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* FridgeLogic: If the Vittra promised not to attack Forening [[spoiler: until Wendy becomes Queen]], why didn't Elora [[spoiler: swallow her pride and marry Garrett Strom, giving Willa a shot at the crown]]?
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** This somewhat overlaps with TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter,as listed above, but there's also no mention if Kim was ever the least bit normal or loving prior to Wendy and Rhys' switch putting her over the edge, or if she was clinically self-absorbed and the switch was the straw that broke the camels back. Maggie knew Kim longer than Matt or Wendy, and Matt was old enough to remember what Kim was like before Wendy came home with, but neither of them shed any details on who Kim was.
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** This somewhat overlaps with TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter,as listed above, but there's also no mention if Kim was ever the least bit normal or loving prior to Wendy and Rhys' switch putting her over the edge, or if she was clinically self-absorbed and the switch was the straw that broke the camels back. Maggie knew Kim longer than Matt or Wendy, and Matt was old enough to remember what Kim was like before Wendy came home with, with them, but neither of them shed any details on who Kim was.was before then.
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** Not once in the trilogy does Wendy or Matt ask if things would have turned out differently for their family if Wendy and Rhys were never switched(Specifically if Kim would have been committed or not)
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** Not once in the trilogy does Wendy or Matt ask if things would have turned out differently for their family if Wendy and Rhys were never switched(Specifically switched (specifically if Kim would have violently lashed out and been committed or not)
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** This somewhat overlaps with TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter,as listed above, but there's also no mention if Kim was ever the least bit normal or loving prior to Wendy and Rhys' switch putting her over the edge, or if she was clinically self-absorbed and the switch was the straw that broke the camels back.
*** Considering that Matt has no positive opinion of Kim and her actions during the first six years of Wendy's life could be seen as narcissism because Wendy wasn't the child Kim wanted and was promised, the later is a good possibility.
*** Considering that Matt has no positive opinion of Kim and her actions during the first six years of Wendy's life could be seen as narcissism because Wendy wasn't the child Kim wanted and was promised, the later is a good possibility.
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** This somewhat overlaps with TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter,as listed above, but there's also no mention if Kim was ever the least bit normal or loving prior to Wendy and Rhys' switch putting her over the edge, or if she was clinically self-absorbed and the switch was the straw that broke the camels back.
back. Maggie knew Kim longer than Matt or Wendy, and Matt was old enough to remember what Kim was like before Wendy came home with, but neither of them shed any details on who Kim was.
*** Considering that Matt has no positive opinion ofKim and Kim, her actions during the first six years of Wendy's life could be seen as narcissism because Wendy wasn't the child Kim wanted and was promised, the later is a good possibility.promised.
*** Considering that Matt has no positive opinion of
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** Somewhat overlap with TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter, but there's also no mention if Kim was ever the least bit normal or loving prior to Wendy and Rhys' switch putting her over the edge, or if she was clinically self-absorbed and the switch was the straw that broke the camels back.
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** Somewhat overlap This somewhat overlaps with TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter, TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter,as listed above, but there's also no mention if Kim was ever the least bit normal or loving prior to Wendy and Rhys' switch putting her over the edge, or if she was clinically self-absorbed and the switch was the straw that broke the camels back.
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** Matt's biological and Wendy's host father is said to have been a good man who committed suicide when Wendy was a toddler, but we don't get very many details about his relationships with his wife, sister, or children. We don't even get a first name or learn how or why he committed suicide.
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** Matt's biological and Wendy's host father is said to have been a good man who committed suicide when Wendy was a toddler, but we don't get very many details about his relationships with his wife, sister, or children. We don't even get a first name or learn how or why he committed suicide.suicide, let alone what motivated him to do it.
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** In the bonus material in the printed books, it's revealed that there are trolls in other villages that have gills and ones that can change their appearance to blend in with their surroundings, as well as traditional ugly, temperamental trolls. They are never brought up or explored in the actual story.
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** In the bonus material in the printed books, it's revealed that there are trolls in other villages that have gills and ones that can change their appearance to blend in with their surroundings, as well as traditional ugly, temperamental trolls. They are never brought up or explored in the actual story.story.
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** Not once in the trilogy does Wendy or Matt ask if things would have turned out differently for their family if Wendy and Rhys were never switched(Specifically if Kim would have been committed or not)
** Somewhat overlap with TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter, but there's also no mention if Kim was ever the least bit normal or loving prior to Wendy and Rhys' switch putting her over the edge, or if she was clinically self-absorbed and the switch was the straw that broke the camels back.
*** Considering that Matt has no positive opinion of Kim and her actions during the first six years of Wendy's life could be seen as narcissism because Wendy wasn't the child Kim wanted and was promised, the later is a good possibility.
**** [[spoiler: However, at the end of the trilogy, Matt does take Rhys to visit Kim where she's institutionalized and there's a noticeable change in her demeanor. Wendy even thinks she might get well enough to be released one day.]]
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** Not once in the trilogy does Wendy or Matt ask if things would have turned out differently for their family if Wendy and Rhys were never switched(Specifically if Kim would have been committed or not)
** Somewhat overlap with TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter, but there's also no mention if Kim was ever the least bit normal or loving prior to Wendy and Rhys' switch putting her over the edge, or if she was clinically self-absorbed and the switch was the straw that broke the camels back.
