History YMMV / WerewolfTheApocalypse

31st Jan '18 10:11:47 AM Nopperabo
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* ValuesDissonance:

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* ValuesDissonance: Several of the first edition books from the 1990s have not aged well because of this.
** At least two of the first edition books treat autism as a derangement rather than a developmental disorder or a form of neurodiversity. The first edition Corax breedbook states that Corax children whose spirit egg is stolen or destroyed before their first change become autistic. Hunts-at-Night, a Black Spiral Dancer described in ''Warriors of the Apocalypse'', has autism as his derangement, exhibiting autistic traits such as poor social skills, diminished verbal communication, and an all-consuming special interest (hunting).
30th Jan '18 7:09:06 AM Nopperabo
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* ValuesDissonance: The first edition of the game featured the Seventh Generation, a Wyrm cult that abused and killed children. ''Rage Across New York'' stated that the Seventh Generation sexually abused children so that their victims would go on to abuse others, and that several Seventh Generation leaders were themselves abused as children. The first edition Children of Gaia tribebook also stated that "deep inner wounds" turn children into sadists and sexual predators in adulthood. This plot point was based on the myth than victims of childhood sexual abuse would themselves become sexual predators in adulthood. While this myth was widely believed in the 1990s, when the first edition books were written, it has been largely rejected by the public and [[https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2086458 disproven by research]] in the 21st century.

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* ValuesDissonance: ValuesDissonance:
** Most of the gay, lesbian, and bisexual characters from the first edition of the game, especially in ''Warriors of the Apocalypse'', were Wyrm servants. Later editions of the game were more enlightened about LGBTQ people, however.
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The first edition of the game featured the Seventh Generation, a Wyrm cult that abused and killed children. ''Rage Across New York'' stated that the Seventh Generation sexually abused children so that their victims would go on to abuse others, and that several Seventh Generation leaders were themselves abused as children. The first edition Children of Gaia tribebook also stated that "deep inner wounds" turn children into sadists and sexual predators in adulthood. This plot point was based on the myth than victims of childhood sexual abuse would themselves become sexual predators in adulthood. While this myth was widely believed in the 1990s, when the first edition books were written, it has been largely rejected by the public and [[https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2086458 disproven by research]] in the 21st century.
28th Jan '18 6:02:37 PM Nopperabo
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** Lord Collum, the Elemental Wyrm of Sludge, is an anthropomorphic being made of sewage. His realm in Malfeas is a frozen landscape made of filth.

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** Lord Collum, the Elemental Wyrm Maeljin Incarna of Sludge, is an anthropomorphic being made of sewage. His realm in Malfeas is a frozen landscape made of filth.
27th Jan '18 7:22:44 PM Nopperabo
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* ValuesDissonance:
** The first edition of the game featured the Seventh Generation, a Wyrm cult that abused and killed children. ''Rage Across New York'' stated that the Seventh Generation sexually abused children so that their victims would go on to abuse others, and that several Seventh Generation leaders were themselves abused as children. The first edition Children of Gaia tribebook also stated that "deep inner wounds" turn children into sadists and sexual predators in adulthood. This plot point was based on the myth than victims of childhood sexual abuse would themselves become sexual predators in adulthood. While this myth was widely believed in the 1990s, when the first edition books were written, it has been largely rejected by the public and [[https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2086458 disproven by research]] in the 21st century.

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* ValuesDissonance:
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ValuesDissonance: The first edition of the game featured the Seventh Generation, a Wyrm cult that abused and killed children. ''Rage Across New York'' stated that the Seventh Generation sexually abused children so that their victims would go on to abuse others, and that several Seventh Generation leaders were themselves abused as children. The first edition Children of Gaia tribebook also stated that "deep inner wounds" turn children into sadists and sexual predators in adulthood. This plot point was based on the myth than victims of childhood sexual abuse would themselves become sexual predators in adulthood. While this myth was widely believed in the 1990s, when the first edition books were written, it has been largely rejected by the public and [[https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2086458 disproven by research]] in the 21st century.
27th Jan '18 7:16:48 PM Nopperabo
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** Lord Collum, the Elemental Wyrm of Sludge, is an anthropomorphic being made of sewage. His realm in Malfeas is a frozen landscape made of filth.
** Any Pretanic Order rite in honor of an Elemental Wyrm require a human sacrifice, after which the devotee devours part of the victim's body. The body part in question depends on which Elemental Wyrm is being honored, but all four scenarios are disgusting.
27th Jan '18 6:53:34 PM Nopperabo
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** The first edition of the game featured the Seventh Generation, a Wyrm cult that abused and killed children. ''Rage Across New York'' stated that the Seventh Generation sexually abused children so that their victims would go on to abuse others, and that several Seventh Generation leaders were themselves abused as children. This plot point was based on the myth than victims of childhood sexual abuse would themselves become sexual predators in adulthood. While this myth was widely believed in the 1990s, when ''Rage Across New York'' was written, it has been largely rejected by the public and [[https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2086458 disproven by research]] in the 21st century.

