History YMMV / VeggieTales

15th Nov '17 1:31:48 AM ryanruff13
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: In more recent years, ''[=VeggieTales=]'' has changed its intro (which cuts off a verse of the theme song), its animation studio ([[SpecialEffectsFailure the quality seems to have gone down]]), its logo, QWERTY, the format of the letters (they're now videos from kids), and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking the DVD cases are no longer green]]. The [=DVDs=] also no longer have those fun little {{Easter Egg}}s on them, [[NostalgiaFilter like they used to...]]

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: TheyChangedItNowItSucks:
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In more recent years, ''[=VeggieTales=]'' has changed its intro (which cuts off a verse of the theme song), its animation studio ([[SpecialEffectsFailure the quality seems to have gone down]]), its logo, QWERTY, the format of the letters (they're now videos from kids), and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking the DVD cases are no longer green]]. The [=DVDs=] also no longer have those fun little {{Easter Egg}}s on them, [[NostalgiaFilter like they used to...]]


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* UncannyValley: Even cartoonish vegetables aren't exempt from this trope. While the animation was serviceable for early 90's standards, the facial expressions on the characters in the earlier episodes could slightly veer into this at times. This, of course, subsided as the [[ArtEvolution animation became more fluid over time]].
13th Nov '17 12:26:24 PM ryanruff13
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* PainfulRhyme: It wouldn't be surprising if [[NarmCharm this was intentional]], but we have this one admittedly creative lyric from "What We Gonna Do" from "Where's God When I'm S-Scared?"

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* PainfulRhyme: It wouldn't be surprising if [[NarmCharm this was intentional]], intentional]] ([[TropesAreNotBad it arguably even adds to the charm of the song]]), but we have this one admittedly creative lyric from "What We Gonna Do" from "Where's God When I'm S-Scared?"
11th Nov '17 11:59:23 AM huntdaddy
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: In "Madame Blueberry", the scallions play a trio of salesman who offer the titular character an extravagant trip to the "Stuff Mart". Were they a group of [[SnakeOilSalesman sleazy businessmen]] who were trying to turn Madame towards a materialistic lifestyle, or were they simply doing their jobs and promoting their store to the nearby townsfolk.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: In "Madame Blueberry", the scallions play a trio of salesman who offer the titular character an extravagant trip to the "Stuff Mart". Were they a group of [[SnakeOilSalesman sleazy businessmen]] who were trying to turn Madame towards a materialistic lifestyle, or were they simply doing their jobs and promoting their store to the nearby townsfolk.townsfolk?
8th Nov '17 11:58:49 AM huntdaddy
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: In "Madame Blueberry", the scallions play a trio of salesman who offer the titular character an extravagant trip to the "Stuff Mart". Were they a group of [[SnakeOilSalesman sleazy businessmen]] who were trying to turn Madame towards a materialistic lifestyle, or were they simply doing their jobs and promoting their store to the nearby townsfolk.
7th Nov '17 11:39:54 PM ryanruff13
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* OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight: The episodes Phil wrote from the post-Jonah era seem to be the best ones out of the era.
* PainfulRhyme: It wouldn't be surprising if [[NarmCharm this was intentional]], but we have this one admittedly creative lyric from "Oh No, What We Gonna Do" from "Where's God When I'm S-Scared?"
--> "We could use him as a footstool or a table to play '''Scrabble on''' then tie him up and beat him up and throw him out '''of Babylon!'''"

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* OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight: The episodes Phil wrote from the post-Jonah post-''Jonah'' era seem to be the best ones out of the era.
* PainfulRhyme: It wouldn't be surprising if [[NarmCharm this was intentional]], but we have this one admittedly creative lyric from "Oh No, What "What We Gonna Do" from "Where's God When I'm S-Scared?"
--> "We could use him as a footstool or a table to play '''Scrabble on''' then tie him up and beat him up and throw him out '''of Babylon!'''"of '''Babylon!'''"



-->'''Moses:''' Mighty Yamses, we grow weary of building your food pyramids. Let my pickles go.\\

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-->'''Moses:''' --->'''Moses:''' Mighty Yamses, we grow weary of building your food pyramids. Let my pickles go.\\
7th Nov '17 11:29:28 PM ryanruff13
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* AcceptableTargets: In the Silly Song "Oh, Santa", Larry bakes three cookies for Santa; however, when a bank robber breaks in Larry decides to give him one out of generosity; the same goes for a Norse Viking. However, he brazenly slams the door in the face of ''an agent from the IRS'', and even gives a knowing smirk to the camera. At the end of the song, the agent comes in anyway, asks if Larry has "claimed" the cookie, then takes it anyway.