*** Considering that Matt has no positive opinion of Kim and her actions during the first six years of Wendy's life could be seen as narcissism because Wendy wasn't the child Kim wanted and was promised, the later is a good possibility.
**** [[spoiler: However, at the end of the trilogy, Matt does take Rhys to visit Kim where she's institutionalized and there's a noticeable change in her demeanor. Wendy even thinks she might get well enough to be released one day.]]
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** Matt's biological and Wendy's host father is said to have been a good man who committed suicide when Wendy was a toddler, but we don't get very many details about his relationships with his wife, sister, or children. We don't even get a first name.name or learn how or why he committed suicide.
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** Matt's biological and Wendy's host father is said to have been a good man who committed suicide when Wendy was a toddler, but we don't get very many details about his relationships with his wife, sister, or children. We don't even a first name.
** Maggie Everly raised Matt and Wendy after Kim was committed but she's barely seen or mentioned in the last two books. She does make an appearance in the epilogue though.
** Aurora Kroner mentions in the first book that Tove has a sister that they're expecting to come back in the spring, but nowhere in the trilogy is she seen or mentioned.
**In the bonus material in the printed books, it's revealed that there are trolls in other villages that have gills and ones that can change their appearance to blend in with their surroundings, as well as traditional ugly, temperamental trolls. They are never brought up or explored in the actual story.
** Matt's biological and Wendy's host father is said to have been a good man who committed suicide when Wendy was a toddler, but we don't get very many details about his relationships with his wife, sister, or children. We don't even a first name.
** Maggie Everly raised Matt and Wendy after Kim was committed but she's barely seen or mentioned in the last two books. She does make an appearance in the epilogue though.
** Aurora Kroner mentions in the first book that Tove has a sister that they're expecting to come back in the spring, but nowhere in the trilogy is she seen or mentioned.
**In the bonus material in the printed books, it's revealed that there are trolls in other villages that have gills and ones that can change their appearance to blend in with their surroundings, as well as traditional ugly, temperamental trolls. They are never brought up or explored in the actual story.
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* CharacterDerailment: In Ascend, [[spoiler: Finn comes to Wendy the night before her wedding to Tove, offering her one night together, to which Wendy ultimately refuses, saying that it wasn't fair to Tove, and that she promised to be faithful to him, despite the fact that they didn't love each other, and that one night with Finn wouldn't be enough to her. Later in the book, after Tove has an episode brought on by his powers, Wendy gives her new flame Loki the same offer that she yelled at Finn for making earlier, and they end up sleeping together.]]
** Also, Matt. Shown in the beginning of the series to be overprotective of Wendy, when she [[spoiler: announces that she's going to marry Tove, a man she's known for a few months, tops]], he barely protests.
** Also, Matt. Shown in the beginning of the series to be overprotective of Wendy, when she [[spoiler: announces that she's going to marry Tove, a man she's known for a few months, tops]], he barely protests.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: In the bonus material in the printed books, it's revealed that there are trolls in other villages that have gills and ones that can change their appearance to blend in with their surroundings.surroundings, as well as traditional ugly, temperamental trolls. They are never brought up or explored in the actual story.
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* FridgeLogic: If the Vittra promised not to attack Forening [[spoiler: until Wendy becomes Queen]], why didn't Elora [[spoiler: swallow her pride and marry Garrett Strom, giving Willa a shot at the crown]]?crown]]?
*TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: In the bonus material in the printed books, it's revealed that there are trolls in other villages that have gills and can change their appearance to blend in with their surroundings. They are never brought up or explored in the actual story.
*TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: In the bonus material in the printed books, it's revealed that there are trolls in other villages that have gills and can change their appearance to blend in with their surroundings. They are never brought up or explored in the actual story.
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** Also, Matt. Shown in the beginning of the series to be overprotective of Wendy, when she [[spoiler: announces that she's going to marry Tove, a man she's known for a few months, tops]] tops]], he barely protests.
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*CharacterDerailment: In Ascend, [[spoiler: Finn comes to Wendy the night before her wedding to Tove, offering her one night together, to which Wendy ultimately refuses, saying that it wasn't fair to Tove, and that she promised to be faithful to him, despite the fact that they didn't love each other, and that one night with Finn wouldn't be enough to her. Later in the book, after Tove has an episode brought on by his powers, Wendy gives her new flame Loki the same offer that she yelled at Finn for making earlier, and they end up sleeping together.]]
**Also, Matt. Shown in the beginning of the series to be overprotective of Wendy, when she [[spoiler: announces that she's going to marry Tove, a man she's known for a few months, tops]] he barely protests.
* FridgeLogic: If the Vittra promised not to attack Forening [[spoiler: until Wendy becomes Queen]], why didn't Elora [[spoiler: swallow her pride and marry Garrett Strom, giving Willa a shot at the crown]]?
**Also, Matt. Shown in the beginning of the series to be overprotective of Wendy, when she [[spoiler: announces that she's going to marry Tove, a man she's known for a few months, tops]] he barely protests.
* FridgeLogic: If the Vittra promised not to attack Forening [[spoiler: until Wendy becomes Queen]], why didn't Elora [[spoiler: swallow her pride and marry Garrett Strom, giving Willa a shot at the crown]]?
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