History YMMV / Xenoblade

6th Aug '17 12:13:47 PM ACW
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** Originally a [[DirtyCoward slimy, cowardly weasel of a man]], [[spoiler:Mumkhar]] ends up becoming something [[FromNobodyToNightmare far worse entirely]] . After [[spoiler:smugly leaving his close friends Dunban and Dickson to die on the battlefield]], he is captured by the robotic Mechon and turned into one of their own, and willingly betrays his people by throwing in his lot with the Mechon and aiding them in their conquest. Going by the name of Metal Face, he leads a squad of Mechon in an attack on Colony 9, slaughters scores of people, and personally murders [[spoiler:Dunban's sister Fiora]], all [[EvilIsPetty out of hatred, envy, and spite towards the man]], and gleefully brags about it to [[spoiler: [[TheHero Shulk]], her]] LoveInterest. Later on, he leads an assault on Eryth Sea, which ends with him killing [[spoiler:Sorean, the emperor of the High Entia]]. After his final defeat at the hands of Shulk and company, he doesn't hesitate to try to murder them all [[UngratefulBastard after they decide to spare his life]]. Fueled entirely by spite and cruelty, Metal Face cements his status as one of the party's most hated enemies.

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** Originally a [[DirtyCoward slimy, cowardly weasel of a man]], [[spoiler:Mumkhar]] ends up becoming something [[FromNobodyToNightmare far worse entirely]] . After [[spoiler:smugly leaving his close friends Dunban and Dickson to die on the battlefield]], he is captured by the robotic Mechon and turned into one of their own, and willingly betrays his people by throwing in his lot with the Mechon and aiding them in their conquest. Going by the name of Metal Face, he leads a squad of Mechon in an attack on Colony 9, slaughters scores of people, and personally murders [[spoiler:Dunban's Dunban's sister Fiora]], Fiora, all [[EvilIsPetty out of hatred, envy, and spite towards the man]], and gleefully brags about it to [[spoiler: [[TheHero Shulk]], her]] her LoveInterest. Later on, he leads an assault on Eryth Sea, which ends with him killing [[spoiler:Sorean, the emperor of the High Entia]]. After his final defeat at the hands of Shulk and company, he doesn't hesitate to try to murder them all [[UngratefulBastard after they decide to spare his life]]. Fueled entirely by spite and cruelty, Metal Face cements his status as one of the party's most hated enemies.
6th Aug '17 10:55:08 AM ReynTime250
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** [[spoiler:[[GodIsEvil Zanza]], formerly Klaus, is revealed to be the true BigBad and responsible for all the bad events in the game. In a flashback sequence it is shown that Zanza destroyed the entire universe before just to [[AGodAmI become a god]] which created the setting of the game. After doing so he used the Monado to [[DemonicPossession possess Arglas]] and destroy Agnirathia because he believed that the Machina were insolent. In the present day it is revealed that he possessed Shulk's body, killing him and then announcing that [[OmnicidalManiac his goal is to destroy and recreate the universe]], so he could survive and kills both Meyneth and Egil as he considers any being on the Bionis and the Mechonis to [[LackOfEmpathy be bacteria around his body]] before deciding to turn all the High Entia into Telethia. With no desire for destruction other than [[ItsAllAboutMe care for himself]],, and committing [[EvilIsPetty needlessly cruel acts]] simply ForTheEvulz, [[JerkassGods Zanza]] stands out in ''Xenoblade''.]]

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** [[spoiler:[[GodIsEvil Zanza]], formerly Klaus, is revealed to be the true BigBad and responsible for all the bad events in the game. In a flashback sequence it is shown that Zanza destroyed the entire universe before just to [[AGodAmI become a god]] which created the setting of the game. After doing so he used the Monado to [[DemonicPossession possess Arglas]] and destroy Agnirathia because he believed that the Machina were insolent. In the present day it is revealed that he possessed Shulk's body, killing him and then announcing that [[OmnicidalManiac his goal is to destroy and recreate the universe]], so he could survive and kills both Meyneth and Egil as he considers any being on the Bionis and the Mechonis to [[LackOfEmpathy be bacteria around his body]] before deciding to turn all the High Entia into Telethia. With no desire for destruction other than [[ItsAllAboutMe care for himself]],, himself]], and committing [[EvilIsPetty needlessly cruel acts]] simply ForTheEvulz, [[JerkassGods Zanza]] stands out in ''Xenoblade''.]]
