History YMMV / XMenFirstClass

7th Jul '17 8:23:22 AM SunriseWarrior
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Azazel is one of the Big Bad's minions, has few lines and yet's a rather popular character. It's basically due to being Nightcrawler with red skin. Sure beats his really lame comic version.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Azazel is one of the Big Bad's minions, minions and has few lines lines, and yet's yet he's a rather popular character. It's basically due to being Nightcrawler with red skin. Sure beats his really lame comic version.
2nd Jul '17 8:27:56 PM CurledUpWithDakka
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** It's the opinion of certain fans that Sebastian Shaw shouldn't have been the main villain. They cite the fact that the film version bares almost no resemblance to his comic counterpart, and has more in common with another major X-Men antagonist: Mr. Sinister. Both Movie!Shaw and Sinister are long-lived {{Evilutionary Biologist}}s, who experimented on Magneto during their time as a Nazi scientists, and believe Mutants are destined to rule the world. Very different from the aristocratic, Manipulative Bastard, BadBoss, WarGorFunAndProfits Shaw of the comics.

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** It's the opinion of certain fans that Sebastian Shaw shouldn't have been the main villain. They cite the fact that the film version bares almost no resemblance to his comic counterpart, and has more in common with another major X-Men antagonist: Mr. Sinister. Both Movie!Shaw and Sinister are long-lived {{Evilutionary Biologist}}s, who experimented on Magneto during their time as a Nazi scientists, and believe Mutants are destined to rule the world. Very different from the aristocratic, Manipulative Bastard, BadBoss, WarGorFunAndProfits WarForFunAndProfits Shaw of the comics.
2nd Jul '17 8:27:02 PM CurledUpWithDakka
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** It's the opinion of certain fans that Sebastian Shaw shouldn't have been the main villain. They cite the fact that the film version bares almost no resemblance to his comic counterpart, and has more in common with another major X-Men antagonist: Mr. Sinister. Both Movie!Shaw and Sinister are long-lived EvilutionaryBiologists, who experimented on Magneto during their time as a Nazi scientists, and believe Mutants are destined to rule the world. Very different from the aristocratic, Manipulative Bastard, BadBoss, WarforFunandProfits Shaw of the comics.

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** It's the opinion of certain fans that Sebastian Shaw shouldn't have been the main villain. They cite the fact that the film version bares almost no resemblance to his comic counterpart, and has more in common with another major X-Men antagonist: Mr. Sinister. Both Movie!Shaw and Sinister are long-lived EvilutionaryBiologists, {{Evilutionary Biologist}}s, who experimented on Magneto during their time as a Nazi scientists, and believe Mutants are destined to rule the world. Very different from the aristocratic, Manipulative Bastard, BadBoss, WarforFunandProfits WarGorFunAndProfits Shaw of the comics.
22nd Jun '17 11:55:27 AM Anddrix
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** And then there's the whole mess with Darwin. [[spoiler: Specifically his death. The black mutant whose explicit power is "adapt to anything to survive" is killed via a dosage of energy burning him from the inside out administered to him by an old white Nazi. Cue some calling bullshit.]]
22nd Jun '17 11:43:27 AM Overfiend
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** Oliver Platt's "man in black" character shares quite a few similarities with Phil Coulson, Clark Gregg's character from Marvel's Cinematic Universe franchise. Both are agents of a federal agency who serve as liaisons between the government and the superpowered community, both are unabashed fanboys of said communities, and both are killed at the hands of superpowered enemies. Where they differ is that Coulson's death galvanizes the Avengers as a team into action to, well- AVENGE their friend and ally. On the flip side, Xavier and co. don't even acknowledge MIB's death, let alone seem all that broken up about it.
6th Apr '17 10:54:00 AM hellwolf99
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** And then there's the whole mess with Darwin. [[spoiler: Specifically his death. The black mutant whose explicit power is "adapt to anything to survive" is killed via a dosage of energy burning him from the inside out administered to him by an old white Nazi. Cue some calling bullshit.]]
18th Mar '17 4:13:15 PM Sane_Spinster
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*** [[spoiler:In the AlternateTimeline, though, [[Film/XMenApocalypse, she does get her memories of these times back,]] so this may take her out of the Woobie status a bit.]]

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*** [[spoiler:In the AlternateTimeline, though, [[Film/XMenApocalypse, [[Film/XMenApocalypse she does get her memories of these times back,]] so this may take her out of the Woobie status a bit.]]
18th Mar '17 4:10:15 PM Sane_Spinster
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*** [[spoiler:In the AlternateTimeline, though, [[Film/XMenApocalypse, she does get her memories of these times back,]] so this may take her out of the Woobie status a bit.]]
17th Mar '17 9:38:18 AM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: [[EvilutionaryBiologist Klaus Schmidt]], a.k.a. [[BigBad Sebastian Shaw]], is a {{diabolical|Mastermind}} mutant supremacist who [[FantasticRacism believes humans to be inferior to mutants]]. As a [[ThoseWackyNazis Nazi]] MadScientist, he used his position to try to find "gifted" mutants, and upon finding a younger [[ComicBook/{{Magneto}} Erik Lensherr]], he [[YouKilledMyFather killed his mother]] after Erik failed to impress him with his powers, [[TheCorrupter solely to motivate him]], before subjecting Erik to [[ColdBloodedTorture horrible experiments]]. After [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarII the war]], he [[NaziGrandpa adopts the Shaw identity]] and [[FauxAffablyEvil ingratiates himself]] to high-ranking members of the government with his [[Characters/XMenFilmSeriesHellfireClub Hellfire Club]], [[ManipulativeBastard manipulating Russia and America alike]]. Shaw assaults a {{CIA}} facility, murdering every agent within, and when one of the young mutants stands up to him, Shaw, [[{{Hypocrite}} despite his creed]] of "not harming his own kind," murders him without hesitation and with barely-concealed enjoyment. Shaw's ultimate goal was to push Russia and America into nuclear war, allowing mutant-kind to thrive in the aftermath and creating a kingdom of mutants that he himself would rule. Even when thwarted, Shaw planned to absorb all the nuclear radiation in his atomic sub and [[PersonOfMassDestruction unleash it upon Cuba]] to destroy it personally and trigger atomic war.

