History YMMV / VForVendetta

21st Aug '16 5:03:55 PM Some101
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** Norsefire's rise to power gets disturbing considering the rise of Donald Trump in the Republican party, some fans of the movie have compared Trump's ascendancy to that of Sutler's
22nd Jun '16 8:36:43 AM Riley1sCool
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-> V: There is no flesh and blood behind this cloak to kill. There is only an idea. ''Ideas are bulletproof.'' Farewell.
22nd Jun '16 8:34:18 AM Riley1sCool
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22nd Jun '16 8:33:29 AM Riley1sCool
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-> V: There is no flesh and blood behind this cloak to kill. There is only an idea. ''Ideas are bulletproof.'' Farewell.
22nd Jun '16 8:30:15 AM Riley1sCool
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* CrazyAwesome: V is a KnifeNut who speaks philosophically, manages to make the populace of England revolt, hides out in an underground base full of lost cultural items, and wears a Guy Fawkes mask with intentions of making it the face of a revolution.


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* V, as in the comic, is CrazyAwesome. Doubly so, in fact, in the film, thanks to his [[AddedAlliterativeAppeal introduction.]]
25th May '16 1:58:24 PM Daniel1559
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** Norsefire's rise to power gets disturbing considering the rise of Donald Trump in the Republican party, some fans of the movie have compared Trump's ascendancy to that of Sutler's
25th May '16 9:24:47 AM fearlessnikki
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* {{Anvilicious}}: A criticism of the movie is that it is heavy handed with BlackAndWhiteMorality. Changing the name of the BigBad to sound like Hitler is more than a little obvious, for instance.
** The "Sutler" name probably seems more anvilicious to those who know it was changed from "Susan". To someone coming from it cold, the first half makes it not-very-"Hitler"-like.

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* {{Anvilicious}}: A criticism of the movie is that it is heavy handed with BlackAndWhiteMorality. Changing the name of the BigBad to sound like Hitler is more than a little obvious, for instance.
** The "Sutler" name probably seems more anvilicious to those who know it was changed from "Susan". To someone coming from it cold, the first half makes it not-very-"Hitler"-like.


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* BrokenBase:
** Changing the villain's name from 'Susan' to 'Sutler'. Fans of the original comic feel it's {{Anvilicious}}, as the new name sounds too much like 'Hitler'. The other side argues that the new name is less heavy-handed if one doesn't know it was changed from 'Susan'. And a villain named Susan could have caused {{Narm}} when said out loud.
** Natalie Portman's English accent. Some found it atrocious and unbelievable. Others felt it was a decent effort.
9th Mar '16 8:34:34 PM CharlesPhipps
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%%* MagnificentBastard: V.

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%%* * MagnificentBastard: V.V plays everyone like a fiddle until he gets exactly what he wants...and thinks he deserves.



** Meta-example, as it did this to Guy Fawkes. It's true that Fawkes entered Parliament with honest intentions, but few actually know what those intentions were. He wasn't trying to take down an authoritarian government, but instill a different one (indeed, since the Catholic church strongly believed in the divine right of kings, Guy Fawkes's co-conspirators would most likely have abolished the power parliament had claimed from the crown). He wanted England to move from the Church of England, which was oppressing to the Catholic Church, back to the Catholic Church (which would then have oppressed the Church of England).

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** Meta-example, as it did this to Guy Fawkes. It's true that Fawkes entered Parliament with honest intentions, but few actually know what those intentions were. He wasn't trying to take down an authoritarian government, but instill a different one (indeed, since the Catholic church strongly believed in the divine right of kings, Guy Fawkes's co-conspirators would most likely have abolished the power parliament had claimed from the crown). He wanted England to move from the Church of England, which was oppressing to the Catholic Church, back to the Catholic Church (which would then have oppressed the Church of England). The history of Catholic oppression in England is still a contentious issue to this day, however, with a lot of HistoricalVillainUpgrade and HistoricalHeroUpgrade which should be treated with RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement.
22nd Jan '16 7:28:48 AM OlfinBedwere
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* DirectorDisplacement: The film was actually directed by James [=McTeigue=] rather than the Wachowskis, though the latter did write and produce the film, and by all indications were very much in creative control throughout production.
16th Dec '15 12:40:53 PM erforce
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!!The comic:



* {{Anvilicious}}: A criticism of the movie is that it is heavy handed with BlackAndWhiteMorality. Changing the name of the BigBad to sound like Hitler is more than a little obvious, for instance.
** The "Sutler" name probably seems more anvilicious to those who know it was changed from "Susan". To someone coming from it cold, the first half makes it not-very-"Hitler"-like.
* AwardSnub: Hugo Weaving's amazing performance as V went unnoticed at award shows.
* CompleteMonster: Unlike the comic book, where the fascist characters are more well rounded, in the film some of them are irredeemable monsters:
** [[PresidentEvil High Chancellor]] Adam [[BigBad Sutler]] is a fascist dictator who rules the UK with an iron fist. After the Three Waters Incident leaves the UK in chaos, Sutler seizes power. After becoming Chancellor, Sutler sends anyone he disapproves of (Muslims, homosexuals, political dissidents) to concentration camps to be killed. Sutler violently cracks down on any sort protest against the regime. Sutler is also a very [[EvilisPetty petty]] dictator, [[DisproportionateRetribution having a talk show host arrested and killed for mocking him]].
** [[DragonInChief Peter Creedy]] is the head of The [[StateSec Finger]], Norsefire's SecretPolice. Creedy's agents seem to have free range to do almost anything they want, including raping women found violating curfew. Creedy's agents arrest anyone who is deemed a threat to the Norsefire regime. Creedy is something of a {{sadist}}, sometimes violently beating some of the political prisoners he arrests. However, the [[MoralEventHorizon worst thing Creedy has done]], is masterminding the aforementioned Three Waters Incident, in which he launches a biological attack on the UK that leaves 80,000 people dead and [[FalseFlagOperation allows Norsefire to seize power]]. In the end, Creedy decides to [[TheStarscream kill Sutler and seize power for himself]].