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** The first edition of the game featured the Seventh Generation, a Wyrm cult that abused and killed children. ''Rage Across New York'' stated that the Seventh Generation sexually abused children so that their victims would go on to abuse others, and that several Seventh Generation leaders were themselves abused as children. The first edition Children of Gaia tribebook also stated that "deep inner wounds" turn children into sadists and sexual predators in adulthood. This plot point was based on the myth than victims of childhood sexual abuse would themselves become sexual predators in adulthood. While this myth was widely believed in the 1990s, when ''Rage Across New York'' was the first edition books were written, it has been largely rejected by the public and [[https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2086458 disproven by research]] in the 21st century.
27th Jan '18 6:48:38 PM Nopperabo
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* ValuesDissonance:
** The first edition of the game featured the Seventh Generation, a Wyrm cult that abused and killed children. ''Rage Across New York'' stated that the Seventh Generation sexually abused children so that their victims would go on to abuse others, and that several Seventh Generation leaders were themselves abused as children. This plot point was based on the myth than victims of childhood sexual abuse would themselves become sexual predators in adulthood. While this myth was widely believed in the 1990s, when ''Rage Across New York'' was written, it has been largely rejected by the public and [[https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2086458 disproven by research]] in the 21st century.
27th Nov '17 5:04:29 PM DesertDragon
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* AccidentalAesop: An obsession with racial "purity" is not only stupid, but detrimental to a group's survival. Garou tribes that insist on breeding only with members of certain racial and ethnic groups (Get of Fenris, Wendigo) are small in number and declining. The Silver Fangs, most of whom only breed with blue bloods, are small in number and inbred. The Red Talons, who refuse to mate with humans, are also on the decline. On the other hand, tribes that have mingled with a variety of racial and ethnic groups worldwide and accept converts from different racial backgrounds (the Black Furies, Bone Gnawers, Children of Gaia, and Uktena) are keeping their numbers steady.

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* AccidentalAesop: An obsession with racial "purity" is not only stupid, foolish and bigoted, but detrimental to a group's survival. Garou tribes that insist on breeding only with members of certain racial and ethnic groups (Get of Fenris, Wendigo) are small in number and declining. The Silver Fangs, most of whom only breed with blue bloods, are small in number and inbred. The Red Talons, who refuse to mate with humans, are also on the decline. On the other hand, tribes that have mingled with a variety of racial and ethnic groups worldwide and accept converts from different racial backgrounds (the Black Furies, Bone Gnawers, Children of Gaia, Glass Walkers, and Uktena) are keeping their numbers steady.
9th Nov '17 11:37:33 AM SorPepita
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* EsotericHappyEnding: In the Time of Judgment scenario (Weaver Ascendant) in which the Wyrm is released from confinement in the Weaver's web, the Weaver and Wyrm become sane again, and the cosmos is restored to balance. However, virtually all the changing breeds have been killed and the human race has been hurled back into the stone age. While it's implied that the spirits of the breeds will be able to help humanity rebuild a better world in the ''long term'', things kinda suck for everyone ''right now''.

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* EsotericHappyEnding: In the Time of Judgment scenario (Weaver Ascendant) ''Weaver Ascendant'' in which the Wyrm is released from confinement in the Weaver's web, the Weaver and Wyrm become sane again, and the cosmos is restored to balance. However, virtually all the changing breeds have been killed and the human race has been hurled back into the stone age. While it's implied that the spirits of the breeds will be able to help humanity rebuild a better world in the ''long term'', things kinda suck for everyone ''right now''.
9th Nov '17 11:37:13 AM SorPepita
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* EsotericHappyEnding: In the Time of Judgment scenario in which the Wyrm is released from confinement in the Weaver's web, the Weaver and Wyrm become sane again, and the cosmos is restored to balance. However, virtually all the changing breeds have been killed and the human race has been hurled back into the stone age. While it's implied that the spirits of the breeds will be able to help humanity rebuild a better world in the ''long term'', things kinda suck for everyone ''right now''.

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* EsotericHappyEnding: In the Time of Judgment scenario (Weaver Ascendant) in which the Wyrm is released from confinement in the Weaver's web, the Weaver and Wyrm become sane again, and the cosmos is restored to balance. However, virtually all the changing breeds have been killed and the human race has been hurled back into the stone age. While it's implied that the spirits of the breeds will be able to help humanity rebuild a better world in the ''long term'', things kinda suck for everyone ''right now''.
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