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* AcceptableTargets: In the Silly Song "Oh, Santa", Larry bakes three cookies for Santa; however, when a bank robber breaks in in, Larry decides to give him one out of generosity; generosity, and the same goes for a Norse Viking. However, he brazenly slams the door in the face of ''an agent from the IRS'', and even gives a knowing smirk to the camera. At the end of the song, the agent comes in anyway, asks if Larry has "claimed" the cookie, then takes it anyway.



** 'What We Gonna Do?' the VillainSong from 'Daniel And The Lion's Den.' Actually goes pretty far for a Veggie Tales cartoon; while some of the lyrics are silly (they suggest using Daniel as a table for Scrabble) they also mention beating him up and feeding him to crocodiles. All while being an insanely catchy [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaVc2krA2jo song.]]
** Actually created some problems with the original version of "The Bunny Song" from the "Rack, Shack and Benny" video when Big Idea was deluged with complaints from parents about kids singing lines like "I don't love my mom or my dad, just the bunny"; as a result the song was rewritten and redubbed for later releases; and a [[ClipShow Silly Song compilation video]] contained a follow-up song where Mr. Nezzer's lesson appears to have stuck with him.
** The "What Have We Learned" song is very catchy in-universe and out; the only one that doesn't seem to like it is Bob.
*** He admitted it grew on him as of ''Lord of the Beans'' right after the Sporks stole the record.

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** 'What We Gonna Do?' the VillainSong from 'Daniel And The Lion's Den.' Actually goes pretty far for a Veggie Tales ''[=VeggieTales=]'' cartoon; while some of the lyrics are silly (they suggest using Daniel as a table for Scrabble) they also mention beating him up and feeding him to crocodiles. All while being an insanely catchy [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaVc2krA2jo song.]]
** Actually This actually created some problems with the original version of "The Bunny Song" from the "Rack, Shack and Benny" video when Big Idea was deluged with complaints from parents about kids singing lines like "I don't love my mom or my dad, just the bunny"; bunny" out of context; as a result resultm the song was rewritten and redubbed for later releases; releases, and a [[ClipShow Silly Song compilation video]] contained a follow-up song where Mr. Nezzer's lesson appears to have stuck with him.
** The "What Have We Learned" song is very catchy in-universe and out; the only one that who doesn't seem to like it is Bob.
*** He admitted that it grew on him as of ''Lord of the Beans'' right after the Sporks stole the record.



* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Müller George Mueller]] story. Putting the lives of several orphans in the hands of chance is better than taking money from the government, apparently.
** However, this was the 18th century, where the government either didn't care or would throw them into [[OrphanageOfFear the other kind of orphanage]] or even jail just for being on the street. Mueller himself gladly took donations when they were offered, and passed out yearly budget reports. [[HonorBeforeReason He just would never ask for anything.]]

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The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Müller George Mueller]] story. Putting the lives of several orphans in the hands of chance is better than taking money from the government, apparently.
** However, *** Granted, this was the 18th century, where the government either didn't care or would throw them into [[OrphanageOfFear the other kind of orphanage]] or even jail just for being on the street. Mueller himself gladly took donations when they were offered, and passed out yearly budget reports. [[HonorBeforeReason He just would never ask for anything.]]



* HarsherInHindsight: Bob and Larry are the names of two molesters in Film/{{Freeway}}.

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* HarsherInHindsight: Bob "Bob" and Larry "Larry" are the names of two molesters in Film/{{Freeway}}.



** NBC airing ''VeggieTales'' at one point, coupled with ''WesternAnimation/ThePiratesWhoDontDoAnythingAVeggieTalesMovie'' being released by Creator/{{Universal}}, can be seen as a collective foreshadowing of [=NBCUniversal=] acquiring ''Veggietales'' owner Creator/DreamWorksAnimation, taking Big Idea Entertainment with it.
*** ''VeggieTales'' would later be aired on Cozi TV, another network [=NBCUniversal=] owned

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** NBC airing ''VeggieTales'' ''[=VeggieTales=]'' at one point, coupled with ''WesternAnimation/ThePiratesWhoDontDoAnythingAVeggieTalesMovie'' being released by Creator/{{Universal}}, can be seen as a collective foreshadowing of [=NBCUniversal=] acquiring ''Veggietales'' ''[=VeggieTales=]'' owner Creator/DreamWorksAnimation, taking Big Idea Entertainment with it.
*** ''VeggieTales'' ''[=VeggieTales=]'' would later be aired on Cozi TV, another network that [=NBCUniversal=] ownedowned.



