| 67 | * ''ComicBook/TheTransformersIDW'': Optimus Prime becomes disillusioned with the legacy of the Primes and reverts his name back to Orion Pax after the conclusion of ''Transformers: Ongoing''. During the events of ''ComicBook/TheTransformersDarkCybertron'', he's given a RousingSpeech about how he embodied the Primes not as they were, but how they were ''supposed'' to be by Rodimus. This convinces him to reclaim the name Optimus Prime. |
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| 70 | [[folder:Fan Works]] |
| 71 | !!!{{Crossover}}s |
| 72 | * ''Fanfic/BondsAreStrongerThanGold'' has [[GenderFlip Naruko]] as the [[RelatedInTheAdaptation estranged big sister]] of [[Franchise/FullmetalAlchemist Edward and Alphonse]]. They resent her for leaving, unaware that she was [[spoiler:forced to do so against her will]]. Learning the truth helps them gradually rekindle and revive their relationship. |
| 73 | * In ''Fanfic/CodePrime'', Lelouch had long since thought that Cornelia had abandoned him and Nunnally when they were exiled from Britannia. However in the chapter, ''Divided They Fall'', [[spoiler:when Lelouch uses his Geass on Cornelia, she tells him that if she had known that Lelouch was Zero, she would defect from Britannia and join him. When he asks why, she responds that it's because she loves him, and that she never stopped loving him even after he was exiled. This answer catches Lelouch off guard, and it makes him realize that Cornelia could be a potential ally. However, in order to protect her from the Emperor, and Megatron, Lelouch uses his geass to [[LaserGuidedAmnesia erase her memories]] of her encounter with him, even though he clearly doesn't want to]]. |
| 74 | * ''Fanfic/DeadlyNightshade'': When a DNA test establishes Bruce Wayne sired him, Harry laments the fact he's related to such a vapid, air-headed person. He's quite startled when Bruce steps up to take care of him, no matter Harry being illegitimate, which makes him realize the man is more than meets the eye. |
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| 76 | !!!''Franchise/{{Arrowverse}}'' |
| 77 | * In ''Fanfic/BabyWontYouPleaseComeHome'', Thea's lowering opinion of her brother Oliver rapidly picks up once she learns that he's the Arrow, justifying his previously inexplicable absences. |
| 78 | * ''Fanfic/{{Blackbird|Arrow}}'': |
| 79 | ** Thea is hard on Oliver for most of the story because [[EntertaininglyWrong she thinks he's trying to hook back up with Sara]]. [[spoiler:Her opinion of him makes a complete 180 after he saves Laurel and she learns the ''real'' reason he was hanging out with Sara so much.]] |
| 80 | ** Laurel's opinion of Oliver is also improved after he saves her from the League [[spoiler:at the near-cost of his life]]. While her current emotional and mental state means she is no position to even reconsider restarting their relationship, the situation has, at the very least, repaired their friendship, compounded by Oliver apologizing to her for his previous behavior towards her. It also means Laurel has no issues staying at his house and asking for a job to help get by while she gets back on her feet. |
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| 82 | !!!''Franchise/{{Batman}}'' |
| 83 | * Loosely features in ''Fanfic/PartOfTheNight: The Wayne Legacy'', regarding Bruce's memory of Rachel Dawes. Able to move past his previous "obsession" with the idea that Rachel was his only chance for a normal life, Bruce reflects on how Rachel would have gotten along with Selina, and is pleased to think of how his children would call her 'Aunt Rachel'. |
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| 85 | !!!''Franchise/{{Buffyverse}}'' |
| 86 | * ''[[http://www.geocities.ws/debnockels/newadditions/homebeforedark01.html Home Before Dark]]'': Basically applies to Giles's reaction when Angel tells him about the Day That Never Was ("[[Recap/AngelS01E08IWillRememberYou I Will Remember You]]"), struck at the idea that Angel gave up basically everything he ever wanted just to save Buffy's life. |
| 87 | * PlayedWith in ''Fanfic/AMothersLove''. Due to Illyria changing history, Conner never sees Angel as a villain, and everything he sees after arriving on Earth confirms what she told him about his father being a skilled defender of good. |
| 88 | * In ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/2212137/1/Tacos-And-Tea-Parties Tacos and Tea Parties]]'', [[spoiler:while Connor has been raised by Holtz to see Angel as nothing but Angelus, when he sees Holtz arrange his own death in a manner clearly intended to frame Angel, Fred is able to quickly assure Connor that Angel and Darla have always loved him without condition]]. |
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| 90 | !!!''Franchise/DanganRonpa'' |
| 91 | * ''Fanfic/DanganronpaReProgrammed'': Early on, Makoto idolizes his classmates due to their Ultimate Talents. After [[spoiler:Sayaka]] betrays his trust and kicks off the Mutual Killing Game, he grows increasingly resentful and spiteful, isolating himself from the others. After Chihiro and Kyoko share a heartfelt conversation with him, culminating in a hug, he changes his mind and starts acting more like his usual self again. |
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| 93 | !!!''Series/{{Dexter}}'' |
| 94 | * In ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9666470/53/Break-Me-Every-Time Break Me Every Time]]'', Dexter and Debra experience this to a degree when they learn that Doctor Evelyn Vogel murdered Harry Morgan rather than Harry killing himself out of horror at seeing what Dexter had become. While it doesn't excuse his other failings as a parent, they can at least now believe that he genuinely cared about them, where Dexter felt that Harry gave up on him and Debra saw this as proof that she just wasn't enough for Harry to stay alive for. |
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| 96 | !!!''Franchise/{{Digimon}}'' |
| 97 | * {{Downplayed|Trope}} in ''Fanfic/Digimon02TheStoryWeNeverTold''. After discovering that Gennai and the Order had been fully aware of [[spoiler:Oikawa]], but kept them LockedOutOfTheLoop, they're utterly ''furious'', with Izzy outright [[RejectedApology rejecting Gennai's attempt to apologize]]. However, Gennai's willingness to continue helping the Digidestined afterwards, defying his colleagues' orders for him to stop, regains him some of the kids' respect. He's not fully forgiven, but they grow less bitter over time. |
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| 99 | !!!''Franchise/HarryPotter'' |
| 100 | * In ''Fanfic/HarryPotterAndTheMethodsOfRationality'', Harry slowly goes through this with Quirrelmort. |
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| 102 | !!!''Franchise/HowToTrainYourDragon'' |
| 103 | * This features heavily in Hiccup's relationship with Astrid in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13289918/1/The-Treasure-of-Eyja-Nott The Treasure of Eyja Nott]]'', a modern AU based on ''Film/TheCountOfMonteCristo2002''; after spending most of the story believing that Astrid abandoned him and his disgraced father after his false arrest to marry the man who betrayed him, Hiccup learns that Astrid only accepted that proposal on Stoick's urging because she was pregnant with Hiccup's twins and Stoick wanted to ensure the safety of his grandchildren, Astrid acting as Eret's 'dutiful' wife so long as he took financial care of the children. |
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| 105 | !!!''Franchise/MarvelComics'' |
| 106 | * In ''Fanfic/APrizeForThreeEmpires'', [[Characters/MarvelComicsCarolDanvers Carol Danvers]] stops looking up to ComicBook/TheAvengers after they allow her rapist to walk out with her. Later she accepts they had no way to know she was being mind-controlled, and the fact they made a terrible error of judgement doesn't mean they aren't her friends. |