6th Aug '17 10:07:31 AM ACW
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** [[spoiler:[[BitchInSheepsClothing Dickson]] starts the game off as a seemingly helpful [[EvilMentor mentor]] and father figure to our protagonists]], particularly [[TheHero Shulk]] and Dunban. This all changes after [[AllLovingHero Shulk]] refuses to kill [[spoiler:[[WellIntentionedExtremist Egil]]]] after defeating him. [[spoiler:Dickson]] shows up and shoots Shulk InTheBack, releasing his master Zanza, the true BigBad. He then reveals that he's [[PsychoSupporter Zanza's disciple]], and never cared at all for the people of Bionis, acting only to ensure Zanza was properly revived--then assisting in his wishes to kill off everyone so he can enact the destruction/reconstruction of the world. He tries to finish off the party with an army of Telethia, gleefully asserting that he's NotBrainwashed when they propose he is. When the High Entia army shows up to save the heroes, he and fellow disciple Lorithia [[BalefulPolymorph convert them all into mindless Telethia]], including [[spoiler:Melia's brother, Kallian, whose remarks to his sister]] whilst transforming they promptly mock. Shortly after this, he arrives in Colony 6, now the residence of the surviving people of Bionis, with more Telethia, [[OmnicidalManiac hoping to exterminate them all]]. He further taunts [[spoiler:Melia, mocking her brother]] by proposing he might be her boyfriend in the next life. Ultimately, he reveals his motivation for his actions is that [[AGodAmI he wants to have the powers of a god in the next world]]. Thus, he willingly helps Zanza's atrocities with a {{sadist}}ic [[SlasherSmile smile on his face]], no regrets or remorse, only feeling fear when it's hinted Shulk might be stronger than Zanza.]]

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** [[spoiler:[[BitchInSheepsClothing **[[spoiler:[[BitchInSheepsClothing Dickson]] starts the game off as a seemingly helpful [[EvilMentor mentor]] and father figure to our protagonists]], particularly [[TheHero Shulk]] and Dunban. This all changes after [[AllLovingHero Shulk]] refuses to kill [[spoiler:[[WellIntentionedExtremist Egil]]]] after defeating him. [[spoiler:Dickson]] shows up and shoots Shulk InTheBack, releasing his master Zanza, the true BigBad. He then reveals that he's [[PsychoSupporter Zanza's disciple]], and never cared at all for the people of Bionis, acting only to ensure Zanza was properly revived--then assisting in his wishes to kill off everyone so he can enact the destruction/reconstruction of the world. He tries to finish off the party with an army of Telethia, gleefully asserting that he's NotBrainwashed when they propose he is. When the High Entia army shows up to save the heroes, he and fellow disciple Lorithia [[BalefulPolymorph convert them all into mindless Telethia]], including [[spoiler:Melia's brother, Kallian, whose remarks to his sister]] whilst transforming they promptly mock. Shortly after this, he arrives in Colony 6, now the residence of the surviving people of Bionis, with more Telethia, [[OmnicidalManiac hoping to exterminate them all]]. He further taunts [[spoiler:Melia, mocking her brother]] by proposing he might be her boyfriend in the next life. Ultimately, he reveals his motivation for his actions is that [[AGodAmI he wants to have the powers of a god in the next world]]. Thus, he willingly helps Zanza's atrocities with a {{sadist}}ic [[SlasherSmile smile on his face]], no regrets or remorse, only feeling fear when it's hinted Shulk might be stronger than Zanza.]]
6th Aug '17 10:07:09 AM ACW
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** [[spoiler:Zanza takes Jerkass Gods to the extreme. Originally a mad scientist named Klaus, Zanza became obsessed with creating his own world and becoming a god. When he succeeded (notably, at the expense of ''our entire universe and those who lived in it''), Zanza became the creator of Monado with a catch: it turns out Zanza, whose initial appearance sets him up to be a benevolent Big Good helping to stop the Mechonis from tyrannizing those who live on Bionis, is actually a sociopathic Manipulative Bastard and the one who ''had'' been set up as the BigBad, Egil, was a Well-Intentioned Extremist trying to stop him. Zanza kills him before revealing his intent: to destroy the world, devouring and destroying every living soul within it, so he can start it anew and preserve his godhood. Zanza is driven by ego and a complete lack of feeling, especially given his counterpart, Lady Meyneth, is fully capable of understanding and protecting the people of both titans.]]
** Metal Face, formerly known as [[spoiler:Mumkhar]]. The very first thing he does is [[spoiler:ditch his friends in battle and supposedly gets himself killed. When he returns as Metal Face, he starts with the mass slaughter of the people of Colony 9 - notably murdering the protagonist's beloved girlfriend Fiora, who's also the sister of his former war colleague, setting in motion Shulk's quest to destroy all Mechon. Showing no remorse, Metal Face later reflects on the lovely sounds of Fiora's screams. Shortly thereafter, he throws the High Entia into chaos by offhandedly killing their Emperor, Sorean Antiqua. If that wasn't enough, he's also one of the ones in charge of morphing his victims into slave mooks. Even his own boss Egil is horrified at Metal Face's excessive atrocities, and his eventual destruction is mourned by none.]]