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* CompleteMonster: [[EvilutionaryBiologist Klaus Schmidt]], a.k.a. [[BigBad Sebastian Shaw]], is a {{diabolical|Mastermind}} mutant supremacist who [[FantasticRacism believes humans to be inferior to mutants]]. As a [[ThoseWackyNazis Nazi]] MadScientist, he used his position to try to find "gifted" mutants, and upon finding a younger [[ComicBook/{{Magneto}} Erik Lensherr]], he [[YouKilledMyFather killed his mother]] after Erik failed to impress him with his powers, [[TheCorrupter solely to motivate him]], before subjecting Erik to [[ColdBloodedTorture horrible experiments]]. After [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarII the war]], he [[NaziGrandpa adopts the Shaw identity]] and [[FauxAffablyEvil ingratiates himself]] to high-ranking members of the government with his [[Characters/XMenFilmSeriesHellfireClub Hellfire Club]], [[ManipulativeBastard manipulating Russia and America alike]]. Shaw assaults a {{CIA}} facility, murdering every agent within, and when one of the young mutants stands up to him, Shaw, [[{{Hypocrite}} despite his creed]] of "not harming his own kind," murders him without hesitation and with barely-concealed enjoyment. Shaw's ultimate goal was to push Russia and America into nuclear war, allowing mutant-kind mutantkind to thrive in the aftermath and creating a kingdom of mutants that he himself would rule. Even when thwarted, Shaw planned to absorb all the nuclear radiation in his atomic sub and [[PersonOfMassDestruction unleash it upon Cuba]] to destroy it personally and trigger atomic war.
17th Mar '17 3:25:29 AM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: [[EvilutionaryBiologist Klaus Schmidt]], a.k.a. [[BigBad Sebastian Shaw]], is a {{diabolical|Mastermind}} mutant supremacist who [[FantasticRacism believes humans to be inferior to mutants]]. As a [[ThoseWackyNazis Nazi]] MadScientist, he used his position to try to find "gifted" mutants, and upon finding a younger [[ComicBook/{{Magneto}} Erik Lensherr]], he [[YouKilledMyFather killed his mother]] after Erik failed to impress him with his powers, [[TheCorrupter solely to motivate him]], before subjecting Erik to [[ColdBloodedTorture horrible experiments]]. After [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarII the war]], he [[NaziGrandpa adopts the Shaw identity]] and [[FauxAffablyEvil ingratiates himself]] to high-ranking members of the government with his [[Characters/XMenFilmSeriesHellfireClub Hellfire Club]], [[ManipulativeBastard manipulating Russia and America alike]]. Shaw assaults a {{CIA}} facility, murdering every agent within, and when one of the young mutants stands up to him, Shaw, [[{{Hypocrite}} despite his creed]] of "not harming his own kind," murders him without hesitation and with barely-concealed enjoyment. Shaw's ultimate goal was to push Russia and America into nuclear war, allowing mutant-kind to thrive in the aftermath and creating a kingdom of mutants that he himself would rule. Even when thwarted, Shaw planned to absorb all the nuclear radiation in his atomic sub and [[PersonOfMassDestruction unleash it upon Cuba]] to destroy it personally and [[NukeEm trigger atomic war]].

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* CompleteMonster: [[EvilutionaryBiologist Klaus Schmidt]], a.k.a. [[BigBad Sebastian Shaw]], is a {{diabolical|Mastermind}} mutant supremacist who [[FantasticRacism believes humans to be inferior to mutants]]. As a [[ThoseWackyNazis Nazi]] MadScientist, he used his position to try to find "gifted" mutants, and upon finding a younger [[ComicBook/{{Magneto}} Erik Lensherr]], he [[YouKilledMyFather killed his mother]] after Erik failed to impress him with his powers, [[TheCorrupter solely to motivate him]], before subjecting Erik to [[ColdBloodedTorture horrible experiments]]. After [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarII the war]], he [[NaziGrandpa adopts the Shaw identity]] and [[FauxAffablyEvil ingratiates himself]] to high-ranking members of the government with his [[Characters/XMenFilmSeriesHellfireClub Hellfire Club]], [[ManipulativeBastard manipulating Russia and America alike]]. Shaw assaults a {{CIA}} facility, murdering every agent within, and when one of the young mutants stands up to him, Shaw, [[{{Hypocrite}} despite his creed]] of "not harming his own kind," murders him without hesitation and with barely-concealed enjoyment. Shaw's ultimate goal was to push Russia and America into nuclear war, allowing mutant-kind to thrive in the aftermath and creating a kingdom of mutants that he himself would rule. Even when thwarted, Shaw planned to absorb all the nuclear radiation in his atomic sub and [[PersonOfMassDestruction unleash it upon Cuba]] to destroy it personally and [[NukeEm trigger atomic war]].war.
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