| 107 | -->'''Carol Danvers:''' At one time or another, I was on the outs with a bunch of you. Sometimes the Avengers, sometimes the X-Men. Sometimes I had reason to be, sometimes... it was just my own stupid fault. Sometimes I was right, sometimes I was really, really wrong. But the thing... the thing I was most wrong about... was thinking that you, and you, and you, and all the rest of you, were anything but friends. |
| 108 | |
| 109 | !!!''WesternAnimation/MiraculousLadybug'' |
| 110 | * ''Fanfic/{{Lady Luck|MiraculousLadybug}}'': Marinette had idolized the titular hero ever since her debut, even using her as her inspiration to stand up to Chloé. When she finds out that Lady Luck ''is'' Chloé, she is so distraught that she ends up Akumatized to Mis-Fortune. [[spoiler:However, Lady Luck manages to convinces Marinette that she is genuinely working on improving herself from her AlphaBitch days, even risking her role as a heroine by nearly letting her powers run up. It's enough for Marinette to break free of Hawkmoth's control, allowing Lady Luck to purify the Akuma, keep her identity a secret, and gain the former as a confidant.]] |
| 111 | * ''Fanfic/TruthAndConsequences'': Among the many relationships that get damaged or destroyed over the course of the story is Adrien's faith in Alya when he provides her with all the evidence he's gathered of Ladybug's [[DealWithTheDevil deal with Hawkmoth]], only for her to run an exclusive interview that only tells ''Ladybug's'' side of the story, completely ignoring everything he'd told her. Both Adrien and Kagami regard her with contempt afterwards. By the end of the story, however, Alya gets a chance to explain just ''why'' she compromised her journalistic intregrity; while [[DownplayedTrope they don't fully agree with her reasoning]], they accept it nonetheless. |
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| 113 | !!!''Franchise/MyHeroAcademia'' |
| 114 | * ''Fanfic/WithConfidence'' has Izuku [[TranquilFury calmly inform]] Toshinori of how much he used to admire All Might. While he admits that he knew he was likely just LovingAShadow based off of his public persona, he'd still liked the notion that his idol would support him and his dreams. After Toshinori sincerely apologizes for his conduct on the roof and declares his intention to help improve the lot of Quirkless people, Izuku slowly starts admiring him again. |
| 115 | |
| 116 | !!!''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' |
| 117 | * At the start of ''Fanfic/TheApprenticeTheStudentAndTheCharlatan'', Nova Shine loathes just about every figure he ever saw as an idol or mentor figure for various reasons, the notable exception being Princess Luna, his current teacher, to whom he has unquestionable loyalty. His father and mother neglected him, his first mentor betrayed him, Princess Cadance refuses to stop pestering him about making his peace with all of them, and so on. The first half of the fic features him making his peace with all of them and growing to love them all as friends and family. |
| 118 | * ''Fanfic/TheImmortalGame'': Celestia had become a BrokenPedestal for Twilight Sparkle when Twilight found out that [[spoiler:Celestia had been manipulating her for years]]. However, at the climax of the story, Twilight also discovers that [[spoiler:it was Celestia, not Luna (who she was disguised as) that comforted her the night before the FinalBattle]]; this gets it through her head that despite everything else, Celestia ''did'' love her. This allows Twilight to forgive her. |
| 119 | * In the first quarter of ''Fanfic/LovedAndLost'', [[TheUsurper Prince Jewelius]] uses the events of "A Canterlot Wedding" to cause Twilight Sparkle and the citizens of Canterlot to turn against Princess Celestia, the Mane Five, Shining Armor, and Spike. The [[HeroWithBadPublicity now-disgraced heroes]] spend the rest of the story desperately trying to prove their innocence and earn back everypony's -- especially Twilight's -- trust. While [[EarnYourHappyEnding they first have to go through a considerable amount of physical and emotional pain]], they eventually succeed by exposing [[spoiler:Jewelius' secret crimes]], saving [[spoiler:Ponyville from his army as well as all of Equestria from the Changelings]], and publicly apologizing for their personal screw-ups that made it possible for the Changeling invasion to occur. Celestia in particular starts regaining her former subjects' and faithful student's respect during [[spoiler:her PublicExecution]], where she delivers a heartfelt apology speech in which she takes full responsibility for her failures, which leads to [[spoiler:everypony demanding her execution to be stopped]]. |
| 120 | * ''Fanfic/PartingWords'' opens with Twilight [[RageAgainstTheMentor calling out]] Princess Celestia for constantly throwing her into situations unprepared and uninformed, declaring that "''I'm not going to imperil hundreds or even thousands of innocent ponies '''trying to get a gold sticker from you on a [[SecretTestOfCharacter TEST!]]'''''" She also completely renounces her status as her student, as she no longer trusts her mentor. In the final chapter, the two share a long heart-to-heart wherein Celestia explains all of her reasoning for why she treated Twilight the way that she did, profusely and sincerely apologizing, and the two reconcile. |
| 121 | * ''Fanfic/WhyAmICrying'': After learning that Cheerilee used to bully other ponies during her high school years, including Scootaloo's own ''father'', Scootaloo completely loses all of the respect she once held for her teacher, refusing to believe that she's changed since then. Over time, she gradually learns that it ''is'' possible for bullies to [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone regret their actions]] and change for the better, and that Cheerilee is a good example. |
| 122 | * In ''Fanfic/TheWitchOfTheEverfree'', Sunset Shimmer eventually realizes that Celestia actually ''did'' love her and that her own actions were the main driving force behind their initial conflict. |
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| 124 | !!!''Franchise/{{Naruto}}'' |
| 125 | * In ''Fanfic/TruePotential'', [[spoiler:Itachi]] becomes this to Sasuke, and eventually to most of the top-ranking shinobi in Konoha after the truth of [[spoiler:the Uchiha Massacre]] comes to light. |
| 126 | |
| 127 | !!!''Franchise/StarTrek'' |
| 128 | * In ''Fanfic/TheProdigalDaughter'', while Noah Lessing always had a low opinion of Janeway after the destruction of the ''Equinox'', seeing how far she's willing to go to save Marla helps him accept her as a captain. |
| 129 | |
| 130 | !!!''Franchise/TolkiensLegendarium'' |
| 131 | * ''Fanfic/ABoyAGirlAndADogTheLeithianScript'': During an argument with the [[CouncilOfAngels Valar]], Beren complains that he and his clan lost everything while fighting [[GodOfEvil Morgoth]] in the gods' behalf. After a conversation with the heads of the pantheon and his patron goddess, though, Beren comes to the understanding that the Valar really want and try to do right for everyone. Nonetheless, they aren't perfect, so they're wont to make mistakes and then struggle to fix them... the same as his folks back home and even himself. Beren decides he can't stay angry after that revelation. |
| 132 | -->'''Finrod:''' But you were-- answered. What was the Answer?\ |
| 133 | '''Beren:''' What I said-- they're just muddling along like us, making it up as we go.\ |
| 134 | '''Finrod:''' That... is essentially what I've been saying. All along. For great years.\ |
| 135 | '''Beren:''' Yeah, but I didn't get it before.\ |