** [[spoiler:[[BitchInSheepsClothing Dickson]] starts the game off as a seemingly helpful mentor and father figure to our protagonists, particularly Shulk and Dunban. This all changes after [[AllLovingHero Shulk]] refuses to kill Egil after defeating him Dickson shows up and shoots Shulk {{in the back}}, releasing his master Zanza, the ''true'' Big Bad. He then reveals that he's Zanza's disciple, and never cared at all for the people of Bionis, acting only to ensure Zanza was properly revived - then assists in his wishes to kill off everyone so he can enact the destruction/reconstruction of the world. Dickson tries to finish off the party with an army of Telethia, gleefully asserting that he's {{not brainwashed}} when they propose he is. When the High Entia army shows up to save the heroes, he and fellow disciple Lorithia convert them all into mindless [[BalefulPolymorph Telethia]], including Melia's brother, Kallian, whose remarks to his sister whilst transforming they promptly mock. Shortly after this, Dickson arrives in Colony 6 (now the residence of the surviving people of Bionis) with more Telethia, [[OmnicidalManiac hoping to exterminate them all]]. He further taunts Melia, mocking her brother by proposing he might be her boyfriend in the next life. Ultimately, he reveals his motivation for his actions is that he wants to have the powers of a god in the next world. Thus, he willingly helps Zanza's atrocities with a {{sadist}}ic [[SlasherSmile smile on his face]], no regrets or remorse, only feeling fear when it's hinted Shulk might be stronger than Zanza.]]

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** [[spoiler:Zanza takes Jerkass Gods to the extreme. Originally a mad scientist named [[spoiler:[[GodIsEvil Zanza]], formerly Klaus, is revealed to be the true BigBad and responsible for all the bad events in the game. In a flashback sequence it is shown that Zanza became obsessed with creating his own world and becoming a god. When he succeeded (notably, at destroyed the expense of ''our entire universe and those who lived in it''), Zanza became before just to [[AGodAmI become a god]] which created the creator setting of the game. After doing so he used the Monado with a catch: to [[DemonicPossession possess Arglas]] and destroy Agnirathia because he believed that the Machina were insolent. In the present day it turns out Zanza, whose initial appearance sets is revealed that he possessed Shulk's body, killing him up and then announcing that [[OmnicidalManiac his goal is to be a benevolent Big Good helping to stop destroy and recreate the universe]], so he could survive and kills both Meyneth and Egil as he considers any being on the Bionis and the Mechonis from tyrannizing those who live on Bionis, is actually a sociopathic Manipulative Bastard and the one who ''had'' been set up as the BigBad, Egil, was a Well-Intentioned Extremist trying to stop him. Zanza kills him [[LackOfEmpathy be bacteria around his body]] before revealing his intent: deciding to destroy turn all the world, devouring High Entia into Telethia. With no desire for destruction other than [[ItsAllAboutMe care for himself]],, and destroying every living soul within it, so he can start it anew and preserve his godhood. Zanza is driven by ego and a complete lack of feeling, especially given his counterpart, Lady Meyneth, is fully capable of understanding and protecting the people of both titans.committing [[EvilIsPetty needlessly cruel acts]] simply ForTheEvulz, [[JerkassGods Zanza]] stands out in ''Xenoblade''.]]
** Metal Face, formerly known as [[spoiler:Mumkhar]]. The very first thing he does is [[spoiler:ditch **Originally a [[DirtyCoward slimy, cowardly weasel of a man]], [[spoiler:Mumkhar]] ends up becoming something [[FromNobodyToNightmare far worse entirely]] . After [[spoiler:smugly leaving his close friends in battle Dunban and supposedly gets himself killed. When Dickson to die on the battlefield]], he returns as is captured by the robotic Mechon and turned into one of their own, and willingly betrays his people by throwing in his lot with the Mechon and aiding them in their conquest. Going by the name of Metal Face, he starts leads a squad of Mechon in an attack on Colony 9, slaughters scores of people, and personally murders [[spoiler:Dunban's sister Fiora]], all [[EvilIsPetty out of hatred, envy, and spite towards the man]], and gleefully brags about it to [[spoiler: [[TheHero Shulk]], her]] LoveInterest. Later on, he leads an assault on Eryth Sea, which ends with him killing [[spoiler:Sorean, the mass slaughter emperor of the people of Colony 9 - notably murdering High Entia]]. After his final defeat at the protagonist's beloved girlfriend Fiora, who's also the sister hands of Shulk and company, he doesn't hesitate to try to murder them all [[UngratefulBastard after they decide to spare his former war colleague, setting in motion Shulk's quest to destroy all Mechon. Showing no remorse, life]]. Fueled entirely by spite and cruelty, Metal Face later reflects on the lovely sounds of Fiora's screams. Shortly thereafter, he throws the High Entia into chaos by offhandedly killing their Emperor, Sorean Antiqua. If that wasn't enough, he's also cements his status as one of the ones in charge of morphing his victims into slave mooks. Even his own boss Egil is horrified at Metal Face's excessive atrocities, and his eventual destruction is mourned by none.]]
