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1	* Wait, Birdhair was by the MMBN character designer? This ''isn't'' a massive conflict of interest?
2	** It bugs me this frame of thought bugs so many people. Since artists from all over the franchise were in that same design contest. The way I see it that's not a conflict of interest; that was the interest in the conflict.
3	* You see any cows on Kattelox island? Where the hell are the Servbots getting the meat? Film/SoylentGreen is Carbons!
4	** Fish, bird, tofu, and seitan.
5	* How exactly does the model and class ranking system work? In real life, the best rank might be the lowest number or it might be the highest number.
6	** Models are synonymous with classes in here AFAIK. The class rankings go something like this, highest to lowest:
7	*** The Master (President\|Now deceased)
8	*** Yuna and Sera (Congresspersons)
9	*** Bureaucratic Models (Politicians governor and below\|Juno's Normal form)
10	*** Purifier-Purifier Models (Internal Affairs agents\|Juno's [[OneWingedAngel second body]])
11	*** Purifier Models (Cops\|Volnutt)
12	*** Giant Reaverbots (Second Amendment Junkies)
13	*** Normal Reaverbots (Average Joe)
14	* Okay, this has to be asked: ''what the Hell ended the world?!''
15	** Dr. Wily, Sigma, Dr. Weil, Zero.
16	** As far as I can see; the series being retconned into the end of the timeline did. Hell if the conclusion of the X series, the Zero Series, and ZX series actually had the exact scenario planned. But what they knew they were doing was driving the headcount down towards the last human.
17	** Given the ending to ZX Advent, and the lack of a sequel, the safest assumption seems to be that Master Thomas succeeded in resetting the world somehow.
18	* Do we ever have any actual proof Juno's backup data was deleted? Acknowledging a reroute command does not confirm deletion of data.
19	** Kinda just have to take their word at it. All the rest of Data's commands seem to have been followed.
20	** The events surrounding the primary antagonists of Legends 2 give the implication that the Master System and all of its associated units follow their designated protocols without question. That would include obeying the commands of a unit with a higher System ranking. Data gave the proper override commands, therefore the System did as it was told.
21	* How does Trigger use things like his vacuum arm? He's practically missing half his arm.
22	** He removes his forearm and attaches the weapon to his stump.
23	* Cybernetics are apparently common in the Legends timeline, yet no one ever questions why Mega Man is already equipped with a gun and can replace an entire arm with a weapon and immediately use it properly.
24	** He's not replacing his actual arm: he's replacing the arm section of his armor: his actual arm goes inside the weapon.
25	*** He's removing at least part of his right forearm. Some of his weapons are shorter than his forearm, so there's no room for his arm inside it. He might be swapping out his other forearm for the buster, as the buster also looks too narrow, and maybe too short, for his fist to fit, or he might be transforming his arm. Other Master System robots of similar status as him are capable of transformation, after all.
26	** As you said, cybernetics are common. People that see him in armor probably assume that both his arms are robotic, which they technically are.
27	* Everyone's ears were covered (or cybernetically replaced) in the Mega Man ZX series. Why are everyone's ears exposed now?
28	** Because these aren't humans, or even the human/reploid hybrids of ZX. These are a humanoid-robot slave race known as the "carbons" left behind by the extinction of their human/reploid creators, who were presumably mostly earless.
29	* Why do the Carbons keep getting referred to as a "slave race"? Their purpose was never stated one way or the other. For all we know, the Master created them so he could spend his solitude playing Sim-City.
30	** The carbons are modified betas, whatever those are, and don't seem to have an specific purpose. The reaverbots seem to have been the actual workforce back when the humans were still around.
31	** Are the Reaverbots really the old workforce? They seem to be made specifically for combat so at most they are the old security and military force.
32	* Are Volnutt, Juno, Data, Sera, and Yuna all Reploids and not Carbons? They seem to be of a much more robotic nature, what with being able to be sealed away for extremely long periods of time without any nutrients. Not to mention, Juno constantly refers to the Carbons as if he's not one of them, and if I recall correctly, wasn't there a part of the Japanese script of the first game that features Mega Man being called an "Irregular Hunter" (AKA Maverick Hunter)? It's just strange how the games mention the Master was the last human, but these characters are the last Reploids and nobody cares.