| 136 | '''Finrod:''' But-- how does that answer your outrage? How does that relieve your mind at all? I don't "get it," I fear.\ |
| 137 | '''Beren:''' Don't you, Sir? I thought for sure you would.\ |
| 138 | '''Finrod:''' ''(ragged laugh)'' I know what you're saying -- that we your lords made our mistakes and led you into danger and and failed to protect you when Bauglir struck, even as I erred and failed in my attempts to save you, and still despite all that you loved me no less, for being powerless, but --\ |
| 139 | '''Beren:''' ''(cutting him off, roughly)'' Not in spite of-- Because. And all the more. ''[clearing his throat]'' So. They're just a bunch of poor bastards struggling along to do the right thing, same as me. I can feel for that. Respect it too. Kind of makes it hard to stay angry, though. |
| 140 | * In ''Fanfic/TheSecret'', Emma is shocked to learn that her mother Kate worked as a prostitute. However, she eventually realizes that she was doing whatever she could to provide for her and her brother Billy, and deeply regrets how she'd treated her after learning that [[spoiler:she's passed away]]. |
| 141 | [[/folder]] |
| 142 | |
| 143 | [[folder:Films -- Animation]] |
| 144 | * ''Franchise/KungFuPanda'': |
| 145 | ** Prior to the [[WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda1 first movie]], Po had always looked up both the Furious Five and Shifu & always dreamed of learning Kung Fu to become a part of them. But then come the events of the movie. Oogway chooses him to be the Kung Fu master, but Po's initial excitement soon fades when they repeatedly demean and insult him and openly declare that he has no place in the Jade Palace, even declaring that he should leave the place. When he gets confronted by Shifu after chickening out, he not only calls him out on their behavior but also demands to know if he even can or wants to turn someone like him into a Dragon Warrior to confront Tai Lung. When Shifu has nothing to say about it, Po ultimately leaves the Palace, his dreams of being a Kung Fu master being utterly shattered by their cruel actions. [[spoiler:Fortunately, after remembering his promise to Oogway to train Po before the former passed away, Shifu decides to train him for real, and in a way that actually works.]] |
| 146 | *** And even before that argument occurred, [[spoiler:the Furious Five, who weren't the most welcoming idols Po imagined, slowly began respecting [[{{Determinator}} his tenancity and willingness]] to put up with the hell they put him through. They (sans Tigress) even applaud him on the soup he made for them and start cracking up at his impersonation of Shifu. It also helps that Po's frustration in his argument with Shifu was more directed at him than them]]. |
| 147 | ** Po from ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda3'' becomes outraged at his biological father when he reveals that he [[spoiler:lied about the chi and took him to the panda village just to keep him safe from Kai's clutches, greatly endangering his friends in the process. However, once Li Shan offers Po to train him and the other pandas to help him against Kai, Po eventually regains his respect for his father, treating him just like Mr. Ping as his dad]]. |
| 148 | * ''WesternAnimation/TheLittleMermaid1989'': King Triton very nearly destroys his relationship with his daughter Ariel when, after finding out she's in love with a human, he flies into an UnstoppableRage and wrecks her collection of surface-world objects. He ultimately regains her love and trust when he rescues her from Ursula by willingly taking her place in their deal, proving beyond a doubt that he's truly sorry for his actions, and then overcomes his prejudice by turning Ariel into a human permanently so she can live happily with Eric. |
| 149 | * In ''WesternAnimation/{{Robots}}'', Rodney finds out he was wrong to romanticize Bigweld when Bigweld won’t help against the {{Big Bad}} Ratchet but regains his respect for Bigweld when he reconsiders and joins Rodney’s efforts to do so. |
| 150 | [[/folder]] |
| 151 | |
| 152 | [[folder:Films -- Live-Action]] |
| 153 | * ''Film/BigFish'': The movie revolves around Will trying to reconnect with his father Edward after he spent years without speaking to Edward because he became frustrated with Ed's endless stories about himself, which Will saw as nothing more than self-aggrandizement. [[spoiler: In the end, he comes to realize that Edward really was a remarkable man (even if he had a tendency towards exaggeration) and, more importantly, a loving father.]] |
| 154 | * A variation of this was done in ''Film/{{Inception}}'', as Cobb and his team's mission is to plant the idea in Fisher Jr.'s head that his father wanted him to find his own path in life by causing him to once again respect his father. |
| 155 | * In the second ''Film/LegallyBlonde'' film, Elle is happy to work for Victoria Rudd, whose work as a trailblazer Elle has long admired. Midway through the film, Elle is rocked to find Victoria has been trying to kill Elle's beloved dog protection bill in order to keep funding from a sponsor. She tells Elle off on "you can't get people to care" as Elle realizes Victoria is just another career politician trying to keep her seat for no reason. At the end of the film, after Elle has managed to get her bill passed, Victoria apologizes, admitting that Elle's passion has reminded Victoria of the person she used to be and wants to go back to that. Elle is happy Victoria is the idol she praised after all. |
| 156 | * ''Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse'': |
| 157 | ** Tony Stark's father in ''Film/IronMan2''. Tony had initially thought of his father as highly distant and was upset to learn about Stark Corporation's dealings, but after learning of how much his father had done for his sake and his commitment for a better world in the sequel, he began to respect him more. |
| 158 | ** During the final battle of ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'', Pietro Maximoff (Quicksilver) is shocked to see [[spoiler: S.H.I.E.L.D.'s original Helicarrier floating above the clouds, coming to evacuate the citizens of Sokovia (seeing as S.H.I.E.L.D. disbanded at the end of ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'' after they were exposed to be infiltrated by Hydra). He asks Captain America "This is S.H.I.E.L.D.?" to get the reply "This is what S.H.I.E.L.D. is supposed to be." Pietro then cracks a smile and states "This is not so bad."]] |
| 159 | ** It also counts as one for Steve, given his [[Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier recent experiences with S.H.I.E.L.D.]] |
| 160 | ** In ''Film/ThorRagnarok'', Loki and Odin actually care about each other again, which is a significant change in both their attitudes, seeing as in the previous ''Thor'' movie, Odin almost sentenced Loki to death and told him he was destined to die on a frozen rock, and Loki hated Odin for being a hypocrite and refused to acknowledge him as a father. Five years later, when Odin tells both Loki and Thor that he loves them and acknowledges Loki as his son again [[spoiler: just before he’s about to die,]] Loki has to fight back tears. |
| 161 | * ''Film/MenOfHonor'': Carl seeks to be a Navy diver after seeing Sunday make an imposing figure in the suit and then sacrifice his health and career to save a man from drowning, while also being impressed by how Sunday is a former farmer like him. He is harshly disillusioned after Sunday makes his racism clear to Carl while subjecting him to DrillSergeantNasty abuse and sabotage, and calls him out as being an empty and hateful man. However, later in the film, they reconcile as Sunday finds it hard to deny Sunday’s skill and drive, refuses an order to kill him, repairs his broken beloved radio (after having previously broken it himself), and later supports him when he needs to learn how to walk and dive with a prosthetic limb. |