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** [[spoiler:[[BitchInSheepsClothing Dickson]] starts the game off as a seemingly helpful mentor [[EvilMentor mentor]] and father figure to our protagonists, protagonists]], particularly Shulk [[TheHero Shulk]] and Dunban. This all changes after [[AllLovingHero Shulk]] refuses to kill Egil [[spoiler:[[WellIntentionedExtremist Egil]]]] after defeating him Dickson him. [[spoiler:Dickson]] shows up and shoots Shulk {{in the back}}, InTheBack, releasing his master Zanza, the ''true'' Big Bad. true BigBad. He then reveals that he's [[PsychoSupporter Zanza's disciple, disciple]], and never cared at all for the people of Bionis, acting only to ensure Zanza was properly revived - then assists revived--then assisting in his wishes to kill off everyone so he can enact the destruction/reconstruction of the world. Dickson He tries to finish off the party with an army of Telethia, gleefully asserting that he's {{not brainwashed}} NotBrainwashed when they propose he is. When the High Entia army shows up to save the heroes, he and fellow disciple Lorithia [[BalefulPolymorph convert them all into mindless [[BalefulPolymorph Telethia]], including Melia's [[spoiler:Melia's brother, Kallian, whose remarks to his sister sister]] whilst transforming they promptly mock. Shortly after this, Dickson he arrives in Colony 6 (now 6, now the residence of the surviving people of Bionis) Bionis, with more Telethia, [[OmnicidalManiac hoping to exterminate them all]]. He further taunts Melia, [[spoiler:Melia, mocking her brother brother]] by proposing he might be her boyfriend in the next life. Ultimately, he reveals his motivation for his actions is that [[AGodAmI he wants to have the powers of a god in the next world.world]]. Thus, he willingly helps Zanza's atrocities with a {{sadist}}ic [[SlasherSmile smile on his face]], no regrets or remorse, only feeling fear when it's hinted Shulk might be stronger than Zanza.]]
12th Jul '17 2:06:46 PM ReynTime250
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* TheScrappy: [[spoiler:Lorithia]], mainly because her boss fight is easily considered to be the most irritating battle in the game, bar none.
30th Apr '17 4:26:35 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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25th Apr '17 9:57:06 AM TokoWH
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** Completing nearly every sidequest as quickly as possible as soon as they open up. In order to encourage players to seek out side quests, completing sidequest usually gives you far more EXP and AP than you would from fighting monsters normally. This wouldn't be too game breaking in itself if not for the ''sheer amount'' of sidequests the game throws at you every time you reach a new area, and several of them being incredibly easy/quick to complete. Ultimately, going for OneHundredPercentCompletion usually results in characters being ''horrendously'' over leveled in comparison to what the game expects of you; often with them twenty/thirty levels higher in relation to the enemies in the area, up to including [[spoiler: ''the FinalBoss'']]. Money is also a complete non-issue because of this as well.
19th Mar '17 6:05:18 PM Doug86
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** Xord's voice is either this or a case of NarmCharm. You probably wouldn't expect a gigantic mechanical abomination to sound like a ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40k'' Ork, and the fact that he's the first Mechon you hear speak makes it even more jarring. Admittedly he does make for a fairly entertaining CardCarryingVillain, and the next Face Mechon you meet does manage to sound genuinely menacing.

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** Xord's voice is either this or a case of NarmCharm. You probably wouldn't expect a gigantic mechanical abomination to sound like a ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40k'' ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'' Ork, and the fact that he's the first Mechon you hear speak makes it even more jarring. Admittedly he does make for a fairly entertaining CardCarryingVillain, and the next Face Mechon you meet does manage to sound genuinely menacing.
2nd Mar '17 7:53:43 AM mlsmithca
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* SoCoolItsAwesome: Widely considered the best EasternRPG of TheSeventhGenerationOfConsoleVideoGames, the game that the genre needed to claim back its relevance in Western markets, and one of the best games of the generation in general. Plus, arguably the best graphic engine on the Wii and [[AwesomeMusic one of the best video game soundtracks of all time]]. The game was so popular and well received that more than a year after its release, Gamestop still sold ''used'' copies for $90, which they considered fair market value (copies being sold on Amazon and eBay go for even more than that).
13th Feb '17 8:10:02 PM Pokedude14
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****Riki can also stack numerous Debuffs on the enemy for a superpowered Say Sorry!
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