* MisaimedFandom: A minor example. Because of the show's popularity, it was soon sold in regular video stores like Blockbuster, rather than confined to the Christian book stores where it was originally intended to be sold, and was enjoyed by plenty of children who weren't devoutly Christian. There were a handful of non-Christian parents who were upset about this, as they felt it was propaganda, though they were few and far-between. Even Phil Vischer had this fear himself when he initially dove into the mass market.

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* MisaimedFandom: A minor example. Because of the show's popularity, it was soon sold in regular video stores like Blockbuster, rather than confined to the Christian book stores bookstores where it was originally intended to be sold, and was enjoyed by plenty of children who weren't devoutly Christian. There were a handful of non-Christian parents who were upset about this, as they felt it was propaganda, though they were few and far-between. Even Phil Vischer had this fear himself when he initially dove into the mass market.



* PeripheryDemographic: Who got WesternAnimation/VeggieTales going in its early years? College students [[note]]To elaborate a bit more on this, Phil Vischer explained it in his autobiography -- Christian book stores often had a children's section with a TV in one part of the store. Often, they would take a random tape and play it on the VCR on repeat throughout the day; college students who often worked in the store part-time usually didn't have a whole lot to do, so when they inevitably would pop in a tape for this show, they would find themselves enjoying it way more than they expected. It was one of the many ways word of mouth helped get this show on the map.[[/note]]. The show is also enjoyed by many non-Christians.

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* PainfulRhyme: It wouldn't be surprising if [[NarmCharm this was intentional]], but we have this one admittedly creative lyric from "Oh No, What We Gonna Do" from "Where's God When I'm S-Scared?"
--> "We could use him as a footstool or a table to play '''Scrabble on''' then tie him up and beat him up and throw him out '''of Babylon!'''"
* PeripheryDemographic: Who got WesternAnimation/VeggieTales ''[=VeggieTales=]'' going in its early years? College students [[note]]To elaborate a bit more on this, Phil Vischer explained it in his autobiography -- autobiography: Christian book stores often had a children's section with a TV in one part of the store. Often, they would take a random tape and play it on the VCR on repeat throughout the day; college students who often worked in the store part-time usually didn't have a whole lot to do, so when they inevitably would pop in a tape for this show, they would find themselves enjoying it way more than they expected. It was one of the many ways word of mouth helped get this show on the map.[[/note]]. The show is also enjoyed by many non-Christians.



* SeasonalRot: Phil stated in a podcast that he noticed that the post-Jonah episodes aren't as successful (in terms of selling) as the older ones, and speculates it's probably how the media reacts nowadays.
* ShallowParody: The show isn't usually guilty of this itself, but [=VeggieTales=] has been the target of some rather mean-spirited mockeries.

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* SeasonalRot: Phil stated in a podcast that he noticed that the post-Jonah post-''Jonah'' episodes aren't as successful (in terms of selling) as the older ones, and speculates how it's probably how the media reacts nowadays.
* ShallowParody: The show isn't usually guilty of this itself, but [=VeggieTales=] ''[=VeggieTales=]'' has been the target of some rather mean-spirited mockeries.



** ''Literature/TheGrapesOfWrath'' sketch is just a pun on the name; other than the accents on the titular angry grapes it has [[InNameOnly nothing to do with the original whatsoever.]] Bob calls Larry on this, having been expecting to hear the actual story being told.

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** ''Literature/TheGrapesOfWrath'' sketch is just a pun on the name; other than the accents on the titular angry grapes grapes, it has [[InNameOnly nothing to do with the original whatsoever.]] Bob calls Larry on this, having been expecting to hear the actual story being told.



* SpecialEffectsFailure: ''Sweetpea Beauty'' has probably the worst animation of any Veggie video. No lighting whatsoever, props randomly move from one position to another, one character's mouth randomly grows and drops in framerate, and ''entire backgrounds and textures disappear for no apparent reason''.

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* SpecialEffectsFailure: ''Sweetpea Beauty'' has probably the worst animation of any Veggie ''[=VeggieTales=]'' video. No The lighting whatsoever, is very basic, props randomly move from one position to another, one character's mouth randomly grows and drops in framerate, and ''entire backgrounds and textures disappear for no apparent reason''.



* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: ''Larryboy and the Bad Apple'' actually got two different games for both the [=PS2=] and the GBA. While the GBA game was [[NoProblemWithLicensedGames a pretty good 2D puzzle-platformer]], the [=PS2=] game (a 3D platformer), however, was hampered by messy controls, somewhat repetitive gameplay, and wasted potential.
** Veggietales also has gotten several PC games over the years, such as ''The Mystery Of Veggie Island'' (a point-and-click adventure game with Junior as the main character), ''Minnesota Cuke and the Coconut Apes'' (a side-scrolling platformer), and ''Jonah: A Veggietales Game'' (a Minigame Compilation based on the movie). Most of them, while definitely playable and cleverly written like the show, [[SoOkayItsAverage come off as unremarkable gameplay-wise]], however.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: In more recent years, [=VeggieTales=] has changed its intro (which cuts off a verse of the theme song), its animation studio ([[SpecialEffectsFailure the quality seems to have gone down]]), its logo, QWERTY, the format of the letters (they're now videos from kids), and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking the DVD cases are no longer green]]. The [=DVDs=] also no longer have those fun little {{Easter Egg}}s on them, [[NostalgiaFilter like they used to...]]

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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: TheProblemWithLicensedGames:
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''Larryboy and the Bad Apple'' actually got two different games for both the [=PS2=] and the GBA. While the GBA game was [[NoProblemWithLicensedGames a pretty good 2D puzzle-platformer]], the [=PS2=] game (a 3D platformer), however, was hampered by messy controls, somewhat repetitive gameplay, and wasted potential.
** Veggietales ''[=VeggieTales=]'' also has gotten several PC games over the years, such as ''The Mystery Of Veggie Island'' (a point-and-click adventure game with Junior as the main character), ''Minnesota Cuke and the Coconut Apes'' (a side-scrolling platformer), and ''Jonah: A Veggietales [=VeggieTales=] Game'' (a Minigame Compilation minigame compilation based on the movie). Most of them, while definitely playable and cleverly written like the show, [[SoOkayItsAverage come off as unremarkable gameplay-wise]], however.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: In more recent years, [=VeggieTales=] ''[=VeggieTales=]'' has changed its intro (which cuts off a verse of the theme song), its animation studio ([[SpecialEffectsFailure the quality seems to have gone down]]), its logo, QWERTY, the format of the letters (they're now videos from kids), and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking the DVD cases are no longer green]]. The [=DVDs=] also no longer have those fun little {{Easter Egg}}s on them, [[NostalgiaFilter like they used to...]]



** "Veggies in Space" pandering on Angry Birds and the recent seasons of Doctor Who.
** The Silly Song "Best Friends Forever", which has the characters do texting. It doesn't help that the phones used are a keyboard phone and a flip phone, both supplanted by smartphones, leading to jokes that Bob (who has a history of being behind the times) was in charge of the song.
** Vanna Banana from "Princess and the Popstar" being a spoof on Hannah Montana.

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** "Veggies in Space" pandering on Angry Birds and the recent seasons of Doctor Who.
''Series/DoctorWho''.
** The Silly Song "Best Friends Forever", which has the characters do texting. It doesn't help that the phones used are a keyboard phone and a flip phone, which have both been supplanted by smartphones, leading to jokes that Bob (who has a history of being behind the times) was in charge of the song.
** Vanna Banana from "Princess and the Popstar" being a spoof on Hannah Montana.''Series/HannahMontana''.
22nd Aug '17 2:04:08 PM kablammin45
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* MemeticMutation: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeEihNdXxdc Larry's]] BigNo from "[[Recap/VeggieTalesEpisode11SillySingAlong2TheEndOfSilliness The End of Silliness?]]", primarily by way of WebAnimation/YouTubePoop.
8th Jul '17 5:49:03 PM Scraggle
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* UnfortunateImplications: In "Dave and the Giant Pickle", the French Peas calling the Israelites pigs is somewhat racial, considering Hebrews are kosher. Phil later apologized to anyone in the commentary if they're insulted.
27th Jun '17 12:37:58 PM ANewMan
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** "That's Not Everything" from "The Princess and the Popstar".
24th Jun '17 8:05:44 PM BNSF1995
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** The Silly Song "Best Friends Forever", which has the characters do texting. It doesn't help that the phones used are a keyboard phone and a flip phone, both supplanted by smartphones, leading to jokes that Bob was in charge of the song.

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** The Silly Song "Best Friends Forever", which has the characters do texting. It doesn't help that the phones used are a keyboard phone and a flip phone, both supplanted by smartphones, leading to jokes that Bob (who has a history of being behind the times) was in charge of the song.
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