| 162 | * ''Film/ReadyToRumble'' has the two protagonists, who are diehard WCW fans watch as their idol Jimmy King is cheated out of his title by a corrupt promoter. They find King, and then find out he's a drunken deadbeat who left his wife and son and stole his parents' mobile home. They find King a trainer and help him win the title. Jimmy King finally becomes what they always saw him as. Not only that, but they become {{Ascended Fanboy}}s: one of them becomes Jimmy King's tag partner, while the other one becomes his manager. |
| 163 | * In ''Film/StarTrekFirstContact'', the ''Enterprise'' crew meets Zephram Cochrane, the first human to conduct warp flight and make [[TitleDrop first contact]] with extraterrestrial life. While the crew is surprised to find that Cochrane is a boorish drunkard [[OnlyInItForTheMoney who was only interested in making a profit on his warp drive]] and [[StopWorshippingMe Cochrane is uncomfortable by the hero worship he gets]], they eventually learn to accept him, WartsAndAll. |
| 164 | -->'''Riker:''' Someone once said "Don't try to be a great man. Just be a man, and let history make its own judgment."\ |
| 165 | '''Cochrane:''' That's rhetorical nonsense. Who said that?\ |
| 166 | '''Riker:''' ''(grins)'' You did, ten years from now. |
| 167 | * ''Franchise/StarWars'': |
| 168 | ** In the Original Trilogy, [[TheHero Luke Skywalker]] idolizes his deceased father Anakin upon learning that he was a great Jedi Knight who was murdered by the evil Darth Vader. That pedestal [[BrokenPedestal comes crashing down,]] however, when Vader reveals that ''[[LukeIAmYourFather he]]'' [[LukeIAmYourFather is in fact Luke's father]] and used to be the heroic Anakin before [[FaceHeelTurn falling to the Dark Side.]] After going through a HeroicBSOD, Luke then sets himself to redeeming his father -- and succeeds, as Vader [[RedemptionEqualsDeath gets himself mortally wounded while]] [[HeroicSacrifice killing the Emperor to save Luke.]] After his death, Luke honors his father with [[DueToTheDead a Jedi funeral]] and is then happy to see Anakin's Force Ghost. |
| 169 | ** In ''Film/TheLastJedi'' (Sequel Trilogy), after admiring Luke as a myth and looking forward to meeting him, Rey is more than a little shocked when he gives her the cold shoulder and reveals himself as a bitter old hermit who lost faith in trying to rebuild the Jedi Order. Then his HeroicSacrifice to delay the invasion of the Resistance base on Crait happens, and further in ''Film/TheRiseOfSkywalker'' he encourages her as a Force ghost and gives her his X-Wing, and ends up among the Jedi who talk to/empower Rey as she's facing Palpatine with two lightsabers. In the end, Rey adopts the Skywalker name for herself to honor Luke (and Leia). |
| 170 | * In ''Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay'', John Connor learns and reflects that [[CassandraTruth his institutionalized mother was right]] about the end of the world and the RobotWar. |
| 171 | * At the start of ''Film/TransformersAgeOfExtinction'', the Autobots have lost faith in the human race, understandable given [[HumansAreBastards that humans have been hunting them ruthlessly and cannibalizing their corpses to make knock-off Transformers]]. Indeed, ahead of the final battle, the Autobots intend to abandon Earth after the fight. However, the Yeager Family's heroism alongside them [[RestoredMyFaithInHumanity reinvigorates their belief]] in how good humans ''can'' be. [[spoiler:[[Film/TransformersTheLastKnight If only the feelings were mutual.]]]] |
| 172 | * In ''Film/TheWorldsEnd'', Andy eventually forgives Gary for years of ToxicFriendInfluence, although the two part ways afterward, seemingly for good. As Andy says in the closing narration, "Wherever he is, I hope he's happy. That's all he ever wanted really -- to have a good time. I just hope he found it not at the bottom of a glass". |
| 173 | [[/folder]] |
| 174 | |
| 175 | [[folder:Literature]] |
| 176 | * ''Literature/TheCalfOfTheNovemberCloud'': The boys and girls of the age-group of the Big Ostrich Feathers idolized and admired Konyek because of his kindness, wisdom and bravery until Parmet told them his cousin cowardly ran away when a band of cattle raiders stole the livestock which Konyek was supposed to protect. Several months later Konyek returned to his hamlet, having gone through many dangerous hardships to retrieve his father's stolen calf, and declared that Parmet fled and intentionally left him for dead when he was attacked and wounded by the raiders. When a witness verifies his tale, the kids shame Parmet and go back to looking up to Konyek. |
| 177 | * ''Literature/TheChosen'': Danny Saunders and his friend Reuven forgive Rebbe Saunders for his harsh treatment of his son Danny when he explains why he thought it necessary and how much pain it cost him as well. |
| 178 | * ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'': |
| 179 | ** Harry has a major falling-out with his mentor Ebenezer [=McCoy=] in the sixth book, upon finding out that he is the Blackstaff, a member of the White Council of Wizards with special ''carte blanche'' to break the Law of Magic in which Harry strongly believes -- not least because it was Ebenezer who ''taught'' said Laws to him in the first place. Notably, Ebenezer reacts with complete understanding for Harry's feelings -- and they ultimately reconcile (for the most part) after Harry learns from experience that sometimes, you ''need'' someone among the good guys who can break the Laws. |
| 180 | ** In ''Skin Game'', Butters views Harry as a FallenHero after everything that's happened since [[spoiler: he took up the Winter Mantle.]] Given that Harry's actions were rather morally dubious ''in'' context, Harry feels this is justified. Butters gets better after Harry proves he's still himself, happily enough. |
| 181 | * ''Literature/HarryPotter'': |
| 182 | ** Harry goes through this with Sirius Black in ''[[Literature/HarryPotterAndThePrisonerOfAzkaban The Prisoner of Azkaban]]''. Previously, all he knew about that man is that he was one of his parents' best friends, and the best man at their wedding. Then he discovers that Sirius was not only one of Voldemort's followers, but also the one who betrayed his parents to the Dark Lord and caused their deaths, naturally leading Harry to hate him. However, it's ultimately revealed that Sirius was actually a loyal friend to his parents and was framed for his crimes, which were actually committed by another one of his parents' friends, Peter Pettigrew, a.k.a. Wormtail, a.k.a. [[ItMakesSenseInContext Ron's pet rat Scabbers]]. After Harry learns the whole truth, Sirius develops into a ParentalSubstitute for him. |
| 183 | ** This also occurs with Harry's father James. Up until ''[[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheOrderOfThePhoenix The Order of the Phoenix]]'', Harry believed that [[DeceasedParentsAreTheBest both of his parents were essentially flawless]], and took particular pride whenever people mentioned that he looked exactly like his father. However, Harry loses almost all respect for James after discovering that he was once a gleeful and unrepentant bully, particularly towards Snape, and is especially disturbed by the notion that his mother Lily also hated him because of this. However, Harry comes to regain some of his admiration for his father after discussing these revelations with Sirius and Lupin, who explain that while James was indeed a major {{Jerkass}} as a teenager, he TookALevelInKindness and mellowed out in his final years at Hogwarts, after which Lily reciprocated his feelings and started dating him. They further explain that part of James' dislike of Snape was due to the latter's obsession with the Dark Arts, which James, whatever else he may have been, always hated, which also helps Harry come to terms with his father's unsavory behavior. |
