History YMMV / Ultimatum

3rd Aug '16 10:08:33 PM vexer
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** OffscreenMomentOfAwesome: Naturally, the comic barely shows any of this and instead focuses on the IdiotPlot.
9th Jan '16 5:03:17 PM Virodhi
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* ParvumOpus: ''Ultimatum'' is almost universally considered this for Loeb.


to:

* ParvumOpus: ''Ultimatum'' is almost universally considered this for Loeb.


29th Dec '15 2:48:04 AM LDragon2
Is there an issue? Send a Message



to:

* ParvumOpus: ''Ultimatum'' is almost universally considered this for Loeb.

8th Sep '15 4:26:32 PM hubakon1368
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* {{Narm}}: A lot. Probably the crowner is the above-mentioned moment where Doctor Doom demands to know how the Thing managed to ''walk through an open door''.

to:

* {{Narm}}: A lot. Probably the crowner is the above-mentioned moment where Doctor Doom demands to know how the Thing managed to ''walk ''enter through an open door''.
29th Aug '15 10:41:02 AM hubakon1368
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* {{Narm}}: A lot. Probably the crowner is the above-mentioned moment where Doctor Doom demands to know how the Thing managed to ''come through an open door''.

to:

* {{Narm}}: A lot. Probably the crowner is the above-mentioned moment where Doctor Doom demands to know how the Thing managed to ''come ''walk through an open door''.
26th Aug '15 7:57:08 AM hubakon1368
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* {{Narm}}: A lot. Probably the crowner is the above-mentioned moment where Doctor Doom demands to know how the Thing managed to ''open a door''.

to:

* {{Narm}}: A lot. Probably the crowner is the above-mentioned moment where Doctor Doom demands to know how the Thing managed to ''open a ''come through an open door''.
9th Aug '15 11:14:45 PM crazyrabbits
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* FridgeBrilliance: The later {{retcon}} in ''Ultimate FF'' that the [[spoiler: Doctor Doom who died was not really Victor]] was made possible thanks to one crucial (and almost certainly accidental) detail Loeb and Finch put in. [[spoiler: When Doctor Doom is killed by the Thing at the end, the resulting {{gorn}} makes it abundantly clear that like 616 Doom, this is an organic being in a suit of armor. The problem is, Ultimate Doom is explicitly ''not'' an organic being in a suit of armor, he's a creature of living metal with no blood or organs. While this was likely just a mistake and the result of CriticalResearchFailure, later writers used this to explain that the "Doom" who was killed was actually Mary Storm posing as the ''real'' Doctor Doom]].
* FridgeLogic: Magneto uses his powers to open Cyclops' visor and shoot Wolverine. Why on Earth would Cyclops even ''have'' a metal visor, and why would he be stupid enough to wear it when he's knowingly going into battle AGAINST A GUY WITH MAGNETIC POWERS?
** And for that matter why the Hell would Wolverine, the guy with the metal skeleton, charge straight at Magneto? And when the visor opened, why didn't Cyclops just close his eyes? And even more of a question, why were the heroes who are completely unaffected by Magneto's powers just standing around gawking like idiots while Wolverine is being fried alive? The only way this plot was possible was that the heroes were carrying the IdiotBall like a lead weight the whole time.
** How could Magneto activate Iron Man's force blast? Sure, his suit is made of metal, but Magneto's power lay in ''magetism'' - y'know, moving metal around. Not activating the suit's technologies.
*** A long standing problem with Magneto, as he's used his powers to reprogram sentinels in the past. In fact, he did so towards the climax of the very first ''Ultimate X-Men'' story arc, when the US government pulls the same "fight fire with gasoline" trick by sending an army of Sentinels into the Savage Land, which Magneto even lampshaded.
3rd Aug '15 8:30:53 AM comicwriter
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* FridgeBrilliance: The later {{retcon}} in ''Ultimate FF'' that the [[spoiler: Doctor Doom who died was not really Victor]] was made possible thanks to one crucial (and almost certainly accidental) detail Loeb and Finch put in. [[spoiler: When Doctor Doom is killed by the Thing at the end, the resulting blood and gore makes it abundantly clear that like 616 Doom, this is an organic being in a suit of armor. The problem is, Ultimate Doom is explicitly ''not'' an organic being in a suit of armor, he's a creature of living metal with no blood or organs. While this was likely just a mistake and the result of CriticalResearchFailure, later writers used this to explain that the "Doom" who was killed was actually Mary Storm posing as the ''real'' Doctor Doom]].

to:

* FridgeBrilliance: The later {{retcon}} in ''Ultimate FF'' that the [[spoiler: Doctor Doom who died was not really Victor]] was made possible thanks to one crucial (and almost certainly accidental) detail Loeb and Finch put in. [[spoiler: When Doctor Doom is killed by the Thing at the end, the resulting blood and gore {{gorn}} makes it abundantly clear that like 616 Doom, this is an organic being in a suit of armor. The problem is, Ultimate Doom is explicitly ''not'' an organic being in a suit of armor, he's a creature of living metal with no blood or organs. While this was likely just a mistake and the result of CriticalResearchFailure, later writers used this to explain that the "Doom" who was killed was actually Mary Storm posing as the ''real'' Doctor Doom]].
3rd Aug '15 8:29:56 AM comicwriter
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* FridgeBrilliance: The later retcon in ''Ultimate FF'' that the [[spoiler: Doctor Doom who died was not really Victor]] is made possible thanks to one crucial (and almost certainly accidental) detail Loeb and Finch put in. [[spoiler: When Doctor Doom is killed by the Thing at the end, the resulting blood and gore makes it abundantly clear that like 616 Doom, this is an organic being in a suit of armor. The problem is, Ultimate Doom is explicitly ''not'' an organic being in a suit of armor, he's a being of living metal with no blood or organs. While this was likely just a mistake and the result of CriticalResearchFailure, later writers used this to explain that the "Doom" who was killed was actually Mary Storm ''posing'' as the real Doctor Doom]].

to:

* FridgeBrilliance: The later retcon {{retcon}} in ''Ultimate FF'' that the [[spoiler: Doctor Doom who died was not really Victor]] is was made possible thanks to one crucial (and almost certainly accidental) detail Loeb and Finch put in. [[spoiler: When Doctor Doom is killed by the Thing at the end, the resulting blood and gore makes it abundantly clear that like 616 Doom, this is an organic being in a suit of armor. The problem is, Ultimate Doom is explicitly ''not'' an organic being in a suit of armor, he's a being creature of living metal with no blood or organs. While this was likely just a mistake and the result of CriticalResearchFailure, later writers used this to explain that the "Doom" who was killed was actually Mary Storm ''posing'' posing as the real ''real'' Doctor Doom]].
3rd Aug '15 8:28:44 AM comicwriter
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* FridgeBrilliance: The later retcon in ''Ultimate FF'' that the [[spoiler: Doctor Doom who died was not really Victor]] is made possible thanks to one crucial (and almost certainly accidental) detail Loeb and Finch put in. [[spoiler: When Doctor Doom is killed by the Thing at the end, the resulting blood and gore makes it abundantly clear that like 616 Doom, this is an organic being in a suit of armor. The problem is, Ultimate Doom is explicitly ''not'' an organic being in a suit of armor, he's a being of living metal with no blood or organs. While this was likely just a mistake and the result of CriticalResearchFailure, later writers used this to explain that the "Doom" who was killed was actually Mary Storm ''posing'' as the real Doctor Doom]].
This list shows the last 10 events of 40. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=YMMV.Ultimatum