* MagnificentBastard: Helen Heyer, who opposes V.
* {{Narm}}: The government leader and blatant Hitler {{expy}} is named Adam ''Susan''. [[SarcasmMode Heil Susan!]] Changing it to "Sutler" in the film seems [[{{Anvilicious}} overwrought]], but at least it actually sounds ''menacing''.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodLineArt: It was originally released in black and white, and then recolored by a different person. With watercolors. In quasi-impressionistic colors. Without paying attention to the lines.

!!The movie:

* {{Anvilicious}}: A criticism of the movie is that it is heavy handed with BlackAndWhiteMorality. Changing the name of the BigBad to sound like Hitler is more than a little obvious, for instance.
** The "Sutler" name probably seems more anvilicious to those who know it was changed from "Susan". To someone coming from it cold, the first half makes it not-very-"Hitler"-like.
* AwardSnub: Hugo Weaving's amazing performance as V went unnoticed at award shows.
* CompleteMonster: Unlike the comic book, where the fascist characters are more well rounded, in the film some of them are irredeemable monsters:
** [[PresidentEvil High Chancellor]] Adam [[BigBad Sutler]] is a fascist dictator who rules the UK with an iron fist. After the Three Waters Incident leaves the UK in chaos, Sutler seizes power. After becoming Chancellor, Sutler sends anyone he disapproves of (Muslims, homosexuals, political dissidents) to concentration camps to be killed. Sutler violently cracks down on any sort protest against the regime. Sutler is also a very [[EvilisPetty petty]] dictator, [[DisproportionateRetribution having a talk show host arrested and killed for mocking him]].
** [[DragonInChief Peter Creedy]] is the head of The [[StateSec Finger]], Norsefire's SecretPolice. Creedy's agents seem to have free range to do almost anything they want, including raping women found violating curfew. Creedy's agents arrest anyone who is deemed a threat to the Norsefire regime. Creedy is something of a {{sadist}}, sometimes violently beating some of the political prisoners he arrests. However, the [[MoralEventHorizon worst thing Creedy has done]], is masterminding the aforementioned Three Waters Incident, in which he launches a biological attack on the UK that leaves 80,000 people dead and [[FalseFlagOperation allows Norsefire to seize power]]. In the end, Creedy decides to [[TheStarscream kill Sutler and seize power for himself]].



* MagnificentBastard: V.The graphic novel has Helen Heyer on the other side.

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* %%* MagnificentBastard: V.The graphic novel has Helen Heyer on the other side.



* MisaimedFandom: Meta-example, as it did this to Guy Fawkes. It's true that Fawkes entered Parliament with honest intentions, but few actually know what those intentions were. He wasn't trying to take down an authoritarian government, but instill a different one (indeed, since the Catholic church strongly believed in the divine right of kings, Guy Fawkes's co-conspirators would most likely have abolished the power parliament had claimed from the crown). He wanted England to move from the Church of England, which was oppressing to the Catholic Church, back to the Catholic Church (which would then have oppressed the Church of England).

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* MisaimedFandom: MisaimedFandom:
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Meta-example, as it did this to Guy Fawkes. It's true that Fawkes entered Parliament with honest intentions, but few actually know what those intentions were. He wasn't trying to take down an authoritarian government, but instill a different one (indeed, since the Catholic church strongly believed in the divine right of kings, Guy Fawkes's co-conspirators would most likely have abolished the power parliament had claimed from the crown). He wanted England to move from the Church of England, which was oppressing to the Catholic Church, back to the Catholic Church (which would then have oppressed the Church of England).



* MoralEventHorizon: Valerie Page's parents crossed it when [[spoiler:they disown her [[DisproportionateRetribution just for being a lesbian]]]].

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* MoralEventHorizon: MoralEventHorizon:
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Valerie Page's parents crossed it when [[spoiler:they disown her [[DisproportionateRetribution just for being a lesbian]]]].



* {{Narm}}: In the comic book, the government leader and blatant Hitler {{expy}} is named Adam ''Susan''. [[SarcasmMode Heil Susan!]] Changing it to "Sutler" in the film seems [[{{Anvilicious}} overwrought]], but at least it actually sounds ''menacing''.



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodLineArt: It was originally released in black and white, and then recolored by a different person. With watercolors. In quasi-impressionistic colors. Without paying attention to the lines.
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