| 184 | ** Then with Dumbledore of all people in [[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows the final book,]] after increasingly coming to the conclusions his reliance on and HeroWorship of him was [[AllUpToYou a little misplaced]] in the third book onward to that point. Possibly [[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheOrderOfThePhoenix the 5th]] to a lesser extent, after Dumbledore explains why he's been ignoring him. In the end, though, Harry eventually sees Dumbledore as a flawed human being, but overall still the mentor and BigGood that he's always been, who has always cared about and done his best to help and protect Harry. He may not have always succeeded, but the important thing is that he tried. |
| 185 | * ''Literature/JourneyToChaos'': During ''[[Literature/AMagesPower A Mage's Power]]'', Eric had a falling out with his magical mentor, Dengel, after learning that Dengel was not a benevolent sage and more of a backstabbing powermonger. After traveling to Dengel's Cehian Lair in ''Literature/LoomingShadow'', he meets "Grey Dengel", which is a ghost of the real Dengel representing his scholarly aspect. They undertake a vision quest and Eric begins to admire Dengel once more. He still doesn't like the real Dengel but after learning more about him, he also doesn't hate him. It is "Grey Dengel" who becomes his new role model. |
| 186 | [[/folder]] |
| 187 | |
| 188 | [[folder:Live-Action TV]] |
| 189 | * In the finale to ''Series/TwentyFour'' Season 8, Jack has regained some trust in Allison Taylor after discovering that [[spoiler:she ultimately broke off her alliance with Charles Logan and has gone on to expose Russia's involvement in the attacks on New York earlier on as well as Logan's and her own involvement in covering it up even though it will mean the end of her Presidency. Dalia Hassan, having similarly lost faith in Taylor after discovering she's been protecting Russia despite them causing the death of her husband, is also shown to have gained some respect back]]. |
| 190 | * In ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'', this applies to the ArcVillain of all people. Raina is upset to discover that The Clairvoyant isn't really psychic and lied to her about it, but when he later gets legitimate abilities, she starts warming back up to him. (As a primary motivation in his manipulation of her was to attain the exact kind of greater awareness she thought he had, she probably came to see it as a kind of SelfFulfillingProphecy.) |
| 191 | * In Season 2 of ''Series/{{Arrow}}'' Oliver loses virtually all respect for Laurel when he sees just how bad her addiction problems are, and dismisses [[CassandraTruth her warnings]] that Sebastian Blood is a VillainWithGoodPublicity. She eventually gets sober and finally acquires concrete proof that Blood is evil, and they reconcile after she finds out his SecretIdentity and urges him not to give up against Slade Wilson [[spoiler:after his mother's murder]]. In a partial subversion though, their relationship remains somewhat rocky [[spoiler:until her death]]. |
| 192 | * In, of all things, ''Series/TheBigBangTheory'', Sheldon's admiration for Wil Wheaton returns when Wheaton gives the autographed action figure he missed out on when he was young. |
| 193 | * An episode of ''Series/ColdCase'' had Creator/ChadwickBoseman as an idealistic young councilman who was found murdered under suspicious, drug-related circumstances that caused a lot of his constituents and other locals to turn their backs on him. As the investigation unfolds, it's eventually revealed that he was trying his best to stop the drug-dealing and the like-minded conditions, only for an acquaintance of his to become disillusioned by everything and kill him anyway. At the episode's end, with his good name renewed, a headline in the paper about him reads "Faith Restored". |
| 194 | * In ''Series/DiagnosisMurder'', Mark Sloan hated his father for supposedly abandoning him and his mother when he was a boy, with the last he saw of him being what seemed like an empty promise to go see a baseball game. Mark's respect for his father is restored when he discovers that he never abandoned his family...he was murdered by a DirtyCop. |
| 195 | * ''Series/DoctorWho'': |
| 196 | ** [[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E2TheShakespeareCode "The Shakespeare Code":]] The Doctor is somewhat taken aback when the first thing Shakespeare does onscreen is shout "SHUT YOUR BIG FAT MOUTHS!" By the end of the episode, he's back to admiring him because, personality flaws aside, he really is brilliant and was instrumental in defeating the MonsterOfTheWeek. |
| 197 | ** Series 9 contains the example of Ashildr, a Viking girl who was given immortality by the Doctor. At first, she becomes a BrokenAce, as she has to live for centuries, watching everyone else (including her children) die around her, and when they meet again, the Doctor refuses to take her as a traveling companion. However, her pedestal gets rebuilt when she has a HeelRealization and the Doctor explains ''why'' he won't travel with her — it's because they're too similar. Immortals like them need "mayflies" (ordinary, mortal human beings) who realize the fragility and preciousness of life. Then it's sort of zig-zagged at the end of the series when she [[spoiler:is indirectly responsible for Clara's death, even though she didn't want to be, and then the Doctor more-or-less forgives her eventually after having a HeelRealization of his own.]] |
| 198 | * In the Mexican telenovela ''Series/ElPrivilegioDeAmar'', Cristina used to admire Luciana and see her as a role model, but, after Cristina began to date Luciana's stepson Victor Manuel, Luciana erroneously considered Cristina as a GoldDigger and became very cruel to her. Luciana had a HeelFaceTurn after she discovered that Cristina was [[spoiler:her [[LongLostRelative biological daughter]]]] and tried to fix the damage she caused, but [[ReformedButRejected Cristina was too resentful to forgive Luciana.]] Cristina came to respect and admire Luciana again (and also [[spoiler: embrace their biologial ties, calling Luciana "mother",]] which she was unwilling to do before) after the latter [[spoiler:went full MamaBear mode to save Cristina from being killed by Tamara (Cristina's AxCrazy rival), nearly dying in the process, surviving thanks to a blood donation from Cristina.]] |
| 199 | * In Season 6 of ''Series/GameOfThrones'', several of the Northern houses refuse to help [[BrotherSisterTeam Jon and Sansa]] in retaking their home Winterfell from the Boltons due to their brother Robb's TragicMistake, which led to the Red Wedding. However, after Jon and Sansa successfully retake Winterfell and overthrow the Boltons, the Northern lords regret their mistake and vow to help House Stark (Jon and Sansa's family) when winter approaches by declaring Jon as the new King in the North, since Jon (with his knowledge and experience with the oncoming [[GreaterScopeVillain true threat]]) can lead them in [[ZombieApocalypse the wars to come.]] |
| 200 | * Played straight and subverted in ''Series/{{Heroes}}''. One of Hiro's favorite childhood stories is that of Takezo Kensei, a brave samurai who protected the weak and gave his life for his beliefs. Using his abilities, Hiro accidentally travels to Medieval Japan and meets the real Takezo Kensei, or rather Adam Monroe, a Brit who cares only about easy money. After Hiro's interference results in Adam discovering his HealingFactor, Hiro convinces Adam to be the hero he remembers from those childhood stories. Unfortunately, Hiro then messes it up by getting Adam's LoveInterest to fall for himself instead. When Adam witnesses this betrayal, he makes a FaceHeelTurn and becomes a villain who nearly destroys the world centuries later. Then zigzagged again when said LoveInterest makes Hiro realize that he was the real Takezo Kensei all along. |