33	** I think it's because 1: There are 10000 robots on Eden station, and two, from a very cynical perspective, you can just build more robots. Granted, you could also clone more humans, which was the plan, but right now there doesn't seem to be any sort of interdiction against that, unlike the humans.
34	** They seem to be ''reaverbots'', actually, just with the ability to assume humanoid form, most apparent with Gatz and Geetz. Given the vast length between the ZX and the Legends eras, they're probably something new. They might be betas, but the games never did give a lot of detail on the backstory.
35	** The common people probably have no clue what a Reploid is. Even their own robotics have regressed, with Servbots being Robot Master-level at best.
36	** Also, reploids are based on X's design. Volnutt and the others are implied to be able to reproduce somehow (nanomachines maybe?) because they have libido. Even X and Zero never seemed to show any, err, more basic reactions to their love interests. Volnutt actively blushed seeing Tron and Roll naked.
37	* Why does Teisel Bonne look and sound like a 50 year old if he is 29? Also, is he a cyborg? He and Tron are siblings, but she looks human.
38	** The beginning of Legends 2 shows that Teisel's iconic look is just armor. He actually has a human body underneath it.
39	* Do the Mega Man Legends games take place in an alternate universe? The Mega Man in these games seems like a totally different person. In this world, him and Roll come off as adventurers who are obsessed with exploring the world and treasure hunting.
40	** It's in the same universe as the main timeline, but over a thousand years further into the future. They seem like totally different people because they ARE totally different people. As it stands, the timeline is Classic, X, Zero, ZX, then a massive time skip to Legends.
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42	* I watched a Let's Play of Legends 2 recently, and am wondering how Barrell Caskett did not know that the same pirates who attacked Kattelox Island in 1 were on the Sulphur-Bottom the whole time during the beginning of 2.
43	** Barrell never directly ''met'' the Bonnes. He would recognize the ships but not the people (Roll and Mega Man should've recognized them though). Plus they were in disguise.
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45	* The bit that annoyed me is that Megaman never told Roll or Barrell about what happened between him and Juno. Why did he not say anything to them? Did Data brainwash him to forget it offscreen?
46	** Anime characters (And this game is very much in an anime style) have this weird habit of not saying anything they consider "unimportant." Part of it seems to be thinking that information will just worry people. Also Megaman seems like the type to just not think about it because his mind is all on his next adventure or whatever he's doing at the moment.
47	** Also, Juno implied that Megaman was involved in some kind of underground ethnic cleansing program meant to kill everyone deemed to be "pests". Given he had no memories and Data said they were in hiding from Mother... Yeah, Megaman probably didn't want to admit he was created for mass murder while also making his family worry about a potential threat that even he didn't understand. Plus, given Roll's need to find her parents, she may have chased after Megaman's past in a similar fashion had Megaman shared his concerns. Videogame/NamcoXCapcom outright shows that Megaman is very insecure about the fact that he doesn't remember his past despite it all being stored in Data. Barrel, on the other hand, may have benefitted from knowing all the details so he could research it, but again, Megaman would have every reason to not have someone running around poking at the genocidal monster hiding under the bed.
48	* In the second game it's mentioned that because of how much debt they are in, the Bonnes need to find the Mother Lode in order to break even. As in, a legendary treasure that will supply endless energy will only let them break even? How much money could they have possibly lost in that store?
49	** Hyperbole most likely. Also Tiesel seems the type to go for "that one big score" that would pay off their debts and let them live in luxury forever.
50	* It is implied that Carbons are a mix between organic, mechanical pieces, cybernetics, and maybe nanomachines. Instead of being 100% artificial, they were most likely made based on human DNA with something like nanomachines helping the more mechanical ones reproduce. That means the humans called them "Carbons" to dehumanize them because they aren't "pure" humans. Is that actually the case, though or are they 100% artificial? They are able to reproduce just like humans and look completely human in most cases. Even if they are a new species, you could probably call them "homo sapien mechanicus" or something. Also, if that's the case, then just why did humans hate them so much? Assuming technology would have allowed humans and carbons to cross breed, then the last "humans" were basically just racists with extra steps, right? We don't know for sure that Carbons and humans could cross breed, but given how advanced they were, something equivalent could be achieved given Tron sees her Servbots as her children and no one argues with that assessment.

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