| 201 | * The ''Series/{{Highlander}}'' TV series went through this in a major story arc. Duncan finds out that his [[CynicalMentor Cynical]][=/=]BigBrotherMentor Methos is a RetiredMonster that was a member of the four Immortal marauders who went on an epic RapePillageAndBurn spree across multiple continents back in the Bronze Age. This also included Methos turning Duncan's SexyMentor Cassandra into his SexSlave. Duncan angrily declares their friendship over, but after Methos prevents the reunited Horsemen from [[TakeOverTheWorld taking over the world,]] helps Duncan bring them down from the inside and expresses regret for his past actions, they patch their relationship up. |
| 202 | * ''Series/ICarly2021'': In the episode "iHate Carly", Carly is attempting to track down the identity of an internet troll who has been harassing her. The troll turns out to be Justin, the guy she's been dating. Justin reveals that the reason he's been attacking her is because he was a huge fan of iCarly when he was a boy, but was hurt because a video he sent her of him reciting a poem was never played on the show. But after getting to know how wonderful Carly is, he got over it. |
| 203 | * ''Series/{{MASH}}'': This trope is at the center of the episode "Fallen Idol". Radar, when sent to Tokyo by Hawkeye to try and meet a woman, is caught in the crossfire of a battle and injured. Hawkeye blames himself, and after seeing Radar amongst the wounded goes and gets so drunk that he's too hungover to operate the next day. This failure leads to Hawkeye yelling at the injured Radar, which leads to Colonel Potter and [[BewareTheNiceOnes Father Mulcahy]] yelling at ''him'', which makes him go back and apologize to Radar, who ''also'' tears into him. Fortunately, by the end Radar has come to forgive Hawkeye, who's gotten over his guilt, and they reconcile. |
| 204 | [[/folder]] |
| 205 | |
| 206 | [[folder:Video Games]] |
| 207 | * [[VideoGame/CastlevaniaBloodlines John Morris]] for his son Jonathan in ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaPortraitOfRuin''. Jonathan resents his father for only teaching him the basics of fighting before dying, and that he can’t use the Vampire Killer whip as a result, but after realizing that a non-Belmont using the whip shortens the life of the wielder if overused, he comes to realize why his father did what he did. |
| 208 | * ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'': |
| 209 | ** In ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'', Red XIII thinks that his father, Seto, abandoned the tribe during an invasion. When the party visits Cosmo Canyon, he learns that [[spoiler: [[YouShallNotPass Seto figured out that the brunt of the invasion would be coming from a secret cave, fought them all off]], [[FateWorseThanDeath and was permanently petrified in the process]].]] The Cosmo Canyon leader Bugenhagen didn't tell Red XIII because [[spoiler: both the about-to-be-petrified Seto ''and'' Red's mother]] made him swear to keep the secret (probably because back then Red XIII was a cub and wouldn't understand), and he genuinely didn't know that Red XIII had issues about it; then [[spoiler: he gradually revealed the truth to the party in the Cosmo Canyon quests, and when everything was said and done Red XIII proudly referred to himself as "the son of the brave warrior Seto", in front of the still-living-and-still-petrified Seto himself.]] |
| 210 | ** In ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyX'', Tidus hates his father Jecht for abandoning him and his mother, as well as for the way Jecht treated him while he was around. Over the course of the game, Tidus learns that his father was unwillingly brought to Spira, just like he was, and that Jecht went going from [[YouCantGoHomeAgain only wanting to get back home]] to being willing to help Braska with his pilgrimage to [[spoiler:performing a HeroicSacrifice]]. In the end, Tidus says that he still hates Jecht, but also admits that he's glad to have Jecht as a father. Jecht, for his part, just wanted to [[ToughLove make sure Tidus could take care of himself]], but also recognizes that [[MyGreatestFailure his methods left a lot to be desired]]. |
| 211 | * In the ''VideoGame/HeroesRise'' trilogy, you can pick Rebellion as your superhero idol at the very beginning. However, at the end of the second game, he turns out to be in league with President-Elect Victon and sets the PlayerCharacter up to get the people to give in to paranoia and support Victon's anti-Powered policies. However, during the final battle at the end of the third game, you are once again confronted by Rebellion. You have the option of trying to convince him to once again become the hero you remember and help you defeat Victon. |
| 212 | * In ''VideoGame/HyruleWarriorsAgeOfCalamity'', Teba actually ends up meeting his hero the Champion Revali, a Rito that is hailed a hero in their tribe for his feats and fighting ability. But Teba learns that Revali's personality is that of a petty jerk and is clearly disappointed that his tribe, and especially Teba himself, are worshipping this guy. Even at the end of the game, he remains formal and polite to Revali, but nothing more. The ''Guardiance of Remembrance'' DLC gave more cutscenes to this relationship, with Revali saving and striking up a friendship with Teba's son, Tulin, showing that his hero has a soft spot for children and [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold isn't as rude as he first appears]], all of which causes a delighted Teba to start seeing Revali in a new positive light. The extra scenes put a new spin in Teba's farewell to Revali, in regards to the "face behind the champion"; before the DLC was released, it came across as Teba seeing that his hero turned out to be a jerk, but after the DLC was released, it now comes across as Teba seeing that his hero is a much kinder person than he lets on. |
| 213 | * {{Subverted|Trope}} in ''VideoGame/JadeEmpire''. After realizing that [[spoiler:Sun Li masterminded the plan to steal the Water Dragon's power, Princess Sun Lian]] wonders if this reduces her father's culpability, but realizes he was still to blame. This is played straight in one quest in the Necropolis, in which the Open Palm solution is to convince the ghost of Mister Ren that his wife didn't mean to poison him and feels terrible about it. |
| 214 | * In ''VideoGame/MassEffect3'', due to Commander Shepard having worked with a known terrorist organisation and being responsible for [[spoiler: destroying an entire solar system]] in the previous game, there is a running subplot that Kaidan/Ashley no longer fully trust their former leader. Depending on Shepard's actions, the friendship can be repaired or destroyed entirely, [[spoiler: which in the latter case ends with Kaidan/Ashley's death]]. |
| 215 | ** This also applies to much of the rest of the galaxy, many of whom felt betrayed by Shepard's actions in ''2'', not realizing the full context and reason behind them, thus branding him/her a RogueAgent. When the reason for his/her actions finally becomes apparent, s/he essentially becomes the BigGood for the entire galaxy. |
| 216 | * ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid3SnakeEater'': Naked Snake/Big Boss' mentor/mother figure, The Boss, apparently defects to the Soviet Union, leading to Big Boss being sent to assassinate her and succeeding. Big Boss immediately regains his respect for her when he discovers that The Boss' defection was [[FakeDefector faked]] and that the whole mission was, in fact, a GovernmentConspiracy to get rid of her, spending [[MyGreatestFailure the rest of his life]] mourning for her and fighting in her name. |
| 217 | * ''VideoGame/MortalKombat11'': After two timelines ([[spoiler:plus many others]]) of turning against Raiden after being disillusioned, Liu Kang finally regains his trust in the God of Thunder after learning that they were being manipulated by the GreaterScopeVillain. |
| 218 | * ''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia'': |
| 219 | ** Raine Sage resents her mother [[spoiler:Virginia]] for abandoning her and Genis. However, in a side quest, she eventually learns that the Imperial Research Academy had sought her mother for her intellect, and she did what she had to in order to protect them, [[spoiler:even if it eventually [[GoMadFromTheRevelation crushed her heart and mind]]]]. |
| 220 | ** To an extent, this applies with [[spoiler:Kratos]], as Lloyd starts out disliking him, then realizes that he can benefit from his experience, then is outraged by his betrayal, then questions his motivations before concluding he’s still his enemy, then is shaken by the revelation that he’s [[spoiler:his father]], then finally accepts him. |
| 221 | * [[spoiler:Mr. Hanekoma]], also known as CAT, in ''VideoGame/TheWorldEndsWithYou''. Neku is amazed to find out that he's CAT, the one person he admired, but is gradually shaken as signs seem to point to him also being the Composer, Neku's main adversary. It ultimately turns out that he isn't. |
| 222 | ** It's hinted that he might be [[spoiler:something ''[[{{Satan}} worse]]'' than [[{{God}} the Composer]], though. Which is a double subversion itself, seeing that, [[WellIntentionedExtremist despite his methods, he's still looking after humanity]]. A rare benevolent example of this trope, to boot!]] |
| 223 | * Garrosh Hellscream in ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'', grew up thinking of his father, Grom Hellscream, as a villain for leading the orcs to drink demonic blood and be corrupted, but realizes that his father also gave his life to kill the demon responsible for their curse. |
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| 226 | [[folder:Visual Novels]] |
| 227 | * In ''VisualNovel/LittleBusters'', Riki pretty much adores BigBrotherMentor Kyousuke, following his every word like a chick after its mother and thinking of him as, if not perfect, then certainly ''incredible''. [[spoiler:So when he organises for Rin to be sent to a place where she's miserable and refuses to let her return, he's utterly heartbroken. But when he sees how much the whole thing is affecting him and gets the full story, his faith is restored.]] In this case, though, things don't go right back to the way they were -- Riki still loves him dearly, but now he's able to see him in a more objective way, as an equal rather than a better. |
| 228 | * In ''VisualNovel/MyVowToMyLiege'', [[SweetPollyOliver Fuchai]] has a [[RageAgainstTheMentor rocky relationship]] with Wu Zixu, but after the worst of their fights, she manages to reconcile with him, admitting that he's important to her and that she knows [[ToughLove he has]] [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold good intentions]], even if she's still going to follow her own judgment and do things that he disagrees with. It's possible to romance him later on equitable terms. |
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| 231 | [[folder:Web Animation]] |
| 232 | * ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'': [[BigGood Professor Ozpin]] hides the AwfulTruth about the SecretWar with [[BigBad Salem]] because he's so used to friends and allies turning on him when they learn the truth; he's left [[HeroicBSOD shattered]] when the heroes [[BrokenPedestal do the same]]. It takes time and growth on both sides, but the damage done to Ozpin's image isn't irreparable. [[spoiler:Ozpin spends Volume 8 doing everything in his power to help Oscar while in captivity, both giving and receiving trust. Once reunited with the others, Oscar explains how Ozpin is the reason he's alive and Salem's temporarily incapacitated. Ozpin personally apologises to them for hiding the truth and running when they learned it; in turn, the heroes admit that trusting others isn't as simple as they thought, given their own recent mistakes with [[TheParanoiac Ironwood]], and forgive him.]] |
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| 235 | [[folder:Web Videos]] |
| 236 | * Mike Matei from ''Creator/{{Cinemassacre}}'' reacted poorly when he discovered the WebVideo/JoueurDuGrenier, a French game reviewer heavily influenced by [[WebVideo/TheAngryVideoGameNerd the AVGN]], but with key differences, [[note]]They both try their best to not review the same games, or a least treat them differently. Moreso, while the AVGN's humor is more based on vulgarity and poop jokes, JDG relies on silliness, parody, and puns.[[/note]] calling him a plagiarizer nonetheless. The two had a talk about this and Matei later admitted that [=JdG=] is, in fact, not the copycat he thought he was. |
| 237 | * In ''Franchise/{{Noob}}'', [[spoiler:Fantöm]] is working to achieve this step by step. His teammates were the first to get their esteem back after it turned out that he was LockedOutOfTheLoop about what had broken the pedestal in the first place, but the general public is taking a little longer. |
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| 240 | [[folder:Western Animation]] |
| 241 | * The ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' episode "Beware the Gray Ghost". The eponymous character ([[CastingGag voiced by]] Creator/AdamWest) was the hero of a ShowWithinAShow that Bruce Wayne loved as a child, and an inspiration to the latter's own vigilantism. The actor, although not mean, is a bitter old man who has suffered from long-term unemployment, and briefly [[CreatorBacklash grows to hate his old role]]. Batman is quite disappointed when this SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome occurs, but once it turns out that rediscovering the past is vital to solving a crime, the actor fortunately rediscovers his passion, saves Batman's life and aids him on his quest, and the episode ends on a very high note with Bruce going so far as to trust him with his identity. |
| 242 | * ''WesternAnimation/DuckTales1987'': In "[[Recap/DuckTalesS1E4WhereNoDuckHasGoneBefore Where No Duck Has Gone Before]]", the boys meet the unpleasant actor who plays Courage of the Cosmos, their favorite TV hero, to their delight and Launchpad's irritation. The current events and Launchpad's standoffish behaviour lead the kids to dismiss him as just being jealous of Courage. Doofus seems particularly broken by the prospect of his BigBrotherMentor acting like a petty {{Jerkass}}. Naturally when Launchpad is vindicated (and Courage proves to be a MilesGloriosus) Doofus is the first to acknowledge this error and proudly declare Launchpad to be a ''real'' hero. |
| 243 | * The penultimate episode of Season 1 of ''WesternAnimation/DuckTales2017'' has the triplets losing their respect for Scrooge when [[spoiler:they blame him for the disappearance of their mother]]. They regain it back in the following episode after [[spoiler:some talking down to by Mrs. Beakley, with the return of Magica De Spell accelerating the reunion]]. |
| 244 | * In ''WesternAnimation/GeneratorRex'', Rex comes to resent his brother Cesar in season 3 for seemingly betraying him by siding with Providence under Black Knight. The brothers make up in the GrandFinale after Cesar reveals the reasons behind his actions. |
| 245 | * ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'': "Not What He Seems" shows both the twins and Soos losing respect and trust for Grunkle Stan after he [[spoiler:arrested by government agents]]. They eventually regained it back when Stan told his side of his story, and that [[spoiler:his years of deception and secretly building a dangerous interdimensional portal were for the sake of rescuing his brother Ford]]. |
| 246 | * ''WesternAnimation/HeyArnold'' features Eugene's idol, a parody of Creator/ArnoldSchwarzenegger. Eugene gets to meet him but sees him being a spoiled, entitled, nitpicky manchild who treats Eugene with apathy. Upset, Eugene trashes everything and starts acting up. Eugene's idol, however, realizes he let someone who liked him down and manages to regain Eugene's liking in the end, even saving both Eugene and Arnold's lives at great personal risk. |
| 247 | ** Another example is when Arnold met his favorite author who became bitter and angry after years of writer's block, but Arnold's faith to her despite her cruel treatment of him brought her back to writing. |
| 248 | ** "Monkeyman!" features the episode's titular character regaining Sid's admiration by personally retrieving the boots whose theft broke Sid's faith (and the audience forgiving him probably was helped by them seeing that he legitimately hadn't known Sid had been in trouble and was genuinely horrified that his fan had gotten hurt). |
| 249 | * In ''WesternAnimation/JackieChanAdventures'', Paco becomes disillusioned with his idol, the MaskedLuchador El Toro Fuerte, when he discovers El Toro had been cheating in his matches by equipping himself with the Ox Talisman which gives its bearer SuperStrength. When Jackie is kidnapped and El Toro bravely comes to his rescue even though he no longer had the talisman, Paco respects him again. |
| 250 | * The titular heroine from ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' had lost respect for her father after learning it was he who had her locked in the South Pole for her Avatar training instead of Aang, and for withholding that he was next in line for chief of the Northern water tribe until banishment. In the episodes that followed, she learned her uncle had [[spoiler: manipulated her father so that he could become Chief of the North]] and her father admitting he was always proud of her, Korra reconciles with him. Same with Tenzin, who had a hand in keeping her in the compound. Further strengthened in the third season, which reveals ''why'' they kept her in a compound in the first place: the Red Lotus, a splinter faction of the White Lotus wanted to kidnap and raise her for their own ends. |
| 251 | * In the ''WesternAnimation/PAWPatrol'' episode "Mission PAW: Quest for the Crown", the Princess loses faith in Chase after he is falsely accused of stealing the crown. However, the pups' retrieval mission reveals that it was actually the royal pup Sweetie who stole it, and the Princess once again declares Chase her favourite PAW Patrol pup. |
| 252 | * The ''WesternAnimation/PoundPuppies1980s'' episode "Ghost Hounders" had Whopper's hero Biff Barker, who played a ghost hunter on television and is summoned by the Pound Puppies to take care of a ghost known as the Terrible Terrier. Whopper loses his respect for Biff Barker when he turns out to be a coward in real life, but he starts liking him again after Biff learns the truth behind Terrible Terrier and unhesitatingly comes to the Pound Puppies' rescue. |
| 253 | * ''WesternAnimation/TheRaccoons'': In "[[Recap/TheRaccoonsS5E1ColdFeet Cold Feet!]]", Cyril Sneer develops a relationship with movie star Ingrid Bellamour, but when she finds out he supports the Rotco Corporation and their unethical business practices (which she's actively campaigning ''against''), she loses faith in him and has an article in the newspaper published about it. However, she feels sorry for him after the ensuing backlash, and Cyril redeems himself by donating the money for the Rotco deal to her "Save The World" Fund. |
| 254 | * ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'': |
| 255 | ** In "Tiger Millionaire", [[TagalongKid Steven]] and [[BigFun Amethyst]] become masked wrestlers and the former [[LikesClarkKentHatesSuperman gain the admiration]] of Lars. Later, Steven accidentally overdoes his {{heel}} behavior enough for Lars to hate him, leading to his own HeelRealization. He manages to fix things later by making an impassioned speech and defeating the League of Wrestling Haters (actually just [[TheStoic Garnet]] and [[TheSmartGuy Pearl]] playing along), winning back him and the rest of the crowd. |
| 256 | ** Later, this happens with Rose Quartz, in Sapphire's eyes. [[spoiler:She did ''not'' take the reveal that [[TheLeader Rose Quartz]] was actually [[BigBad Pink Diamond]] in disguise well, assuming that it was all just Pink's way of entertaining herself with her subjects by playing both sides of the war. However, after Pearl gives her the full story of how Rose ended up as the leader of LaResistance, Sapphire realizes that while it might have ''started out'' that way, in the end, Rose genuinely loved her friends.]] |
| 257 | ** Subverted with the titular character. A big part of Steven's arc is getting to know his late mother better. As the seasons go on, Steven becomes disillusioned with her as he becomes privy to her various hypocrisies, lies, and selfishness. This comes to a head in Season 5 with [[spoiler:the reveal of her true identity as Pink Diamond and her part in orchestrating the war]]. Steven does come to understand her situation more, sympathizing with how trapped she was in her various façades and acknowledge how her desire to help others was genuine. But because he still has to deal with the fallout of her actions regardless, in addition to meeting more and more people who his mother's behavior has greatly hurt, he continues to hold a lot of resentment towards her that only grows as he gets older. Overall, Rose is an example of WartsAndAll as far as he's concerned. |
| 258 | * ''WesternAnimation/SuperRobotMonkeyTeamHyperforceGo'': |
| 259 | ** Chiro idolizes TV superheroes called the Sun Riders until they make a DealWithTheDevil and attack him and the team. He gets so mad after that battle, he immediately starts smashing his Sun Riders merchandise. Fifteen episodes later, the Monkey Team goes to a nearby planet where they discover the Sun Riders are protecting an endangered colony of miners. Chiro distrusts them after having been betrayed by them before, but the Sun Riders prove they have reformed and turned into the heroes Chiro admired. |
| 260 | ** [[BadassNormal Mobius Quint]], an AcePilot who Sprx admired until the same thing happened to him via the Citadel of Bone. But unlike Offay, he was [[YouAreWhatYouHate talked back to his senses]]. |
| 261 | ** Also, Nova's OldMaster Offay, who was made BrainwashedAndCrazy by the Dark One Worm, but then returned to his senses after losing to Chiro. |
| 262 | * ''WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2003'': In ''[[Recap/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2003S6E8ClashOfTheTurtleTitans Clash Of The Turtle Titans]]'', when Mikey discovers that someone in the future has taken the legacy of his superhero persona Turtle Titan, and becomes jealous about this and confronts the new Turtle Titan. His successor is then disgusted about to see how petty and jealous Mikey is, and almost abandons the alter ego in response to this. However, after the two Turtle Titans team up to defeat Triple Threat, [[spoiler:and after Michelangelo learns his successor is the grandson of his idol, Silver Sentry,]] he accepts the new Turtle Titan and allows him to continue what he's doing, knowing that the legacy of his alter ego is in good hands. |
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